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Ok, so how's this for a game idea?

The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 08:19
It's an idea I've been nursing for a few weeks now.

Basically, it'd be a futuristic RTS. The basic story is that a couple of hundred years from now, a massive world war/natural disaster/something like that makes the Earth uninhabitable, so the major civilisations pack up and colonise the other planets of the system. A few hundred years after that, a combination of time and technology makes Earth a bit more inhabitable, so the civilisations each individually decide to reclaim the "holy land" on Earth.

The playable nations would be:

Martian Empire
Based on: Germany and Western Europe
Colour: Grey
Holy land: Germany

Venusian Federation
Based on: Russia and Eastern Europe
Colour: Red
Holy land: Arkhangelsk

Republic of Mercury
Based on: USA, Canada, the British Isles and Anglo nations in general
Colour: Blue
Holy land: Great Britain

People's State of Jupiter
Based on: China and east Asia
Colour: Orange
Holy land: Beijing

Republic of Saturn
Based on: India and the subcontinent
Colour: Purple
Holy land: India

Republic of Uranus
Based on: Southern and central Africa
Colour: Yellow
Holy land: South Africa

Holy Republic of Neptune
Based on: Iran and the Middle East
Colour: Green
Holy land: Arabia

Each planet is meant to be a thinly veiled reference to modern nations.

Essentially, the game will play like DoW: DC; there's be an overworld map where you attack, defend and manage territories. The combat will be RTS style.

I know it's cliched, but I think it's at least decent. What do you think?
Neu Leonstein
07-11-2006, 08:28
What do you think?
I think they still haven't made a decent Korean War game. Sorta like Company of Heroes, just in Korea.

Also, a WWI multiplayer shooter, alá Battlefield 1916 or something.
Posi
07-11-2006, 08:35
Better (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion)
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 08:38
Better (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion)

You're comparing my idea to Oblivion? What are you, 1UP.com?
Posi
07-11-2006, 08:41
You're comparing my idea to Oblivion? What are you, 1UP.com?

Better (http://www.nationstates.net/)
New Granada
07-11-2006, 08:43
Years and years and years ago, EGM, I think it was, put out a call for its subscribers to contribute game ideas.

Mine, suffice it to say, went unpublished.

My game was called "Eat Hair," and the game would resemble one of the old japanese life-simulator games in which the player had to get a job and manage personal relationships.

The ideal job in my game was to work at a barber shop, and therefore have the opportunity to sweep the hair from the floor and steal it, for the purpose of eating.

The player would have the opportunity to get a girlfriend and then try to cut and eat her hair at night.

Too many faux pas, or one of too severe a magnitude would result in the player being arrested or thrown out of his parents house.

I thought it was a fantastic idea. Hack f-ing magazine editors.
The South Islands
07-11-2006, 09:07
A WWI FPS would be mad boring. Charge, Die, Shoot, Charge, Die, Shoot...rinse and repeat as needed.

Now a WWI RTS...that might be interesting. Depends on the execution, though.
Philosopy
07-11-2006, 09:11
A WWI FPS would be mad boring. Charge, Die, Shoot, Charge, Die, Shoot...rinse and repeat as needed.

Now a WWI RTS...that might be interesting. Depends on the execution, though.

I'm intrigued as to how the 'shoot' part comes after the 'die' part. :p
Neu Leonstein
07-11-2006, 09:14
A WWI FPS would be mad boring. Charge, Die, Shoot, Charge, Die, Shoot...rinse and repeat as needed.
It's all about the extras...namely gas attacks (with masks that restrict your vision), artillery barrages, close-quarters melee combat in the trenches and so on.
The Friesland colony
07-11-2006, 09:16
I'm intrigued as to how the 'shoot' part comes after the 'die' part. :p

Zombie Prussian hordes.

There's something about the rotting features combined with the imaculately polished stahlhelm or pickelhaube. I've already used zombie Bismark as a homework excuse in media, where we have to justify any uncompleted homework in the most imaginative way possible.
Cannot think of a name
07-11-2006, 09:47
Your idea intrigues me and I would like to sign up for your newsletter and/or organization.

Okay, the only things that concern me is the following:

Making them inhabit every other planet-kind of Buck Rogers era sci-fi, which I am all for actually. But it's something you have to be aware of. After all, the way things are as we know them, the folks who got Mars and some of the moons on I think Jupiter are comin' up-the folks on Venus and Mercury, they got the shaft.

The other thing that I was thinking is, who renovated Earth if it was technology and wouldn't they have a vested interest in not being taken over by the 'quitters.' Which I think adds an element. The straight up nation division that you have seems too thickly drawn and not all that necessary since you already have something going.

Also, is it homeland pride that is bringing all of them back, or is there another resource that was discovered in the resurrection that is or can be exploited? Did the separate planet nations have any contact with each other during exile? How different was their development? Does that cause the animosity between them? Is there a reason they all went their separate ways that fuels that? Are these advanced techs that are going in or techs in decline because of their exile? etc etc.
Gorias
07-11-2006, 09:56
where would ireland be? i would imagine out those groups we would be with germany.
Cannot think of a name
07-11-2006, 09:58
where would ireland be? i would imagine out those groups we would be with germany.

One of the small moons wishing everyone would leave you alone while you write literature about how pissed off you are about the whole thing.

EDIT: And the game should have attack chickens.
http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/ninjakid.gif
Gorias
07-11-2006, 10:04
One of the small moons wishing everyone would leave you alone while you write literature about how pissed off you are about the whole thing.

ok.......
wow my country if famous for its literature, i'm so ashamed!
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 10:08
Making them inhabit every other planet-kind of Buck Rogers era sci-fi, which I am all for actually. But it's something you have to be aware of. After all, the way things are as we know them, the folks who got Mars and some of the moons on I think Jupiter are comin' up-the folks on Venus and Mercury, they got the shaft.

It was a difficult choice as to who got what, but I stand by it.

The other thing that I was thinking is, who renovated Earth if it was technology and wouldn't they have a vested interest in not being taken over by the 'quitters.' Which I think adds an element. The straight up nation division that you have seems too thickly drawn and not all that necessary since you already have something going.

When I said technology, I didn't mean on Earth; I meant advanced technology on the side of the planet nations that makes Earth more inhabitable for them, such as advance environ-suit and artificial atmospheres. In my mental image, all the troops in the game would be wearing hazard suit like armour and powered armour.

Also, is it homeland pride that is bringing all of them back, or is there another resource that was discovered in the resurrection that is or can be exploited? Did the separate planet nations have any contact with each other during exile? How different was their development? Does that cause the animosity between them? Is there a reason they all went their separate ways that fuels that? Are these advanced techs that are going in or techs in decline because of their exile? etc etc.

Strategically, Earth is the best planet atmospherically. The planet nations also consider Earth, especially their various homelands, holy. The planet nations originated from the factions in the war that ruined Earth; once the planet was doomed, they put aside their differences temporarily to get as many people off the planet as possible, but still hold grudges against each other.

Developmentally, most nations are still similar to how they are now, except futuristic. The Indians and Chinese still breed like rabbits, the Iranians are still fanatics, the US is still high tech, Africa is still the poorest nation and Russia is still iffy. The only nation that's specifically different is Germany; it's more like the Holy Roman Empire or German Empire, and similar to the Empire and the Imperium from the Warhammer universe.

Technology is obviously advanced. The less inhabitable planets, like Mercury and the gas giants, were colonised using advanced techniques, such as massive orbital stations.
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 10:08
where would ireland be? i would imagine out those groups we would be with germany.

Actually, you'd be with the Anglos.
Cannot think of a name
07-11-2006, 10:09
ok.......
wow my country if famous for its literature, i'm so ashamed!

And being touchy. Don't forget that.
(I wasn't taking a real dig at Ireland, just in case. I was actually trying more to make it a reference to the literature...some people can't take a compliment...;))
Gorias
07-11-2006, 10:11
And being touchy. Don't forget that.
(I wasn't taking a real dig at Ireland, just in case. I was actually trying more to make it a reference to the literature...some people can't take a compliment...;))

sorry. computer screens cant convey tone of voice. times things sound more bitchey than it should be. my bad.
Gorias
07-11-2006, 10:12
Actually, you'd be with the Anglos.

but we are not anglos. we would more likely prefere to team up with germany.
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 10:17
but we are not anglos. we would more likely prefere to team up with germany.

Well too bad. I'm sticking you with the non-continental whites.

One of the reasons for this is balance; I probably should have mentioned this before, but the game takes place only in the Old World; if I stick Ireland with the Martians, the only territory initially availible to Mercury will be Great Britain, and they'll be surrounded.
Gorias
07-11-2006, 10:24
Well too bad. I'm sticking you with the non-continental whites.

One of the reasons for this is balance; I probably should have mentioned this before, but the game takes place only in the Old World; if I stick Ireland with the Martians, the only territory initially availible to Mercury will be Great Britain, and they'll be surrounded.

how old world is the old world? if its pre-christian we would be more powerfull. scotland would be on our side.
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 12:22
how old world is the old world? if its pre-christian we would be more powerfull. scotland would be on our side.

When you says "Old World", it refers to Europe, Asia and Africa, while New World means the Americas.
Zatarack
07-11-2006, 12:39
I think they still haven't made a decent Korean War game. Sorta like Company of Heroes, just in Korea.

Also, a WWI multiplayer shooter, alá Battlefield 1916 or something.

But wouldn't that mostly be running out of the trenches to be cut down by machineguns?
LiberationFrequency
07-11-2006, 12:51
My idea for a game puts you as a serial killer in a teen slasher flick. You have various missions where you have murder various annoying preppy teens in the most bloody and creative way possible. You get extra points for the amount of blood and volume of screams you can generate. You also have to sneak around, escape from the police or slaughter them and cover your tracks so know one works out who you are. There are various levels such as the woods, the high school, the house party etc
LazyOtaku
07-11-2006, 13:28
*snip*

That's only a scenario. Where's the game?
Bodies Without Organs
07-11-2006, 13:56
But wouldn't that mostly be running out of the trenches to be cut down by machineguns?

The Western Front version would have several month long loading screens, and then frenetic blasts of activity, the Eastern Front version would be a more fluid affair, presumably.
Bodies Without Organs
07-11-2006, 13:57
I know it's cliched, but I think it's at least decent. What do you think?

What do I think? Eat Hair sounds like a far more interesting game idea. You have provided a touch of background fluff with nothing new gameplay wise.
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 13:59
What do I think? Eat Hair sounds like a far more interesting game idea. You have provided a touch of background fluff with nothing new gameplay wise.

I can't do anything gameplay wise unless I'm... *gasp* ACTUALLY PROGRAMMING.
Bodies Without Organs
07-11-2006, 14:06
I can't do anything gameplay wise unless I'm... *gasp* ACTUALLY PROGRAMMING.

You could describe how your game would play, and what would make it stand apart from all the other RTS clones. For example, one does not need to be in the thick of writing code to decide that you want to, for example, make it part of the game that you need to keep an eye on public opinion back on your home planet, or that you plan to use the information from contemporary satellite photography to create realistic 3D battlefields based on real locations, or that the game will simulate fog of war so that the information you get back from your underligns might not actually be 100% accurate...
LazyOtaku
07-11-2006, 14:08
I can't do anything gameplay wise unless I'm... *gasp* ACTUALLY PROGRAMMING.

Do you think that game designers just start programming and just make up the game mechanics as they go along? You should first write a design document and sketch out your basic game mechanics. Then you can start working on a prototype and test if your ideas work.
Hamilay
07-11-2006, 14:14
I always thought a game with supply lines would be a good idea. I've noticed that pretty much every single RTS has units not needing any supplies and having magical infinite ammo guns. I propose this idea: the main feature of all maps, say a WW2 RTS, is transport routes, ranging from dirt tracks to paved roads to railroads. You start with a small force and have to build forward posts on the transport routes. A steady stream of supply vehicles carrying weapons, supplies and manpower comes along these routes and can only be unloaded in the form of good ol' crates at these forward posts. All units require ammo, and to replenish ammo, heal units and repair vehicles they must either be in close proximity to a forward post or have supplies hauled out to them by troops (only engineers can carry heavy ammunition or repair vehicles, and only medics can carry medical supplies)
So, what do y'all think of my hastily constructed idea?
Cluichstan
07-11-2006, 14:18
Years and years and years ago, EGM, I think it was, put out a call for its subscribers to contribute game ideas.

Mine, suffice it to say, went unpublished.

My game was called "Eat Hair," and the game would resemble one of the old japanese life-simulator games in which the player had to get a job and manage personal relationships.

The ideal job in my game was to work at a barber shop, and therefore have the opportunity to sweep the hair from the floor and steal it, for the purpose of eating.

The player would have the opportunity to get a girlfriend and then try to cut and eat her hair at night.

Too many faux pas, or one of too severe a magnitude would result in the player being arrested or thrown out of his parents house.

I thought it was a fantastic idea. Hack f-ing magazine editors.

You frighten me. :p

And the game should have attack chickens.
http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/ninjakid.gif

All games should have attack chickens. In fact, maybe Eat Hair would've been better received had it included them. :D
Bodies Without Organs
07-11-2006, 14:24
The ideal job in my game was to work at a barber shop, and therefore have the opportunity to sweep the hair from the floor and steal it, for the purpose of eating.

I can imagine part of the screen being a shot of the character's head, and the more hair they manage to eat, the bigger and more flamboyant their hairstyle becomes. As it increases in size and complexity they can start to use the 'Intimidate with haristyle' option in order to bull their way through some of life's trials. At later stages of the game the hair becomes prehensile, and can be used to hold clippers, scissors or crimpers, thus allowing the character to cut other people's hair more easily. In order that no one witnesses such an absurd feat the character can first hypnotise the client in the barber's shop by moving their hairstyle back and forward in subtle rhythmic patterns...
Ifreann
07-11-2006, 14:28
One of the small moons wishing everyone would leave you alone while you write literature about how pissed off you are about the whole thing.
We'd be headed for that alcohol cloud of in space somewhere.

EDIT: And the game should have attack chickens.
http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/ninjakid.gif

I love you now
Bodies Without Organs
07-11-2006, 14:31
Do you think that game designers just start programming and just make up the game mechanics as they go along?

...similarly boardgame designers don't start creating their games until they are standing in the factory and some foreman asks what components they need...
Bodies Without Organs
07-11-2006, 14:34
I always thought a game with supply lines would be a good idea.

...

So, what do y'all think of my hastily constructed idea?

I think you would be entertained if you did a search for the old wargame Campaign For North Africa - logistical simulation taken well beyond any sane level, even to the point where Italian units required more water because they cooked so much pasta.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/4815

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa
LazyOtaku
07-11-2006, 14:42
Actually, I wouldn't advise starting with an RTS game. Those kind of games need a lot of fine tuning and balancing.

Why not start with a simple turn-based strategy game, somthing like Dice Wars (http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html)?
Hamilay
07-11-2006, 14:44
I think you would be entertained if you did a search for the old wargame Campaign For North Africa - logistical simulation taken well beyond any sane level, even to the point where Italian units required more water because they cooked so much pasta.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/4815

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa
Odd, wikipedia seems to be sick today. Looks pretty interesting, but I may as well post this (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20061101.jpg):p
I'm kind of a tasteless layman when it comes to games, I suppose- it helps if they have pretty graphics.
Ice Hockey Players
07-11-2006, 16:27
Settling people on Jupiter and Saturn is a really bad idea, and if Neptune is anything like Futurama describes it, Santa Claus will kill us all. That means China, India, and Iran are pretty much space dogmeat.

Jupiter and Saturn have moons, though, and those could be used, except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Besides, there are 62 other moons that could be usable, plus Ceres. And if it's a few hundred years in the future, space colonies are probably crafted, and it might even be possible that Death Star-style satellite is crafted and is used by one civilization.

On the other hand, I'd be far more likely to enjoy "Eat Hair." I laughed myself purple at that idea.
Cluichstan
07-11-2006, 16:33
On the other hand, I'd be far more likely to enjoy "Eat Hair." I laughed myself purple at that idea.

I'm tellin' ya, mate, if you add attack chickens to it, Eat Hair is golden!

http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/ninjakid.gif
Ice Hockey Players
07-11-2006, 16:35
I'm tellin' ya, mate, if you add attack chickens to it, Eat Hair is golden!

http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/ninjakid.gif

We should so sell that idea. If we added attack chickens and copious amounts of hard liquor, Max wouldn't have to charge us for NS2. Ever.
Bodies Without Organs
07-11-2006, 16:42
Attempt no landing there.

Good to see someone else is paying attention.
Cluichstan
07-11-2006, 16:45
We should so sell that idea. If we added attack chickens and copious amounts of hard liquor, Max wouldn't have to charge us for NS2. Ever.

I'm definitely down with copious amounts of hard liquor, but perhaps it'd be best if I sleep off the beer I'm drinking now. ;)
Ice Hockey Players
07-11-2006, 17:03
I'm definitely down with copious amounts of hard liquor, but perhaps it'd be best if I sleep off the beer I'm drinking now. ;)

I meant adding it to the game, but if you want to include a special edition that includes a large bottole of hard liquor, we could do that too.
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 17:48
Settling people on Jupiter and Saturn is a really bad idea, and if Neptune is anything like Futurama describes it, Santa Claus will kill us all. That means China, India, and Iran are pretty much space dogmeat.

Jupiter and Saturn have moons, though, and those could be used, except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Besides, there are 62 other moons that could be usable, plus Ceres. And if it's a few hundred years in the future, space colonies are probably crafted, and it might even be possible that Death Star-style satellite is crafted and is used by one civilization.

I already addressed that; the less inhabitable planets have massive orbiting space stations and settlements with atmospheric shieldings and stupid shit like that.
Cullons
07-11-2006, 17:48
hey spud, going to make a few suggestions/criticism.

It's an idea I've been nursing for a few weeks now.

Basically, it'd be a futuristic RTS. The basic story is that a couple of hundred years from now, a massive world war/natural disaster/something like that makes the Earth uninhabitable, so the major civilisations pack up and colonise the other planets of the system. A few hundred years after that, a combination of time and technology makes Earth a bit more inhabitable, so the civilisations each individually decide to reclaim the "holy land" on Earth.

First off, be careful about what forces the remaining humans of earth. Even assuming its a nuclear world, huge amounts of radiation, bacterial agents in the air, etc... earth would still be a better option than most of the other worlds in our system. I'd recommend something like a "nano-tech" weapon that disolves organic/metalic...stuff. after these centuries the machines seem to no linger be working. Or maybe some sort of terraform technology developed on earth for Mars, Titan, etc.. that by mistake or intention was released into the earths atmosphere thus causing huge cataclismic changes.

The playable nations would be:



Martian Empire
Based on: Germany and Western Europe
Colour: Grey
Holy land: Germany

Venusian Federation
Based on: Russia and Eastern Europe
Colour: Red
Holy land: Arkhangelsk

Republic of Mercury
Based on: USA, Canada, the British Isles and Anglo nations in general
Colour: Blue
Holy land: Great Britain

People's State of Jupiter
Based on: China and east Asia
Colour: Orange
Holy land: Beijing

Republic of Saturn
Based on: India and the subcontinent
Colour: Purple
Holy land: India

Republic of Uranus
Based on: Southern and central Africa
Colour: Yellow
Holy land: South Africa

Holy Republic of Neptune
Based on: Iran and the Middle East
Colour: Green
Holy land: Arabia

Each planet is meant to be a thinly veiled reference to modern nations.[quote]

you seem to have left out Latin America.
I'd also point out that you've forgotten about the moon which is comparable in size to a few of the planets mentioned and would be easiest place to reach. If you don't want to use the moon i'd have it destroyed in the back story. There are also the asteriod belts which would be a major advantage due to their amount and resources. Maybe some sort of 'vagabond' faction?


[QUOTE=The Potato Factory;11912520]
Essentially, the game will play like DoW: DC; there's be an overworld map where you attack, defend and manage territories. The combat will be RTS style.

I know it's cliched, but I think it's at least decent. What do you think?
The Potato Factory
07-11-2006, 17:51
First off, be careful about what forces the remaining humans of earth. Even assuming its a nuclear world, huge amounts of radiation, bacterial agents in the air, etc... earth would still be a better option than most of the other worlds in our system. I'd recommend something like a "nano-tech" weapon that disolves organic/metalic...stuff. after these centuries the machines seem to no linger be working. Or maybe some sort of terraform technology developed on earth for Mars, Titan, etc.. that by mistake or intention was released into the earths atmosphere thus causing huge cataclismic changes.

I'm still working on that bit.

you seem to have left out Latin America.
I'd also point out that you've forgotten about the moon which is comparable in size to a few of the planets mentioned and would be easiest place to reach. If you don't want to use the moon i'd have it destroyed in the back story. There are also the asteriod belts which would be a major advantage due to their amount and resources. Maybe some sort of 'vagabond' faction?

The moon, and Latin America, will be handle in an "expansion."
Cullons
07-11-2006, 17:54
Developmentally, most nations are still similar to how they are now, except futuristic. The Indians and Chinese still breed like rabbits, the Iranians are still fanatics, the US is still high tech, Africa is still the poorest nation and Russia is still iffy. The only nation that's specifically different is Germany; it's more like the Holy Roman Empire or German Empire, and similar to the Empire and the Imperium from the Warhammer universe.

Technology is obviously advanced. The less inhabitable planets, like Mercury and the gas giants, were colonised using advanced techniques, such as massive orbital stations.

Be careful with this. Their abilties should also tie in with their worlds aswell.
Venus, huge energy advantage, solar power, some sort of "Solar Canon" (yeah baby!)
Saturn/Uranus: fuel advantage, dueterium, or what have you. or due to multiple moons more diverse units.
Neptune: ... cryogenics maybe?
Mars: more or less equal amount of land as earth, so population/industry advantage
Mercury: volatiles/metals advantage.
Cullons
07-11-2006, 17:57
I'm still working on that bit.



The moon, and Latin America, will be handle in an "expansion."

So after everthing is settled then the latin americans move in? typical:p

watch ot for the moon problem. gamers get very pissy these days when things aren't clear.
Neo Sanderstead
07-11-2006, 18:23
Also, a WWI multiplayer shooter, alá Battlefield 1916 or something.

A WW1 shooter would be pointless, given the nature of the combat in WW1. You'd be in the trench for most of the time and when you got out you'd die
Imperial isa
07-11-2006, 18:56
I think they still haven't made a decent Korean War game. Sorta like Company of Heroes, just in Korea.

Also, a WWI multiplayer shooter, alá Battlefield 1916 or something.

i would like to see a Korean War game
as there are a hell of a lot WW2 game why not same Korean War game
Gorias
07-11-2006, 19:16
When you says "Old World", it refers to Europe, Asia and Africa, while New World means the Americas.

i thought you ment old times.
Isidoor
07-11-2006, 19:34
i would like to see a WWI-themed 'horror' game.
the atmosphere is right, with the poisoned gas, zombies, old fashioned guns, trenches, moonlike settings.

i think the game from the OP would be more interesting if it was a TBS-game.
i used to like RTS, until i found out that they are all just the same, collect resources and make soldiers with them, and the soldiers mostly have one weakness and one strenght. (infantry>cavalry>archers>infantry)
Ice Hockey Players
07-11-2006, 22:36
Hmmm...so so far we have this: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune all have people there. We have a Germany, a Russia, an America/UK, a China, an India, an Africa, and a Middle East. We need stats for them. Stat.

I'll give you an idea of some possible history of these areas.

I'll start with:

BRITTANIA - made up of the USA, Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, most of the Caribbean, and just for the hell of it, Luxembourg
After World War VII, the Federation of Brittania formed as a large federal state. It is the only state in the world that is a first-past-the-post, two-party democracy; it is also the world's largest federal state.
ECONOMY: Powerhouse. The solar system's 53 richest people are all from Brittania.
CIVIL RIGHTS: It still outlaws polygamous relationships and almost all drugs. It did not abolish the death penalty across the board until after World War VII.
POPULATION: 900 million. The move to space was fought by many in Brittania's Bible belt, who saw the impending ecological disasters as a sign of the Second Coming of Christ. Those who stayed behind are presumed dead.
WENT TO: Mercury (though I think Mercury's a bit hot and would have sent them to Mars on the opposite side)
SPACE TRAVEL: Powerful. Massive transporters and spacecraft carriers flex Brittania's great military prowess. Some serve as satellites, though there are no permanent residential areas in space for Brittania. All civilians live on Mars' mainland in a vast space station that is almost twice the sixe of the state of Alaska.

Then we have...

RUSSIAN FEDERATION - made up of Russia, a handful of Central Asian states, and parts of eastern Europe
Much like Tokugawa Japan, Russia entered a state of isolation in the 22rd century after failing to re-emerge as a superpower. Not until 2386, when the Mikhailov regime was overthrown, did the Russians re-emerge as a world power. A defeat in World War VII at the hands of what is now called Brittania forced the Russian state into a modern era.
ECONOMY: Struggling. The post-WW7 hyperinflation caused massive distrust in the government, and the attempt at democracy quickly turned into a one-party state that is trying to revitalize the economy
CIVIL RIGHTS: Minimal. Russians are taught by the one-party government to distrust Brittania and most outsiders
POPULATION: 400 million. World War VII devastated the population, and many died in trying to build the massive space station. Presently, the government is urging people to marry and have children; as such, alternative lifestyles are banned.
WENT TO: Venus. A space station orbits Venus and is said to be able to support 1.5 billion people. However, it is constantly expanding.
SPACE TRAVEL: Very few people leave the Russian Federation per the distruct campaigns by the government. The Russian Federation is not big on showing off its military prowess; however, it is said to be developing fusion weapons.

Next up...

GREATER GERMAN EMPIRE - made up of Germany, most of central, northern, and western Europe as well as much of eastern Europe, which refused to join the Russian Federation
Once a bastion of democracy, Europe underwent a massive monarchist revolution fueled by the Germans, Italians, and Portuguese after 200 years as a unitary European state. The first monarchs imposed Italian as the national European language; however, German became the language and the culture of the resistance. A German-led coup in 2408 instituted an iron-fist dictatorship; the initial level of totalitarian control has evolved into a more authoritarian, nationalist fervor.
ECONOMY: Strong, but not a major priority. Germany is a leader in technology and has a proud military tradition.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Some. After the German revolution, those who did not practice the German "traditional" lifestyle were frequently executed; they are more commonly drafted and made into soldiers now.
POPULATION: 1.1 billion. Allied with Brittania in World War VII, the Germans had a surprisingly small number of casualties, and the Empire added to its population by absorbing neutral countries and providing tax breaks for couples with large families.
WENT TO: Mars. Their space station is large, but luxuries are largely frowned upon for civilians and police; the governments lives in an entirely separate domed city about 200 km from the northern edge of the German station. Most of the military lives in the German Universal Space Station, commonly known in other nations as the Death Star, with their families.
SPACE TRAVEL: The Germans are the best at it. Their military lives in a space station that is larger than Phobos, Mars' larger moon, and the German space navy boasts seven state-of-the-art spacecraft carriers that are able to travel an entire astronomical unit in 53 minutes at full-speed.

We're moving on to...

ISLAMIC KINGDOM - composed of most of Saharan Africa, the Middle East, parts of Central Asia and much of Islamic India
In the 24th century, many Islamic nations were run by clerics who imposed strict interpretations of Sharia; two states declared a victory over Israel, but word escaped that the battle was, in fact, a loss. After Israel started attacking again, the Saudi Revolution began against the clerics of Saudi Arabia. Almost a century later, the majority of Islamic states were functioning democracies, though there is still religious tension between the liberal Sunnis as the theocratic Shi'ites. After a defeat in World War VII, one of Brittania's terms was that the Islamic states had to accept Israel's presence and support the Jewish state. As such, Israel is a province of the islamic Kingdom, albeit a mostly autonomous one.
ECONOMY: Improving. Most Islamic states were rebuilt as capitalist economies after World War VII, and the people tended to be receptive to it.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Good. In most areas, women are regarded as equals, and alternative lifestyles are largely accepted.
POPULATION: 1 billion. However, the highest birth rates are among the conservative Shi'ite population, which, in several generations, may achieve a majority.
WENT TO: TPF has them on or around Neptune. I'd put them on Titan, Saturn's moon. It's frigid, but the space station built on Titan is large and colorful. Like the Russian station, there is no shortage of room to spread out in this station, as it is rightfully assumed to be able to support almost three times its population.
SPACE TRAVEL: The Islamic Kingdom uses space travel largely for trade; its military does not dictate its travel schedules. It has a standing military and a space station, but it's nowhere near as impressive as Germany's and it orbits, delicately, Titan.

We have four now...

AFRICAN HOMELAND - made up of sub-Saharan Africa and refugees from some island nations, although most drowned or assimilated into other nations after global warming
After being largely ignored and exploited by colonial powers, Africa came into its own in the 22nd century. Led by the Congo, Kenya, and South Africa, a revitalization of the African economy gave the continent's people the ability to eliminate most crippling and deadly diseases en masse; Africa was, for many years, on the cutting edge of disease research. However, national rivalries largely prevented sub-Saharan Africa from becoming a world power, as World War VII divided the continent. Internal strife still plagued the continent while it was evacuating Earth, and it is presently a combination of several smaller space stations centralized into one unit.
ECONOMY: Developing. Africans' main source of growth is in the ability to combat disease, but its research is not always coordinated.
CIVIL RIGHTS: The central government does not recognize any alternative lifestyles, as it considers them unhealthy; local governments are lax on cracking down on them, as they consider disease to be an economic booster
POPULATION: 700 million. The central government consists of one smaller space station with only 20 million people, but it's largely resented by individuals as out of touch.
WENT TO: TPF put them on Uranus. I'd scatter them a bit. There are six African stations, and the central government orbits Jupiter as a man-made satellite. Two stations went on Callisto, one on the small moon of Thebe, one on Io, and one was left behind on Phobos.
SPACE TRAVEL: The stations on Jupiter's moons have frequent communication, but each has their own standing military that is minuscule compared to the mighty Germans. The station on Phobos is thought to be developing high-tech weaponry, but it keeps minimal contact with the stations on Jupiter's moons. The central government is largely unconcerned with space travel, and many people born on the African orbiting satellite do not leave it within their lifetimes, including those who serve in its government.

Next up...

PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF THE GALAXY - the ostentatiously-named land that consists of China, Mongolia, Korea, Taiwan, and Vietnam
The Communist revolution of 1949 led to the government that is in east Asia, or more accurately, was in east Asia until the mass migration. It's officially communist, but it largely embraces the free market. it does not embrace political freedoms and is largely seen as a corrupt dictatorship. It remained completely neutral in World War VII; however, China used it as an excuse to garner support from the long-since-united Korea, its arch-nemesis Taiwan, and Vietnam. Mongolia joined this for no other reason than convenience.
ECONOMY: Strong. Not as strong as Brittania, but it's very productive. Civilians tend to work long days for little pay, but thanks to reforms in the 22nd century, working conditions are improved and employers tend to provide health benefits.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Relatively unoppressed. Employers tend to be unconcerned with what people do outside of work, so the government tends to care only about stopping revolution.
POPULATION: 3 billion. This is easily the most populous state, and repeated pushes for population increases have made it that way. When the state reaches its population limit, it institutes laws restricting birth rates, but when the state can handle more people, it encourages more breeding.
WENT TO: Jupiter. Or more accurately, to Io. It built a large space station that is continually expanding. It seems unconcerned with sharing the planet with an African space station; it builds away from the other station. Estimates that the station is three times the size of mainland China are considered reasonable; the station is also, on average, 280 meters high and has massive military areas.
SPACE TRAVEL: Encouraged. Many people travel on business, and the PRG makes a killing in international business. The military is not as strong as Germany's and the economy isn't as strong as Brittania's, but the PRG is considered the most balanced unit.

Lastly, we have...

HINDUSTAN - consisting of India, or what of it isn't taken up by Muslims. Parts of southeast Asia are likely to join in this as well.
In 2311, a hot war between India and Pakistan ensued. Fearing Indian Muslims as operatives for Pakistan, many of them were deported, usually to Bangladesh, and many more were detained. India was forced to make land concessions, and a large section of northeastern India was ceded to Bangladesh and joined the Islamic Kingdom. India became Hindustan and turned its back on much of the world. It cozied up to the state of Burma, which it then considered an ally.
ECONOMY: Struggling. It's never been an emphasis for the Hindu people. Many lower-class workers also refuse to work because they see no opportunity for advancement thanks to state-sanctioned discrimination.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Some. Traditional Hindu social order is upheld, and by law, all marriages are arranged and for life. Parents who do not arrange marriages are forced to allow the state to do so.
POPULATION: 900 million. Losing the many peaceful Muslims of India cost Hindustan in terms of population; the state also does not allow immigrants of any kind. However, it places restrictions on departures and requires all married couples to have children within three years or face a fine.
WENT TO: Saturn, or more accurately, Rhea, one of its moons. Naturally, it built a large space station on the surface of Rhea and has no orbiting satellites. It has a military, but it's contained within the single station.
SPACE TRAVEL: Restricted to those in higher classes, usually. The military and religious classes often travel on fact-finding and diplomatic missions; however, the station is largely isolated and does not tend to interact except in controlled environments.

Some other states I didn't get to would include Pacific Asia (dominated by Japan and including parts of Indonesia and southeast Asia), Latin America (dominated by Mexico and Argentina and being a divided land, much like Africa), and Brazil (also including Suriname and French Guiana as a manner of convenience.)

We should have ten NSers play the ten nations. The one who dominates the most of Earth wins. The host can introduce twists in the game as he/she/it sees fit, but they shouldn't be designed to work against one person.

Winner gets a collector's copy of Eat Hair.
Imperial isa
07-11-2006, 22:44
Hmmm...so so far we have this: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune all have people there. We have a Germany, a Russia, an America/UK, a China, an India, an Africa, and a Middle East. We need stats for them. Stat.

I'll give you an idea of some possible history of these areas.

I'll start with:

BRITTANIA - made up of the USA, Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, most of the Caribbean, and just for the hell of it, Luxembourg
After World War VII, the Federation of Brittania formed as a large federal state. It is the only state in the world that is a first-past-the-post, two-party democracy; it is also the world's largest federal state.
ECONOMY: Powerhouse. The solar system's 53 richest people are all from Brittania.
CIVIL RIGHTS: It still outlaws polygamous relationships and almost all drugs. It did not abolish the death penalty across the board until after World War VII.
POPULATION: 900 million. The move to space was fought by many in Brittania's Bible belt, who saw the impending ecological disasters as a sign of the Second Coming of Christ. Those who stayed behind are presumed dead.
WENT TO: Mercury (though I think Mercury's a bit hot and would have sent them to Mars on the opposite side)
SPACE TRAVEL: Powerful. Massive transporters and spacecraft carriers flex Brittania's great military prowess. Some serve as satellites, though there are no permanent residential areas in space for Brittania. All civilians live on Mars' mainland in a vast space station that is almost twice the sixe of the state of Alaska.

Then we have...

RUSSIAN FEDERATION - made up of Russia, a handful of Central Asian states, and parts of eastern Europe
Much like Tokugawa Japan, Russia entered a state of isolation in the 22rd century after failing to re-emerge as a superpower. Not until 2386, when the Mikhailov regime was overthrown, did the Russians re-emerge as a world power. A defeat in World War VII at the hands of what is now called Brittania forced the Russian state into a modern era.
ECONOMY: Struggling. The post-WW7 hyperinflation caused massive distrust in the government, and the attempt at democracy quickly turned into a one-party state that is trying to revitalize the economy
CIVIL RIGHTS: Minimal. Russians are taught by the one-party government to distrust Brittania and most outsiders
POPULATION: 400 million. World War VII devastated the population, and many died in trying to build the massive space station. Presently, the government is urging people to marry and have children; as such, alternative lifestyles are banned.
WENT TO: Venus. A space station orbits Venus and is said to be able to support 1.5 billion people. However, it is constantly expanding.
SPACE TRAVEL: Very few people leave the Russian Federation per the distruct campaigns by the government. The Russian Federation is not big on showing off its military prowess; however, it is said to be developing fusion weapons.

Next up...

GREATER GERMAN EMPIRE - made up of Germany, most of central, northern, and western Europe as well as much of eastern Europe, which refused to join the Russian Federation
Once a bastion of democracy, Europe underwent a massive monarchist revolution fueled by the Germans, Italians, and Portuguese after 200 years as a unitary European state. The first monarchs imposed Italian as the national European language; however, German became the language and the culture of the resistance. A German-led coup in 2408 instituted an iron-fist dictatorship; the initial level of totalitarian control has evolved into a more authoritarian, nationalist fervor.
ECONOMY: Strong, but not a major priority. Germany is a leader in technology and has a proud military tradition.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Some. After the German revolution, those who did not practice the German "traditional" lifestyle were frequently executed; they are more commonly drafted and made into soldiers now.
POPULATION: 1.1 billion. Allied with Brittania in World War VII, the Germans had a surprisingly small number of casualties, and the Empire added to its population by absorbing neutral countries and providing tax breaks for couples with large families.
WENT TO: Mars. Their space station is large, but luxuries are largely frowned upon for civilians and police; the governments lives in an entirely separate domed city about 200 km from the northern edge of the German station. Most of the military lives in the German Universal Space Station, commonly known in other nations as the Death Star, with their families.
SPACE TRAVEL: The Germans are the best at it. Their military lives in a space station that is larger than Phobos, Mars' larger moon, and the German space navy boasts seven state-of-the-art spacecraft carriers that are able to travel an entire astronomical unit in 53 minutes at full-speed.

We're moving on to...

ISLAMIC KINGDOM - composed of most of Saharan Africa, the Middle East, parts of Central Asia and much of Islamic India
In the 24th century, many Islamic nations were run by clerics who imposed strict interpretations of Sharia; two states declared a victory over Israel, but word escaped that the battle was, in fact, a loss. After Israel started attacking again, the Saudi Revolution began against the clerics of Saudi Arabia. Almost a century later, the majority of Islamic states were functioning democracies, though there is still religious tension between the liberal Sunnis as the theocratic Shi'ites. After a defeat in World War VII, one of Brittania's terms was that the Islamic states had to accept Israel's presence and support the Jewish state. As such, Israel is a province of the islamic Kingdom, albeit a mostly autonomous one.
ECONOMY: Improving. Most Islamic states were rebuilt as capitalist economies after World War VII, and the people tended to be receptive to it.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Good. In most areas, women are regarded as equals, and alternative lifestyles are largely accepted.
POPULATION: 1 billion. However, the highest birth rates are among the conservative Shi'ite population, which, in several generations, may achieve a majority.
WENT TO: TPF has them on or around Neptune. I'd put them on Titan, Saturn's moon. It's frigid, but the space station built on Titan is large and colorful. Like the Russian station, there is no shortage of room to spread out in this station, as it is rightfully assumed to be able to support almost three times its population.
SPACE TRAVEL: The Islamic Kingdom uses space travel largely for trade; its military does not dictate its travel schedules. It has a standing military and a space station, but it's nowhere near as impressive as Germany's and it orbits, delicately, Titan.

We have four now...

AFRICAN HOMELAND - made up of sub-Saharan Africa and refugees from some island nations, although most drowned or assimilated into other nations after global warming
After being largely ignored and exploited by colonial powers, Africa came into its own in the 22nd century. Led by the Congo, Kenya, and South Africa, a revitalization of the African economy gave the continent's people the ability to eliminate most crippling and deadly diseases en masse; Africa was, for many years, on the cutting edge of disease research. However, national rivalries largely prevented sub-Saharan Africa from becoming a world power, as World War VII divided the continent. Internal strife still plagued the continent while it was evacuating Earth, and it is presently a combination of several smaller space stations centralized into one unit.
ECONOMY: Developing. Africans' main source of growth is in the ability to combat disease, but its research is not always coordinated.
CIVIL RIGHTS: The central government does not recognize any alternative lifestyles, as it considers them unhealthy; local governments are lax on cracking down on them, as they consider disease to be an economic booster
POPULATION: 700 million. The central government consists of one smaller space station with only 20 million people, but it's largely resented by individuals as out of touch.
WENT TO: TPF put them on Uranus. I'd scatter them a bit. There are six African stations, and the central government orbits Jupiter as a man-made satellite. Two stations went on Callisto, one on the small moon of Thebe, one on Io, and one was left behind on Phobos.
SPACE TRAVEL: The stations on Jupiter's moons have frequent communication, but each has their own standing military that is minuscule compared to the mighty Germans. The station on Phobos is thought to be developing high-tech weaponry, but it keeps minimal contact with the stations on Jupiter's moons. The central government is largely unconcerned with space travel, and many people born on the African orbiting satellite do not leave it within their lifetimes, including those who serve in its government.

Next up...

PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF THE GALAXY - the ostentatiously-named land that consists of China, Mongolia, Korea, Taiwan, and Vietnam
The Communist revolution of 1949 led to the government that is in east Asia, or more accurately, was in east Asia until the mass migration. It's officially communist, but it largely embraces the free market. it does not embrace political freedoms and is largely seen as a corrupt dictatorship. It remained completely neutral in World War VII; however, China used it as an excuse to garner support from the long-since-united Korea, its arch-nemesis Taiwan, and Vietnam. Mongolia joined this for no other reason than convenience.
ECONOMY: Strong. Not as strong as Brittania, but it's very productive. Civilians tend to work long days for little pay, but thanks to reforms in the 22nd century, working conditions are improved and employers tend to provide health benefits.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Relatively unoppressed. Employers tend to be unconcerned with what people do outside of work, so the government tends to care only about stopping revolution.
POPULATION: 3 billion. This is easily the most populous state, and repeated pushes for population increases have made it that way. When the state reaches its population limit, it institutes laws restricting birth rates, but when the state can handle more people, it encourages more breeding.
WENT TO: Jupiter. Or more accurately, to Io. It built a large space station that is continually expanding. It seems unconcerned with sharing the planet with an African space station; it builds away from the other station. Estimates that the station is three times the size of mainland China are considered reasonable; the station is also, on average, 280 meters high and has massive military areas.
SPACE TRAVEL: Encouraged. Many people travel on business, and the PRG makes a killing in international business. The military is not as strong as Germany's and the economy isn't as strong as Brittania's, but the PRG is considered the most balanced unit.

Lastly, we have...

HINDUSTAN - consisting of India, or what of it isn't taken up by Muslims. Parts of southeast Asia are likely to join in this as well.
In 2311, a hot war between India and Pakistan ensued. Fearing Indian Muslims as operatives for Pakistan, many of them were deported, usually to Bangladesh, and many more were detained. India was forced to make land concessions, and a large section of northeastern India was ceded to Bangladesh and joined the Islamic Kingdom. India became Hindustan and turned its back on much of the world. It cozied up to the state of Burma, which it then considered an ally.
ECONOMY: Struggling. It's never been an emphasis for the Hindu people. Many lower-class workers also refuse to work because they see no opportunity for advancement thanks to state-sanctioned discrimination.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Some. Traditional Hindu social order is upheld, and by law, all marriages are arranged and for life. Parents who do not arrange marriages are forced to allow the state to do so.
POPULATION: 900 million. Losing the many peaceful Muslims of India cost Hindustan in terms of population; the state also does not allow immigrants of any kind. However, it places restrictions on departures and requires all married couples to have children within three years or face a fine.
WENT TO: Saturn, or more accurately, Rhea, one of its moons. Naturally, it built a large space station on the surface of Rhea and has no orbiting satellites. It has a military, but it's contained within the single station.
SPACE TRAVEL: Restricted to those in higher classes, usually. The military and religious classes often travel on fact-finding and diplomatic missions; however, the station is largely isolated and does not tend to interact except in controlled environments.

Some other states I didn't get to would include Pacific Asia (dominated by Japan and including parts of Indonesia and southeast Asia), Latin America (dominated by Mexico and Argentina and being a divided land, much like Africa), and Brazil (also including Suriname and French Guiana as a manner of convenience.)

We should have ten NSers play the ten nations. The one who dominates the most of Earth wins. The host can introduce twists in the game as he/she/it sees fit, but they shouldn't be designed to work against one person.

Winner gets a collector's copy of Eat Hair.

i like were you place Australia :D
Yootopia
07-11-2006, 22:44
It's called Earth 2152. It's quite a good game already.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
07-11-2006, 23:39
A WWI FPS would be mad boring. Charge, Die, Shoot, Charge, Die, Shoot...rinse and repeat as needed.
You forgot the part where you step on a land mine and have your face and limbs blown off, so you have to spend the next 30 years laying in a bed drugged up and hallucinating about your past. Pressing the fire button would allow you to move one of your arm nubs to try and communicate with your nurses via morse code.

Or maybe not.
But I still want to play a game based on Johnny Got His Gun.
Taldaan
07-11-2006, 23:40
The best game ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBW4ZBni3kA
The Potato Factory
08-11-2006, 03:00
It's called Earth 2152. It's quite a good game already.

Earth 2150 was decent, at best. I found it quite tedious. And besides, it's premise is far different from mine. Besides the escape to space, they're different.
Neu Leonstein
08-11-2006, 04:01
So, I went ahead today and bought Company of Heroes. Looks like a great game.

But what's with the constant crashing? I haven't even finished the tutorials yet because it crashes on me all the time!

I downloaded the latest patch. Didn't help much. So, does anyone have any ideas?
The Potato Factory
08-11-2006, 04:06
So, I went ahead today and bought Company of Heroes. Looks like a great game.

But what's with the constant crashing? I haven't even finished the tutorials yet because it crashes on me all the time!

I downloaded the latest patch. Didn't help much. So, does anyone have any ideas?

I heard it's one of the best RTS games every made; one of the only drawbacks is no Axis campaign.
Neu Leonstein
08-11-2006, 04:12
I heard it's one of the best RTS games every made; one of the only drawbacks is no Axis campaign.
It might be. I loved Dawn of War, and this is quite similar, plus lots of cool stuff I'd always wanted in a WWII game.

But as I said, it's no fun if it crashes every ten minutes.
Ice Hockey Players
08-11-2006, 17:39
i like were you place Australia :D

Indeed. Well, it was that or put them in Oceania, and if I named ANY state here Oceania, this would invoke NS's variant of Godwin's law, in which any reference to "1984" automatically means you lose.

Anywho, there are three states I didn't get to.

LATIN AMERICA - composed of Central America and most of South America (except Brazil, Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana; Belize and Guyana go to Brittania)
After centuries of internal strife and nationalist wars, the Latin American nation forged itself into one state after World War VII. Led by Colombia and Venezuela, the opposition South American Alliance was defeated in World War VII and forced to join a united state.
ECONOMY: Developing. The war boosted the national economy; however, peace and rebuilding were particularly cruel to a new state that had problems with a new currency.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Relatively open. Alternative lifestyles are allowed, although people often view those on the opposite end of the political spectrum with suspicion.
POPULATION: 1.2 billion. A postwar baby boom proved to be both a difficult economic problem and a challenge for fleeing the planet. Many people who thought they would be left behind fled to other large states.
WENT TO: Ceres. The main station is on Ceres, and many smaller stations are around it. The Latin space station is united in communication but has many smaller components.
SPACE TRAVEL: The Latin fleet is among the most mobile; it has difficulty supporting its full population and is offering benefits to those who can either increase its population capacity or stop people from having children. Its best fleet can make it to Saturn in four days.

Now we have...

BRASILIA - consisting of Brazil, Suriname, French Guiana, some smallish islands in the Caribbean, and some Quebecers who couldn't bear to join Brittania
Brasilia took the name of its capital city after the mass migration; for the most part, it has been a steadily developing economic power that loves festivities and athletics and shuns war. It remained completely neutral in World War VII and took in refugees who did not want to fight under condition that they remain out of the war. Critics argue that the Brazilian state made a killing selling needed medical supplies to both sides in the war; the continue to serve as a general store for necessities in space.
ECONOMY: Strong. Although it refuses to deal in war materials, many Brasilians serve as foreign contractors to other nations' space stations. Many people deride Brasilia for keeping its best technological advancements at home.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Beloved. Brasilians are among the most free people in the galaxy; aside from having a low tax rate, they enjoy frequent elections, a government that supports almost all lifestyles, and a police force that investigates only major crimes. People wonder if maybe Brasilians are 'too' free.
POPULATION: 800 million. The state raises many children because young parents can't or don't want to take care of them. Brasilia was the only state on the planet not to lose anyone to World War VII and lost only 186 people in the mass migration, far below the average loss of 125,000 people from the other states.
WENT TO: Callisto, moon of Jupiter. The frigid surface is compensated for by a station that, inside, has an average temperature of 29 C. The massive space station is constantly up-to-date and generally does not have the same failing technology problems seen in other, poorer states. Other states' technology tends to be about six years behind Brasilia's. Also, the average Brasilian living quarters is about 196 square meters, far exceeding the galactic average of 88 square meters.
SPACE TRAVEL: Constant and often for business. Brasilian professionals spend most of their time on business trips to other states selling technology that they insist is up-to-date; however, most of it became obsolete two years prior. Those who have never left Brasilia by the age of 20 are often viewed as deprived; those who never leave Brasilia are seen as shut-ins or xenophobes.

Last, but not least...

PACIFIC ASIA - consisting of Japan, most of Indonesia, most of southeast Asia, New Guinea, and a chunk of eastern Russia
In the Russo-Japanese War of 2158, the Japanese ceded much of eastern Russia and developed it, and they became the first to experiment with the concept of a domed city. This helped to lead the Russians into the Mikhailov period of isolation and the Japanese into a period of alliance-building. Though the war was a defensive one at first, the Japanese quickly amended their pacifist Constitution, defeated the Russians, and ceded land. Quickly, they became business partners with the Indonesians and developed ties in other parts of Asia after Korea was effectively tapped out.
ECONOMY: Strong. They are the only state that can continually refuse Brasilia's technology upgrades, as they generally make their own. People are generally identified with their occupations and tend not to change careers.
CIVIL RIGHTS: Enjoyed, but used in harmony with a larger group. People dress extremely minimally, wearing only work boots and skin-tight clothing to ocver their genitals, but those in the same company tend to dress in identical colors, with those higher-up wearing fancier designs. It is the only state that encourages nudity and minimal dress.
POPULATION: 1.5 billion. The normal family is a husband, wife, and three children; a quarter of all families can be described this way. However, the three-child mark is to sustain the population, as many people practice alternative lifestyles and have no children.
WENT TO: Earth's moon. Indonesians believed that the Earth would be habitable again one day and wanted to be closer to it. However, even the view from the moon has generally been discouraging, as massive storms are visible on Earth from the moon.
SPACE TRAVEL: Those from Pacific Asia tend to be fiercely nationalistic, but business travel occurs among the more entrepreneurial. Many people are shocked by the Pacific Asian disdain for clothing, so the most popular destination is Brasilia, where people tend to be less squeamish about it. Spacecraft can get from the station on the Moon to Titan in seven days without any trouble most of the time. Pacific Asia is a reluctant warrior but holds a vast military reserve in case it is needed.

So which nation would be likeliest to receive copies of Eat Hair for everyone? More importantly, how would attack chickens play into this game? I think the Africans and Russians would have a lot of use for them.
Imperial isa
08-11-2006, 17:45
Indeed. Well, it was that or put them in Oceania, and if I named ANY state here Oceania, this would invoke NS's variant of Godwin's law, in which any reference to "1984" automatically means you lose.

don't like that :mad:
iam happy for what you did :)
Ice Hockey Players
08-11-2006, 20:45
don't like that :mad:
iam happy for what you did :)

Putting Australia in Oceania is ungood then. And if I had a complete list of NS-style stats, I could fill them in for a big ol' RP for a game like this. Sure, the stats would have to be refined, and people playing more difficult states would have to be given some kind of advantages, but we could turn it into an RP. Probably in the NationStates forum.
Imperial isa
08-11-2006, 20:50
Putting Australia in Oceania is ungood then. And if I had a complete list of NS-style stats, I could fill them in for a big ol' RP for a game like this. Sure, the stats would have to be refined, and people playing more difficult states would have to be given some kind of advantages, but we could turn it into an RP. Probably in the NationStates forum.

we play to win
The Potato Factory
09-11-2006, 08:33
It might be. I loved Dawn of War, and this is quite similar, plus lots of cool stuff I'd always wanted in a WWII game.

But as I said, it's no fun if it crashes every ten minutes.

What kind of system do you have? Never crashes for me.
Hamilay
09-11-2006, 09:23
From the descriptions of those nations it sounds to me like Russia, India and Latin America would probably get stomped against one of the others like the PRG. Aren't fusion weapons called hydrogen bombs?
Company of Heroes was a bit sad IMO because there was no mention of the British or the Russians. A Russian expansion would be teh awesome.
Ice Hockey Players
09-11-2006, 15:30
From the descriptions of those nations it sounds to me like Russia, India and Latin America would probably get stomped against one of the others like the PRG. Aren't fusion weapons called hydrogen bombs?
Company of Heroes was a bit sad IMO because there was no mention of the British or the Russians. A Russian expansion would be teh awesome.

As I said, somehow there would have to be other advantages built in for some nations...I just haven't decided what. Maybe a little bit of an idea booster is in order.

As for fusion weapons...hmm, I don't know. I get the idea from "cold fusion" which is presently theoretical but my not be in the 27th century. Perhaps they would be similar to nuclear weapons; the idea is that they would be far more devastating and far scarier. Also, if there's a weapon that would allow for an area to be completely obliterated but habitable within a few years (not like nukes, which make areas virtually uninhabitable for decades) then those could be used.
The Plutonian Empire
09-11-2006, 15:45
It's an idea I've been nursing for a few weeks now.

Basically, it'd be a futuristic RTS. The basic story is that a couple of hundred years from now, a massive world war/natural disaster/something like that makes the Earth uninhabitable, so the major civilisations pack up and colonise the other planets of the system. A few hundred years after that, a combination of time and technology makes Earth a bit more inhabitable, so the civilisations each individually decide to reclaim the "holy land" on Earth.

The playable nations would be:

Martian Empire
Based on: Germany and Western Europe
Colour: Grey
Holy land: Germany

Venusian Federation
Based on: Russia and Eastern Europe
Colour: Red
Holy land: Arkhangelsk

Republic of Mercury
Based on: USA, Canada, the British Isles and Anglo nations in general
Colour: Blue
Holy land: Great Britain

People's State of Jupiter
Based on: China and east Asia
Colour: Orange
Holy land: Beijing

Republic of Saturn
Based on: India and the subcontinent
Colour: Purple
Holy land: India

Republic of Uranus
Based on: Southern and central Africa
Colour: Yellow
Holy land: South Africa

Holy Republic of Neptune
Based on: Iran and the Middle East
Colour: Green
Holy land: Arabia

Each planet is meant to be a thinly veiled reference to modern nations.

Essentially, the game will play like DoW: DC; there's be an overworld map where you attack, defend and manage territories. The combat will be RTS style.

I know it's cliched, but I think it's at least decent. What do you think?
Hey, don't forget me! ;) :D
Ifreann
09-11-2006, 15:47
Hey, don't forget me! ;) :D

Pffft, you're not a planet, you don't count.
The Plutonian Empire
09-11-2006, 15:48
Pffft, you're not a planet, you don't count.
Puny Earthlings. :p
Neu Leonstein
10-11-2006, 00:02
What kind of system do you have? Never crashes for me.
Well, I got two sticks of 512MB DDR-400 for my birthday. It seems that those didn't get along with the other stick of 512MB DDR-400 that was in there before, causing frequent crashes even when not playing the game.

I took the single old stick out, and it hasn't given me any problems since. What a great game though. I wish my brother had XP (and not Win2000) so we could play multiplayer.

Terror Germans for the win! ;)
The Potato Factory
10-11-2006, 06:24
Well, I got two sticks of 512MB DDR-400 for my birthday. It seems that those didn't get along with the other stick of 512MB DDR-400 that was in there before, causing frequent crashes even when not playing the game.

I took the single old stick out, and it hasn't given me any problems since. What a great game though. I wish my brother had XP (and not Win2000) so we could play multiplayer.

Terror Germans for the win! ;)

Yeah, RAM can be an immense fucking bitch. My old mobo had something wrong with it's RAM slots, so I could never run more that one stick without it crashing. Now I can run anything, and I never get a crash.
JiangGuo
10-11-2006, 07:15
Republic of Uranus
Based on: Southern and central Africa
Colour: Yellow
Holy land: South Africa


You just couldn't resist the Ur-anus joke could you?
The Potato Factory
10-11-2006, 07:28
You just couldn't resist the Ur-anus joke could you?

Not my fault there's a planet named that.