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Here's a hymn: It Is Well With My Soul. I had forgotten about it. We got a new pastor about two years ago, and since he controls which hymns are sung, he must not like this one, becuase it hasn't been sung for a while. Anyway, it was played for the offertory this morning, and I went home and looked up the words. Here are the words for the first verse:

When peace like a river attendeth my way
When sorrows like seabillows blow
Whatever my lot, Thou hast taught me to say
"It is well, it is well with my soul"

My question is based on the first verse, more than the others. Is it well with your soul, no matter what happens? I'm not asking if you're always happy, so much as whether you say "Okay, this is how it is."

Why is it well/not well? What do you do, based on that wellness or lack there of? Any other things you feel like saying, too.

PS - Here are the words to the last verses: obviously more Christian, and more particular to a Christian's life.

Though Satan should buffet tho' trials should come
Let this blest assurance control
That Christ has regareded my helpless estate
And hath shed His own blood for my soul.

My sin - O the bliss of this glorious thought
My sin - not in part but in whole
Is nailed to the cross and I bear it no more
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!

For me, be it Christ, be it Christ hence to live:
If Jordan above me shall roll,
No pang shall be mine, for in death as in life
Thou wilt whisper Thy peace to my soul.

But, Lord, ‘tis for Thee, for Thy coming we wait,
The sky, not the grave, is our goal;
Oh trump of the angel! Oh voice of the Lord!
Blessèd hope, blessèd rest of my soul!

And, Lord, haste the day when the faith shall be sight
The clouds be rolled back as a scroll
The trump shall resound and the Lord shall descend
"Even so" - it is well with my soul.

I sold my soul to the Devil.

I sold my soul to the Devil.

I don't know why. God payed much more for it.

Do you mean do I ever feel resentment about the circumstance I may find myself in? One would have to be an incredible person not to feel some kind of annoyance when things don't go your way. Your soul always being well isn't really possible.

I don't know why. God payed much more for it.

God hasn't helped my soul, why should I let him put his dirty hands all over it?

Do you mean do I ever feel resentment about the circumstance I may find myself in? One would have to be an incredible person not to feel some kind of annoyance when things don't go your way. Your soul always being well isn't really possible.

I don't really think of resentment and annoyance being on the same level. Might I be annoyed? Of course. But that's the same thing as sadness: it passes. Resentment is much more lasting and much more poisonous.

I sold my soul to the Devil.

Did he give you one of these?


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God hasn't helped my soul, why should I let him put his dirty hands all over it?

Have you let Him help it? Or have you kept it hidden away?

If you mean do I accept what is going on with my life, who and what I am, am I satisfied with where I have come from and where I (seem to be) going to, the answer is yes, it is well with my soul.

I don't know why. God payed much more for it.

In the end god did not pay more for it then any number of inosents over the years have ... hell he payed less. Even the phisical being of his son was taken up not just his spirit.

Though in the end the only one collecting on the "pay" was god ... why he chose to charge himself so much, seems pretty silly to me

Did he give you one of these?


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Anything you want.

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Yes, but it was red.

never really got the idea of a soul. not sure that sure that i have one. if i did though it'd have a couple of flesh wounds but untimately be sound. certainly no breakages anyway.

My soul is not for sale. but I have great rental rates. :)

I don't really think of resentment and annoyance being on the same level. Might I be annoyed? Of course. But that's the same thing as sadness: it passes. Resentment is much more lasting and much more poisonous.

All things will pass, is that it? I certainly think resentment is wrong but there are situations that people live in where they are powerless to change things for themselves. Hard to avoid the resentment in this case.

Have you let Him help it? Or have you kept it hidden away?

If "He" created my soul, you'd think he'd have some initiative in helping it.

If "He" created my soul, you'd think he'd have some initiative in helping it.

Oh, I most certainly think that, but I also think that you must be cooperative.

I sold my friend's soul to the devil.

I attempted to feed chicken soup to my soul. It seemed to have preferred pho beef noodles. :rolleyes:

My soul is not for sale. but I have great rental rates. :)

I lease. ;)

Yahweh is a DICK.

All things will pass, is that it? I certainly think resentment is wrong but there are situations that people live in where they are powerless to change things for themselves. Hard to avoid the resentment in this case.

We're all powerless to some degree: depends what realm we're talking about.

I agree; it is hard to avoid resentment, even for those who can change things. But, hard is not the same as impossible. And if it's not impossible, there is still room for responsibility (even if it is impossilbe, there may still be room for responsibility, but that's a different discussion.)

Personally, I'm on a timeshare program. Gives me great flexability.

Is all well with my soul? Well, I don't particularly subscribe to that concept.
Do I accept my life as it is, am I happy, do I like myself? yes. Very much so.

I sold my soul to the Devil.

Did you get the devil to teach you how to play guitar real fine?

We're all powerless to some degree: depends what realm we're talking about.

I agree; it is hard to avoid resentment, even for those who can change things. But, hard is not the same as impossible. And if it's not impossible, there is still room for responsibility (even if it is impossilbe, there may still be room for responsibility, but that's a different discussion.)

I think it might be more personality then anything else that explains why some people are whiny jerks and others can be hit repeatedly with challenge after challenge and will still always have a smile and a positive outlook. You never can really tell.

Oh, I most certainly think that, but I also think that you must be cooperative.

Oh well.

Hey, Satan just baked a cake, gotta go!

My soul is not for sale. but I have great rental rates. :)
Now I have this very odd image of going to Blockbuster and renting out LG's soul for the weekend.

:p

Here's a hymn: It Is Well With My Soul. I had forgotten about it. We got a new pastor about two years ago, and since he controls which hymns are sung, he must not like this one, becuase it hasn't been sung for a while. Anyway, it was played for the offertory this morning, and I went home and looked up the words. Here are the words for the first verse:

When peace like a river attendeth my way
When sorrows like seabillows blow
Whatever my lot, Thou hast taught me to say
"It is well, it is well with my soul"

My question is based on the first verse, more than the others. Is it well with your soul, no matter what happens? I'm not asking if you're always happy, so much as whether you say "Okay, this is how it is."

Why is it well/not well? What do you do, based on that wellness or lack there of? Any other things you feel like saying, too.

PS - Here are the words to the other three verses: obviously more Christian, and more particular to a Christian's life.

Though Satan should buffet tho' trials should come
Let this blest assurance control
That Christ has regareded my helpless estate
And hath shed His own blood for my soul.

My sin - O the bliss of this glorious thought
My sin - not in part but in whole
Is nailed to the cross and I bear it no more
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!

And, Lord, haste the day when the faith shall be sight
The clouds be rolled back as a scroll
The trump shall resound and the Lord shall descend
"Even so" - it is well with my soul.

my mother wants that sung at her funeral. the man who wrote it wrote it after his wife and daughters drowned at sea. incidentally, yes, it is well with my soul.

Did you get the devil to teach you how to play guitar real fine?

Fiddle. ;)

my mother wants that sung at her funeral.

My mom wants it sung at her funeral, too. Along with the rest of the hymnal.

Yahweh is a DICK.

I feel like I should disagree with you, but mostly I just object to your addition of vowels to the tertragramatton. other than that I actually somewhat agree, though I generally tend to agree with theists more than atheists.

I think it might be more personality then anything else that explains why some people are whiny jerks and others can be hit repeatedly with challenge after challenge and will still always have a smile and a positive outlook. You never can really tell.

So, how much should a person change (or attempt to change) his/her personality in order to change his/her outlook? Should s/he change?

I have to disagree with the being able to tell part. Maybe not from appearances, but just sit and talk to someone, and you can usuallt tell after a bit. Sometimes it's hard to tell someone who is joyful (an outlook: it is well with his/her soul) or happy (fleeting emotion).

Now I have this very odd image of going to Blockbuster and renting out LG's soul for the weekend.

:p

Be kind. Rewind. :)

I feel like I should disagree with you, but mostly I just object to your addition of vowels to the tertragramatton. other than that I actually somewhat agree, though I generally tend to agree with theists more than atheists.

Dude, I call him as he likes. He wants "Yahweh?" Awesome. If he wanted to be called "Assfuck McGee"...well, I'd be more than happy to oblige.

Mind you, my initial statement is entirely a subjective opinion based on my own interactions, but many others have agreed to it as well. No other god I've had to deal with is as much of a bitch as Yahweh. Yeah, they get irked, annoyed, pissed off...but they deal & they cool off. Only Yahweh acts a big giant hard throbbing COCK.

Be kind. Rewind. :)
You mean your soul is not on DVD yet?

Fiddle. ;)

I see. I suppose you had to go to Georgia to get this skill? :D

So, how much should a person change (or attempt to change) his/her personality in order to change his/her outlook? Should s/he change?

I have to disagree with the being able to tell part. Maybe not from appearances, but just sit and talk to someone, and you can usuallt tell after a bit. Sometimes it's hard to tell someone who is joyful (an outlook: it is well with his/her soul) or happy (fleeting emotion).

I can't begin to guess how to change someones personality. Best I can think of is for them to WANT to change to begin with and then have someone sit on them to remind them continuously of their promise to try to change. If they don't go crazy from you smothering them then they should see improvement. :)

You may not be able to tell immediately but I'm sure you could talk to others who know them better and find out how the person reacted to trials in their life or in troubles in someone else's life. Or get to know them better yourself. If it happens to be negative and you cared about the person then you could try the above.

You mean your soul is not on DVD yet?

The 2-disk special edition is due next spring. :)

Dude, I call him as he likes. He wants "Yahweh?" Awesome. If he wanted to be called "Assfuck McGee"...well, I'd be more than happy to oblige.

Mind you, my initial statement is entirely a subjective opinion based on my own interactions, but many others have agreed to it as well. No other god I've had to deal with is as much of a bitch as Yahweh. Yeah, they get irked, annoyed, pissed off...but they deal & they cool off. Only Yahweh acts a big giant hard throbbing COCK.

nothing wrong with a big giant hard throbbing cock...er...<_<
>_>

You mean your soul is not on DVD yet?

I got a bootleg copy of LG's soul on a CD-R so I'm good. :)

The 2-disk special edition is due next spring. :)

Any good bonus features, or should I just wait for Bluray/HDDVD?

I got a bootleg copy of LG's soul on a CD-R so I'm good. :)

But you didn't get any of the special features, deleted scenes or commentaries. :p

Any good bonus features, or should I just wait for Bluray/HDDVD?

The blooper reel is hilarious. :)

nothing wrong with a big giant hard throbbing cock...er...<_<
>_>

Agreed, & vehemently at that. But BEING one as opposed to HAVING one...

Or maybe I'm just jealous because everyone's got a bigger one than me. I dunno. Whichever, Yahweh needs an asskicking & I think I know just who should do it.

The blooper reel is hilarious. :)
hmm...alright, I'm in. Who do I make the check out to?

But you didn't get any of the special features, deleted scenes or commentaries. :p

No, but I didn't have to buy the soul. :)

The blooper reel is hilarious. :)

I'm sure that takes up an entire disk. :D

Be kind. Rewind. :)

*spills soda on video*

Don't quit your day job, "poetry" boy.

But you didn't get any of the special features, deleted scenes or commentaries. :p

Thats why I got the whole ISO

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/lg.jpg

Don't quit your day job, "poetry" boy.

I didn't write it.

hmm...alright, I'm in. Who do I make the check out to?

:) I'm a natural born salesman. :)

I didn't write it.

even if he had, it's not a bad song. it doesn't particularly speak to me, personally, but whatever.

even if he had, it's not a bad song. it doesn't particularly speak to me, personally, but whatever.

Might be nice to hear a rendition. MP3?

Might be nice to hear a rendition. MP3?

sorry, I don't like it *that* much. unfortunately, for hymns the only thing you're likely to find on the internet is a completely tacky midi file. devotional music has rather different (...I'm trying not to say "lower") standards than the other sorts. it's kind of fun to sing, anyway. very, very simple melody though. very minimalist - given the source, it's not at all suprising. I'm afraid to even try finding a recording of it, though - I tried to do that with an old hymn once and the grating midis were unbearable. if you recall "Mighty Joe Young" - a movie about a giant gorilla, they appropriated a hymn form the same era and pretended it was an african lullaby. "come thou font of every blessing" - I like that one much better, actually. my parents were livid they secularised the song, but I didn't particularly care. the simple melodies can be nice, but again, devotional performances are very rarely worth listening to...

if you recall "Mighty Joe Young" - a movie about a giant gorilla, they appropriated a hymn form the same era and pretended it was an african lullaby. "come thou font of every blessing" - I like that one much better, actually. my parents were livid they secularised the song, but I didn't particularly care. the simple melodies can be nice, but again, devotional performances are very rarely worth listening to...

They called it an African lullaby? It's a traditional American melody. That annoys me some. Did they change the words? That would anger me some.

They called it an African lullaby? It's a traditional American melody. That annoys me some. Did they change the words? That would anger me some.

Ironic, considering the national anthem (and most "patriotic" songs) are British, Welsh, Scotch, and Irish drinking songs.

Thats why I got the whole ISO

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/lg.jpg

Well, I'll be damned. :p

my soul is with poseidon and aegir, you'll have to ask them. i'm sure it's having fun withe the nixes and mermaids though.

They called it an African lullaby? It's a traditional American melody. That annoys me some. Did they change the words? That would anger me some.

the melody was in a fake african language. when I tried to sing it to myself after the movie, I said something like "wimbawimbo kamakazee" instead of "come thou fount of every blessing" - it was still lovely.

Ironic, considering the national anthem (and most "patriotic" songs) are British, Welsh, Scotch, and Irish drinking songs.

send her victoooorious long to reign oooooo'er us haaapppppy aaaand glooooorious, goooood saaaave the queeeeeeen!

land where my faaaaather's died land of the piiiilgrims pride from eeeevery moooountainside leeeet freeedoooom riiiiiiing!

Thats why I got the whole ISO

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/lg.jpg

Should this be taking forever to load?

Should this be taking forever to load?

I started it 10 minutes ago and it's not done. I'm using dsl, too.

Should this be taking forever to load?

Sorry that server has issues tonight will shuffle in a second lol

me too, i couldn't make it out when it finally did either. half the image was just black.

I didn't write it.

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Nice edit. Sweeps up your tracks of insinuation...

/Sucks still.

Sorry that server has issues tonight will shuffle in a second lol

After all that, all that has happened is that I feel like I am missing out by not seeing your wallpaper.

After all that, all that has happened is that I feel like I am missing out by not seeing your wallpaper.

Lol give me a sec uploading it to work server instead of my personal one ... wonder why it is in the dumps :)

After all that, all that has happened is that I feel like I am missing out by not seeing your wallpaper.

Misread you want to see the wall paper too? :)

its Jennifer Morrison from house
http://www.houseisright.com/wp-content/uploads/jpretty.jpg
Edit holy fucking god that image is big ... beter link
http://img262.echo.cx/img262/3710/portraitsofjennifermorri24id.jpg

I started it 10 minutes ago and it's not done. I'm using dsl, too.

www.upwardthrust.us/lg.jpg (THERE!)

I may or may not have lost my soul in a bet over a junior high basketball game.

I don't think my soul is doing me a whole lot of good either way.

Jesus titty lickin christ that's a huge page break.

Jesus titty lickin christ that's a huge page break.

I fixed it soon as I saw how it loaded lol

I fixed it soon as I saw how it loaded lol

Twas a good lookin page break none the less. ;)

Twas a good lookin page break none the less. ;)

I thought so too :) she is a hottie ... why do you think she graces my desktop :) she is an awsome actress

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Nice edit. Sweeps up your tracks of insinuation...

/Sucks still.

I was looking for some history on the song and I found the other two verses which are not included in my hymnal. They were not added for your pleasure.

I have no idea what I would be insinuating.

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This would be a lot easier to answer if I had an idea of exactly what a soul is. No one has ever been able to adequately explain it to me in terms I could easily understand.

This would be a lot easier to answer if I had an idea of exactly what a soul is. No one has ever been able to adequately explain it to me in terms I could easily understand.

Underside of the shoe. The part that comes in contact with the ground.

This would be a lot easier to answer if I had an idea of exactly what a soul is. No one has ever been able to adequately explain it to me in terms I could easily understand.

there's not a consensus even within the religions sphere what a soul is. the egyptians identified two seperate and important parts - an early greek christian would distinguish between all sorts of them; Nous, Pyche, *more I forgot the names for...I wonder if Logoi have direct correspondances or if the term can even be applied to a human...* - in Yoruba there are 5 elements I think, or maybe it's three. heh, fairly simple things in our standard western cosmology were topics of severe debate way back when. you should see the miaphysites argue with the monophysites. blood has been spilled over how many qnomes and parsopa's jesus had. (just don't call the miaphysites diophysites, or they'll go nuts!) haha, you asked a really, really complicated question.

Underside of the shoe. The part that comes in contact with the ground.

That'd be "sole", not "soul". ;)

there's not a consensus even within the religions sphere what a soul is. the egyptians identified two seperate and important parts - an early greek christian would distinguish between all sorts of them; Nous, Pyche, *more I forgot the names for...I wonder if Logoi have direct correspondances or if the term can even be applied to a human...* - in Yoruba there are 5 elements I think, or maybe it's three. heh, fairly simple things in our standard western cosmology were topics of severe debate way back when. you should see the miaphysites argue with the monophysites. blood has been spilled over how many qnomes and parsopa's jesus had. (just don't call the miaphysites diophysites, or they'll go nuts!) haha, you asked a really, really complicated question.

I know I did. ;)