Abandonia! NOOOO!
Yootopia
06-11-2006, 01:08
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Argh.
Potarius
06-11-2006, 01:09
What?
Yootopia
06-11-2006, 01:11
What?
It was a top-end Abandonware site.
I am truly sad.
IL Ruffino
06-11-2006, 01:13
:(
It was a top-end Abandonware site.
I am truly sad.
wtf is abandonware?
Yootopia
06-11-2006, 01:19
wtf is abandonware?
To put it simply -
Old games that nobody protects any more, that are unsold and unsupported being distributed in a grey-market fashion for free.
wtf is abandonware?
software that has been abandoned by the creator, because it's so old that they don't make any money off of it and don't care about it any more.
like "software" or "freeware", but "abandonware"
LazyOtaku
06-11-2006, 01:44
wtf is abandonware?
It's an euphemism used by open source communists to legitimize the theft of old software.
Greyenivol Colony
06-11-2006, 01:52
Why do I always learn about good things after they are gone?
Teh_pantless_hero
06-11-2006, 02:21
wtf is abandonware?
All Sega systems. Zing.
Shikishima
06-11-2006, 02:27
All Sega systems. Zing.
I can go one better: I own an Atari Lynx.
IL Ruffino
06-11-2006, 02:39
I can go one better: I own an Atari Lynx.
http://dietsoda.net/forums/html/emoticons/blink.gif
Why?
Shikishima
06-11-2006, 02:40
It was that or a Game Gear...& the Lynx had Roadblasters. Plus flippiness for lefties.
IL Ruffino
06-11-2006, 02:49
It was that or a Game Gear...& the Lynx had Roadblasters. Plus flippiness for lefties.
May I have it?
Shikishima
06-11-2006, 02:59
May I have it?
:::frowns quizzically::: No, I want to play Roadblasters.
IL Ruffino
06-11-2006, 03:08
:::frowns quizzically::: No, I want to play Roadblasters.
Gimme!
*steals*
Shikishima
06-11-2006, 03:12
Do NOT make me cut a bitch.
IL Ruffino
06-11-2006, 03:18
Do NOT make me cut a bitch.
Oh snap yo!
*locks door and starts palying Roadblasters*
Shikishima
06-11-2006, 03:25
Oh snap yo!
*locks door and starts palying Roadblasters*
Whatever. I have porn to watch.
IL Ruffino
06-11-2006, 03:39
Whatever. I have porn to watch.
:eek:
Andaluciae
06-11-2006, 03:42
Whatever. I have porn to watch.
Oh, dearie me!
/Margaret Thatcher
Shikishima
06-11-2006, 03:52
...What?
Dongania
06-11-2006, 10:11
It's an euphemism used by open source communists to legitimize the theft of old software.
Abandonia asked for permission before offering programs for download, if there was someone left holding the rights. And they took lots of downloads offline after being told the owner wanted to sell the game again. They kept the review online but replaced the download link with one to a vendor that sold those games. I can't see the problem with this?
Nani Goblin
06-11-2006, 10:26
It's an euphemism used by open source communists to legitimize the theft of old software.
you have got some serious problems
It's an euphemism used by open source communists to legitimize the theft of old software.
How can you steal something that the manufacturers have stopped producing?
Hell, abandonware does us all a service by making sure that old titles aren't lost to time.
Abandonia asked for permission before offering programs for download, if there was someone left holding the rights. And they took lots of downloads offline after being told the owner wanted to sell the game again. They kept the review online but replaced the download link with one to a vendor that sold those games. I can't see the problem with this?
That's right.
Anyway, [removed] is still up and running, even if it hasn't been updated for a while.
Harlesburg
06-11-2006, 11:12
http://dietsoda.net/forums/html/emoticons/blink.gif
Why?
Because Retro is cool!
Harlesburg
06-11-2006, 11:14
How can you steal something that the manufacturers have stopped producing?
Hell, abandonware does us all a service by making sure that old titles aren't lost to time.
That's right.
Anyway, [removed] is still up and running, even if it hasn't been updated for a while.
Damn straight, these places are like the Great Libraries of Alexandria for games like this...
LazyOtaku
06-11-2006, 16:42
*snip*
*snip*
*snip*
I've heard that they're selling these things very cheap now. :)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4035/aabf18sarcasmdetectorsz9.jpg
Righteous Munchee-Love
06-11-2006, 16:57
Give [removed] a try.
Btw, thanks again, Szanth ;)
BAAWAKnights
06-11-2006, 18:44
The site is active again.
[NS]Fried Tuna
06-11-2006, 18:45
It's an euphemism used by open source communists to legitimize the theft of old software.
And WTF does open source have to do with abandonware? Most Abandonware communities have asbsolutely nothing to do with OSS.
And, actually, there are some real abandonware floating about... Depending on copyright laws licenses to some software have defaulted to countries (and thus public domain) after the companies went belly-up. Also, many games have been released to PD by their owners (Beneath a steel sky comes to mind) In addition to those, many companies have an active policy not to enforce copyright on stuff that is not commercially viable as it is essentially free advertising. It ain't stealing if the owner says it's ok.
That being said, most of the stuff found on abandoware sites is just plain stealing.
Zhar Khan
06-11-2006, 18:48
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Argh.
I just checked, and it is up and running fine. [removed] I use it to get games that I paid for 10-15 years ago, and then stupidly threw away. Some of the retro games are more fun than the new ones.
The Black Forrest
06-11-2006, 18:48
Abandonia asked for permission before offering programs for download, if there was someone left holding the rights. And they took lots of downloads offline after being told the owner wanted to sell the game again. They kept the review online but replaced the download link with one to a vendor that sold those games. I can't see the problem with this?
Well copyright doesn't give permission if they can't find somebody to ask. This is a common mistake made by abandonware proponents. In many cases, you have to do some digging to find who owns the copyright as they could have changed hands a few times.
Abandonware is not legal.
/*takes off old 3DO hat*/
The Black Forrest
06-11-2006, 18:49
How can you steal something that the manufacturers have stopped producing?
Hell, abandonware does us all a service by making sure that old titles aren't lost to time.
The copyright is still in force usually. The fact it's no longer supported doesn't give you the right to copy it.
Unless of course you have formal permission.
It's an euphemism used by open source communists to legitimize the theft of old software.
Legitimize theft of old software no one bothers to sell anymore? How horrible of them.
The Black Forrest
06-11-2006, 19:50
Legitimize theft of old software no one bothers to sell anymore? How horrible of them.
If you don't have permission from the vendor/creator, then yes it's theft......
Yootopia
06-11-2006, 22:57
Give Abandonia Reloaded (http://www.reloaded.org/) a try.
Btw, thanks again, Szanth ;)
I'm a VIP there :)
(I also wrote the reviews to 'N', NERO and some other game I forget. It was a strategy game that I gave 3.7 I think...)
Yootopia
06-11-2006, 22:58
The copyright is still in force usually. The fact it's no longer supported doesn't give you the right to copy it.
Unless of course you have formal permission.
They do have formal permission, and they often get checked by the ESA for violations of copyright.
Wiztopia
07-11-2006, 02:07
If you don't have permission from the vendor/creator, then yes it's theft......
How can you steal something that nobody is making money off of?
The Black Forrest
07-11-2006, 09:56
How can you steal something that nobody is making money off of?
It's called copyright. Just because they aren't selling it, doesn't give you the right to copy it and play it.
Wiztopia
07-11-2006, 10:18
It's called copyright. Just because they aren't selling it, doesn't give you the right to copy it and play it.
Its not going to stop me. I'll play it anyway. Even with copyright if they are not making money off of it then they don't care. Thats why everybody plays SNES and older games on emulators.
The copyright is still in force usually. The fact it's no longer supported doesn't give you the right to copy it.
Unless of course you have formal permission.
They do have formal permission, and they often get checked by the ESA for violations of copyright.
^ Yep.
Its not going to stop me. I'll play it anyway. Even with copyright if they are not making money off of it then they don't care. Thats why everybody plays SNES and older games on emulators.
Also a good point. I was just playing an old Sega CD game called "the Third World War" on an emulator.
While I may not have the express legal right to copy it; how else would I obtain a legitimate copy of this software? I hardly think any developer has a vested interest in releasing old Sega CD games that nobody has ever heard of. In fact, I don't think i've ever seen a Sega CD console, much less owned one. Furthermore, I hardly think anyone is going to prosecute me for doing so.
I've heard that they're selling these things very cheap now. :)
lol. It was hard to tell since there's always someone in these threads who spouts something like that; communist jibe and all. :p
Divine Imaginary Fluff
07-11-2006, 10:35
It's called copyright. Just because they aren't selling it, doesn't give you the right to copy it and play it.The crime is called "copyright violation". Theft is not an accurate term for describing it. Not any more than (half-arsed analogy following) describing non-lethal assault as murder.
As for me, I don't give a damn whether I violate someone's copyright or not, unless serious consequences would follow. I do not cause any kind of harm or loss, and therefore, I have no reason to.
It's called copyright. Just because they aren't selling it, doesn't give you the right to copy it and play it.Depending on the legal system of your country, that may be disputed.
Besides, there's a moral right. Games deserve to be played.
Frisbeeteria
07-11-2006, 17:22
Closed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506067).