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Do not buy an xbox 360!

New Ausha
05-11-2006, 01:31
I figured I didnt want too wait for PS3 (or pay 660$), and the wii seemed a little....childish. So I got an xbox 360. I was glad too read the complete bullshit on the packaging. Xbox live compatible! Hard drive plays xbox games! Right. For the past few weeks, this piece of shit has done nothing but attribute too a rather large tumor in the back of my skull. I have the pro system, which SHOULD allow me too play original xbox games. Lo and behold, it doesnt! Seeking microsfot for help, I had too order the 5 dollar software disc, designed too rectify the problem. It wouldnt read the disc, when it came.....hmmmmm. Now for the fabeled xbox live! Oh wait...My comcast broadband and cable modem wont work! Compatible out of the box my ass....So much so it stumped the xbox live phone operator help desk. They could only suggest buying a new router, and even then, you have too re-configure your isp DCHP settings. Utter riddiculus. PS3 here I come.
Fassigen
05-11-2006, 01:32
You seem unable to spell "to." Either that or your keyboard is broken. Which is it?
Minaris
05-11-2006, 01:32
Go for the Wii. PS3 will blow your funds.
Teh_pantless_hero
05-11-2006, 01:33
Only certain games are backwards compatible. You fail at prior research.
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 01:34
Technology apathy. You have put a blind fate/acceptance into new technology because you have bought into the promises Microsoft has made.
Ultraviolent Radiation
05-11-2006, 01:38
Wait, you bought a Microsoft product and it was crap? Next you'll be saying you jumped in a swimming pool and got wet.

I mean, with Windows I can understand - one needs compatibility, but Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly in the games console industry.

Personally, my last two consoles were Nintendo and my next one will be too. If buying quality is childish, then I'm childish.
Fleckenstein
05-11-2006, 01:43
I figured I didnt want too wait for PS3 (or pay 660$), and the wii seemed a little....childish. So I got an xbox 360. I was glad too read the complete bullshit on the packaging. Xbox live compatible! Hard drive plays xbox games! Right. For the past few weeks, this piece of shit has done nothing but attribute too a rather large tumor in the back of my skull. I have the pro system, which SHOULD allow me too play original xbox games. Lo and behold, it doesnt! Seeking microsfot for help, I had too order the 5 dollar software disc, designed too rectify the problem. It wouldnt read the disc, when it came.....hmmmmm. Now for the fabeled xbox live! Oh wait...My comcast broadband and cable modem wont work! Compatible out of the box my ass....So much so it stumped the xbox live phone operator help desk. They could only suggest buying a new router, and even then, you have too re-configure your isp DCHP settings. Utter riddiculus. PS3 here I come.

So you waste that $660 because you did no research?
Hanon
05-11-2006, 01:46
I guess I'll be buying the childish Wii... ah well. ;)

We have an X box 360, but it's not hooked up to the tv. It's my room mate's boyfriend's and we're keeping it while he's in Iraq. I've never had any desire to have an X Box. We have both a PS2 and a GC. The PS3 is too expensive, so I'll be getting the Wii. (Along with most gaming people I know)
Wilgrove
05-11-2006, 01:49
All Console game system are inferior to PC!
Potarius
05-11-2006, 01:50
I figured I didnt want too wait for PS3 (or pay 660$), and the wii seemed a little....childish. So I got an xbox 360. I was glad too read the complete bullshit on the packaging. Xbox live compatible! Hard drive plays xbox games! Right. For the past few weeks, this piece of shit has done nothing but attribute too a rather large tumor in the back of my skull. I have the pro system, which SHOULD allow me too play original xbox games. Lo and behold, it doesnt! Seeking microsfot for help, I had too order the 5 dollar software disc, designed too rectify the problem. It wouldnt read the disc, when it came.....hmmmmm. Now for the fabeled xbox live! Oh wait...My comcast broadband and cable modem wont work! Compatible out of the box my ass....So much so it stumped the xbox live phone operator help desk. They could only suggest buying a new router, and even then, you have too re-configure your isp DCHP settings. Utter riddiculus. PS3 here I come.

You deserve your fate for not doing research on the system. Whenever Microsoft is involved, you really should investigate. Thoroughly.
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 01:51
All Console game system are inferior to PC!

No... not really. The keyboard and mouse can be really rigid compared with a console controller which was ergonomically designed to fit to the contures of your hand(s). Go Nintendo! w00T!
Ashmoria
05-11-2006, 01:53
I guess I'll be buying the childish Wii... ah well. ;)

We have an X box 360, but it's not hooked up to the tv. It's my room mate's boyfriend's and we're keeping it while he's in Iraq. I've never had any desire to have an X Box. We have both a PS2 and a GC. The PS3 is too expensive, so I'll be getting the Wii. (Along with most gaming people I know)

yea me too but MY question is where do i go to buy it on the 19th? do i plan to go to my local walmart at 5 am when they open and hope they have more than half a dozen or should i go up to albuquerque (75 miles) the night before?

or am i being paranoid and there will be plenty for everyone before christmas?

decisions decisions.
Ultraviolent Radiation
05-11-2006, 01:54
All Console game system are inferior to PC!

No no, that's what I post as a parody of what you say. If you go straight to "incredibly stupid" there's nothing for me to exaggerate.
Alablablania
05-11-2006, 02:03
but, what if i WANT to get an Xbox 360?
Swilatia
05-11-2006, 02:06
All Console game system are inferior to PC!

yeah. you can't mod console games.
Wilgrove
05-11-2006, 02:07
No... not really. The keyboard and mouse can be really rigid compared with a console controller which was ergonomically designed to fit to the contures of your hand(s). Go Nintendo! w00T!

Nintendo is past it's prime.
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 02:08
yeah. you can't mod console games.

You can mod the ROMs on PC though...
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 02:09
Nintendo is past it's prime.

Nintendo pwns, and you know it.
Swilatia
05-11-2006, 02:11
Nintendo is past it's prime.
what prime? nintendo always sucked.
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 02:15
what prime? nintendo always sucked.

You were a deprived child. ;)
Swilatia
05-11-2006, 02:20
You were a deprived child. ;)

no, its just that nintendo sucks.
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 02:21
no, its just that nintendo sucks.

Oh, someone couldn't beat a level in Super Mario World, oh boo hooo!!!! :(
Wilgrove
05-11-2006, 02:23
Oh, someone couldn't beat a level in Super Mario World, oh boo hooo!!!! :(

I just don't like them because they won't let the damn Super Mario Bros. franchise DIE!
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 02:39
I just don't like them because they won't let the damn Super Mario Bros. franchise DIE!

That can't happen, cuz Mario is le awesome! :D
Swilatia
05-11-2006, 02:48
Oh, someone couldn't beat a level in Super Mario World, oh boo hooo!!!! :(

no, i beat that piece of crap? now i wonder what crazy nonsense you will throw at me now?
Snakastan
05-11-2006, 02:49
That can't happen, cuz Mario is le awesome! :D

Mario is le Old and outdated. The Wii is going to suck and it's price reflects it.

PS3 all the way!!!
Slaughterhouse five
05-11-2006, 03:01
funny enough i have had mine for a year and it has worked great.
Kinda Sensible people
05-11-2006, 06:17
I have a 360, and other than the fact that I'm not a regular console gamer, it has worked fine with all the promises it makes.

The PS3 is going to suck, and not be worth the price, and the Wii... Well, if you like having no games worth playing, it should be fine.
Wallonochia
05-11-2006, 06:33
No... not really. The keyboard and mouse can be really rigid compared with a console controller which was ergonomically designed to fit to the contures of your hand(s). Go Nintendo! w00T!

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=game+pad+pc+usb&tag=charttraders-20&index=blended&link_code=qs&page=1
New Xero Seven
05-11-2006, 06:35
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=game+pad+pc+usb&tag=charttraders-20&index=blended&link_code=qs&page=1

Hmm... I wonder which console system they teephed their design off of... :rolleyes:
Wallonochia
05-11-2006, 06:44
Hmm... I wonder which console system they teephed their design off of... :rolleyes:

Who cares as long as they work?

Actually, I'm starting to think that consoles are just under, or even equal to PCs in gaming awesomeness. It's kinda hard to argue that the 360, with XBox Live access, isn't about as good as a PC when it comes to games. However, up until this generation of consoles PCs have been better.
Soviet Haaregrad
05-11-2006, 06:49
No no, that's what I post as a parody of what you say. If you go straight to "incredibly stupid" there's nothing for me to exaggerate.

Uhh, he's right. My PC > any console. :D

That said, I'm looking into getting a used Gamecube, I need my Soul Calibre II fix.

As for controllers, there's thousands of gamepads for PC, including knock-offs of console pads, and new, unique designs. And you can get controlers for specific games, sticks for flight sims, wheels for racing games ect. And the Xbox 360 controller works. Although mine makes anything I play with it crash, but, luckily I kept my PS2 knock-off Logitech gamepad, which works great. :D
New Ausha
05-11-2006, 07:37
Response to all grievances:

I have tried several original xbox games, after installing the so called, miracle software, which should get my system working. Strangely enough, the same message came up, stating my system is not compatible with XBOX GAMES. Thank you who pointed out my misspelling of "too" (or Rather using it incoherently in a sentence) hmmm, your constructive remark is conspicuously absent, relating to the original question... Perhaps, your keyboard is broken. Many people are dissatisfied with the 360's multitude of woes, including overheating and internal disc drive malfunction. I say we begin an xbox 360 boycott league, here on NS!

X.B.L.N.S

Xbox 360 Boycott League of Nation States
Kinda Sensible people
05-11-2006, 07:41
Response to all grievances:

I have tried several original xbox games, after installing the so called, miracle software, which should get my system working. Strangely enough, the same message came up, stating my system is not compatible with XBOX GAMES. Thank you who pointed out my misspelling of "too" (or Rather using it incoherently in a sentence) hmmm, your constructive remark is conspicuously absent, relating to the original question... Perhaps, your keyboard is broken. Many people are dissatisfied with the 360's multitude of woes, including overheating and internal disc drive malfunction. I say we begin an xbox 360 boycott league, here on NS!

X.B.L.N.S

Xbox 360 Boycott League of Nation States

Have you called Microsoft Help Desk?

My 360 works fine for me. I haven't had a single problem with it yet. I think that Sony Fan-boys and girls have been blowing problems way out of proportion (no doubt in hopes of giving Sony's overpriced peice of garbage a chance in the market).

And I think that anti-Microsoft rhetoric is for snobs. :)
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 08:01
Response to all grievances:

I have tried several original xbox games, after installing the so called, miracle software, which should get my system working. Strangely enough, the same message came up, stating my system is not compatible with XBOX GAMES. Thank you who pointed out my misspelling of "too" (or Rather using it incoherently in a sentence) hmmm, your constructive remark is conspicuously absent, relating to the original question... Perhaps, your keyboard is broken. Many people are dissatisfied with the 360's multitude of woes, including overheating and internal disc drive malfunction. I say we begin an xbox 360 boycott league, here on NS!

X.B.L.N.S

Xbox 360 Boycott League of Nation States

Unfortunately, due to hardware differences in the X-box and 360, the games are not compatible. In order to make the original games compatible, they have create an emulator to install on the 360. Since it takes time to create said emulators, there are still many games yet to be backwards compatible. For a full list of games backwards compatible, to date, go here:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

I am the devil's advocate.
Montacanos
05-11-2006, 08:27
I just never buy the first shipments anyway. I'll probably buy my console in about a year. I was one of those who snagged the first shipments of PS2 and instantly regretted it.

And yeah, at least for the time being, the PC is still the strongest and most versatile gaming device. That, and several tests have proven that keyboard and mouse owns console controllers, in FPS at least.
The Potato Factory
05-11-2006, 08:49
I think the gods just have it in for Ausha. I've had no problems with my 360.

Also, not all XBox games work on the 360.
[NS]Cthulhu-Mythos
05-11-2006, 08:56
And I think that anti-Microsoft rhetoric is for snobs. :)
OK, I'm a snob.

I just firmly believe that Microsoft should fail in the Console market so that Rare will go back to Nintendo...
Nintendo also needs to be forbidden from having and/or utilizing STUPID ideas.
(R.O.B., staying with cartridges when discs were obviously superior and thus losing MOST of the 3rd party support, then going with a nonstandard disk size and thus having the REMAINING companies then refuse to make games for their console, and now creating the stupid nunchuck controllers that guarantee that companies will still shun them whenever they make multi-console games...)
[NS]Cthulhu-Mythos
05-11-2006, 09:01
Unfortunately, due to hardware differences in the X-box and 360, the games are not compatible. In order to make the original games compatible, they have create an emulator to install on the 360. Since it takes time to create said emulators, there are still many games yet to be backwards compatible. For a full list of games backwards compatible, to date, go here:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm


"Barbie™ Horse Adventures™ Wild Horse Rescue™"
This was the SECOND game they updated to the 360...
:upyours:
I definitely would love to see Microsoft get NUKED by terrorists just so that their monopoly on Computer Operating Systems will finally end.
The fact that they are striving for a monopoly in the Console market just infuriates me further.
But then, they are too stupid to even be capable of 100% backwards compatibility out of the box.
Typical of them and the best damn reason not to get one.
Kinda Sensible people
05-11-2006, 09:14
Cthulhu-Mythos;11903969']"Barbie™ Horse Adventures™ Wild Horse Rescue™"
This was the SECOND game they updated to the 360...
:upyours:
I definitely would love to see Microsoft get NUKED by terrorists just so that their monopoly on Computer Operating Systems will finally end.
The fact that they are striving for a monopoly in the Console market just infuriates me further.
But then, they are too stupid to even be capable of 100% backwards compatibility out of the box.
Typical of them and the best damn reason not to get one.

I'm close enough to Microsoft that if they got nuked, I'd go with them. I really wish that you could choose a different target. Apple, perhaps? :p
The Potato Factory
05-11-2006, 09:24
Cthulhu-Mythos;11903969']"Barbie™ Horse Adventures™ Wild Horse Rescue™"
This was the SECOND game they updated to the 360...
:upyours:

It was the accidental side-effect of emulating another game.
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 09:24
Cthulhu-Mythos;11903969']"Barbie™ Horse Adventures™ Wild Horse Rescue™"
This was the SECOND game they updated to the 360...
:upyours:
I definitely would love to see Microsoft get NUKED by terrorists just so that their monopoly on Computer Operating Systems will finally end.
The fact that they are striving for a monopoly in the Console market just infuriates me further.
But then, they are too stupid to even be capable of 100% backwards compatibility out of the box.
Typical of them and the best damn reason not to get one.

Well, I'm going to assume here, but I think it used the same engine as a different game, one which actually warranted being scripted, but since the engine was the same writing code for the two, writing Barbie was pretty much nothing at all.

Also, it would have difficult, to nigh impossible, for the 360 to be 100% backwards compatibility as the hardware was so vastly different.

Also, what's the news on the PS3's backwards compatability?
Iztatepopotla
05-11-2006, 09:30
Hmm... I wonder which console system they teephed their design off of... :rolleyes:

Actually MS came up with that joypad design for the PC improving on the general lines of the Sega Saturn.
Cromotar
05-11-2006, 10:11
Get a Wii. Mine's already pre-ordered, with Red Steel (kiddie games my ass). At least you can be sure you'll be able to get one, and it won't break your economy.

As far as PC gaming is concerned, I just can't stand it in the long run. I've almost never had a problem-free experience with a PC game; there always SOMETHING causing problems. Ugh. At least on a console, I know my game will work when I buy it (except Microsofts' :D). Then there's the comfort aspect. Oh, well, to each his own, I guess.
Angry Fruit Salad
05-11-2006, 10:14
Why is your o key sticky? Ew, man.
Cryptic Knight
05-11-2006, 10:29
I guess I'll be buying the childish Wii... ah well. ;)

We have an X box 360, but it's not hooked up to the tv. It's my room mate's boyfriend's and we're keeping it while he's in Iraq. I've never had any desire to have an X Box. We have both a PS2 and a GC. The PS3 is too expensive, so I'll be getting the Wii. (Along with most gaming people I know)

The wii is a massive joke, most people I know are laughing their asses off at it and won't touch it! Don't waste your money on it, buy either an Xbox 360 or a PS3. The xbox which I have is awesome, worked rather well and the graphics blew PS2 away, after I got my xbox I never went back to PS2. The GC was bad and only collects dust for me.

To the OP, don't judge the majority by the minority. Ignore the op, I know a guy who works at gamestop, he says the xbox 360 bugs are delt with.
Cryptic Knight
05-11-2006, 10:31
Have you called Microsoft Help Desk?

My 360 works fine for me. I haven't had a single problem with it yet. I think that Sony Fan-boys and girls have been blowing problems way out of proportion (no doubt in hopes of giving Sony's overpriced peice of garbage a chance in the market).

And I think that anti-Microsoft rhetoric is for snobs. :)


WELL SAID AND BRAVO! I ignore the fanboys and judge for myself. My sister thinks the xbox 360 is awesome after she played it..But I want an xbox 360 and a ps3.
Interesting Specimens
05-11-2006, 11:00
The wii is a massive joke, most people I know are laughing their asses off at it and won't touch it! Don't waste your money on it, buy either an Xbox 360 or a PS3. The xbox which I have is awesome, worked rather well and the graphics blew PS2 away, after I got my xbox I never went back to PS2. The GC was bad and only collects dust for me.

To the OP, don't judge the majority by the minority. Ignore the op, I know a guy who works at gamestop, he says the xbox 360 bugs are delt with.

And most people I know (bar the Sony fanboy) went "cool". Joy of anecdotes eh? What I KNOW is that my local Gamestation is out of preorders and I'm not on that list...
Cryptic Knight
05-11-2006, 11:09
And most people I know (bar the Sony fanboy) went "cool". Joy of anecdotes eh? What I KNOW is that my local Gamestation is out of preorders and I'm not on that list...


Preorders for what?
Harlesburg
05-11-2006, 11:16
Only certain games are backwards compatible. You fail at prior research.
Thats Irrelevant.













*Slaps Pure metal*
Dryks Legacy
05-11-2006, 12:12
Personally, my last two consoles were Nintendo and my next one will be too. If buying quality is childish, then I'm childish.

Poking a 360 causes it to explode, this is fact.

The Wii on the other hand like all Nintendo products, could most likely survive the apocalypse

Like this Gameboy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBeTXPaewMo)


Mario is le Old and outdated. The Wii is going to suck and it's price reflects it.

I just don't like them because they won't let the damn Super Mario Bros. franchise DIE!

Two words. Final. Fantasy (oxymoron). Sequels and remakes are more or less assured to make money, that's why the movie industry is in the toilet.

Cthulhu-Mythos;11903964']OK, I'm a snob.

I just firmly believe that Microsoft should fail in the Console market so that Rare will go back to Nintendo...

But didn't all the good staff quit after they got bought out. I don't want Nintendo to have them back considering the crap they're putting out now-a-days.

Cthulhu-Mythos;11903964']Nintendo also needs to be forbidden from having and/or utilizing STUPID ideas.(R.O.B., staying with cartridges when discs were obviously superior and thus losing MOST of the 3rd party support, then going with a nonstandard disk size and thus having the REMAINING companies then refuse to make games for their console, and now creating the stupid nunchuck controllers that guarantee that companies will still shun them whenever they make multi-console games...)

Unless Nintendos plan works, I doubt that developers will pass up a chance to make money. The Gamecube Optical Disc is not a stupid idea, it greatly reduces piracy and the loading times are almost non-existent.
[NS]Cthulhu-Mythos
05-11-2006, 20:21
I'm close enough to Microsoft that if they got nuked, I'd go with them. I really wish that you could choose a different target. Apple, perhaps? :p
Unlike Microsoft, Apple isn't a threat to world peace, human rights, and democracy...
Katganistan
05-11-2006, 20:38
I figured I didnt want too wait for PS3 (or pay 660$), and the wii seemed a little....childish. So I got an xbox 360. I was glad too read the complete bullshit on the packaging. Xbox live compatible! Hard drive plays xbox games! Right. For the past few weeks, this piece of shit has done nothing but attribute too a rather large tumor in the back of my skull. I have the pro system, which SHOULD allow me too play original xbox games. Lo and behold, it doesnt! Seeking microsfot for help, I had too order the 5 dollar software disc, designed too rectify the problem. It wouldnt read the disc, when it came.....hmmmmm. Now for the fabeled xbox live! Oh wait...My comcast broadband and cable modem wont work! Compatible out of the box my ass....So much so it stumped the xbox live phone operator help desk. They could only suggest buying a new router, and even then, you have too re-configure your isp DCHP settings. Utter riddiculus. PS3 here I come.

Microsoft has been very careful to make clear that while some xbox games are supported, there is NOT complete backward compatibility between the 360 and xbox.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilityfaq.htm

Your comcast connection is not their responsibility, and no reasonable person could expect them to be compatible with every router ever produced anywhere, nor with every modem ever produced anywhere.

Your misunderstanding is not their responsibility.
Bookislvakia
05-11-2006, 20:40
I'm getting a Wii.

Nintendo is a revolutionary company. They aren't afraid to experiment, EVER. When you're producing so many new ideas, a few of them are bound to be bad (virtual boy).

I like them though because they care about innovation. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are just glorified computers at this point. For 660 bucks you could buy a general PC with more utility then either system, and as I pointed out, for about the same price.

Nintendo doesn't CARE about adding DvDs and Mp3s to their stuff, and that turns off some of the people who want all their needs fixed by one miracle purchase.

However, the very image of me standing in my living room, waving that silly wand around and trying to hack apart whatever I'm fighting with the sword the wand controls....that just seems like lots of fun to me. Who cares that Nintendo is generally family-friendly? They still make games that are as violent as anyone would want (resident evil 4).

I'm not some crazy Nintendo fan boy, I'm pointing out what I see. I've got an expensive PC with a beautiful widescreen monitor and surround sound. My roommate owns a PS2, Xbox, and a Gamecube. I like the games on them. But I want my consoles to be that: consoles.

I don't want another machine in my house that plays dvds, surfs the web, and plays music. I've got one. What I want is a unique gaming experience, which used to only be offered by consoles. I don't care if Nintendo is "past its prime." They're leading the industry in innovation, while Sony and Microsoft go about their pissing contest to develop the world's greatest PC with controllers instead of a keyboard.
Daverana
05-11-2006, 20:54
I'm getting a Wii.

Nintendo is a revolutionary company. They aren't afraid to experiment, EVER. When you're producing so many new ideas, a few of them are bound to be bad (virtual boy).

I like them though because they care about innovation.

Ha ha! That's a good one. Nintendo rejects online gaming as a gimmick. Nintendo rejected disk based games as a gimmick. The irony is that Nintendo is all about gimmicks. The DS? Gimmick. (Though they managed to make games that serve that gimmick well.) The Virtual Boy? Gimmick. That thing that let you play gameboy games on your n64? Gimmick. The Wii controller? Gimmick.
Sony and Microsoft make powerful game consoles. Nintendo makes gimmicky toys. Nintendo is the Atari of the 21st century. In 10 years, they'll be making games for other platforms.
Intra-Muros
05-11-2006, 20:59
No... not really. The keyboard and mouse can be really rigid compared with a console controller which was ergonomically designed to fit to the contures of your hand(s). Go Nintendo! w00T!

They do make controllers for the PC, though they may not be as good.
*shrugs*
Swilatia
05-11-2006, 21:23
Ha ha! That's a good one. Nintendo rejects online gaming as a gimmick. Nintendo rejected disk based games as a gimmick. The irony is that Nintendo is all about gimmicks. The DS? Gimmick. (Though they managed to make games that serve that gimmick well.) The Virtual Boy? Gimmick. That thing that let you play gameboy games on your n64? Gimmick. The Wii controller? Gimmick.
Sony and Microsoft make powerful game consoles. Nintendo makes gimmicky toys. Nintendo is the Atari of the 21st century. In 10 years, they'll be making games for other platforms.
yeah, thats likely.
Andaluciae
05-11-2006, 21:26
Eh, my roommates XBox 360 has run perfectly, so, I really can't complain. I'm getting the benefits of the system without the cost.
Kinda Sensible people
05-11-2006, 21:37
Cthulhu-Mythos;11905668']Unlike Microsoft, Apple isn't a threat to world peace, human rights, and democracy...

Neither is Microsoft, buddy.

It just has a bad rep amongst the Apple-Snobs and the Free-Software-Fanbois.
Nevered
05-11-2006, 21:44
I'm getting a Wii.

Nintendo is a revolutionary company. They aren't afraid to experiment, EVER. When you're producing so many new ideas, a few of them are bound to be bad (virtual boy).

I like them though because they care about innovation. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are just glorified computers at this point. For 660 bucks you could buy a general PC with more utility then either system, and as I pointed out, for about the same price.

Nintendo doesn't CARE about adding DvDs and Mp3s to their stuff, and that turns off some of the people who want all their needs fixed by one miracle purchase.

QFT


The 360 is the same machine as the X-Box, but shinier

the Wii is the only console I see here that provides an honest-to-god new gaming experience. You want a shooting game where you press a button to kill them, or do you want to actually point the controller at the screen and shoot them?

Red steel is already getting awesome reviews. why? because it's new



The PS3 is going to flop. big time.

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/crash.html

and look at this video:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/e306-clips-e3-morning-stampede-173469.php
We sent our intrepid videographers Kathleen and Mark to capture the E3 crowd as it streamed through the West Hall's doors first thing this morning. The Playstation 3 booth's on the left and the Nintendo booth on the right; check out where all—and we do mean ALL—the foot traffic's going
Rainbowwws
05-11-2006, 21:46
I want to call Nintendo the MacIntosh of Consule games.
Bookislvakia
05-11-2006, 21:46
Ha ha! That's a good one. Nintendo rejects online gaming as a gimmick. Nintendo rejected disk based games as a gimmick. The irony is that Nintendo is all about gimmicks. The DS? Gimmick. (Though they managed to make games that serve that gimmick well.) The Virtual Boy? Gimmick. That thing that let you play gameboy games on your n64? Gimmick. The Wii controller? Gimmick.
Sony and Microsoft make powerful game consoles. Nintendo makes gimmicky toys. Nintendo is the Atari of the 21st century. In 10 years, they'll be making games for other platforms.

Nintendo has already buried more gaming and console companies than Sony and Xbox combined. They'll be around for quite some time.

We have to take a step back and look at Nintendo, do they really have the same target audience as Sony and Microsoft anyway? I'd say not.

Either way, their "gimmicks" are fun and seem to be keeping audiences entertained. They're not marketing to power gamers, nor are they even half-way attempting to make something to compete with Xbox and Playstation.

Maybe it's all some silly gimmick. Whatever. I'll measure the soundness of my purchase against how much fun I have.

Plus I can download old nintendo games and have a go. Dig Dug II? Yes please!
Couch Cowboy
05-11-2006, 22:10
Cthulhu-Mythos;11903969']"Barbie™ Horse Adventures™ Wild Horse Rescue™"

If I remember right, the reason Xbox 360 didn't have all game retro compatible was because they switched there video card supplier (from Nvidia for xbox, to ATI for 360) and therefore had to paid royalties to the old supplier for using there technology.

We can assume to more popular a game was, the higher the royalties where.

Therefore, Xbox made 300 shitty-never-played-game retro compatible so they could boast about having lot of game in there marketing ads. And then made few hits also retro compatible so hard-core Halo fan wont die from self-hangry-combustion.
Umajawe
05-11-2006, 23:12
If any1 thinks that Nintendo is childish, play the Resident Evil series.

The PS3 looks cool, but I think it could do without the blue ray drive. Other form of that are coming out that are far cheaper.

The 360 looks awesome, but there are only a few games that I really want for it.

Over all I think the PC is the best. Mainly because I am a WoW addict.
Montacanos
05-11-2006, 23:22
I want to call Nintendo the MacIntosh of Consule games.

It struck me that way too. Just like a Mac, its newish and reliabe, but in the end it just wont get you to where you want to go.
Gravlen
05-11-2006, 23:28
Eh, my roommates XBox 360 has run perfectly, so, I really can't complain. I'm getting the benefits of the system without the cost.

Congrats on 10,000 posts :)
Mooseica
05-11-2006, 23:56
Just like the rest, my 360 runs fine, and I wouldn't give it up ever. You just need to sort your shit out lol.

Don't bother with the PS3. Just don't. I can't be bothered to list the reasons why. If you want them just... Google it or summat.

Out of interest does anyone else run into the same dilemma as me? I'm a diehard Mac-addict, and yet will defend the Xbox to the death. Anyone else see the problem? How can I love two masters?

Oh and the Wii looks awesome and I would totally buy it if I could afford it. As things stand I'll just have to go round my friend's and use hers.
Dryks Legacy
06-11-2006, 09:17
Nintendo doesn't CARE about adding DvDs and Mp3s to their stuff, and that turns off some of the people who want all their needs fixed by one miracle purchase

Techincally the Wii can play MP3s, but only during slideshows as far as I know.

Plus I can download old nintendo games and have a go. Dig Dug II? Yes please!

You forgot Sega Mega Drive/Genesis, Turbografx-16, Commodore 64 and MSX

Nintendo is the Atari of the 21st century. In 10 years, they'll be making games for other platforms.

Oh Really? (http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/742/742087p1.html)

Nintendo fans can pour a tiny glass of sake today to celebrate the company's reported 54.4 billion yen (approx. $460 million US) profit for the first half of the fiscal year. Last year, in the same period Nintendo earned 36.63 billion yen (approx. $309 US).
[NS]Cthulhu-Mythos
10-12-2006, 02:27
Neither is Microsoft, buddy.

It just has a bad rep amongst the Apple-Snobs and the Free-Software-Fanbois.
I happen to be neither.
I just happen to know that Bill Gates is the Anti-Christ as proven by the fact that he's not being tortured to death.
Hamilay
10-12-2006, 02:31
I figured I didnt want too wait for PS3 (or pay 660$), and the wii seemed a little....childish. So I got an xbox 360. I was glad too read the complete bullshit on the packaging. Xbox live compatible! Hard drive plays xbox games! Right. For the past few weeks, this piece of shit has done nothing but attribute too a rather large tumor in the back of my skull. I have the pro system, which SHOULD allow me too play original xbox games. Lo and behold, it doesnt! Seeking microsfot for help, I had too order the 5 dollar software disc, designed too rectify the problem. It wouldnt read the disc, when it came.....hmmmmm. Now for the fabeled xbox live! Oh wait...My comcast broadband and cable modem wont work! Compatible out of the box my ass....So much so it stumped the xbox live phone operator help desk. They could only suggest buying a new router, and even then, you have too re-configure your isp DCHP settings. Utter riddiculus. PS3 here I come.
Just burn the patch from the site to your own disc. I did it and it worked fine, although for some reason KOTOR2 is really laggy. I don't care for Live, I don't see why I should have to pay to play online.
UpwardThrust
10-12-2006, 02:33
Cthulhu-Mythos;11903969']"Barbie™ Horse Adventures™ Wild Horse Rescue™"
This was the SECOND game they updated to the 360...
:upyours:
I definitely would love to see Microsoft get NUKED by terrorists just so that their monopoly on Computer Operating Systems will finally end.
The fact that they are striving for a monopoly in the Console market just infuriates me further.
But then, they are too stupid to even be capable of 100% backwards compatibility out of the box.
Typical of them and the best damn reason not to get one.

Who would you have replace them that could actually handle the market they pander to?

I mean I am a gigantic *nix fan myself but right now there is no one else that could do what they are doing with their current design philosophies at least not right away
Lacadaemon
10-12-2006, 02:37
I have a xbox 360. It seems to work fine for me. Mind you I don't have it hooked up to that stupid live service, nor do I try and play my old xbox games on it.

I wouldn't honestly advocate going out and dropping the money on it. But it's alright for what it is.
Hustlertwo
10-12-2006, 03:04
I figure I'll get a 360 first, since it will have a lot of great games that you know the Wii can't handle, like Mass Effect and GTA 4, without being as incredibly expensive as the PS3. Might get a Wii after that, if the software lineup improves and the system proves not to be too gimmicky. Certainly the launch titles do not inspire confidence, with the best game that isn't a port apparently being a Rayman title. But there is always Smash....
Fartsniffage
10-12-2006, 03:08
My friend has a 360 and hasnt had a seconds problem with it. Everything has worked perfectly first time. I guess the OP just got a dodgy unit.
Pyotr
10-12-2006, 03:08
I would much rather have Nintendo's "Gimmick" then the tired gameplay of the 360 or the PS3. The gameplay for both of them has been the same old crap again and again and again and again and again, the only thing different is that they have better graphics, which I could care jack-shit less about.
1010102
10-12-2006, 03:22
All Console game system are inferior to PC!

other than the fact that you have to upgrade every 2 or 3 months.
Pyotr
10-12-2006, 03:25
other than the fact that you have to upgrade every 2 or 3 months.

What? I've played on the same comp. for nigh 3 years and never had to upgrade, once.
New Xero Seven
10-12-2006, 03:27
other than the fact that you have to upgrade every 2 or 3 months.

Hahaha. Just 2 or 3?
Dood, I've had my PC for 4 years, and it still works fine.
Besides from an upgrade for the graphics card, my PC functions at 100%
And considernig how technology is 10 years obsolete when it first comes out into the market...
My computer uses technology from 14 years ago. Thats friggen 1992! =P
The Only Penguin
10-12-2006, 03:41
360 :sniper: die, die, die

Man what kind of computer works 4 years later I want to buy that brand. Please do tell.
Dwarfstein
10-12-2006, 04:32
you want everyone not to buy one because yours was faulty? Some are bound to be faulty, so really it increases the chances that everyone else will get a working one.
GreaterPacificNations
10-12-2006, 04:50
yeah. you can't mod console games.
No, n00bs can't mod console games.
Sel Appa
10-12-2006, 06:07
You get what you deserve for not buying a Wii and calling it childish.
Seangoli
10-12-2006, 06:32
Response to all grievances:

I have tried several original xbox games, after installing the so called, miracle software, which should get my system working. Strangely enough, the same message came up, stating my system is not compatible with XBOX GAMES. Thank you who pointed out my misspelling of "too" (or Rather using it incoherently in a sentence) hmmm, your constructive remark is conspicuously absent, relating to the original question... Perhaps, your keyboard is broken. Many people are dissatisfied with the 360's multitude of woes, including overheating and internal disc drive malfunction. I say we begin an xbox 360 boycott league, here on NS!

X.B.L.N.S

Xbox 360 Boycott League of Nation States

You failed research. Which is what you should always do before buying anything, especially slapping $400 down. Only certain games are compatible right now, and coding needs to be done. They are SLOWLY(Painfully, really) adding new games to the list, but it is technically backwards compatible. Might I note, as well, if you have X-box live, you get the updates for free.
Saint-Newly
10-12-2006, 06:36
360 :sniper: die, die, die

Man what kind of computer works 4 years later I want to buy that brand. Please do tell.

Is there ever a legitimate use for that emoticon?
Darknovae
10-12-2006, 07:25
I figured I didnt want too wait for PS3 (or pay 660$), and the wii seemed a little....childish. So I got an xbox 360. I was glad too read the complete bullshit on the packaging. Xbox live compatible! Hard drive plays xbox games! Right. For the past few weeks, this piece of shit has done nothing but attribute too a rather large tumor in the back of my skull. I have the pro system, which SHOULD allow me too play original xbox games. Lo and behold, it doesnt! Seeking microsfot for help, I had too order the 5 dollar software disc, designed too rectify the problem. It wouldnt read the disc, when it came.....hmmmmm. Now for the fabeled xbox live! Oh wait...My comcast broadband and cable modem wont work! Compatible out of the box my ass....So much so it stumped the xbox live phone operator help desk. They could only suggest buying a new router, and even then, you have too re-configure your isp DCHP settings. Utter riddiculus. PS3 here I come.

So Xbox 360 sucks eh?

http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/index.html?view=1161425675941.jpg
Dwarfstein
10-12-2006, 09:37
Is there ever a legitimate use for that emoticon?

He's got the gun pointed at the thing he wants to kill, and the words die die die on the other side. I don't think Iv'e ever seen one used more legitimately.
Allanea
10-12-2006, 09:55
I mean, with Windows I can understand - one needs compatibility, but Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly in the games console industry.




Windows XP is not crap. It's a very reliable system)

(Allanea, the guy who uses Windows, Linspire, and Knoppix)
Harlesburg
10-12-2006, 10:00
Pound for Pound the PSX and PS2 are better anyways.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-12-2006, 10:08
I figure I'll get a 360 first, since it will have a lot of great games that you know the Wii can't handle, like Mass Effect and GTA 4, without being as incredibly expensive as the PS3. Might get a Wii after that, if the software lineup improves and the system proves not to be too gimmicky. Certainly the launch titles do not inspire confidence, with the best game that isn't a port apparently being a Rayman title. But there is always Smash....

What about Red Steel?

PS: My $1000CAD computer from 2 years ago still plays every game on the market.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-12-2006, 10:09
Is there ever a legitimate use for that emoticon?

Is there ever not a legitmate use for that emoticon?

:sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:
:gundge:
Dryks Legacy
10-12-2006, 11:08
What about Red Steel?

PS: My $1000CAD computer from 2 years ago still plays every game on the market.

Red Steel isn't the best non-port game.
Pure Metal
10-12-2006, 11:33
I figured I didnt want too wait for PS3 (or pay 660$), and the wii seemed a little....childish. So I got an xbox 360. I was glad too read the complete bullshit on the packaging. Xbox live compatible! Hard drive plays xbox games! Right. For the past few weeks, this piece of shit has done nothing but attribute too a rather large tumor in the back of my skull. I have the pro system, which SHOULD allow me too play original xbox games. Lo and behold, it doesnt! Seeking microsfot for help, I had too order the 5 dollar software disc, designed too rectify the problem. It wouldnt read the disc, when it came.....hmmmmm. Now for the fabeled xbox live! Oh wait...My comcast broadband and cable modem wont work! Compatible out of the box my ass....So much so it stumped the xbox live phone operator help desk. They could only suggest buying a new router, and even then, you have too re-configure your isp DCHP settings. Utter riddiculus. PS3 here I come.

1my xbox360 worked fine for me. very happy with it :)

maybe its just you?



edit: http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/backwardcompatabilityqa.htm :)
Der Teutoniker
10-12-2006, 12:06
Comically, for being the 'best ever' the PS3 is having a lot of problems, the 360 had a lot of problems, and the Wii (which I own... twleve hours in freezing Nov. weather was still worth it hardcore) is unbelievable, I especially like playing Zelda (which is of course only for kids, especially hacking goblin-y creatures to death with my sword, shooting them in the face with my bow, or biting at their Juggular as a wolf), and the other games for the Wii are also really childish, such as Call of Duty 3, Red Steel, or Splinter Cell:Double Agent, another preschool game will release on the Wii, Medal of Honour:Airborne Assault... hmmm, I guess blowing peoples heads off (or, with Red Steel, the added ability to 'slice' rather than 'blow') is just too childish (or is it because the Gamecube wasn't very popular that the Wii is childish?)

Of course I am exaggerating the violence of said games, though my point remains that the Wii is in no way more childish than either of the other systems, and knowing Nintendo's history will more than likely have the lowest return rate do to mechanical, or software suckage

it is cheap because it is a 'bare bones' game machine, they did not make the graphics capabilities the best, but it IS the cheapest (and still very definitively next-gen), it does not include the ability ot play standard music CD's or read DVD discs, a bad move? who does not own the capabilities to play either of these at this point that they would need the Wii for either purpose?

gimmicky... wow, the Wiimote, and nunchuk is one of the most beautiful pairings ever... EVER, I can get so comfortable not needing to have my hands clutched in the same rigid spot for hours (though I can hold my arms in a way that would make the Wiimote and nunchuck as close together as a 'standard' console controller would be)

Also, out of the box flawless full backwards compatability with all 532 GC games (even the childish ones, like the Princes of Persia series, or you know Resident Evil 4)

yeah... the Wii really sucks, and Nintendo with it for every reason that critics can never seem to actually name....
Pure Metal
10-12-2006, 12:37
Response to all grievances:

I have tried several original xbox games, after installing the so called, miracle software, which should get my system working. Strangely enough, the same message came up, stating my system is not compatible with XBOX GAMES. Thank you who pointed out my misspelling of "too" (or Rather using it incoherently in a sentence) hmmm, your constructive remark is conspicuously absent, relating to the original question... Perhaps, your keyboard is broken. Many people are dissatisfied with the 360's multitude of woes, including overheating and internal disc drive malfunction. I say we begin an xbox 360 boycott league, here on NS!

X.B.L.N.S

Xbox 360 Boycott League of Nation States

why did you buy a new console to play old games?
try getting some new games, maybe :)
SHAOLIN9
10-12-2006, 17:38
360 :sniper: die, die, die

Man what kind of computer works 4 years later I want to buy that brand. Please do tell.

nOOb!

probably Nintendo for the reliability.

Is there ever a legitimate use for that emoticon?

NO

Pound for Pound the PSX and PS2 are better anyways.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha /dies laughing

Is there ever not a legitmate use for that emoticon?

:sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:
:gundge:

*lolz* EVERY use is illegitamate

1my xbox360 worked fine for me. very happy with it :)

maybe its just you?

To be fair there was a lot of problems with the first few batches, I'm currently on my 3rd console which is working great! The first one only lasted 4 days:(. But my sister had a slimline PS2 recently that only lasted 4hrs!!!! Initial console stock is always full of bugs, and anything made/reconditioned by Sony! :p

Also on the backwards compatability front..... from the moment I put 360 games into my console I lost all urge to play any of my original xbox games (except the halo's cos I wanna complete them before no.3 comes out).
Harlesburg
11-12-2006, 11:08
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha /dies laughing

Oh you'll die, but laughing?
I doubt it!
They bashed all competition, equal to the power of the Megadrive.
Dawn Patrol
11-12-2006, 11:30
Personally, my last two consoles were Nintendo and my next one will be too. If buying quality is childish, then I'm childish.

I agree, people need to grow up and realize that innovation does not equal childishness. People like this run around buying garbage like Xbox's and Sony crap and wonder why they don't do anything they are supposed to do, and have endless tech problems. Who else wonders if these companies actually hate their customers?