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Who's the best NS troll?

Sheni
04-11-2006, 22:59
Before I put up the poll, lemme make sure I'm not missing anyone:
The UN ambassadorship
Means to an End
Jesussaves
Conscience and truth (in case you don't remember him, he pretended to believe a strawman example of the leftist position in any topic that would apply to)
Is that it, or are there more?

EDIT: Forgot RealAmerica. Anyone else?
EDIT2: Apparently I forgot some guy named Whittier.
EDIT3: Forgot three named Japaica, the State of Georgia, and MKULTRA. I'll add Mittani to the list if nobody else posts soon.
EDIT4:Ok, that's 10. Poll coming.
Minaris
04-11-2006, 23:00
RealAmerica aka B.R.A.
MeansToAnEnd
04-11-2006, 23:13
You didn't forget somebody, but you added someone who isn't a troll, namely, me. However, I would say that UNA was the best troll.
Yootopia
04-11-2006, 23:15
You didn't forget somebody, but you added someone who isn't a troll, namely, me. However, I would say that UNA was the best troll.
No, you're a troll.

But the best one is Whittier---. By miles.
Ifreann
04-11-2006, 23:15
TUNA had skillz, but I wasn't around for Jesussaves. Also, this thread needs a poll.
Sheni
04-11-2006, 23:16
You didn't forget somebody, but you added someone who isn't a troll, namely, me. However, I would say that UNA was the best troll.

You act like a troll, you're on the list.
BTW, if you're not a troll, how do you know who UNA is, considering you seem to have joined in september?

With that out of the way, does anyone think I should count New Mittani as a troll?
Or is he just far right-wing?
Call to power
04-11-2006, 23:19
I sometimes ponder whither I’m a troll only without the bridge…or the craving for the spleens of young children…yes…
MeansToAnEnd
04-11-2006, 23:19
You act like a troll, you're on the list.
BTW, if you're not a troll, how do you know who UNA is, considering you seem to have joined in september?

I have already answered that question before. In short, my prior account, which I have held since early 2004, was banned. I took a one year break from NSG, and I came back in September of 2006.
Teh_pantless_hero
04-11-2006, 23:19
MeansToAnEnd/Eutrusca
Kyronea
04-11-2006, 23:23
MeansToAnEnd is working out nicely. So were his predecessors, RealAmerica and The State of Georgia.

MKULTRA was always fun. So was Japaica. My favorite is Un Ambassadorship though.
Desperate Measures
04-11-2006, 23:26
How about Allers? The most innocent troll. I think. And tons of fun.
Sheni
04-11-2006, 23:27
I have already answered that question before. In short, my prior account, which I have held since early 2004, was banned. I took a one year break from NSG, and I came back in September of 2006.

Just wondering, what was that account named?
MeansToAnEnd
04-11-2006, 23:29
Just wondering, what was that account named?

I'm not going to say because I espoused some puerile and rather embarrassing ideas under that sobriquet, and I know that many users will use that information to discredit me.
Sheni
04-11-2006, 23:32
I'm not going to say because I espoused some puerile and rather embarrassing ideas under that sobriquet, and I know that many users will use that information to discredit me.

So you are a troll then.
EDIT: Just a guess, you're not UNA, are you?
Desperate Measures
04-11-2006, 23:33
I'm not going to say because I espoused some puerile and rather embarrassing ideas under that sobriquet, and I know that many users will use that information to discredit me.

I sense a pattern will develop.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
04-11-2006, 23:33
The UN ambassadorship
He was "The UN Abassadorship", no m. This is important both because it showed his utter disgust for the letter M (and, by extension, all that 'Merica stands for), and because it made his name an anagram of the phrase "Bosh Anus Parade Hits", which, I believe, is the perfect summing up of his political philosophy.
Gorias
04-11-2006, 23:34
So you are a troll then.
EDIT: Just a guess, you're not UNA, are you?

isnt this thread very trolling? your trying to single out one person out of a group of people, in order to insult them. thats just like school yard bullying. i wish people on this site would just grow up.
MeansToAnEnd
04-11-2006, 23:34
So you are a troll then.

No, I'm not. Just because I have held some rather ridiculous positions in the past does not make me a troll, nor does attempting to cover up my previous stances. I'll give you a hint, though: my former name started with "Be."
Sheni
04-11-2006, 23:36
isnt this thread very trolling? your trying to single out one person out of a group of people, in order to insult them. thats just like school yard bullying. i wish people on this site would just grow up.

Damn it, I forgot about you.
Wish I could edit polls, I'd take out C&T and add you.
HC Eredivisie
04-11-2006, 23:37
No, I'm not. Just because I have held some rather ridiculous positions in the past does not make me a troll, nor does attempting to cover up my previous stances. I'll give you a hint, though: my former name started with "Be."

Beeker?
Kyronea
04-11-2006, 23:38
He was "The UN Abassadorship", no m. This is important both because it showed his utter disgust for the letter M (and, by extension, all that 'Merica stands for), and because it made his name an anagram of the phrase "Bosh Anus Parade Hits", which, I believe, is the perfect summing up of his political philosophy.
...that's ridiculous, but completely within your purview.

Out of curiosity, why are you the only user I've ever seen that has "N/A" for their post count?

MTAE: Damn. And I was going to guess Roach Busters.
LazyOtaku
04-11-2006, 23:39
No, you're a troll.

But the best one is Whittier---. By miles.

Was Whittier really a troll? I mean that guy really believed what he said.
MeansToAnEnd
04-11-2006, 23:40
Beeker?

Replying to that in either the positive or the negative would go against my statement that I would not reveal my prior name, now wouldn't it?
HC Eredivisie
04-11-2006, 23:41
Replying to that in either the positive or the negative would go against my statement that I would not reveal my prior name, now wouldn't it?
You may TM me;)
Keruvalia
04-11-2006, 23:42
And not a mod on the list ... those mods are always trolling around, banning people, warning people, making decisions .... *shakes fist*
Drunk commies deleted
04-11-2006, 23:42
Beeker?

Can't be Beeker. Him and his pal Bunsen got locked up. It was on CNN.

http://i11.tinypic.com/316oiyo.jpg
CanuckHeaven
04-11-2006, 23:43
For some reason, I can see this thread getting shut down. :eek:
Ifreann
04-11-2006, 23:44
Can't be Beeker. Him and his pal Bunsen got locked up. It was on CNN.

http://i11.tinypic.com/316oiyo.jpg

http://www.unreal-forum.de/images/smilies/ugly/uglyhammer2.gif
Free shepmagans
04-11-2006, 23:44
Of the ones up there, conscience and truth was the only one I was around for (That actually got me riled up that is)
Gorias
04-11-2006, 23:44
Damn it, I forgot about you.
Wish I could edit polls, I'd take out C&T and add you.

how am i a troll? the only i repeated post is, that i rather dislike the way some people try to have discusions on this site. twisting words, pretending one said something they didnt, complaining about grammar, also doesnt this thread also count as flaming? it is in a way.
Sheni
04-11-2006, 23:44
And not a mod on the list ... those mods are always trolling around, banning people, warning people, making decisions .... *shakes fist*

For some reason, I can see this thread getting shut down. :eek:

I think the second quote answers the first nicely.
Gorias
04-11-2006, 23:46
And not a mod on the list ... those mods are always trolling around, banning people, warning people, making decisions .... *shakes fist*

aargh! they annoy me! if a thread is stupid people wont post on it and it dies. but sometimes a thread will be going a few pages, then come along and just stop the discusion cause they dont like it. i hate it when people interfere with freedom of speech.
Sheni
04-11-2006, 23:48
how am i a troll? the only i repeated post is, that i rather dislike the way some people try to have discusions on this site. twisting words, pretending one said something they didnt, complaining about grammar, also doesnt this thread also count as flaming? it is in a way.

You have no sense of grammer and you're very far right.
And I don't think anyone will care, considering that of the only two people who can possibly complain about being included on there, one hasn't and one is so widely acknowledged as a troll that he put up a topic attempting to disprove it.
Kinda Sensible people
04-11-2006, 23:50
Jesussaves.

The other ones weren't as funny.

"You don't even know how to spell parrot!"

"Jesus Dyed for your sins!"
Kyronea
04-11-2006, 23:53
[QUOTE=Kinda Sensible people;11902393

"Jesus Dyed for your sins!"[/QUOTE]

He dyed his hair?
Kinda Sensible people
05-11-2006, 00:00
He dyed his hair?

Yep!

That was what we decided, eventually, in that thread.
M3rcenaries
05-11-2006, 00:12
Im going with UNA because out of the listed, he was the one I came into most frequent contact with.
Johnny B Goode
05-11-2006, 00:17
Neocon pride's a troll. Definitely.

(He once said Rush Limbaugh was his hero. Roflmao)
Swilatia
05-11-2006, 00:18
um... it was "the un abassadorship", not "the un ambassadorship"
Al-aqsa martyrs
05-11-2006, 00:34
I'm going to go with C &T
Hamilay
05-11-2006, 00:36
*is angry at the lack of NN*
Allers isn't a troll, really, just a spammer.
Soviestan
05-11-2006, 00:37
*is angry at the lack of NN*
Allers isn't a troll, really, just a spammer.

Ny Norland wasnt a troll. I did rather like that UNA character though. Jesussaves is the best at any rate (IMO)
Ifreann
05-11-2006, 00:38
*is angry at the lack of NN*
Allers isn't a troll, really, just a spammer.

Damn, I didn't notice Allers was there. Allers definitely wasn't a troll. Big time spammer, but not a troll.
Desperate Measures
05-11-2006, 00:42
Damn, I didn't notice Allers was there. Allers definitely wasn't a troll. Big time spammer, but not a troll.

But I like the idea of an innocent troll... even if it turns out not to be true. Innocent Spammer doesn't have the same ring to it.
Potarius
05-11-2006, 00:46
MeansToAnEnd easily surpasses Jesussaves. Easily.
Andaras Prime
05-11-2006, 00:49
I rekon MeansToAnEnd's islamophobic bigoted racism probably wins over.
Gorias
05-11-2006, 00:57
no i broke the dam!
The UN abassadorship
05-11-2006, 00:57
I'm not a troll. Its just that some people don't like people defending freedom. I shouldn't even be on that poll.
Zarakon
05-11-2006, 00:57
Add Neoconpride. He's an idiot.
Potarius
05-11-2006, 00:58
He's an idiot.

So says he who has the sniper smiley in his signature...
Swilatia
05-11-2006, 01:03
I'm not a troll. Its just that some people don't like people defending freedom. I shouldn't even be on that poll.
Yes you are a troll.
Congo--Kinshasa
05-11-2006, 01:50
From what I've heard, Europaland.
Ultraviolent Radiation
05-11-2006, 01:56
I'd like to remind everyone that if you click on the names of posters you will be taken to a screen where you can add them to your "ignore list" and their posts will be replaced with a message that says "This user is on your Ignore List."
MeansToAnEnd
05-11-2006, 02:17
I rekon MeansToAnEnd's islamophobic bigoted racism probably wins over.

I am "Islamophobic" because it says in the Koran that infidels need to be killed, and many extremist Muslims take that quite seriously. I do not discriminate against Muslims, though. I am actually friends with a Muslim. Also, I am neither bigoted nor racist.
The Black Forrest
05-11-2006, 02:21
Nobody remembers Hannibal Smith/Johnny Wadd/ others
Free Soviets
05-11-2006, 02:24
me
Naturality
05-11-2006, 02:27
Nobody remembers Hannibal Smith/Johnny Wadd/ others


Hahaha Johnny Wadd .. he made me laugh. And I never thought of Whittier as a troll.
Bodies Without Organs
05-11-2006, 03:18
Beeker?

If it is Beeker then he is slipping badly in the inventiveness stakes.
Bodies Without Organs
05-11-2006, 03:19
I'm not a troll. Its just that some people don't like people defending freedom. I shouldn't even be on that poll.

What are you, some kind of liberal?
Vittos the City Sacker
05-11-2006, 03:21
I vote Sheni, he/she is obviously a very talented troll.
Gorias
05-11-2006, 03:21
I vote Sheni, he/she is obviously a very talented troll.

backed.
Bitchkitten
05-11-2006, 03:23
Hahaha Johnny Wadd .. he made me laugh. And I never thought of Whittier as a troll.Wadd was to only person ever to make my ignore list. He made me cringe.
JesusSaves was the best troll. He made me laugh.
Sheni
05-11-2006, 03:39
I vote Sheni, he/she is obviously a very talented troll.

backed.

Believe it or not, every troll here was agreed to by other NSers.
So your beef is with NS in general, not this thread.
Besides, for some of these people it's a compliment.
Minaris
05-11-2006, 03:45
No, I'm not. Just because I have held some rather ridiculous positions in the past does not make me a troll, nor does attempting to cover up my previous stances. I'll give you a hint, though: my former name started with "Be."

MTAE:
In Soviet Russia, forums troll YOU!
Vittos the City Sacker
05-11-2006, 04:41
Believe it or not, every troll here was agreed to by other NSers.
So your beef is with NS in general, not this thread.
Besides, for some of these people it's a compliment.

And I think nearly everyone can agree that starting a thread asking people to vote on a troll and then nominating a bunch of posters is very trollish in itself.
Naturality
05-11-2006, 04:44
Really. I don't consider any of these trolls. What I consider a troll is someone who comes in leaving sarcastic/derogetory remarks, usually one liners, attacking the OP, the thread title or someones post without even replying to the subject(Johnny Wadd was a troll). Fass was great at that. Not calling him a troll, but he trolled sometimes by my definition. People that post just foul mouthed crap or pornlinks and pics.. are spammers I guess? I know it doesn't happen here.. but you know what I mean.
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 05:36
I'm not a troll. Its just that some people don't like people defending freedom. I shouldn't even be on that poll.

Jesus Christ, it lives! Man, haven't seen you in quite a time.

And I voted for ya man. You can always count on my vote when it counts.
Vegan Nuts
05-11-2006, 05:38
You didn't forget somebody, but you added someone who isn't a troll, namely, me. However, I would say that UNA was the best troll.

aw - america is the land of oppurtunity - anybody can be a troll! I voted for you:D
CanuckHeaven
05-11-2006, 05:41
I am "Islamophobic" because it says in the Koran that infidels need to be killed, and many extremist Muslims take that quite seriously. I do not discriminate against Muslims, though. I am actually friends with a Muslim. Also, I am neither bigoted nor racist.
Huh?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11750305&postcount=146

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11751023&postcount=247

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11750345&postcount=161

Yup, no bigotry, intolerance, or discrimination there. :rolleyes:
MeansToAnEnd
05-11-2006, 05:45
Yup, no bigotry, intolerance, or discrimination there. :rolleyes:

Indeed. It is only a harsh anti-terrorism measure; nothing more. It's not my fault that many Middle Eastern countries sponsor terrorism.
Killinginthename
05-11-2006, 05:48
I'm not going to say because I espoused some puerile and rather embarrassing ideas under that sobriquet, and I know that many users will use that information to discredit me.
So you are not embarrassed by your "Native Americans deserved to be slaughtered because they did not manage their resources effectively" posts or your "Slavery should be brought back for the poor" thread?

I am "Islamophobic" because it says in the Koran that infidels need to be killed, and many extremist Muslims take that quite seriously. I do not discriminate against Muslims, though. I am actually friends with a Muslim. Also, I am neither bigoted nor racist.

You have espoused your belief that we should kill innocent people along with terrorists to "teach them a lesson" and you do not belive this to be racist or bigoted?
MeansToAnEnd
05-11-2006, 05:49
So you are not embarrassed by your "Native Americans deserved to be slaughtered because they did not manage their resources effectively" posts or your "Slavery should be brought back for the poor" thread? You have espoused your belief that we should kill innocent people along with terrorists to "teach them a lesson" and you do not belive this to be racist or bigoted?

Correct on both counts.
CanuckHeaven
05-11-2006, 05:50
Indeed. It is only a harsh anti-terrorism measure; nothing more. It's not my fault that many Middle Eastern countries sponsor terrorism.
I guess it is also not your fault that you were born with an over inflated opinion of your importance to the world? :p
Desperate Measures
05-11-2006, 05:53
Correct on both counts.

I really want to know how you are able to live with that... I mean, you hate terrorists because you say that they kill indiscriminately based on a set of beliefs but then say that you would nuke entire countries because they harbor terrorists, taking all the civilians with them. How do you not see that the mindset between you and the people you say that you despise are one and the same?
MeansToAnEnd
05-11-2006, 05:59
How do you not see that the mindset between you and the people you say that you despise are one and the same?

It makes all the difference in the world. What Germany did to Poland, France, etc., was horrible. However, the British, Americans, Soviets, etc., did the same exact thing to Germany. Was there any difference between the gross destruction perpetrated by both sides? Of course. To put it simply, the Nazis "started it." Similarly, the terrorists "started it." That gives us the justification to use any means possible to end it, just like the Allies did in WWII. We did not ask for aggression, but we received it. We will not show mercy or compunction in how we strike back because we are completely in the right.
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 05:59
I really want to know how you are able to live with that... I mean, you hate terrorists because you say that they kill indiscriminately based on a set of beliefs but then say that you would nuke entire countries because they harbor terrorists, taking all the civilians with them. How do you not see that the mindset between you and the people you say that you despise are one and the same?

Double-speak. It's doubleplusgood.
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 06:01
It makes all the difference in the world. What Germany did to Poland, France, etc., was horrible. However, the British, Americans, Soviets, etc., did the same exact thing to Germany. Was there any difference between the gross destruction perpetrated by both sides? Of course. To put it simply, the Nazis "started it." Similarly, the terrorists "started it." That gives us the justification to use any means possible to end it, just like the Allies did in WWII. We did not ask for aggression, but we received it. We will not show mercy or compunction in how we strike back because we are completely in the right.

Ah, technically it was the Japanese who started it with America.

However, by that count, the west started the entire problem. None of the current problems would exist today had it not been for western influences in the region. Once again, your argument fails by your own logic.
Andaluciae
05-11-2006, 06:03
The Red Arrow/MKULTRA/Whatever his name was after that.
Desperate Measures
05-11-2006, 06:04
It makes all the difference in the world. What Germany did to Poland, France, etc., was horrible. However, the British, Americans, Soviets, etc., did the same exact thing to Germany. Was there any difference between the gross destruction perpetrated by both sides? Of course. To put it simply, the Nazis "started it." Similarly, the terrorists "started it." That gives us the justification to use any means possible to end it, just like the Allies did in WWII. We did not ask for aggression, but we received it. We will not show mercy or compunction in how we strike back because we are completely in the right.

You cannot compare this "War on Terrorism" to WWII, no matter how you slice it. For one thing, we are not being attacked by "Countries". Also, there were things which we should be ashamed for in doing to Germany, such as the bombing of Dresden.
Andaluciae
05-11-2006, 06:04
Ah, technically it was the Japanese who started it with America.

However, by that count, the west started the entire problem. None of the current problems would exist today had it not been for western influences in the region. Once again, your argument fails by your own logic.

The Germans started the Germany-Nazi conflict by declaring war on the US, in accordance with their treaty with Japan. Prior to that declaration, the US was not at war with Germany.
MeansToAnEnd
05-11-2006, 06:07
However, by that count, the west started the entire problem.

There were no ongoing conflicts caused by the West in the Middle East prior to 9/11. How in any way can it be construed as the fault of the West?
Greater Trostia
05-11-2006, 06:09
MTAE's the most effective at illiciting negative responses and avoiding moderator punishment. (So far).
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 06:10
It makes all the difference in the world. What Germany did to Poland, France, etc., was horrible. However, the British, Americans, Soviets, etc., did the same exact thing to Germany. Was there any difference between the gross destruction perpetrated by both sides? Of course. To put it simply, the Nazis "started it." Similarly, the terrorists "started it." That gives us the justification to use any means possible to end it, just like the Allies did in WWII. We did not ask for aggression, but we received it. We will not show mercy or compunction in how we strike back because we are completely in the right.

The Germans started the Germany-Nazi conflict by declaring war on the US, in accordance with their treaty with Japan. Prior to that declaration, the US was not at war with Germany.

Eh, true. However, even so, it would have been hard to get the nation mobilized for war without the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 06:20
There were no ongoing conflicts caused by the West in the Middle East prior to 9/11. How in any way can it be construed as the fault of the West?

...

Wow.

Alright, fine. First off, the CIA was who helped get the Ba'ath party into power, MTAE. Had we not done so, we would have no grounds for going to Iraq today, now would we?

Not to mention that the creation of Israel after WWII didn't exactly help matters with the people who were living in teh region before hand, and this is actually behind many problems up until today.

And more.

Really, we started all of this, maybe not directly, but indirectly. Had we, oh I don't know, not been jackasses in the past, then the entire situation may not have occurred.
MeansToAnEnd
05-11-2006, 06:24
Really, we started all of this, maybe not directly, but indirectly. Had we, oh I don't know, not been jackasses in the past, then the entire situation may not have occurred.

If our ancestors had not mastered the use of fire, then this entire situation may not have occurred. Are you going to blame the entire crisis on Oorg? No -- you must only examine direct causes. Although the US was guilty of some transgressions back in the past, it has done nothing to warrant these heinous deeds in the present.
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 06:30
If our ancestors had not mastered the use of fire, then this entire situation may not have occurred. Are you going to blame the entire crisis on Oorg? No -- you must only examine direct causes. Although the US was guilty of some transgressions back in the past, it has done nothing to warrant these heinous deeds in the present.

Such as 9/11, which had next to nothing to do with Iraq. Alright, perfect sense.

For the record-All for Afghanisan, as it was the harborer. But Iraq is a different story. You are lumping all people of a given region into one generic whole, blaming all for the actions of the few. Thus, again, your argument is flawed.
Congo--Kinshasa
05-11-2006, 06:34
First off, the CIA was who helped get the Ba'ath party into power, MTAE. Had we not done so, we would have no grounds for going to Iraq today, now would we?

I'd love to see your source for this.

I won't deny we provided substantial aid to Saddam's Iraq, but I've never read any source suggesting we were even remotely involved in Saddam's seizure of power (he seems to have done that by himself).
Secret aj man
05-11-2006, 06:36
Before I put up the poll, lemme make sure I'm not missing anyone:
The UN ambassadorship
Means to an End
Jesussaves
Conscience and truth (in case you don't remember him, he pretended to believe a strawman example of the leftist position in any topic that would apply to)
Is that it, or are there more?

EDIT: Forgot RealAmerica. Anyone else?
EDIT2: Apparently I forgot some guy named Whittier.
EDIT3: Forgot three named Japaica, the State of Georgia, and MKULTRA. I'll add Mittani to the list if nobody else posts soon.
EDIT4:Ok, that's 10. Poll coming.

i am insulted...i should be..as i dont cotton to the liberal leanings or the right wing nutjobs...on this retarded site,,not that everyone here is retarded....just so polarised they cant see straight...dogma rules here..get used to it.

i get leftie mommas boys calling me righty,and righty's calling me left...lol.

adjust...you cant win..ever..

computer commando's will always dictate your affiliation..

ask dobbs or his cronies...i am a right wing conservative..and i aint close to that...and jeez...i aint left either.

makes me my own person,not some knee jerk asswad for the party that gives 2 shits about you and yours.

i love the dems cause they care about people,but they are full of shit mostly,and the right is correct about economics but they fuck people.

i should do a poll about who i am lol...

the results would suprise you.

poll forthcoming i hope...if i can stay sober...lol...thats for dobbs.


enjoy your life and never ever..affiliate yourself with a party!

only a losers game tying yourself to one dogma....
but what do i know?
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 06:37
I'd love to see your source for this.

I won't deny we provided substantial aid to Saddam's Iraq, but I've never read any source suggesting we were even remotely involved in Saddam's seizure of power (he seems to have done that by himself).

Eh, yeah. You see, I said nothing about getting Saddam to power. That was a bit later after the Ba'ath party came into power.

Will a wiki do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaam_Hussein
Congo--Kinshasa
05-11-2006, 06:38
Eh, yeah. You see, I said nothing about getting Saddam to power. That was a bit later after the Ba'ath party came into power.

Will a wiki do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaam_Hussein

Works for me.

*concedes, gives Seangoli a cookie*
Seangoli
05-11-2006, 06:39
Works for me.

*concedes, gives Seangoli a cookie*

*does a cossack dance*

Thank you.
CanuckHeaven
05-11-2006, 07:09
I'd love to see your source for this.

I won't deny we provided substantial aid to Saddam's Iraq, but I've never read any source suggesting we were even remotely involved in Saddam's seizure of power (he seems to have done that by himself).
Thanks for the memories (http://www.ericblumrich.com/thanks.html)......sing it Bing!!
Big Jim P
05-11-2006, 10:51
Beeker?

:eek: Oh shit!
Hakeka
05-11-2006, 10:55
If our ancestors had not mastered the use of fire, then this entire situation may not have occurred. Are you going to blame the entire crisis on Oorg? No -- you must only examine direct causes. Although the US was guilty of some transgressions back in the past, it has done nothing to warrant these heinous deeds in the present.

Why must we only examine direct causes, then? Why must we only be allowed to see what you explicitly want us to see? Why is it that you try so hard to make people "see it your way" by whatever means possible, lying, coming up with all this bullshit?
Personally, I vote you as the best troll in the history of trolls. In terms of ignorance and arrogance, you've outgunned every idiot I've ever known or heard of.
Harlesburg
05-11-2006, 11:13
Trolls>People without Original nations because of inactivity.
The Potato Factory
05-11-2006, 11:14
It makes all the difference in the world. What Germany did to Poland, France, etc., was horrible. However, the British, Americans, Soviets, etc., did the same exact thing to Germany. Was there any difference between the gross destruction perpetrated by both sides? Of course. To put it simply, the Nazis "started it." Similarly, the terrorists "started it." That gives us the justification to use any means possible to end it, just like the Allies did in WWII. We did not ask for aggression, but we received it. We will not show mercy or compunction in how we strike back because we are completely in the right.

Except that YOU started it, with your fucking treaty.
Findecano Calaelen
05-11-2006, 11:42
:eek: Oh shit!

thats what I said but wouldnt he still be Deat on sight??
Big Jim P
05-11-2006, 11:52
thats what I said but wouldnt he still be Deat on sight??

Yes he is last I heard, But if Beeks were to reappear he could probably get around that by just not admitting who he was.
Chumblywumbly
05-11-2006, 11:58
thats what I said but wouldnt he still be Deat on sight??
Still? I abandon this site for over a year and he’s still on the naughty stool?
Big Jim P
05-11-2006, 12:02
Still? I abandon this site for over a year and he’s still on the naughty stool?

I think he pretty effectively superglued his ass to the naughty stool. The Mods have a long memory.
Harlesburg
05-11-2006, 12:25
Beeker?
Had a beard so is AOK.:)
HC Eredivisie
05-11-2006, 13:44
I feel special because I got quoted three times here:p
SHAOLIN9
05-11-2006, 13:49
Beeker?

http://home.maine.rr.com/waassaap/Forum%20Pictures/Beaker_s.jpg

Greatest troll? hmmmm...... my time will come!

"I am the greatest!":p

7 pages in and not even a hint of Deep Kimchi in this thread!:p
I remember the days when someone called him a troll at most of his posts!
I never really thought he was though.
Killinginthename
05-11-2006, 18:35
Thanks for the memories (http://www.ericblumrich.com/thanks.html)......sing it Bing!!
Sweeeeet!
I am glad to meet another Bushflash fan CH!
You should check out the other site in my sig Real Republic.
It is an off-shoot of the Bushflash forum.
Gorias
05-11-2006, 19:14
Believe it or not, every troll here was agreed to by other NSers.
So your beef is with NS in general, not this thread.
Besides, for some of these people it's a compliment.

i've already stated why i think this thread is trolling. its try to single a person, even though you giving people the option to chose who. again i say its immature like school yard antics.
Gorias
05-11-2006, 19:17
the terrorists "started it." That gives us the justification to use any means possible to end it,

thats a funny account of things. since when is "the terrorist started it", been a reasonable point of view? you do realise america started it.
Gorias
05-11-2006, 19:18
What I consider a troll is someone who comes in leaving sarcastic/derogetory remarks, usually one liners, attacking the OP, the thread title or someones post without even replying to the subject(Johnny Wadd was a troll). Fass was great at that. Not calling him a troll, but he trolled sometimes by my definition. People that post just foul mouthed crap or pornlinks and pics.. are spammers I guess? I know it doesn't happen here.. but you know what I mean.

good description of a troll.
Gorias
05-11-2006, 19:20
There were no ongoing conflicts caused by the West in the Middle East prior to 9/11. How in any way can it be construed as the fault of the West?

oh my god. how many mushrooms did you take to have that delusion?
Dobbsworld
05-11-2006, 19:22
good description of a troll.

Not particularly.
Mentholyptus
05-11-2006, 22:01
I cannot believe that we've gone eight pages without a mention of (NS)Commando (1-7)! Does no one else remember that nut?
Liuzzo
05-11-2006, 22:47
I have already answered that question before. In short, my prior account, which I have held since early 2004, was banned. I took a one year break from NSG, and I came back in September of 2006.

banned because you were a troll?
Liuzzo
05-11-2006, 22:48
I'm not going to say because I espoused some puerile and rather embarrassing ideas under that sobriquet, and I know that many users will use that information to discredit me.

you embarass and negate yourself at every turn. There's nothing you can do by revealing the name that will make anyone of intellect think worse of you.
KooleKoggle
05-11-2006, 22:56
By far MeansToAnEnd is the best troll. I mean ome on. What other troll trolls on the poll topic about the best troll? Look at the last 8 pages. Pure MTAE trolling. Classic.
Sheni
05-11-2006, 23:19
By far MeansToAnEnd is the best troll. I mean ome on. What other troll trolls on the poll topic about the best troll? Look at the last 8 pages. Pure MTAE trolling. Classic.

He's got a point.
Liuzzo
06-11-2006, 16:14
He's got a point.

oh MTAE you are som easy to hate, yet you never go away. It's a shame your last nation got deleted because you are a TROLL. Do you live in a cave or on the hillside like other trolls? Do you have pointy ears like a troll?
Amazing Comebacks
06-11-2006, 16:39
Jesussaves... but that was in my time
The Tribes Of Longton
06-11-2006, 17:01
Jesussaves... but that was in my time
You say that like Jesussaves was a long time ago.

Who was that one who pretended to be a proper feminazi? Refused to say women because it relied to heavily on men, insisted they were called womyn. Whoever did that one was awesome, I'd rate it up there with Jesussaves.

Also, Deep Kimchi. Pain in the arse.
UpwardThrust
06-11-2006, 17:24
You say that like Jesussaves was a long time ago.

Who was that one who pretended to be a proper feminazi? Refused to say women because it relied to heavily on men, insisted they were called womyn. Whoever did that one was awesome, I'd rate it up there with Jesussaves.

Also, Deep Kimchi. Pain in the arse.

Herpower ... clasic as well
Pure Metal
06-11-2006, 17:48
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5371/26464085c9a91f2032tj9.jpg

this guy :)
Congo--Kinshasa
06-11-2006, 18:48
IMO, MeansToAnEnd is not a troll. A troll is someone who deliberately posts outrageous, inflammatory, and provocative things just to get a rise out of people or get attention. MTAE is at least consistent, and seems to genuinely believe what he posts. Not that I support many of his stances, though...
Greater Trostia
06-11-2006, 18:52
IMO, MeansToAnEnd is not a troll. A troll is someone who deliberately posts outrageous, inflammatory, and provocative things just to get a rise out of people or get attention. MTAE is at least consistent

Big deal. He consistently posts inflammatory things to get attention and a rise out of people.

He ignores the real debates in order to keep the thread going by posting things calculated to get more attention.

He focuses on the negative responses and posts more responses to those than anything else.

, and seems to genuinely believe what he posts.

And you know what he believes, how? Because he's consistent? Haha!
Congo--Kinshasa
06-11-2006, 18:55
He consistently posts inflammatory things to get attention and a rise out of people.

I don't think he tries to get a rise out of people. He just doesn't care when he does.
Greater Trostia
06-11-2006, 18:55
I don't think he tries to get a rise out of people.

Then you're not thinking straight.
The Tribes Of Longton
06-11-2006, 18:57
Herpower ... clasic as well
Yeah, who was tht in the end? I remember it being a more naive time (for me, at least), where puppets were hard to spot and people were damn good at their trolling.
Cullons
06-11-2006, 18:58
Just read this thread:

Abortion Helps the Terrorists
As you know, we are engaged in a deadly struggle against Islamo-fascism. Unfortunately, they are winning. Each year, the Christian population increases by 2.3% (which, incidentally, is the rate of world-wide population expansion), yet the Islamic population balloons by 2.7%. At this rate, the Muslims will overtake the Christians in numbers by 2025. Already signs of this growing Muslim population are evident in Europe, where freedoms are being restricted so as not to offend intolerant Muslims. Soon, when Muslims are in the majority, Europe may very well be turned into an Islamic state. Well, we must not let the same thing happen in America. We must not allow the terrorists and extremist Muslims who hate our freedoms to win, like Europe is doing. We have tried to achieve this goal through war, but we failed to a certain extent -- the inexorable spread of Islam was not halted sufficiently. Many Muslims died, but not enough. We must seek other means of stopping this Islamic invasion of the world through their extremely high birth rates. We must formulate a defense against this clever ploy of inundating our population with Muslim immigrants. One method of doing this is to encourage non-Muslims to breed. We must heap tax incentives at the feet of those non-Muslims who wish to copulate. Also, we must criminalize abortion. Anybody who is willing to get an abortion is letting the terrorists win -- there is no way around that fact. If you kill an innocent baby, you are doing the terrorists' work for them. To win this war on terror, a new strategy is required -- we must out-breed the enemy. They have a head start on us, but I'm confident that we'll be able to come back from behind to win. If not, we can always nuke them, but that's too extreme a solution for the time being and I would prefer a peaceful resolution to this problem. If you don't want an all-out war, you better be prepared to breed rapidly; it's the only other solution.

so had to vote for him
The Tribes Of Longton
06-11-2006, 19:03
And...MTAE isn't a puppet?
Congo--Kinshasa
06-11-2006, 19:11
Then you're not thinking straight.

Never said I was. :p

And way to selectively quote me there. -.-
Khadgar
06-11-2006, 19:26
I'd like to remind everyone that if you click on the names of posters you will be taken to a screen where you can add them to your "ignore list" and their posts will be replaced with a message that says "This user is on your Ignore List."

MeansToAnEnd is on my list, and it's working out lovely, though people tend to quote him verbatim which sucks because I still end up reading his tripe.
Pledgeria
06-11-2006, 20:51
MeansToAnEnd is on my list, and it's working out lovely, though people tend to quote him verbatim which sucks because I still end up reading his tripe.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing about the one(s) on my ignore list. That and about the long string of "message is not displayed because [user] is on your ignore list."
Kiryu-shi
06-11-2006, 21:11
I found Jesussaves! http://untitledname.com/2005/05/jesus-saves.

Who knew...
Gauthier
06-11-2006, 21:57
MTAE kind of broke UNA's legendary "Offer to give Bush a blowjob and taste Cheney's nipples" line with his wholehearted comparison of kidtoucher Mark Foley with Rosa Parks.
Greater Trostia
06-11-2006, 22:54
Never said I was. :p

And way to selectively quote me there. -.-


The other part was irrelevant to whether he is a troll, so I ignored it. If you want I could explain that many trolls don't care about offending people, in the sense that they don't lose sleep or have a guilty conscience when they do it.
MeansToAnEnd
06-11-2006, 22:59
If you want I could explain that many trolls don't care about offending people, in the sense that they don't lose sleep or have a guilty conscience when they do it.

Can you not sleep at night when they insult or offend me? If so, then you would have been dead by now. You have regularly considered me a troll just because I don't share you views, and it is irritating and very offensive.
Jocabia
06-11-2006, 22:59
Before I put up the poll, lemme make sure I'm not missing anyone:
The UN ambassadorship
Means to an End
Jesussaves
Conscience and truth (in case you don't remember him, he pretended to believe a strawman example of the leftist position in any topic that would apply to)
Is that it, or are there more?

EDIT: Forgot RealAmerica. Anyone else?
EDIT2: Apparently I forgot some guy named Whittier.
EDIT3: Forgot three named Japaica, the State of Georgia, and MKULTRA. I'll add Mittani to the list if nobody else posts soon.
EDIT4:Ok, that's 10. Poll coming.


You need an other. HerPower was the best troll that ever was and ever will be.
Greater Trostia
06-11-2006, 23:02
Can you not sleep at night when they insult or offend me? If so, then you would have been dead by now.

I too can sleep at night regardless of whether I offend anyone. That's another reason why that bit was irrelevant to being a troll.

You have regularly considered me a troll just because I don't share you views, and it is irritating and very offensive.

Nah, I consider you a troll because you troll. If that offends and irritates you, perhaps it's time for you to stop trolling! Garsh!
Jocabia
06-11-2006, 23:02
You say that like Jesussaves was a long time ago.

Who was that one who pretended to be a proper feminazi? Refused to say women because it relied to heavily on men, insisted they were called womyn. Whoever did that one was awesome, I'd rate it up there with Jesussaves.

Also, Deep Kimchi. Pain in the arse.

It was Sinuhue, my friend. I can't believe you don't remember.
Mooseica
06-11-2006, 23:02
Can you not sleep at night when they insult or offend me? If so, then you would have been dead by now. You have regularly considered me a troll just because I don't share you views, and it is irritating and very offensive.

For all your heated defence of your position, have you ever considered why it is that nearly all your threads get locked?
MeansToAnEnd
06-11-2006, 23:06
For all your heated defence of your position, have you ever considered why it is that nearly all your threads get locked?

Because the mods have a liberal bias. All my ideas are perfectly rational, but they are closed nonetheless because this forum is so extremely liberal that a majority of people consider my topics flame-baiting.
Yootopia
06-11-2006, 23:07
Because the mods have a liberal bias. All my ideas are perfectly rational, but they are closed nonetheless because this forum is so extremely liberal that a majority of people consider my topics flame-baiting.
No, they're just offensive and shite.
Seangoli
06-11-2006, 23:07
Because the mods have a liberal bias. All my ideas are perfectly rational, but they are closed nonetheless because this forum is so extremely liberal that a majority of people consider my topics flame-baiting.

Actually, many of the mods are politically conservative, if I remember correctly from years ago.
Bookislvakia
06-11-2006, 23:08
Because the mods have a liberal bias. All my ideas are perfectly rational, but they are closed nonetheless because this forum is so extremely liberal that a majority of people consider my topics flame-baiting.

Advocating genocide in several different forms, as you have, is not rational.
Greater Trostia
06-11-2006, 23:11
Because the mods have a liberal bias.

Well, ya know, it must be a PC Liberal Communist Muslim Terrorist Democrat Bush-Hating Conspiracy!

Or, maybe, what you do is the definition of trolling.

All my ideas are perfectly rational

And when rational people poke rational holes in your "ideas," you ignore it.

Because to admit when those ideas sink would be to end the thread. And your goal is to make huge, attention-getting threads. You're practically masturbating to the attention you're being given in this one. Yet you conviniently ignore the actual debates when they don't go your way - you pretend they didn't exist, and if you respond to them you do it in an irrational way designed purely to keep the responses going.

And you know all this.
HotRodia
06-11-2006, 23:23
Because the mods have a liberal bias.

I've seen folks with political views all over the map claim that the Mods are biased against their view point. What I conclude from this is not that the Mods are biased against every political viewpoint, but that trolls often find it easier to claim that the Mods have a bias against their viewpoint than make any sort of legitimate argument. Big surprise, that.

All my ideas are perfectly rational, but they are closed nonetheless because this forum is so extremely liberal that a majority of people consider my topics flame-baiting.

1. Rationality of viewpoint is no guarantee that you will not be in violation of the rules. Let's say that a person called another poster a fucking idiot. Even if there is a perfectly rational basis for believing that the poster is indeed a fucking idiot, it is still a flame, and a rules violation.

2. The demographics of this forum do tend towards the liberal-left, yes, but that's hardly any excuse for your failure to follow the rules. The Mod team is well aware that folks don't have the right to not be offended by alternative viewpoints, and enforce the rules accordingly.
Minaris
06-11-2006, 23:25
Because the mods have a liberal bias. All my ideas are perfectly rational, but they are closed nonetheless because this forum is so extremely liberal that a majority of people consider my topics flame-baiting.

You proved it to me, remember? It went like this...

Are you a troll? I will use your answer to determine if you are one or not. 42, because you will say I'm a troll anyway.

That was the most trollish answer possible.

MTAE= troll. Do not feed.
Kwangistar
06-11-2006, 23:38
So few votes for MKUltra / TRA 8(

But I guess a bunch of people registered after he died out
HotRodia
06-11-2006, 23:41
And folks, don't feed the trolls by creating a thread guaranteed to attract them and then debating which one is the best.

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HotRodia