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Hacking Democracy 101

CanuckHeaven
04-11-2006, 20:07
The more I read of this nonsense, the more I am concerned about democracy in the free world. This is truly scary stuff and people should stand up and voice their concerns while they still can.

Stealing votes = stealing democracy

What are YOU going to do about it?

In Washington state, where long-suffering voters are accustomed to re-counts, a recent poll by Strategic Vision said 73 per cent felt problems with the 2004 election hadn't been fixed. So why bother voting?

Election officials turned to electronic voting machines after the 2000 presidential election, when it took more than a month after polls closed to confirm George W. Bush the winner.

It was hoped the machines would reduce the need for re-counts and strengthen the election system. Instead, critics have attacked Diebold Election Systems, Inc. (DESI) for creating units allegedly prone to electoral fraud.

Perhaps most damning, Edward Felten, a professor at Princeton University specializing in computer security, has co-authored a paper on how a Diebold AccuVote-TS model can be hacked in one minute. (A video demonstration can be seen here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8673726680080882009&hl=en)).

"Analysis of the machine, in light of real election procedures, shows that it is vulnerable to extremely serious attacks," the study reads.

"For example, an attacker who gets physical access to a machine or its removable memory card for as little as one minute could install malicious code: malicious code on a machine could steal votes undetectably, modifying all records, logs, and counters to be consistent with the fraudulent vote count it creates."

The paper also suggests such malicious programming would spread to other voting machines, tainting even more results. That's especially concerning because up to 40 per cent of voters nationwide are expected to vote electronically using paperless machines, according to elections officials.

Without a paper record, there could be no proof such machines were compromised.

DESI spokesperson Mike Morrill defended the company's machines, saying hackers will not be able to tamper with the units' voting results on Nov. 7.

"We have an extraordinary level of confidence," Morrill told The Washington Post. "They've proven reliable, and that's exactly what we expect in this November's election across the country."

But even without hackers, the machines seem to be prone to failure. In Maryland's primary vote in September, some electronic voting machines crashed, while others failed to open in time. That prompted the state's governor to ask residents to vote using mail-in ballots in November.

"When in doubt, go paper, go low-tech," advised Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr.

He also asked that Maryland revert to a paper ballot system by Nov. 7, even though the state has invested US$106 million in its electronic voting system, according to the Post.

Hacking Democracy

This week, U.S. cable network HBO broadcast a documentary called "Hacking Democracy," in which writer Bev Harris examined complaints about the machines and how they have affected election results. Diebold demanded that HBO withhold airing the film until after the Nov. 7 elections, but HBO refused.

Dave Byrd, president of Deibold Election Systems, responded to the film through a letter posted on the company's website. He accused the film of being "fraught with factual errors and misrepresentations," and said his company was not offered the chance to review the film before it was aired.

Among his clarifications, Byrd said that more than half of all DESI machines will leave a paper trail, so in the event of a malfunction or hacker attack, voters will have proof of their electoral decision.

He also accused HBO of adding to an already dismal voter turnout problem in the U.S. by spreading fear -- in the 2004 election, 64 per cent of registered voters headed to the polls.

"Unfortunately, programs such as the HBO documentary, aired repeatedly days before a national election, serve only to scare and confuse voters," writes Byrd.

On Nov. 7, Americans will use thousands of DESI electronic voting machines, including 24,000 optical scan units and 126,000 touch screen units.

In total, 80 per cent of votes will be inputted into machines designed by DESI and two other companies -- Sequoia and ES and S.

Like DESI, Sequoia has also found itself in hot water, but not because of any alleged flaws in its machines. The U.S. government is now investigating allegations the company has ties to Venezuelan's socialist leader -- and friend of Fidel Castro -- Hugo Chavez.

Sequoia has repeatedly denied the charge.

Link (http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStories/ContentPosting.aspx?newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20061103%2fmidterms_voting_061103&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V2&showbyline=True).
Kinda Sensible people
04-11-2006, 20:12
Voters in Washington state are only wary of election processes because of the BS Rossi threw out when he ran for Governor. It actually has nothing to do with Diebold, since the vast majority of "questionable" votes were off of paper ballots.
Linthiopia
04-11-2006, 20:14
Honestly, just hard can it be to create digital voting machines that are tamper-proof?! I mean, I'm aware that there is a need for security measures, but there's no way that this WHOLE COUNTRY can't put their heads together, and stop some hacker from gaining access to a memory chip. There's just no plausible way this can be so difficult. :headbang:
Non Aligned States
04-11-2006, 20:22
There's just no plausible way this can be so difficult. :headbang:

Special interest groups, lowest possible manufacturing cost, political connections within the company....

I'd say it's impossible. Unless you're willing to flatten much of America and rebuild from ground up.
CanuckHeaven
04-11-2006, 20:22
Honestly, just hard can it be to create digital voting machines that are tamper-proof?! I mean, I'm aware that there is a need for security measures, but there's no way that this WHOLE COUNTRY can't put their heads together, and stop some hacker from gaining access to a memory chip. There's just no plausible way this can be so difficult. :headbang:
Computers were designed and programed by humans and we know how perfect humans are? :rolleyes:
Killinginthename
04-11-2006, 22:09
Deibold voting machines are engineered perfectly for their real purpose.
That purpose, of course, is making it easy to manipulate the vote so that the candidates that you wish to "win" will "win" in any given election.

This fact (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm) was proven in the 2004 "election" when the chief executive of Diebold Inc., Walden O'Dell, wrote in a fund-raising letter to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund that he "is committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

How much more blatant can you get?

What America needs are country-wide standards for all elections based on pen and paper technology with bi-partisan commissions to count the vote.

I do not care if it takes them a month to count all the ballots.
As long as every single vote is counted and we actually get the leaders that the public wants in office and not the ones that can steal elections with the help of their friends in the "election industry".
CanuckHeaven
04-11-2006, 22:47
What America needs are country-wide standards for all elections based on pen and paper technology with bi-partisan commissions to count the vote.

I do not care if it takes them a month to count all the ballots.
As long as every single vote is counted and we actually get the leaders that the public wants in office and not the ones that can steal elections with the help of their friends in the "election industry".
I agree, this is what is needed to fix the problem. We use that system in Canada and within hours we know who the winners are.

Considering the article that you linked, it does seem extremely strange that exit polls in Ohio that strongly suggested a Kerry win, did not pan out when the votes were tabulated.
CanuckHeaven
05-11-2006, 07:32
Check out the video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8673726680080882009&hl=en). I would have thought that most Americans would be extremely concerned about this?
Kinda Sensible people
05-11-2006, 07:37
It is mostly hype.

Really, precautions are being taken, but it's being blown out of proportion. Yes, Diebold needs to be better regulated, no, it isn't unlikely to lead to any permanent disenfranchisement.
Teneur
05-11-2006, 09:37
It is mostly hype.

Really, precautions are being taken, but it's being blown out of proportion. Yes, Diebold needs to be better regulated, no, it isn't unlikely to lead to any permanent disenfranchisement.

It matters not who votes, but who counts.

Of course blatant disenfranchisement isn't going to take place, that'd be too obvious. What's happening (and happened before now) is the results are being manipulated. Everyone can vote, but that doesn't mean the results will be an accurate representation of the peoples wishes if these sort of voter security gaps are present.
The Plutonian Empire
05-11-2006, 10:19
The more I read of this nonsense, the more I am concerned about democracy in the free world. This is truly scary stuff and people should stand up and voice their concerns while they still can.

Stealing votes = stealing democracy

What are YOU going to do about it?



Link (http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStories/ContentPosting.aspx?newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20061103%2fmidterms_voting_061103&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V2&showbyline=True).
Another reason the Repubs will win, ladies and gentlemen. (meaning they hack the machines to make the votes count in their favor)
Intestinal fluids
05-11-2006, 13:05
It is mostly hype.

Really, precautions are being taken, but it's being blown out of proportion. Yes, Diebold needs to be better regulated, no, it isn't unlikely to lead to any permanent disenfranchisement.

And how exactly did you come to this conclusion? The whole point of these huge security breaches is that they are UNDETECTABLE. How do you know with any confidence that the last election wasnt in fact rigged? Its easy to SAY this is an overblown issue but you really have NO way of alalyzing its true seriousness without digging real deep.