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What do you think of beauty pagents in general? Are they fine and dandy? Are they imoral meat markets? Are they anti-feminist objectification meat markets? Do the women wear too many or not enough clothes?

(This was inspired by a recent article from here in Japan regarding the choice of this year's Miss International Japan - Hisako Shirata - who previously stared in a borderline soft-core porn film. Article (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/face/news/20061103p2g00m0dm019000c.html))

If an adult female or male is involved, nothing wrong with them.

I think the kiddie version is a pedophile's wet dream.

If an adult female or male is involved, nothing wrong with them.

I think the kiddie version is a pedophile's wet dream.

Agreed. The kid ones practically ask pedophiles to come.

If an adult female or male is involved, nothing wrong with them.

I think the kiddie version is a pedophile's wet dream.

Dang - left the "should be age limited" option off the poll.

Adult ones I've got no problem with. Oh, it probably DOES contribute to objectification and our skin-deep, superficial view of others; but frankly I don't see either as of overwhelming importance. And personally, viewing the human body as an object of beauty seems a good thing.

ok, if male beauty pageants were exactly the same. and yeh, kiddy beauty pageants are just a bit disturbing.

Dang - left the "should be age limited" option off the poll.

No you didn't. ;)

No you didn't. ;)

:) Madam, you are beautiful.

As the copyrighted owner of the Miss NatioinStates contest RP, I present you with this years crown.

Anyone who is against beauty pagents should come to Belgium and see Miss Belgium Beauty.
It's really hilarious how the flemish women try to speak french, and the walloon women try to speak dutch.
If you've watched it once, you'll keep on watching it.
And of course these women are sometimes beautiful

Adult ones I've got no problem with. Oh, it probably DOES contribute to objectification and our skin-deep, superficial view of others; but frankly I don't see either as of overwhelming importance. And personally, viewing the human body as an object of beauty seems a good thing.

That's the main reason I included and voted for the nude portion. It's a lot harder to pad and tape up the body (as is done in most contests) effecively when it's nude.

ok, if male beauty pageants were exactly the same. and yeh, kiddy beauty pageants are just a bit disturbing.

Agreed on both points.

Not interested in them, but my sister-in-laws sister won some nice scholarships. She was in the Miss Oklahoma pageant a few years ago.

I used to think beauty queens were dumb, but a lot of them a quite bright. Just not the above mentioned girl.:rolleyes:

That's the main reason I included and voted for the nude portion. It's a lot harder to pad and tape up the body (as is done in most contests) effecively when it's nude.

Of course, you had other reasons, I bet. :D :D :D

I personally think that the whole thing should be stopped on moral grounds - it's quite frankly horrendous. These women parade around, and, to be honest, people only watch it because these women are attractive, an opinion which is yet to be contradicted to me.

I understand that these women want to do this. But does it help society's morals in general by glorifying the "size 0" culture and glorifying what are effectively Barbie dolls?

I really don't care what consenting adults do, if they want to parade around half naked and try to be pretty, whatever.

I do know kids who are subjected to the kiddie pagent circuit and it makes me sick.

My own daughter wants to do one because her friend does, well, she wanted to, until I talked her out of it.

Don't even get me started on the Child Pageants. If ever there was an excuse for a clampdown on anything, it's that.

I saw one young lady on This Morning (British Morning TV Show) - she was 10, had a fake tan, fake nails, hair extensions, make-up...and her mother encouraged her. I was shocked. And I mean shocked. There must be something seriously wrong with someone to want to expose their child to a lifestyle of dressing up like a hooker to please men.

Which, when you look at it, is all it really is.

I really don't care what consenting adults do, if they want to parade around half naked and try to be pretty, whatever.

I do know kids who are subjected to the kiddie pagent circuit and it makes me sick.

My own daughter wants to do one because her friend does, well, she wanted to, until I talked her out of it.

That was the responsible thing to do.


You get a cookie. :)

Adults in beauty pagents re fine. My best friend did for the scholarship. She said the bathing suit part was not an issue as she was comfortable in a one piece. A bikini would have been a different issue. I let my daughter do one pagent at age 5 because she really wanted to try it. It got the desire out of her system and for Christmas that year the whole family gave her a tiara. That's all she rally wanted! LOL

if your 18 go do it, if you are 14, go to school, play with friends be a fuking kid.

Morvonia... why a F****** kid? There were so many other ways to express your obvious love of childhood.

Morvonia... why a F**k*ng kid? There were so many other ways to express your obvious love of childhood.

That is the blunest way.

If an adult female or male is involved, nothing wrong with them.

I think the kiddie version is a pedophile's wet dream.

This is roughly what I was going to say, so I'll just quote it rather than writing it out again.

I can't claim to care what consenting adults want to do. Child beauty pageants should be whacked with the banhammer.

Well, if you're gunna have a beauty pageant, the inner beauty should be emphasized the most as opposed to outer.

I can't claim to care what consenting adults want to do. Child beauty pageants should be whacked with the banhammer.

Um... do you mean the hosts, the parents, the physical area... what needs to be hit?


But yeah. Pre-pubiescent pageants should be a crime.

But after they hit puberty, they should be legal. Different, sure, but not illegal.

It may be the bluntest way, Minaris, but here we are discussing protecting the innocence of the young. It didn't seem appropriate.

If you're gunna objectify women, you must objectify men twice as harsh! Mwahahaha!!!!11 :eek:

It may be the bluntest way, Minaris, but here we are discussing protecting the innocence of the young. It didn't seem appropriate.


the word fuking was used as an example for the stupidity of 10 year old girls, their parents who do this sh!t and the people who promote it and my overall discust for the whole thing. that is not hard to understand.


BTW i am 16.

Before I begin, let me make it perfectly clear that I don't like child beauty contests. But when we discuss bans, where does it end? Do we ban children from the internet until they are 18? Do we stop all sales of "bad" PC games? Do we keep them from drinking and smoking until 18 or 21? Wai a minute, some things we do ban; some things we don't. How do we choose? What is our basis of choice?

Um... do you mean the hosts, the parents, the physical area... what needs to be hit?


But yeah. Pre-pubiescent pageants should be a crime.

But after they hit puberty, they should be legal. Different, sure, but not illegal.

You seem unfamiliar with the term "hit with the banhammer". Allow me to enlighten you. "to hit [something] with the banhammer"= to ban [something]

You seem unfamiliar with the term "hit with the banhammer". Allow me to enlighten you. "to hit [something] with the banhammer"= to ban [something]

This is akin, I believe, to hitting/poking with the "banstick"?

This is akin, I believe, to hitting/poking with the "banstick"?

Indeed it is. It might only be banhammer on the nexus war forums(you can name weapons in the game, one of the mods on the forum named her sledgehammer the banhammer)

Thankyou. I am now suitably enlightened today, thanks to this and the revelation that I can use my Co-Operative Privilege Card's 15% discount on purchases of New or Used Cars at any Motorworld Store. Which is sweet.

You seem unfamiliar with the term "hit with the banhammer". Allow me to enlighten you. "to hit [something] with the banhammer"= to ban [something]

Sorry. I am from the other side of the 'net.

Before I begin, let me make it perfectly clear that I don't like child beauty contests. But when we discuss bans, where does it end? Do we ban children from the internet until they are 18? Do we stop all sales of "bad" PC games? Do we keep them from drinking and smoking until 18 or 21? Wai a minute, some things we do ban; some things we don't. How do we choose? What is our basis of choice?

Choosing, I don't know how. We just do.

But, of course, I am not sure if we should ban these pedophilic 'pageants', but they need to be dealt with somehow.

If an adult female or male is involved, nothing wrong with them.

I think the kiddie version is a pedophile's wet dream.

100% agreed. On both counts. :)

beauty pagents are no worse than dog shows or the 4H cattle raising competition.

if a woman wants to compete with other women over who is prettiest, i dont see anything wrong with it. maybe to be fair they should have written standards of female perfection the same as the breed standards for the dog shows but i guess if they want to take their chances, thats their business.

If you want to be judged on your beauty, sure, fine, go ahead. Neither harms nor helps me.

Mind you, of course, my standards might be a tad different. (Veronica Zemanova? Fuck that, I'll that Kate Dillon, thanks.)

If we have the Nobel Prize, we should also have a "top-end looker" prize.

Anyone who wins both in the same year can be named "Overlord of the planet" for a year.

I "top-end hooker" prize.



It'd end up being that. :D

I'm serious. It would go down into the gutter within 10 years.

It'd end up being that. :D

I'm serious. It would go down into the gutter within 10 years.
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We already have "Miss World". We could also have "Mr. Planet".

And if anyone wins one of those and a Nobel Prize in a year, they get to rule the planet for a year. It'd be ace.

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We already have "Miss World". We could also have "Mr. Planet".

And if anyone wins one of those and a Nobel Prize in a year, they get to rule the planet for a year. It'd be ace.

And, if there is a Miss World/Nobel Prizer and a Mr. Planet/Nobel Prizer, they have to marry, have kids, and become the first world monarchy.

(For 5 years. Then they rule Belgium, Luxemborg, and andorra for the rest of their lives.)

And, if there is a Miss World/Nobel Prizer and a Mr. Planet/Nobel Prizer, they have to marry, have kids, and become the first world monarchy.

(For 5 years. Then they rule Belgium, Luxemborg, and andorra for the rest of their lives.)
Incorrect.

They rule the whole planet. As a monarchy. Until their eventual expiry.

:) Madam, you are beautiful.

As the copyrighted owner of the Miss NatioinStates contest RP, I present you with this years crown.
*Offers use of his glasses.....






.........ducks out to the back alley. :D

And, if there is a Miss World/Nobel Prizer and a Mr. Planet/Nobel Prizer, they have to marry, have kids, and become the first world monarchy.

(For 5 years. Then they rule Belgium, Luxemborg, and andorra for the rest of their lives.)

Why do you pick out Belgium Luxemborg and Andorra?
Taht's were I wanted to start my revolution, bastard