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Yes this is a copycat thread from Anyone ever seen a UFO? :D

So, has anyone ever seen a ghost, either with the naked eye, or with a video or film camera? I have never seen a ghost myself, but one time I was laying in bed, and I heard this sound of someone running, all the sudden the living room lights, dining room lights, kitchen lights, and both stairs lights turned on. Also, ever since my Siamese cat Sara died, my door refuse to remain shut. It tends to open up every once in awhile. Also, my mom now feels a cat laying on her at night, even though our 8 months old Siamese Amelia sleeps with me. So, has anyone here ever seen a ghost or had any experience with a ghost?

Yes this is a copycat thread from Anyone ever seen a UFO? :D

So, has anyone ever seen a ghost, either with the naked eye, or with a video or film camera? I have never seen a ghost myself, but one time I was laying in bed, and I heard this sound of someone running, all the sudden the living room lights, dining room lights, kitchen lights, and both stairs lights turned on. Also, ever since my Siamese cat Sara died, my door refuse to remain shut. It tends to open up every once in awhile. Also, my mom now feels a cat laying on her at night, even though our 8 months old Siamese Amelia sleeps with me. So, has anyone here ever seen a ghost or had any experience with a ghost?

No. :D

And I grew up behind a graveyard (well, technically a cemetary...same difference).

I do not, however, discount their existence.

Not a scene one but a gal from West Virginia says she has relatives that live near the Shenandoah.

She said as a girl she always had dreams about a confederate soldier watching her when she slept.

Years later she thought it was simply a child's mind at work until she and her finance went to visit. The next morning she said he told her he had a weird dream about a confederate soldier watching them sleep.

I said yea right. You told him. She said Nope.....

No.
My sister claims to see them on a regular basis. But my sister's a whack job.

Not a scene one but a gal from West Virginia says she has relatives that live near the Shenandoah.

She said as a girl she always had dreams about a confederate soldier watching her when she slept.

Years later she thought it was simply a child's mind at work until she and her finance went to visit. The next morning she said he told her he had a weird dream about a confederate soldier watching them sleep.

I said yea right. You told him. She said Nope.....

Now THAT'S freaky....

No.
My sister claims to see them on a regular basis. But my sister's a whack job.

How is she a whack job?

How is she a whack job? She's a 40 year old with a mohawk, married to an unmedicated schizophenic, who is 15 years her junior. She's recently decided she wants a sex change, with probably scares her three kids. Oh, and she's a coke addict.

She's a 40 year old with a mohawk, married to an unmedicated schizophenic, who is 15 years her junior. She's recently decided she wants a sex change, with probably scares her three kids. Oh, and she's a coke addict.

Wow.... :eek:

She's a 40 year old with a mohawk, married to an unmedicated schizophenic, who is 15 years her junior. She's recently decided she wants a sex change, with probably scares her three kids. Oh, and she's a coke addict.

OK, OK, OK...she's a whack job.

My wife is a counselor...nothing worse than a schizo who refuses to take his/her meds...

OK, OK, OK...she's a whack job.

My wife is a counselor...nothing worse than a schizo who refuses to take his/her meds...He and I rarely speak to each other even when in the same room. But once at 3 in the morning he called me long distance to tell me about his mathematical equation that proved the existence of God.:rolleyes:

He and I rarely speak to each other even when in the same room. But once at 3 in the morning he called me long distance to tell me about his mathematical equation that proved the existence of God.:rolleyes:

Personally I'm surprise she isn't locked away in a mental institution.

anyways, back on topic.

He and I rarely speak to each other even when in the same room. But once at 3 in the morning he called me long distance to tell me about his mathematical equation that proved the existence of God.:rolleyes:

Please tell me you took notes...this could be big...you know, "A Simple Mind"...:D

Please tell me you took notes...this could be big...you know, "A Simple Mind"...:DLOL
No, afraid I try to forget anything he tells me as soon as possible.

LOL
No, afraid I try to forget anything he tells me as soon as possible.

*sigh*

I guess I'll just have to wait 'til I die to figure it all out, then...

Would've been nice to have the Cliff Notes...:D

Not a scene one but a gal from West Virginia says she has relatives that live near the Shenandoah.

She said as a girl she always had dreams about a confederate soldier watching her when she slept.

Years later she thought it was simply a child's mind at work until she and her finance went to visit. The next morning she said he told her he had a weird dream about a confederate soldier watching them sleep.

I said yea right. You told him. She said Nope.....

ahahaha - I grew up on the west shore of the susquehanna, between harrisburg and gettysburg. I saw a soldier every night for years. I hate everything to do with the civil war.

incidentally in years since I've seen everything from dead people to non-human spirits, and the occasional poltergeist. anyone who thinks these things aren't real is willfully ignorant, as far as I'm concerned. nobody can convince me I've hallucinated a poltergeist that left bruises. for the record I don't do drugs, and have never so much as been drunk. if you want proof of this kind of shit, any religion worth its salt will have some of it going on.

I was a ghost...maybe.

Once I was without a heartbeat for four minutes and forty-seven seconds. I was badly injured in hospital.

ahahaha - I grew up on the west shore of the susquehanna, between harrisburg and gettysburg. I saw a soldier every night for years. I hate everything to do with the civil war.

incidentally in years since I've seen everything from dead people to non-human spirits, and the occasional poltergeist. anyone who thinks these things aren't real is willfully ignorant, as far as I'm concerned. nobody can convince me I've hallucinated a poltergeist that left bruises. for the record I don't do drugs, and have never so much as been drunk. if you want proof of this kind of shit, any religion worth its salt will have some of it going on.

What do you mean? Religion is pretty much bullshit anyway.

I was thinking about a friend who died one night and like a few seconds later I saw a light fly out of my closet and out my window.

I've seen two, actually. One I'm pretty sure was the ghost of my father and was a real experiance, the other I'm pretty sure was the over active imagination of a guy reading the Hound of the Baskervilles alone at night with one light on in the house.

At least I never heard about a headless woman in a wedding dress in my house before or since then.

At least I never heard about a headless woman in a wedding dress in my house before or since then.

*chuckles* some wander around. they aren't tied to location, generally speaking, though certain locations help them focus - those they're emotionally attatched to, and those that stand out for other reasons I'm not going to theorise about right now. the headless woman in a wedding dress sounds like an interesting story...

*chuckles* some wander around. they aren't tied to location, generally speaking, though certain locations help them focus - those they're emotionally attatched to, and those that stand out for other reasons I'm not going to theorise about right now. the headless woman in a wedding dress sounds like an interesting story...
Not much of one. I litterally was just reading by the light of a single lamp one dark night waiting for my family to get home. I had gotten to the part where the myth of the Hound was being explained when something made me look up to see a woman in a wedding dress (and missing her head) turn the corner into the hallway of my house.

I ended up turning on every light (the hall light was with a stick) in the house along with every TV and radio until my family got home.

Here's something that happened to my family we used to live in a haunted house but for some reason the ghost "moved" away.

One day my brother and a friend of his were waiting for my family to pick them up since they were going to go out for dinner. They heard the door open and in my other brother's voice call out and say "we're home, lets go" So they went down and didn't find anybody there so they went outside since they got scared and they heard the dog going crazy inside so they opened the door and let it out with them.

I do not believe they exist, simply they are the product of the persons' minds.

Not much of one. I litterally was just reading by the light of a single lamp one dark night waiting for my family to get home. I had gotten to the part where the myth of the Hound was being explained when something made me look up to see a woman in a wedding dress (and missing her head) turn the corner into the hallway of my house.

I ended up turning on every light (the hall light was with a stick) in the house along with every TV and radio until my family got home.

hahaha - I meant where she came from, how she lost her head, etc - your interaction with her was rather amusing, though. there are some rather talented....species, for lack of a better term, that read minds and such. it might have just pulled that out of your head at random to scare the shit out of you. on that level things can feed off of emotions - there are lots of parasites out there, and most people have natural sorts of spiritual immune-systems that protect them, but some folks (really bad drug users, drunks, and the like) compromise them so badly they get in. I've seen posession...it's not pretty. there are friendly, wonderful little creatures bouncing around out there too - but just as many frightening or actually dangerous ones. but yeah - that could either have been an actual confused dead person, or something that fed off fear and happened to float on by you and notice you were susceptable. or maybe you have a *very* active imagination...but I've never heard of people conjuring up images that powerful...particularly that have nothing to do with the book (I don't recall any headless brides in the hound of the baskervilles)

I do not believe they exist, simply they are the product of the persons' minds.

explain poltergeists and visions in terms of overactive imaginations. I've encoutered things that have told me verifiable facts I didn't know before I met them - that were later answered by others. I know dozens of people who tell stories not of just seeing them, but interacting with them. one girl confessed she used to talk to one that would answer her by flicking the lights on and off in her room. once I was frank about my experiences with another person, and a girl who was listening in suddenly burst out "I WASN'T CRAZY!!!!" in shock, when I described things she'd seen for years but never believed in. the vast majority of people believe in these things - many of them have experienced things with tangible, physical results that can't be wished away by calling it imagination or hullucination.

explain poltergeists and visions in terms of overactive imaginations.

In the same way dreams and other hallucinations are, just a combination of past experiences and imagination manafesting themselves as images.

I've encoutered things that have told me verifiable facts I didn't know before I met them - that were later answered by others.

That statement is not verifiable by anyone other than by yourself, so doesn't prove anything other than asserting your belief in it.

I know dozens of people who tell stories not of just seeing them, but interacting with them.

In the same way people talk to god? or the prophets?

the vast majority of people believe in these things - many of them have experienced things with tangible, physical results that can't be wished away by calling it imagination or hullucination.

That is a generalisation, some statistics please.

In the same way dreams and other hallucinations are, just a combination of past experiences and imagination manafesting themselves as images.



That statement is not verifiable by anyone other than by yourself, so doesn't prove anything other than asserting your belief in it.



In the same way people talk to god? or the prophets?



That is a generalisation, some statistics please.

lol, I don't give a rat's ass if you insist on disbelief. people see what they see, and what exists exists - I don't need you to validate it for me. I'm not trying to prove anything scientifically. I'm just answering the question posed in the thread. people who disbelieve in the spiritual are just about as intellectually intimidating as the other end of the spectrum (creationists and UFOlogists and the like...)

and for the record, a poltergeist is not an image. a poltergeist is shit flying around, doors opening and closing - electronics going nuts or operating without power, voices, shit breaking - poltergeists leave messes and bruises. you don't halluncinate a poltergeist. the fact that those happen puts spiritual reality beyond a shadow of a doubt for me - you'd have better luck convincing me the earth was flat - and about as much chance of me arguing with you over it.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/Dragonkirby/Non-Kirby/Nekomoon.png

Clearly a ghost in the TV static.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/Dragonkirby/Non-Kirby/Nekomoon.png

Clearly a ghost in the TV static.

for some reason this reminds me of the rock paintings from "the lion king"

lol, I don't give a rat's ass if you insist on disbelief. people see what they see, and what exists exists - I don't need you to validate it for me. I'm not trying to prove anything scientifically. I'm just answering the question posed in the thread. people who disbelieve in the spiritual are just about as intellectually intimidating as the other end of the spectrum (creationists and UFOlogists and the like...)

and for the record, a poltergeist is not an image. a poltergeist is shit flying around, doors opening and closing - electronics going nuts or operating without power, voices, shit breaking - poltergeists leave messes and bruises. you don't halluncinate a poltergeist. the fact that those happen puts spiritual reality beyond a shadow of a doubt for me - you'd have better luck convincing me the earth was flat - and about as much chance of me arguing with you over it.

Your earlier posts were indicating that is a fact that these things happen. Whereas the truth is that you believe it to happen, correctly or incorrectly, but it is still a belief in the same way any religious issue is. I would only be convinced of the existence of the spiritual if an actual event happened to me, although I would still be sceptical due to my understanding of physics (limited as it is).

Is there actually meant to be something in there? I see a dragon squatting on all fours, looking back down it's body with it's tail curving upwards. (No doubt some psychoanalyst could now tell me something about myself based on that).

As for ghosts - if I have seen one, I haven't recognized it for what it was :)

My girlfriend's father has an interesting tale from his time as a night security guard though...

Your earlier posts were indicating that is a fact that these things happen. Whereas the truth is that you believe it to happen, correctly or incorrectly, but it is still a belief in the same way any religious issue is. I would only be convinced of the existence of the spiritual if an actual event happened to me, although I would still be sceptical due to my understanding of physics (limited as it is).

I respect that. I don't believe in anything I haven't seen. I started out a strict atheist, and I sought to systematically disprove religion. unfortunately for me, upon further investigation, the occult turned out to be real. oops. I could offer you my amatuer opinions as a physicist, but I really don't care if you believe one way or the other. so long as you accept I haven't accepted a bunch of bullshit I was spoonfed - that I've approached this with a skeptical mind and actually been convinced, then that's cool. even if you don't...this is a pointless internet argument about something that will or will not exist regaurdless of what people believe about it.

I have to say, though ,that people are alot more likely to talk openly about seeing ghosts and stuff if they know you're not going to think they're crazy. not 30 minutes ago a guest at the hotel I work at (it's pushing 100 years old, and definately haunted - you can see them walking around all the time) said that he'd seen ghosts all over the hotel. he was a bit freaked out, actually. some people are naturally more sensitive to this than others, just like some people have perfect pitch and some people are good at sports. I know it seems to be anti-scientific, but you're asking me to give a scientific explanation for things I see all the time, for things others see all the time (I don't know of anyone who shares the same hallucination - or again, of hallucinations that leave bruises). I could, if I *really* wanted to, get a bunch of people together to testify that yes, I have learned things I couldn't possibly know from spirits, that yes they definately exist...but that's like asking my friends to get together and testify the sky is blue to a skeptic. we have better things to do - and agree or not, most people believe in this shit...we don't really care about proving ourselves to the minority of skeptics.

as an aside, you know how people are always asking "why don't psychics ever win the lottery?" - the friend who taught me some things about this actually did win the lottery. I could show you newspaper clippings...but they're in dutch (she's from the netherlands antilles). the phone line was struck by lightning while she was using it, shortly thereafter, and she was nearly killed. the lottery thing doesn't happen because its' "against the rules"...and don't ask me who makes those.

Is there actually meant to be something in there? I see a dragon squatting on all fours, looking back down it's body with it's tail curving upwards. (No doubt some psychoanalyst could now tell me something about myself based on that).

Uh, not really. We could make a topic on it.

I am one. How about that.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h153/IlieNS/photos%20of%20me/bookescapeghost.jpg

Not a scene one but a gal from West Virginia says she has relatives that live near the Shenandoah.

She said as a girl she always had dreams about a confederate soldier watching her when she slept.

Years later she thought it was simply a child's mind at work until she and her finance went to visit. The next morning she said he told her he had a weird dream about a confederate soldier watching them sleep.

I said yea right. You told him. She said Nope.....

Cosplaying Stalker?

I do not believe they exist, simply they are the product of the persons' minds.

You want an insight into my twisted mind? As a child I used to wake up and see this thing staring at me from across the room.

http://dpnow.com/archives/energiser.jpg

It was an odd childhood to say the least.

Yes this is a copycat thread from Anyone ever seen a UFO? :D

So, has anyone ever seen a ghost, either with the naked eye, or with a video or film camera? I have never seen a ghost myself, but one time I was laying in bed, and I heard this sound of someone running, all the sudden the living room lights, dining room lights, kitchen lights, and both stairs lights turned on. Also, ever since my Siamese cat Sara died, my door refuse to remain shut. It tends to open up every once in awhile. Also, my mom now feels a cat laying on her at night, even though our 8 months old Siamese Amelia sleeps with me. So, has anyone here ever seen a ghost or had any experience with a ghost?

once I and three friends were camping in the mountains on Maui, the site was a boy scout camp site with many "rumored" ghost hauntings tied to it. (everything from the "Night Marchers" to the "White Lady" are reported to have paths that criss cross the campsite (it's a rather large camping area, 5 areas with cabins, a large meeting hall, medical cabin, office, Rifle range, swimming pool, and a Cafeteria.) we were there off season so practically everything was closed.

anyway, one night, I brought out my tape recorder, opened a new cassette tape (removed the wrapping so it wasn't used) and the four of us were just talking, telling jokes, etc...

the next day, we played back the tape and each one of us sat in silence as we heard 5 voices on the tape. softly in the background, a fifth voice was heard chanting an old Hawaiian chant, no music, no pauses, straight chanting.

Needless to say... we took the tape out and buried it under the cabin.

I've never seen a ghost or a UFO. But that's only becuase they don't exist unless our minds decide they do. Honestly, I cringe at the amount of time and money spent on topics like this IRL.

Nope. And I don't plan to, thank you very much! :)

Yes I have * casts mind back....*

I was just getting ready for my morning bike ride like I usually do, you knoiw checking the bike and all. Just as I got up from checking the chain I looked up and I saw a little boy. He was dressed in Victorian clothing and he stared at me. The suddenly he started screaming and ran at me. Needless to say I was scared, just when he was going to hit he disappeared and a blast of cold air hit me.

Another time I was watching tv and suddenly that went off thenon again and off..for five minutes then the lights started doing it. And sometimes at night I get the feeling I'm being watched...

I respect that. I don't believe in anything I haven't seen. I started out a strict atheist, and I sought to systematically disprove religion. unfortunately for me, upon further investigation, the occult turned out to be real. oops. I could offer you my amatuer opinions as a physicist, but I really don't care if you believe one way or the other. so long as you accept I haven't accepted a bunch of bullshit I was spoonfed - that I've approached this with a skeptical mind and actually been convinced, then that's cool. even if you don't...this is a pointless internet argument about something that will or will not exist regaurdless of what people believe about it.

I have to say, though ,that people are alot more likely to talk openly about seeing ghosts and stuff if they know you're not going to think they're crazy. not 30 minutes ago a guest at the hotel I work at (it's pushing 100 years old, and definately haunted - you can see them walking around all the time) said that he'd seen ghosts all over the hotel. he was a bit freaked out, actually. some people are naturally more sensitive to this than others, just like some people have perfect pitch and some people are good at sports. I know it seems to be anti-scientific, but you're asking me to give a scientific explanation for things I see all the time, for things others see all the time (I don't know of anyone who shares the same hallucination - or again, of hallucinations that leave bruises). I could, if I *really* wanted to, get a bunch of people together to testify that yes, I have learned things I couldn't possibly know from spirits, that yes they definately exist...but that's like asking my friends to get together and testify the sky is blue to a skeptic. we have better things to do - and agree or not, most people believe in this shit...we don't really care about proving ourselves to the minority of skeptics.

as an aside, you know how people are always asking "why don't psychics ever win the lottery?" - the friend who taught me some things about this actually did win the lottery. I could show you newspaper clippings...but they're in dutch (she's from the netherlands antilles). the phone line was struck by lightning while she was using it, shortly thereafter, and she was nearly killed. the lottery thing doesn't happen because its' "against the rules"...and don't ask me who makes those.

I can agree with alot of what you say and respect your viewpoint, I certainly don't consider you crazy, in the same way I don't consider a Christian crazy, but I kind of object to the sentence including 'most people'. I've never met anyone who has said they see ghosts nor seen a study with relevant statistics, but in saying that, would you tell others about it? Its hardly a common subject, unlike religion which gets far more attention than it really deserves.

hahaha - I meant where she came from, how she lost her head, etc - your interaction with her was rather amusing, though. there are some rather talented....species, for lack of a better term, that read minds and such. it might have just pulled that out of your head at random to scare the shit out of you. on that level things can feed off of emotions - there are lots of parasites out there, and most people have natural sorts of spiritual immune-systems that protect them, but some folks (really bad drug users, drunks, and the like) compromise them so badly they get in. I've seen posession...it's not pretty. there are friendly, wonderful little creatures bouncing around out there too - but just as many frightening or actually dangerous ones. but yeah - that could either have been an actual confused dead person, or something that fed off fear and happened to float on by you and notice you were susceptable. or maybe you have a *very* active imagination...but I've never heard of people conjuring up images that powerful...particularly that have nothing to do with the book (I don't recall any headless brides in the hound of the baskervilles)



explain poltergeists and visions in terms of overactive imaginations. I've encoutered things that have told me verifiable facts I didn't know before I met them - that were later answered by others. I know dozens of people who tell stories not of just seeing them, but interacting with them. one girl confessed she used to talk to one that would answer her by flicking the lights on and off in her room. once I was frank about my experiences with another person, and a girl who was listening in suddenly burst out "I WASN'T CRAZY!!!!" in shock, when I described things she'd seen for years but never believed in. the vast majority of people believe in these things - many of them have experienced things with tangible, physical results that can't be wished away by calling it imagination or hullucination.

How could a ghost read your mind? They are spirits of dead humans/animals.

What creatures are you talking about. You are probably just making those up.

once I and three friends were camping in the mountains on Maui, the site was a boy scout camp site with many "rumored" ghost hauntings tied to it. (everything from the "Night Marchers" to the "White Lady" are reported to have paths that criss cross the campsite (it's a rather large camping area, 5 areas with cabins, a large meeting hall, medical cabin, office, Rifle range, swimming pool, and a Cafeteria.) we were there off season so practically everything was closed.

anyway, one night, I brought out my tape recorder, opened a new cassette tape (removed the wrapping so it wasn't used) and the four of us were just talking, telling jokes, etc...

the next day, we played back the tape and each one of us sat in silence as we heard 5 voices on the tape. softly in the background, a fifth voice was heard chanting an old Hawaiian chant, no music, no pauses, straight chanting.

Needless to say... we took the tape out and buried it under the cabin.

Night Marchers! :eek: My friend from Maui told me about them.

He also said if you heard drums you have to strip naked and beg for forgiveness. :p

Why did you bury the tape? That would have been good evidence.

Sometimes I wonder why the person's ghost are still here. There's been many theories about it.

1. Sometimes they are tied to a place, like if the person had a violence death, and they can't rest because of it.

2. They are tied to a place or object that has some meaning to them while they are alive. I know if I died, I would probably haunt my airport. :D

3. They have some unfinished business that they need the living to assist them in before they can move on.

4. There are hauntings that are "recorded" hauntings. These hauntings is when the ghost does the same thing, at the same time, on the same day etc. The ghost has no consciousness and doesn't pay attention to it's surrounding, it just does the same thing over and over.

5. Poltergeist hauntings, there is alot unexplained about Poltergeists, all we know is that they like to make a bunch of noise, throw stuff around, sometimes attack the living, Poltergeist means noisy ghost.

6. Sometimes they just like to mess with us. :D