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Am I the only one who doesn't like Superman? I mean comon, the guy is basically invincible, except when confronted with radioactive rock, which apparently everyone in Metroville (or wherever he lives) seem to have a boat load of! I swear, you look through these Superman comics, it seems like everyone has kryponite, and if that's the case, then why would Superman stay there? Talk about a death wish.

Now Batman rocks, and so does the X-Men.

What Superheros do you hate?

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To be honest, I only hate the really retarded ones.

the "so overpowered that you know nothing will never happen to them" superheroes are kinda boring.


my favorites are Gambit and Nightcrawler (kinda disappointed that Gambit wasn't in the movies, though)

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To be honest, I only hate the really retarded ones.

the "so overpowered that you know nothing will never happen to them" superheroes are kinda boring.


my favorites are Gambit and Nightcrawler (kinda disappointed that Gambit wasn't in the movies, though)

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I like neither Batman nor Superman.

Superman for the aforementioned reasons, primarily, and due to the fact that he's practically the "hero archetype." He doesn't seem to have any internal conflict, hidden past, etc. that would make the character interesting to watch/read about. Also, his "disguise" is stupid, as is everybody around him who's ever seen the two and not made the connection.

I don't like batman because, in any incarnation I've seen him in, he strikes me as personality-less.

Other then that, There's no superheros I particularly dislike.

Yeah, Superman. He's a dick.

I wonder if you can chop Superman's head off with an axe.

I wonder if you can chop Superman's head off with an axe.

It'd have to be made out of Kryptonite.

As far as Superman goes, sure, he's only weak to a thing that he seems to grow immune to during exposure (Anybody here ever try to hoist a continent made out of Kryptonite?) But the whole internal conflict does exist. Read the Infinite Crisis series.

Personal favourite superhero: Doc. Strange.

It'd have to be made out of Kryptonite.

As far as Superman goes, sure, he's only weak to a thing that he seems to grow immune to during exposure (Anybody here ever try to hoist a continent made out of Kryptonite?) But the whole internal conflict does exist. Read the Infinite Crisis series.

Personal favourite superhero: Doc. Strange.

Why would Superman stay in a town where apparently everyone can get their hand on Kryptonite?

Why would Superman stay in a town where apparently everyone can get their hand on Kryptonite?

It's not just the town. Superman could fly off to another planet fifty galaxies away and they'd still not only have kryptonite, but figure out to use it on him.

It's not just the town. Superman could fly off to another planet fifty galaxies away and they'd still not only have kryptonite, but figure out to use it on him.

Apparently someone discovered an endless quarry filled with Kryptonite and is making a very comfortable living.

The only other superhero who i have a problem with (More than with superman, as superman is just too damn Iconic, with not enough character) Is Aquaman (http://www.seanbaby.com/superfriends/aquaman.htm)

He even makes Hawkman look good.

Wolverine. We get it. You're Rambo.

Superman for me too. His powers are infinite and completely random. The "new" powers he pulls out of his ass in some strips just aggravates me. That, and at if you have so many uncanny powers...Why do you often forget? He seems to not realize he's a superhero sometimes. I also tend to find most anime characters pointlessly overpowered and frequently designed more to be "cool" than actually deep. One of the many reasons I frequently deride the genre

One of my favorite heros is Gambit of the Xmen. I kind of like the Xmen in general, and the odd consistency it finds even after so many changes. I like some of the Batman angles- but they seem to always find flop on either side of a line between completely lacking personality to flat-out emo.

That Mind-Reading Cop from the NBC show "Heroes". So. Damn. Annoying. So. Damn. Emo. :headbang:

That Mind-Reading Cop from the NBC show "Heroes". So. Damn. Annoying. So. Damn. Emo. :headbang:

QFT. :sniper:

IAlso, his "disguise" is stupid, as is everybody around him who's ever seen the two and not made the connection.

That has become true of so many superheroes it's become a cliche in and of itself. You can spot that in anything. Hell, even the Japanese anime version of the PowerPuff Girls has the girls(now transforming, 13-year old heroines instead of 5 year old spice girls) looking exactly the same except for the difference in clothing.

I'm kinda partial to Spider-Man - is he good with you guys?

I'm kinda partial to Spider-Man - is he good with you guys?

He's only cool when he's not using the concept of web cartridges. I hated that.

I'm kinda partial to Spider-Man - is he good with you guys?

Eh his non super hero persona is a little too wimpy for my taste. Jeez grow some balls man.

The movies fucked Peter Parker up. He wasn't supposed to be a voice cracking uber-nerd little bitch. Just because you know alot about physics doesn't mean your balls won't have dropped yet.

he's also ment to make almost non-stop wisecracks, interspersed with somewhat meaningless babble and "oww...." mixed in with random almost public service anouncements and so on while fighting people :D

... wasn't enough of that in the movies. it's part of what makes spidey awsome.

The Hulk, for sure - what a colossal bore.

"Hulk no like! Hulk smash!" - lather, rinse, repeat.

Tough call between Green Lantern and Aquaman.
Green Lantern's one weakness was the color yellow. At least Supes had a (what was supposed to be) rare weakness. A child could beat the crap out of GL with a banana.
And then there's Aquaman. The guy who can *drumroll* talk to fish. I have nothing against him for being gay, however. :D

eAs for favorite, another tossup: Wolverine and Rogue.
Wolverine doesn't even need his powers to be a badass. He doesn't even need his adamantium skeleton (and his claws are NOT natural!). He makes up for both in attitude and skill in hand to hand combat. Plus, losing his powers wouldn't make him lose his peak human physical strength automatically.
Also, his memory loss makes him a tragic figure.

Rogue is much the same way. Even without her powers, she has access to the martial arts training of Carol Danvers - and in fact that personality would take control in such otherwise helpless situations, and she had such a strong personality that she's the only one ever to be permanently absorbed.
And again, tragic figure.

The Hulk.
Superman.
Green Lantern.
Iron Man, He is a ....!

he's also ment to make almost non-stop wisecracks, interspersed with somewhat meaningless babble and "oww...." mixed in with random almost public service anouncements and so on while fighting people :D

One quote I remember from reading one of the books while he was fighting Hobgoblin "So now it's just plain theft? Geez, you're mother must be embarrased. Wait, did you have a mother?"

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and Walrus Man!

.... yes, for once the whole "laugh themselves to death" attack style actually has an effect.

i'm sorley tempted to claime "walrus man" as my least faverout.. but his mear existance is too humerous.

... humm...

Super man always struck me as stupid, but he's been done to death... other non-fav super type beings...

never did like cyclops much.

Tough call between Green Lantern and Aquaman.
Green Lantern's one weakness was the color yellow. At least Supes had a (what was supposed to be) rare weakness. A child could beat the crap out of GL with a banana.
And then there's Aquaman. The guy who can *drumroll* talk to fish. I have nothing against him for being gay, however. :D

eAs for favorite, another tossup: Wolverine and Rogue.
Wolverine doesn't even need his powers to be a badass. He doesn't even need his adamantium skeleton (and his claws are NOT natural!). He makes up for both in attitude and skill in hand to hand combat. Plus, losing his powers wouldn't make him lose his peak human physical strength automatically.
Also, his memory loss makes him a tragic figure.

Rogue is much the same way. Even without her powers, she has access to the martial arts training of Carol Danvers - and in fact that personality would take control in such otherwise helpless situations, and she had such a strong personality that she's the only one ever to be permanently absorbed.
And again, tragic figure.


Its been awhile since I read the comics but I think his weakness was a yellow ring not the color yellow. A ring that was like his ring.

The Punisher. An ugly guy with a bad temper, a tragic loss and lots of ammo. Sounds like a postal worker to me. :p

Iron Man. Tony Stark is a rich elitist bastard. Always was, always will be. He's like Batman without guts. *bleah*

The Fantastic Four. Why the fuck do these losers have their own comic book, and Doctor Strange doesn't? *sigh*

The Punisher. An ugly guy with a bad temper, a tragic loss and lots of ammo. Sounds like a postal worker to me. :p

Iron Man. Tony Stark is a rich elitist bastard. Always was, always will be. He's like Batman without guts. *bleah*

The Fantastic Four. Why the fuck do these losers have their own comic book, and Doctor Strange doesn't? *sigh*

They stopped making a Doctor Strange comic? :(

I can't think of anybody I hate right now.

I love Spider-man though.

The Wonder twins

*shudder*

The biggest flaw I could see with Superman is that he is vunrable to Kryptonite. Which is fragments of his home planet where everyone else like him lived. Does no one else see the flaw in that...?

The biggest flaw I could see with Superman is that he is vunrable to Kryptonite. Which is fragments of his home planet where everyone else like him lived. Does no one else see the flaw in that...?
That's because the kryptonite was exposed to our sun, just like Superman got his powers.

The biggest flaw I could see with Superman is that he is vunrable to Kryptonite. Which is fragments of his home planet where everyone else like him lived. Does no one else see the flaw in that...?
That's because Superman is a huge ass and just wanted an excuse to take extended vacations, so he picked one of the most common elements on Earth and made up some bull shit story about it sapping his power, and got to become more acquainted with his couch and TV while all Hell broke loose elsewhere.
Regretfully, some people actually took him seriously on it, and started trying to attack him with the stuff; so now he has to either pretend to suffer serious harm every time someone waves a green rock at him, or admit to being a huge ass.

Yeah, Superman annoys me as well. He'd be cooler if he were a Nietzschean übermensch (then again, perhaps that explains some instances of superdickery from that site). And yes, I love the website www.superdickery.com, I go there frequently.

I actually like Superman...*hides*

I used to like Batman because he wasn't like Superman, he could be hurt, however, lately he is pretty boring (see in the last 10 years or so)

I don't like Wonder Woman I think she is lame.

I don't like Green Lantern.

I don't like The Thing.

I don't like The X-men, could never get into the whole story.

I love Spiderman, but that's not what this thread is about....

They stopped making a Doctor Strange comic? :(


Since 1999. He's appeared in other comics more than his own. In fact, he went about 30 years without his own comic.

From Marvel:

The Hulk (as I mentioned last night)

Hawkeye

Mr. Fantastic

Cyclops

The Punisher

Ms. Marvel

Giant-Man

The Angel


From DC:

All of 'em.

he's also ment to make almost non-stop wisecracks, interspersed with somewhat meaningless babble and "oww...." mixed in with random almost public service anouncements and so on while fighting people :D

... wasn't enough of that in the movies. it's part of what makes spidey awsome.

Yeah, the best thing about spiderman was his spiderhumour.

Am I the only one who doesn't like Superman? I mean comon, the guy is basically invincible, except when confronted with radioactive rock, which apparently everyone in Metroville (or wherever he lives) seem to have a boat load of! I swear, you look through these Superman comics, it seems like everyone has kryponite, and if that's the case, then why would Superman stay there? Talk about a death wish.

Now Batman rocks, and so does the X-Men.

What Superheros do you hate?
I hate most DC heros.

Superman verson 1: can leap (not fly) hard to hurt (not invulerable) Telescopic vision (not x-ray or microscopic)

Superman verson 2: Invulerable, can fly, super vision/breath/hearing/taste/touch, can only be hurt by Kryptonite and Magic.

Superman Ver 2.5: increase the amount of Kryponite on earth so that you can have people like Metallo who offers a challange to superman... oh and make various types of kryptonite with varous affects (how do they know that Gold Kryptonite permanemtly removes his powers?)

Superman Ver 2.7: too much Kryptonite.. Lex has a K-ring, villians using K-armor... so let's make Kryptonite poisonous to Humans... Prolonged exposure gives them incurable cancer...

Superman Ver 2.8: he needs his parents back... *poof* Ma and Pa Kent are alive!

Superman Ver 3: We know that he gets his powers from the Yellow sun and Earth's lower Gravity... now after Doomsday, HE's SOLAR POWERED. prolonged sheilding from the sun's rays means he weakens!

Superman Ver 3.5: they (the writers) reseeded the planet with a ton of kryptonite (World's Finest Graphic Novel)

and let's not forget the fact that they "wrote out" Superboy, Super Baby, and all the super animals, the bottle city of Kandor... and since his cousin is dead...

Marvel? I can't stand Capt. America.

his ego is as big as superman's.

All DC heros suck a$$ especially superman, he can turn back time by flying fast. WTF.....they need to make a DC vs. Marvel 3d fighter, that would be sick.

Marvel? I can't stand Capt. America.

his ego is as big as superman's.

Though you must admit, Cap's weakness - being a man out of time, disconnected from the world around him - is a bit more novel than exposure to convenient lumps of rock.

This is by far the worst super hero:
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capeuro.jpg
it's captain euro.

The reasons why he is the worst is:

1) He's named after a currency. whats next? Dollar Dude? Sir Swilla?
2) He has no real superpowers. just speaks a few languages.
3) He looks like propaganda. He sounds like propaganda. He even smells like propaganda. see for yourself (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capeuro.htm).


PS: the link is NOT to this horrible superhero's website.

TIME CUBE!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/TimeCube.jpg

"Opposites ARE NOT entities. Earth nor human equal entity. Male-female = zero existence, as in 2 opposite hemispheres. Male + female cancel each other out. Apply analytical math to Earth sphere and discover 2 opposite hemispheres rotating in opposite directions - equal to a ZERO value existence! Earth is not an entity, for adding the opposite values cancel each other to no existence."

- "Doctor" Gene Ray, creator of TIME CUBE!

TIME CUBE, brainchild of the infamous "Doctor" Gene Ray, is the living embodiment of Ray's controversial theory of Cubic Time. Through the means of his surgically-engineered, 4-cornered Cubic Time transceptors, TIME CUBE is in constant contact with his mindful creator, who while watching over his heroic exploits with active interest, nonetheless allows TIME CUBE a life all his own. It's hard to quantify TIME CUBE; the difficulty lies in knowing where he starts and Gene Ray stops.

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Captain Planet.

Best superhero. Ever.

Least favorite superhero? Does the planeteer whose power was "Heart" count? What a lame power...

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sportacus.htm

Captain Planet.

Best superhero. Ever.

Least favorite superhero? Does the planeteer whose power was "Heart" count? What a lame power...

CAPTAAAAAAAAAAAIN PLAAAAAAAAAANET!


...Sorry. Ted Turner is just plain nutty, so I had to do that. :p

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sportacus.htm

Who the fuck comes up with this shit...?

This is by far the worst super hero:
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capeuro.jpg
it's captain euro.

The reasons why he is the worst is:

1) He's named after a currency. whats next? Dollar Dude? Sir Swilla?
2) He has no real superpowers. just speaks a few languages.
3) He looks like propaganda. He sounds like propaganda. He even smells like propaganda. see for yourself (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capeuro.htm).


PS: the link is NOT to this horrible superhero's website.

I thought he had a bionic knee or something?

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sportacus.htm


Have to agree with that

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/200px-Freedom_Fighters_1.jpg

The Human Bomb

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Bomb#Andy_Franklin

I thought he had a bionic knee or something?

says nothing about that there.

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sportacus.htm

Sportacus pwns all

We need a GREEN HORNET movie! :D

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sportacus.htm
I know. the whole list should be called Crappy Heroes from around the world (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/r/restwrld.htm)

my favorites are Gambit and Nightcrawler (kinda disappointed that Gambit wasn't in the movies, though)


Dude, you are a god

I hate Wolverine, so over-rated, but also Cyclops cos they said they wouldn't inculde Gambit in the movies so long as they had Cyclops, guess things are looking for for the 4th film :P

Nightcrawler is definantly the best! ^_^

Some of the Xmen I dont like. Wolverine is cool, but scott and some of the others, not so much.

Some of the Xmen I dont like. Wolverine is cool, but scott and some of the others, not so much.

As far as the Xmen comics went, I never particularly bought into the Angel. And Cyclops was always too damn stiff for my liking. Oh, and Kitty Pryde was less-than-enthusing.

But I didn't much like the pious overhaul they undertook on Nightcrawler at some point either - I'll prefer to remember him as the nightclubbing Disco-era mutant on the prowl.

I know. the whole list should be called Crappy Heroes from around the world (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/r/restwrld.htm)

Feckers, Cúchulainn kicked arse.

Feckers, Cúchulainn kicked arse.

yeag, but most of the heroes listed there suck.

Am I the only one who doesn't like Superman? I mean comon, the guy is basically invincible, except when confronted with radioactive rock, which apparently everyone in Metroville (or wherever he lives) seem to have a boat load of! I swear, you look through these Superman comics, it seems like everyone has kryponite, and if that's the case, then why would Superman stay there? Talk about a death wish.

Now Batman rocks, and so does the X-Men.

What Superheros do you hate?

Well, Superman has had ebbs and flows in his power. It got crazy for a while in that he could blow out a star like a matchstick (with what I don't know, since there isn't any air for him to blow, and all that you would be likely to do if you could apply that sort of force to a star would be to cause it to move) but then he got retconned down. I remember in the 80's it was established that he would not be able to travel through time by flying around the world, he would be bulletproof and hard to hurt, but still succeptible to the heaviest of modern artillery, to say nothing of nuclear weapons.

But I was 9 at the time, and thought that weakining Superman sucked. That's why it got so crazy in the first place. There was no place for a discerning reader in comics. That's why they introduced sidekicks. As Stan Lee says his boss told him. "We only write comics for kids, and a few illiterate adults."

They even retconned him down in the Superman Returns movie. In Superman IV he still had that "touch telekenisis," by which he could hold the Statue of Liberty by the torch with out it snapping off. In Superman Returns he nearly trashed that plane he was trying to save.

But I agree with your complaint about too-powerful heroes. That's why I never liked Xena. Well, that and that all the "action scenes" were very, very bad rip-offs of Jet-Li movies. Two from just "The Legend" were the scene in the first episode where she fought standing on a scafolding and then on people's shoulders, and a later episode in which the red-head swung a burning piece of rope in a predictable figure-8 while soldiers ran at her and died. When the villains are so overpowered by the hero, there's no dramatic tension. It's like watching a cooking show without the anticipation of a good meal. Just meat being fed to a blender.

I wanna see a comic about this guy. (http://www.w00tradio.net/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=59&page=view&catid=14&PageNo=1&key=6&hit=1)

We need a GREEN HORNET movie! :D

I thought I read that Kevin Smith was making one. I don't normally like changing original comic characters for the general audience, but I'd love to see a Green Hornet movie in which Jet-Li played Kato, but Kato wansn't the frickin' butler.

I thought I read that Kevin Smith was making one. I don't normally like changing original comic characters for the general audience, but I'd love to see a Green Hornet movie in which Jet-Li played Kato, but Kato wansn't the frickin' butler.

OMG! You are absolutly right!! TYVM ND!!! :) I googled "Kevin Smith Green Hornet" and got a bunch of links!
Looks like George Clooney and Jet-Li are the front runners! (nothing definite yet though)

I think Kato's butler roll is kind of cool because Kato usually has to rescue the Hornet. Making him the real hero and disguising him as nothing more than a humble servant. (kind of like Steven Segal in "Under Siege" where he tells everyone he's "just a lowly cook") :D

OMG! You are absolutly right!! TYVM ND!!! :) I googled "Kevin Smith Green Hornet" and got a bunch of links!
Looks like George Clooney and Jet-Li are the front runners! (nothing definite yet though)

I think Kato's butler roll is kind of cool because Kato usually has to rescue the Hornet. Making him the real hero and disguising him as nothing more than a humble servant. (kind of like Steven Segal in "Under Siege" where he tells everyone he's "just a lowly cook") :D

You know.. I was going to say "Played by George Clooney and Jet-Li," but then I thought about the fact that he played Batman. I have, however, learned to forgive him for that and Dusk til Dawn after watching Syriana and Goodnight and Goodluck.

But they're both DC. They shouldn't have him playing Green Hornet and Batman.

You know.. I was going to say "Played by George Clooney and Jet-Li," but then I thought about the fact that he played Batman. I have, however, learned to forgive him for that and Dusk til Dawn after watching Syriana and Goodnight and Goodluck.

But they're both DC. They shouldn't have him playing Green Hornet and Batman.

Yea! For the Britt Reed (Green Hornet) roll I would like:
Harvey Keitel Clive Owen, Mickey Rourke or Michael Madsen. (gotta have a lot of grit to be the Green Hornet)

I don't like The X-men, could never get into the whole story.


the later X-men... yeah... but I like the earlier stuff. where they could have a whole issues devoted to a softball game, telling Illiyana a story, or Someone's birthday... no villians, no fighting, just them being what they are. A family.

Though you must admit, Cap's weakness - being a man out of time, disconnected from the world around him - is a bit more novel than exposure to convenient lumps of rock.at first, but later on he became so full of it. The way he ran the Avengers, how he treated other heros... uggh... Thunderstrike, a hero who didn't want to be a hero was constantly treated as a teenage sidekick by Cap.

the only way they could correct it was redoing his story. (Ultimates)

Since 1999. He's appeared in other comics more than his own. In fact, he went about 30 years without his own comic.

But they're making an animated Dr Strange movie.

His DC counterpoint would be Dr. Fate, who I'd like to see a TV show about as a spin off with Alison Mack's character from Smallville.

Biggest dicks in superhero history:

Superman
Cyclops

Worst "hero"
Hulk

at first, but later on he became so full of it. The way he ran the Avengers, how he treated other heros... uggh... Thunderstrike, a hero who didn't want to be a hero was constantly treated as a teenage sidekick by Cap.

the only way they could correct it was redoing his story. (Ultimates)

But how he was full of it - and how he ran the Avengers is part & parcel of being a man outside his own native era (or could be construed as such). I agree with you as far as retelling the story - I found him to be a far more compelling character in the Ultimates than the old Marvel Cap ever was.

But they're making an animated Dr Strange movie.

That's almost unfortunate - earlier this year I read Michael J. Straczynski's "Strange", retelling the Dr. Strange story - and it was brilliant. I'd found myself wistfully hoping for a big-screen treatment. George Takei'd make an ideal Ancient One.

and let's not forget the fact that they "wrote out" Superboy, Super Baby, and all the super animals, the bottle city of Kandor... and since his cousin is dead...

Thanks for reminding me about superboy, baby, animals. I hate them too. It's like the writers had a collective orgasm of pure stupid.

Only one I really like is batman. He's not mystical, he has no cosmic powers, he's not from another planet. He's just a normal dude (in the most basic of ways.)

Superhero I Hate:
Jubilee

Wow. You shoot starbursts at people. Somebody attack her with a power that's decent, please. Wolverine? Cyclops? Magneto? Juggernaught? Mysterio? Hello, anybody?

Favourite super-character:
Hyperstorm, before he got all disillusioned. Infinite power. 'Course, he has to get tricked by Grampa Reed into becoming the source of food for Galactus.
Dr. Strange. But no, they cancel his series.
Hal Jordan, after he enters the Central Battery, and emerges even more powerful.
Captain Marvel (DC: SHAZAM!), but without the Marvel family. That was just getting a little wank.

I never got into heroes as a kid, but I absolutely loath the Hulk, I hate animalistic rage shite. I like batman the best, hes super because of his brain and the technology he creates with it, not because of some cosmic accident, or radiation, or any other of that bullshit.

My favorite as a kid was Batman

As long as we're on the subject:
Best fight (though it was rather one sided) ever - Superman vs Captain Marvel in a graphic novel. Marvel nearly killed him. Kryptonite? Ha! Supe's biggest weakness is his compassion.

But how he was full of it - and how he ran the Avengers is part & parcel of being a man outside his own native era (or could be construed as such). I agree with you as far as retelling the story - I found him to be a far more compelling character in the Ultimates than the old Marvel Cap ever was.
take the X-Men vs Magneto story arc.

Cap testified that Magneto sank a sub with all hands onboard (true, but forgot to mention that the sub did fire a nuclear missile at Magneto FIRST) tortured civilians (true). and stated that Magneto has not changed one bit.

but he conviently forgot to mention that Magneto sheilded all of them from the explosives he planted to destroy his base (To prevent technology from being used by others), seperated himself from others so that they wouldn't be involved, protected a village from Galactus while the Avengers (Cap included) went off on their mission of Revenge (Secret Wars) and even fought along side Cap and the Avengers against the empowered Dr. Doom , turned himself in not once but twice to the World court to be judged (once was in the X-Men that ended with the Fenris Twins attacking the court and Magneto helped defend the court and the second was him turning himself over to Captain America in that same miniseries) all those things the 'Old' Magneto would not have done. (and I am not including the other things that Cap would'nt have known about. Like Magneto helping to defend the Morlocks from the Mauraders... etc)

As I said, he treated Thunderstrike with respect only after Thunderstrike whupped cap's ass. (Thuderstrike sacrificed himself to prevent his possessed self from destroying the city.)

and the non ultimates Cap did adjust to his new time, so his attitude was all him.

in the Marvel vs DC contest... he was one of the few marvell heros I voted against.

Superhero I Hate:
Jubilee

Wow. You shoot starbursts at people. Somebody attack her with a power that's decent, please. Wolverine? Cyclops? Magneto? Juggernaught? Mysterio? Hello, anybody?

Favourite super-character:
Hyperstorm, before he got all disillusioned. Infinite power. 'Course, he has to get tricked by Grampa Reed into becoming the source of food for Galactus.
Dr. Strange. But no, they cancel his series.
Hal Jordan, after he enters the Central Battery, and emerges even more powerful.
Captain Marvel (DC: SHAZAM!), but without the Marvel family. That was just getting a little wank.

Mysterio has to be one of the worst villains. He rules though. :p

Superhero I Hate:
Jubilee

by herself... yeah. but then so did boom-boom. untill her power grew up to include real plasma bombs.

I like the time Jubilee and Gambit worked together... can you say BIG BOOM!


Oh and DR Strange ran itself into the ground after running through all the known and mythical sources of magic. they should redo him but with a different person.

I don't really like Superman all that much myself. I am more of a Batman fan because he's cooler. What "superheroes" I do like are all human with no special powers, hence why both the Punisher and Batman are my favorite. They're just on a quest for vengeance and, in essence, they're criminals (vigilantism). I like that.

Mysterio has to be one of the worst villains. He rules though. :p

The worst was the Vulture.

I find Superman boring and without any real challange...

Superman- Oscillation Man, constantly wavering between god-like strength and nerd-like fragilety.
Martian Manhunter- Obnoxious Observer.
Wonder Woman- Feminazi.
Flash- Flirtle, he's faster than a turtle.

Anyone who can move at super speed should be able to stop a lot if not all of the crime in a city.

Why do nearly all superheroes stretch battles into block-busting 30 minute affairs? Seriously, if comics were real then they'd be doing millions in damage every fight because they always manage to wreck half a city. And then it's all back to normal the very next issue. And the science and myth are both so horribly mutilated!

The best superhero that never was and always will be is the Pirate Ninja. And the worst villain is the Leaping Leper.

The worst was the Vulture.

The Calculator, I think his name was. Had a giant calculator on his chest which he used to calculate his opponents next move.

The Calculator, I think his name was. Had a giant calculator on his chest which he used to calculate his opponents next move.

At least he had a power. The Vulture was a dying old man with a suit that let him fly and look stupid.

Ah, personaly I don't really dislike Superman, there is quite a bit of interesting things about the character, just look at It's a Bird that shows a lot of the symbolism involved. I also really don't get the whole thing that he's has personality or inner conflict, I haven't read much of the more recent Superman comics, but the concept seems to have fair bit of potential an alien raised human with god like power, personaly that seems like something that could be quite interesting looking at how they handle that. Sort of like this Batman quote from Wikipedia "In Superman/Batman, Batman thinks, "It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then...he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him." I mean personaly I think that is rather interesting, look at the Marvel's Hyperion to see a diferent version or for ones by DC either Red Son or True Brit. May be its because I'm looking at the abstract instead of what they also write. My main problem is the way DC keeps redoing the continuity(sp) it makes it hard to figure out what goes where if your just coming into the story. Marvel dosen't seem to have that problem as much with the main difficultyseeming to be getting all that background material, but even that is geting easier over the last few years they've been releasing cds with PDF versions of some of their title, I've got the X-Men one and it has the complete run of Uncanny X-Men from 1961 up to fall of 2005, thats got to be one of the best purchases I've ever made.

Superman- Oscillation Man, constantly wavering between god-like strength and nerd-like fragilety.
Martian Manhunter- Obnoxious Observer.
Wonder Woman- Feminazi.
Flash- Flirtle, he's faster than a turtle.

Anyone who can move at super speed should be able to stop a lot if not all of the crime in a city.

Why do nearly all superheroes stretch battles into block-busting 30 minute affairs? Seriously, if comics were real then they'd be doing millions in damage every fight because they always manage to wreck half a city. And then it's all back to normal the very next issue. And the science and myth are both so horribly mutilated!

The best superhero that never was and always will be is the Pirate Ninja. And the worst villain is the Leaping Leper.

Marvel answered this easy: The Insurance Industry!!

Seriously, they actually have plotlines developed around this:

1) Spider-man is accused by a disguised enemy of staging battles for companies to pad a bill, then he gets a kickback of the insurance payout.

2) One dude seeking to ascertain Spiderman's identity works for an insurer, his main job being to probe any claim to ensure its legitimacy.

3) Daredevil, in his alter ego of Matthew Murdock, brokered a million-dollar-a-year insurance policy for NYC just for damage to fire hydrants, w/o charging a legal (He attributed it to "Catholic Guilt").

Yarrr! My nemesis, the Leaping Leparrr has given me leprosy. I must die with honarrr! Harrri Karrri!!!

As much as I enjoy picking on Aquaman, I don't know how I left out this (http://jaypinkerton.cracked.com/2006/06/lose_the_fish.php).

Now Batman rocks, and so does the X-Men.

Except Cyclops. Oh, how I hate Cyclops. Freaking annoying.

My personal faves to hate are the "buttshot" women heroes (a.k.a. Psyloch etc.) and the fanboy jizz types, such as Cable, or U.S. Agent, or just about any Leifield character.

Comics really took a bad blow in th 90's because of guys like him. Thank Stan Lee for bringing things back to a more acceptable level with the new marvel movies. Due to him DC has followed suit, and remade their popular heroes into more complex, and interesing people, as well as super heroes.

At least he had a power. The Vulture was a dying old man with a suit that let him fly and look stupid.

The vulture always had awesome plots though.

Spawn is the best 'hero' I've seen thus far.

As long as we're on the subject:
Best fight (though it was rather one sided) ever - Superman vs Captain Marvel in a graphic novel. Marvel nearly killed him. Kryptonite? Ha! Supe's biggest weakness is his compassion.



Compassion is a strength not a weakness in my opinion.

I don't really like Superman all that much myself. I am more of a Batman fan because he's cooler. What "superheroes" I do like are all human with no special powers, hence why both the Punisher and Batman are my favorite. They're just on a quest for vengeance and, in essence, they're criminals (vigilantism). I like that.


I'll think Batman is cooler, because he is the Dark Knight!

Anyone who can move at super speed should be able to stop a lot if not all of the crime in a city.read "Kingdom Come (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come_%28comic_book%29)" Flash does just that.

Why do nearly all superheroes stretch battles into block-busting 30 minute affairs? Seriously, if comics were real then they'd be doing millions in damage every fight because they always manage to wreck half a city. And then it's all back to normal the very next issue. And the science and myth are both so horribly mutilated!

Marvel Presents... Damage Control! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damage_Control_(comics)) :D