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If this has been posted already..... oh well. If not have a good laugh from our troops to Kerry's Gaffe.

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http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006250.htm

(this link works for everyone)

*sigh*

I sometimes wonder if he isn't getting paid under the table by the GOP. Every time he opens his mouth, he certainly gives them ammo.

The man one made mistake while speaking. Let. It. Go.

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/

Do you see a "Kerryism" page? I don't think so.

It's nice to see somebody get a joke right. ;)

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You fail at the Internets.

Do you see a "Kerryism" page? I don't think so.which just goes to show no one pays attention to what Kerry says. :p

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You fail at the Internets.

sorry Fass but I guess you don't have permission.;)

*sigh*

I sometimes wonder if he isn't getting paid under the table by the GOP. Every time he opens his mouth, he certainly gives them ammo.

LOL, you know, I've wondered about how many votes swung from D to R this week. And how many disgusted Republicans realized that this guy might be in the majority party if they didn't go to the polls.

Kerry may be the best Republican campaigner, yet.

I do believe we have heard the last from Mr Kerry until after the elections.

Argh, I have never met a thread more deserving of the "Aw jeez, not this shit again" picture, can we please just let it drop?

*sigh*

I sometimes wonder if he isn't getting paid under the table by the GOP. Every time he opens his mouth, he certainly gives them ammo.

Was just thinking that the other day. This guy is a huge liability to his party. I heard a snip of a interview with Kerry that had the host telling him to shut his mouth because he was damaging the party. Was a lib host btw. Good stuff I tell ya. I hope he isn't still wondering why he lost in '04.

Was just thinking that the other day. This guy is a huge liability to his party. I heard a snip of a interview with Kerry that had the host telling him to shut his mouth because he was damaging the party. Was a lib host btw. Good stuff I tell ya. I hope he isn't still wondering why he lost in '04.

Yeah, it all makes you want to ask "Why the long face, John?"

The man one made mistake while speaking. Let. It. Go.

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/

Do you see a "Kerryism" page? I don't think so.

Didn't the swift boat guys dedicate a site to Kerry's ramblings?

sorry Fass but I guess you don't have permission.;)

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Didn't the swift boat guys dedicate a site to Kerry's ramblings?

Possibly, but they aren't exactly world-renowned for accurately representing past occurrences.

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I'm really, really, really, really beginning to get annoyed by the petty bickering of American politics.

I've never seen so much crap on issues so trivial in any other country.

*ugh*

Possibly, but they aren't exactly world-renowned for accurately representing past occurrences.

Well I believe the actual audio of Kerry is proof enough. For the eye witness stuff well who's to say. But I was specifically mentioning the ramblings of past speeches he made against the military. I have heard a large number to convince me of this guy. I would believe this guy won't have a chance in hell to run again for pres. Guess this is a big bonus for Hillary.

The man one made mistake while speaking. Let. It. Go.

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/

Do you see a "Kerryism" page? I don't think so.

Argh, I have never met a thread more deserving of the "Aw jeez, not this shit again" picture, can we please just let it drop?

I'm sorry, but no. We can still discuss it if we like. You can choose not to read it if you like.

I'm a Democrat and it's pretty clear to me that he misspoke, and that his explanation of what he meant to say is about as convincing to me as a three year old with chocolate frosting on his face telling his mom, "I dunno who ate the last piece of cake."

I'm sorry, but no. We can still discuss it if we like. You can choose not to read it if you like.

I'm a Democrat and it's pretty clear to me that he misspoke, and that his explanation of what he meant to say is about as convincing to me as a three year old with chocolate frosting on his face telling his mom, "I dunno who ate the last piece of cake."

But, wasn't this done in Eut's thread already? You know, the one with all the.... <.< >.> 'unpleasantness'.

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I'm really, really, really, really beginning to get annoyed by the petty bickering of American politics.

I've never seen so much crap on issues so trivial in any other county.

*ugh*

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lets see if this works...

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/bannerkerry.jpg

Funny, the first link in the OP worked fine, but now I'm getting the "not authorized page"

conspracy maybe? nah...

Argh, I have never met a thread more deserving of the "Aw jeez, not this shit again" picture, can we please just let it drop?

no. hte foeign language threads deserve it. there are 2 many of those.

But, wasn't this done in Eut's thread already? You know, the one with all the.... <.< >.> 'unpleasantness'.

And is it not better to discuss it with cool heads, sans unpleasantness? Or are we all incapable of disagreeing civilly?

Has Kerry explained what he meant, other than to describe it as a 'joke which went wrong' or whatever?

Don't people who want a college education sometimes join the forces to get that? If so, that's the line I'd take, if I were Kerry. Luckily I'm not.

Sure, it's not a huge story, but in the interests of balance it has to play bigger than it deserves. Republicans need something to feel good about -- they're about to get reamed by the sound of it.

And is it not better to discuss it with cool heads, sans unpleasantness? Or are we all incapable of disagreeing civilly?

I would put a wager on the latter to be honest with you.

The simple fact is that it was a bad joke ill delivered in context...and then blown out of proportion by a hyper active media.

America - home of the keystone cops...

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Has Kerry explained what he meant, other than to describe it as a 'joke which went wrong' or whatever?

Don't people who want a college education sometimes join the forces to get that? If so, that's the line I'd take, if I were Kerry. Luckily I'm not.

Sure, it's not a huge story, but in the interests of balance it has to play bigger than it deserves. Republicans need something to feel good about -- they're about to get reamed by the sound of it.

I don't remember the EXACT wording, but it was a one-word mistake. He said something along the lines of, "If you don't get good grades in school, you'll get stuck in Iraq". He meant to say "If you don't get good grades in school, you'll get us stuck in Iraq.", as a reference to Bush.

Even if he did mean to say that, I think that saying "There ought to be limits to freedom" should be a LOT more disturbing to America than a jab at the intelligence of the military.

This country disgusts me, sometimes. I still love it, but... Damn, guys. Let's get our act together.

I don't remember the EXACT wording, but it was a one-word mistake. He said something along the lines of, "If you don't get good grades in school, you'll get stuck in Iraq". He meant to say "If you don't get good grades in school, you'll get us stuck in Iraq.", as a reference to Bush.

Even if he did mean to say that, I think that saying "There ought to be limits to freedom" should be a LOT more disturbing to America than a jab at the intelligence of the military.

This country disgusts me, sometimes. I still love it, but... Damn, guys. Let's get our act together.
and i've heard that there was a line at the end that says "ask President Bush."
and report that says "If you don't get good grades in school, you'll get elected president and get us stuck in Iraq".
but the thing is, It's not what he meant to say, but what he DID say. Just like all the Bushisms out there. it's not what he meant to say, but what he DID say.

funny how everyone who nitpicked Pres Bush about it forgets that with Kerry.

More right wing smear. Joy.

Seriously. The first time I heard him, it was clear what he meant, and it had nothing to do with insulting the troops.

But of course the right wing will never let any veteran who is a Democrat go without being smeared whenever possible. It's like a freaking mafia.

I can't beleive he called them dumb for that, I hope he was just kidding. To anyone with a human brain it is obviously a joke. The soldiers are all smiling and giggling for petesake!

*sigh*

I sometimes wonder if he isn't getting paid under the table by the GOP. Every time he opens his mouth, he certainly gives them ammo.

Him and the Supreme Courts from East Coast states.

and i've heard that there was a line at the end that says "ask President Bush."
and report that says "If you don't get good grades in school, you'll get elected president and get us stuck in Iraq".
but the thing is, It's not what he meant to say, but what he DID say. Just like all the Bushisms out there. it's not what he meant to say, but what he DID say.

funny how everyone who nitpicked Pres Bush about it forgets that with Kerry.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061031/kerry_iraq_061031/20061031?hub=TopStories

"Then he said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." There were a few polite titters from the audience."


I've seen the clip. That's what he says. He does not mention Bush. He is clearly referring to the students, not Bush, when he says "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well." Why then, when he makes NO reference to the president, do people assume he was talking about Bush when he says, "If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."?

It was a bad choice of words, and I am sorry he said it -- it deflects attention temporarily from the mismanagement rampant in Congress today.

I've seen the clip. That's what he says. He does not mention Bush. He is clearly referring to the students, not Bush, when he says "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well." Why then, when he makes NO reference to the president, do people assume he was talking about Bush when he says, "If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."?

In context, he was telling jokes about Bush.

In that context, it's pretty clear what he meant.

I can't beleive he called them dumb for that, I hope he was just kidding. To anyone with a human brain it is obviously a joke. The soldiers are all smiling and giggling for petesake!

They are laughing at Kerry for calling them dumb. Especially since it is not possible, as far as I know, to get into the forces without at least a HS diploma or GED. And because there are many servicemen and women who get into the forces in order to get their college education and/or specialized technical training which makes them QUITE valuable to the workforce after their hitch (providing, of course, that they are not killed).

In context, he was telling jokes about Bush.

In that context, it's pretty clear what he meant.

In context, he was making a speech to students at college concerning the need for scholarship. In that context it's pretty clear what he meant.

I would LOVE to be able to defend him -- I am hoping for a midterm upset -- but I cannot.

I would LOVE to be able to defend him -- I am hoping for a midterm upset -- but I cannot.

Sometimes - sometimes you just can't. Then again, I don't think this single gaffe on Kerry's part ought to hand the Republicans a midterm passcard.

Sometimes - sometimes you just can't. Then again, I don't think this single gaffe on Kerry's part ought to hand the Republicans a midterm passcard.*nods*

if it does hurt the Dems THAT much... then the voters put too much weight on Kerry's words.

Sometimes - sometimes you just can't. Then again, I don't think this single gaffe on Kerry's part ought to hand the Republicans a midterm passcard.

I don't think it should either, but you never know.

And I think it better to be honest and say, "Man, was that ever a stupid comment" than do all kinds of linguistic and logical contortions to try to prove it wasn't.

This whole thing is classic making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Face it. There are STUPID people in Iraq. My wife has a friend whose nephew is there. About the only thing this guy is capable of doing is digging ditches and driving.

The dope agreed to drive fuel trucks. Hope he never get's hit with an RPG.

Are all soldiers stupid? Of course not.

My wifes cousin rotated out. He was working on his MBA before he decided to join up. 9/11 motivated him

One of the major names of the Perl world just rotated out.

Kerry was stupid no doubt.

The repubs are running scared to the point where they almost had a rumble over who gets to use this situation.

The last thing the Republican strategists need is more references to Iraq.

Did Kerry change some votes? Doubtful. If they did change, they were probably leaning that way before this....

It's funny the fact soooo many people are upset of this rather simpleminded situation when there is greator crap being thrown by both sides.

I think it's Tennessee where one side is making up a mistress for the other candidate. They managed to mix the black white thing as well. Yet, nobody is bitching about that.

So Kerry said something stupid. *YAWN* The shrub has him beat to the nth degree. Then again they were both edumacted at the same school.

Why are we arguing over which idiot is smarter? Has our country declined that we are debating the merits of two people with C averages?

Yes, hello, person without a party here. Why is it that scandals and crap get caught up on TV. I can never find out what the interests of a true politician is unless I was to watch C-SPAM. Sorry, I mean C-SPAN. Never gonna happen! Here's to everybody who thinks that Kerry's words stand for the whole Democratic Party. :upyours:

*If I was allowed to vote 2 years ago, I would have voted Bush*

Yes, hello, person without a party here. Why is it that scandals and crap get caught up on TV. I can never find out what the interests of a true politician is unless I was to watch C-SPAM. Sorry, I mean C-SPAN. Never gonna happen! Here's to everybody who thinks that Kerry's words stand for the whole Democratic Party. :upyours:

*If I was allowed to vote 2 years ago, I would have voted Bush*

Yah, that up yours smiley really makes your post one serious, well thought-out missive. As does complaining that you won't watch C-SPAN, which you believe will show you what politicians are really like, and are mad for the media for not carrying.... oh, right, what's on C-SPAN.

The man one made mistake while speaking. Let. It. Go.

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/

Do you see a "Kerryism" page? I don't think so.

ROFLAMO! :D One mistake while speaking? "I voted for the bill before I voted against it." He has a bad case of "hoof in mouth disease.

Argh, I have never met a thread more deserving of the "Aw jeez, not this shit again" picture, can we please just let it drop?

Yes, we can let it drop along with the Democratic Party hopes of taking over the Congress.

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I'm really, really, really, really beginning to get annoyed by the petty bickering of American politics.

I've never seen so much crap on issues so trivial in any other country.

*ugh*

And that is why a lot of people are getting fed up with both parties. Almost all the political ads on TV are the candidates bashing each other. No one is talking about the issues. I'd like to see the crap stop and a serioius discussion of the issues, but it ain't going to happen.

ROSS! Where the hell are you?

I'm a Democrat and it's pretty clear to me that he misspoke, and that his explanation of what he meant to say is about as convincing to me as a three year old with chocolate frosting on his face telling his mom, "I dunno who ate the last piece of cake."

:D :D :fluffle:

Yes, we can let it drop along with the Democratic Party hopes of taking over the Congress.

You really believe that's going to turn the election? :D :D :D

Don't forget there is still time for Rush to say something stupid. ;)

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061031/kerry_iraq_061031/20061031?hub=TopStories
-- it deflects attention temporarily from the mismanagement rampant in Congress today.

Very well said, and the fault of both parties. We need a viable third party in this country. When the hell are people going to wake up and see the "professional politicians" have only their best interest in mind?

Bah, I hate American politics these days. Both parties want to lead the country in the wrong direction, they're more interested in beating the other party on some non-issue than working together. The Democrats are spineless wimps, the Republicans are psychotic nutjobs. The Democrats don't have much of a plan for the future, the Republicans' plan sounds like something out of 1984. Both parties air attack ads that twist the truth or lie outright, neither offer substantial arguments. The American public gets its news from FOX, and its politics from half-minute commercials involving smiling toddlers, American flags and farmers.

Obviously, I'm generalising. Further, I'm not being particularly articulate. Oh, well. Pre-election depression motivated me to post this, not reason. Bah.

A St. Vincent folk song called 'Joshua Gone Barbados' comes to mind.

Wish I could go to England,
Trinidad or Curaco-o,
People on 'de Island,
They got no place to go

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You really believe that's going to turn the election? :D :D :D

Don't forget there is still time for Rush to say something stupid. ;)

Eh, Rush says something stupid on a daily basis, and plus he's not running for any office, so him saying something stupid is like a passenger saying something stupid on a jet liner. Sure he may get tackled for saying "bomb" on an airliner, but he won't change what the pilot, and co-pilot will do.

Eh, Rush says something stupid on a daily basis, and plus he's not running for any office, so him saying something stupid is like a passenger saying something stupid on a jet liner. Sure he may get tackled for saying "bomb" on an airliner, but he won't change what the pilot, and co-pilot will do.

And no Republican said "it's just Rush" when he went after Fox? Many probably thanked God when Kerry did his flub.

Kerry's comment will do next to nothing for the elections. Even the news has dropped it to "oh by the way, he apolgiezed" spot. It's already fading away.....

And no Republican said "it's just Rush" when he went after Fox? Many probably thanked God when Kerry did his flub.

Kerry's comment will do next to nothing for the elections. Even the news has dropped it to "oh by the way, he apolgiezed" spot. It's already fading away.....

People like to think Rush has more power than he actually does. He's just a talk show host, that's it, and personally I was on Fox side when he said it. My point is, people know what Rush talks about on his show, they know what to expect from him, so it's really not that much of a surprise. However, politicians like Kerry and Bush are held to a higher standard, even though they both fall below that standards many times.

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A pic of a small insignificant object. Are you drawing a comparison to Kerry?

A pic of a small insignificant object. Are you drawing a comparison to Kerry?

Nope, just treating this topic with all the seriousness it deserves.

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Eh, Rush says something stupid on a daily basis, and plus he's not running for any office, so him saying something stupid is like a passenger saying something stupid on a jet liner. Sure he may get tackled for saying "bomb" on an airliner, but he won't change what the pilot, and co-pilot will do.

As a small point - Kerry is not running in these elections either.

Has Kerry explained what he meant, other than to describe it as a 'joke which went wrong' or whatever?

That's funny, considering the "mis-speaking" and "mis-understanding" that popped up under Pope Benedict.

Now, being a Calvinist, I'm not one to defend the Pope, but most people claimed "he should have known what was coming to him."

Well, same thing here. He should have known better.

ROSS! Where the hell are you?

I think I would cry if Ross Perot ran again.

Tears of joy. I would vote for him, if I could.