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Teen rapes Mom to get back at Brother....

Lt_Cody
02-11-2006, 22:51
Teen arrested for raping his mother
Oct 27, 2006 12:08 PM

Albertville, Ala. -- Police say a Marshall County teen raped his mother to get revenge on his brother.

Police say 19-year-old Gary Helms, Jr., raped his 45-year-old mother this past weekend at Willow Terrace Trailer Park on Doyle Drive in Albertville.

It's a twisted crime that police say Helms admits.

"From what we understand the rape stemmed from an argument between him and his brother. And apparently they were arguing over a girlfriend. And the rape was some sort of retaliation towards his brother," said Sgt. Jamie Smith of the Albertville Police Department.

It was unusual retaliation on an unsuspecting victim.

Authorities say Helms' mother was apparently passed out drunk on the couch when the rape started.

"During the attack she did come to and recognize her attacker. (Reporter: As her son?) As her son," said Smith.

That's when, according to the police report, the mother "tried to get away, but he held her down until he was finished."

"It's totally sick is what it is," said Smith.

Helms was arrested and charged with the 1st degree rape of his own mother.

Smith says it's hard to wrap your mind around.

"Shocked, shocked would be more a better way to describe it. That somebody would dip to the lows to do something of this nature. It's just pretty much a shock to the conscience of the general public," said Smith.

Helms is being held in the Marshall County Jail on $100,000 bond.
Link (http://waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5596249)
This is just wrong on so many levels.....
Khadgar
02-11-2006, 22:52
Only in Alabama! Or Kentucky, West Virginia, or Mississippi.
JuNii
02-11-2006, 22:53
Link (http://waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5596249)
This is just wrong on so many levels.....

agreed, and this quote can't be stressed enough...
It's a twisted crime that police say Helms admits.
Philosopy
02-11-2006, 22:54
Sounds like a pretty twisted guy. They should lock him up for a very long time.
Dinaverg
02-11-2006, 22:54
...Bwa?
Todsboro
02-11-2006, 22:55
"Father"
"Yes Son"
"I want to Kill You"

"Mother...I want to..."


Dude, that's not even right in Alabama. You rape your sister.

Kids these days...
Bitchkitten
02-11-2006, 22:56
I just can't think of any comment that would do this justice.
Shikishima
02-11-2006, 22:58
He should've just asked. It never hurts to ask first.
JuNii
02-11-2006, 22:58
I just can't think of any comment that would do this justice.

... may I suggest...

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!




I wonder tho. what the argument was about...

Son1: Mom likes me better
Son2: No, Mon like me better...
Lt_Cody
02-11-2006, 22:59
And it was over an argument about a girlfriend!

A: "No, she loves me more then you!"
B: "Yeah, well....I just raped Mom!"
A: :eek: :confused:
Neo-Erusea
02-11-2006, 23:00
That dude's got problems...
JuNii
02-11-2006, 23:02
And it was over an argument about a girlfriend!

A: "No, she loves me more then you!"
B: "Yeah, well....I just raped Mom!"
A: :eek: :confused:

missed that point...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
02-11-2006, 23:13
And it was over an argument about a girlfriend!

A: "No, she loves me more then you!"
B: "Yeah, well....I just raped Mom!"
A: :eek: :confused:
I imagine it was more like:
A: Tina likes my mullet more!
B: No she doesn't. She says it smells like dog vomit.
A: Oh, yeah, well I just raped your mom!
B: Dude . . . she's . . . your mom too.
A: Touché.
Yootopia
02-11-2006, 23:15
I have a joke for you -

Alabama
Posi
02-11-2006, 23:16
I have a joke for you -

Alabama

Micheal Jackson.
Call to power
02-11-2006, 23:29
if he doesn’t plead insanity he will be clearly insane in my book

And you really can’t blame the mother in this case and still retain your soul or can you? (she was passed out on the couch sounds like bad parenting)
Teh_pantless_hero
02-11-2006, 23:38
Oh huzzah, a story on the local news station.
Zarakon
02-11-2006, 23:42
I just can't think of any comment that would do this justice.

I believe 'holy shit' covers it quite nicely.
The Black Forrest
02-11-2006, 23:49
I have a joke for you -

Alabama


What about Geordies?
Rhaomi
02-11-2006, 23:54
Hey, don't look at me! It's not like I chose to live here... :rolleyes:
LazyOtaku
02-11-2006, 23:57
What does the Bible say about a case like this?

Does he have to marry her?
Markreich
03-11-2006, 00:03
What does the Bible say about a case like this?

Does he have to marry her?

I'd say that he quite clearly broke the "Honor thy father and thy mother" commandment.

Can't think of anything that says he has to marry her out of the Bible, but maybe this is covered in the Koran...
Markreich
03-11-2006, 00:04
http://www.nbc-2.com/satellite/MomRaped.jpg

Courtesy NBC-2.
Neo Undelia
03-11-2006, 00:10
My God.
Zarakon
03-11-2006, 00:20
And you really can’t blame the mother in this case and still retain your soul or can you? (she was passed out on the couch sounds like bad parenting)


Yeah, you can. I blame her for contributing to the gene pool.
Al Tira
03-11-2006, 00:23
Yeah, you can. I blame her for contributing to the gene pool.

I second that.
Irnland
03-11-2006, 00:24
That's pretty messed up.
Heikoku
03-11-2006, 00:25
Okay...

I'm pretty good with words usually, but this one...

I mean...

HOLY CRAP!!!
Cannot think of a name
03-11-2006, 00:33
That's one hell of a Oedipal complex...Just eyes for consensual accidental sex with your mom...that's a whole lot of clawing for this...
at Willow Terrace Trailer Park on Doyle Drive in Albertville.
If you wrote it it would be too much. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction because truth won't pull back because it feels it's laying it on too thick.
... may I suggest...

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!




I wonder tho. what the argument was about...

Son1: Mom likes me better
Son2: No, Mon like me better...
That's one messed up episode of The Smothers Brothers...

Hey, don't look at me! It's not like I chose to live here... :rolleyes:
Ah dude, you're not responsible for the bat shit that live near you. It's all good.
Heikoku
03-11-2006, 00:38
Well, indeed reality is more fucked up than fiction - I mean, this guy cleans Evangelion character Shinji Ikari's clock, and when we talk about Shinji we're talking about 14-year old kid that rides a robot possessed by his mom's spirit. :p
MrMopar
03-11-2006, 00:41
And it was over an argument about a girlfriend!

A: "No, she loves me more then you!"
B: "Yeah, well....I just raped Mom!"
A: :eek: :confused:
Which is where it gets wierd.
Irnland
03-11-2006, 00:44
It gets worse...

A man police say confessed to raping his own mother is now being investigated for sex crimes across the Valley.

The newest case involves a child.

19-year-old Gary Helms, Jr., was arrested in Albertville in October accused of raping his mother.

It's a crime Marshall County Sheriff Mac Holcomb finds despicable.

"This is about as hideous of a crime as I can think of. Even murder itself, I don't think in my opinion is as bad," said Holcomb.

Since then, Helms has been connected to the alleged rape of a 16-year-old girl in Lauderdale County.

Investigators also say he's suspected of sexually assaulting a 4-year-old in Marshall County.

The alleged incident happened back in the spring in the Albertville area.

It's still under investigation.

If Helms is found guilty of all crimes against him, Holcomb says there's no place in society for a person like that.

"I can only give you my opinion of what ought to happen to a sick, sick person like this. He should be, either be shot or put in prison under the prison, the keys thrown away and he never see the light of day again," said Holcomb.

Helms is still being held in the Marshall County Jail on $100,000 bond.


Link (http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5621830&nav=0hBE)
Anti-Social Darwinism
03-11-2006, 00:44
There is just so much here that indicates that the gene pool needs, not just chlorination, but possible draining and refilling. This goes past disturbing.
Free Soviets
03-11-2006, 00:51
It gets worse...

well, at least that would just show him to be monumentally fucked up psychologically, and not just an utter moron.
Posi
03-11-2006, 00:54
There is just so much here that indicates that the gene pool needs, not just chlorination, but possible draining and refilling. This goes past disturbing.

Hey sexy mama, wanna destroy all humans?
Anti-Social Darwinism
03-11-2006, 01:00
Hey sexy mama, wanna destroy all humans?

Mmm, no, just screwed up idiots from the shallow end of the gene pool who have no impulse control. Oh, wait...
Cannot think of a name
03-11-2006, 01:02
Hey sexy mama, wanna destroy all humans?

hehe (http://www.killbots.com/content/sounds/2acv07/011.rm)
Irnland
03-11-2006, 01:08
hehe (http://www.killbots.com/content/sounds/2acv07/011.rm)

That soundbite is wrong on oh so many levels
Cannot think of a name
03-11-2006, 01:11
That soundbite is wrong on oh so many levels

I honestly didn't think about it, but now that I did-you're right. I was just trying to find a clip of Bender saying the 'kill all humans' and got impatient...ewness...ah well
JuNii
03-11-2006, 01:27
It gets worse...



Link (http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5621830&nav=0hBE)

I think this might be an argument for Legalized Castration...


























with a dull, rusty knife.
Myrmidonisia
03-11-2006, 01:32
Only in Alabama! Or Kentucky, West Virginia, or Mississippi.

No, a trailer park in Alabamastan. That's about as backwards as it gets.
Turquoise Days
03-11-2006, 01:50
What about Geordies?

What have we got to do with Alabaman rapists? *is confused*
Soviestan
03-11-2006, 08:08
You couldnt make this shit up. Just when I thought I have heard and seen it all, this story rolls around. People are fucked up.
The Plutonian Empire
03-11-2006, 08:25
http://www.nbc-2.com/satellite/MomRaped.jpg

Courtesy NBC-2.
Wow. He looks a bit like me. :(

Only without self-control.
Multiland
03-11-2006, 10:21
Only in Alabama! Or Kentucky, West Virginia, or Mississippi.


Or the U.S.
Boonytopia
03-11-2006, 10:41
I just can't begin to understand why anyone would do that.
Free Randomers
03-11-2006, 10:46
With 300,000,000 people you're gonna get some who are fucked up.

Which is why we have Jerry Springer.
The Avatars Puppet
03-11-2006, 11:02
Kinda reminds me of a line we used to say in the Live Show of the "Rocky Horror Picture Show"

"Incest is best
Put your sister to the test,
Let your brother do your mother,
and your father do the rest."
Harlesburg
03-11-2006, 11:22
I just can't think of any comment that would do this justice.
Dingdada ding ding ding ding...
Vegan Nuts
03-11-2006, 11:27
What does the Bible say about a case like this?

Does he have to marry her?

only if she failed to cry out.
Darknovae
03-11-2006, 11:39
Wow.

Crazy.

I'd say more but it may include a certain letter between J and L and that cetain button is messed up so I can't use it. :mad:
Finsvenigor
03-11-2006, 11:43
This kind of news makes me think, that the mankind is...

Useless, mindless, thoughtless creatures...

Who sensible on Earth would actually do something like that. Makes me sick
Ithania
03-11-2006, 12:31
This kind of news makes me think, that the mankind is...

Useless, mindless, thoughtless creatures...

*gives you a bio-degradable violin.:rolleyes: *

If you hate humanity so much you're free to take yourself out of the gene pool... if not, stop whining and overly generalising one instance of a verrrrryyyy psychologically disturbed person to all of the species.

Anyhooooo, this is so sickening that words couldn’t suffice (and it's hard to find me speechless:eek: ), rape is far worse than murder to me… no amount of psychological rehabilitation could remove such horrid traits from a character, if you leave the slightest root their corruption would grow again so he could harm another. :(
Ifreann
03-11-2006, 12:48
Well if you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in the family.
Nobel Hobos
03-11-2006, 12:55
if he doesn’t plead insanity he will be clearly insane in my book

And you really can’t blame the mother in this case and still retain your soul or can you? (she was passed out on the couch sounds like bad parenting)

"Passed out drunk" really doesn't mean much. I pass out drunk every night, have been doing it for years. Sobering up before going to sleep really doesn't seem worthwhile.
And "on the couch" ?? Sleeping on the couch is bad parenting? Sheesh, talk about Blaming the Victim.

Yeah, you can. I blame her for contributing to the gene pool.

"The sins of the son shall be visited apon his father, and on his father's father" or something like that.
Makes even less sense than the Biblical version.

It gets worse...

Link (http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5621830&nav=0hBE)

Sheriffs ought to shut the fuck up. In fact, there should be a law against any public servant participating in the miscarriage of justice which is public speculation about a crime before trial. The media does it, and I'm not saying that's a crime ... but an officer of the law should save it for the judge or jury.
And this twerp is giving his opinion about an investigation before charges are laid. In my country (Australia) he'd be sacked for that, as he ought to be.

Wow.

Crazy.

I'd say more but it may include a certain letter between J and L and that cetain button is messed up so I can't use it. :mad:

Ugh. Unkool. I kouldn't hack it if my 'k' didn't kick in when I needed ik. You kould khange your keyboard map to make the = key do k's?

'Kay?



I desperately want to make a joke about this one, but even I recognize some limits to good taste.

It's abhorrent, mainly because it's rape (molesting a sleeping person is rape, since consent isn't given. Waking your lover up with caresses can be OK, but you want to be careful the first time you do that, perhaps a kiss on the cheek).
Incest is not to my mind wrong, between family members of sound mind and of adult age. (I keep hinting that to my sister, but she doesn't react well.) If we were the only people left on earth, and my mom was nagging me to, and after a few weeks without alternatives ... sure, I'd have sex with my mom.

Having sex with some person to prove a point to some other person (his brother in this case) is callous, but not inherently wrong. Sometimes you discover an aspect of your own personality by doing something your instincts tell you not to. But not usually. Your own feelings are a far better guide.

But rape is where it becomes seriously wrong.

So I've got: it's inherently wrong on ONE level (rape).
Stupid on one level (revenge on his brother.)
Rather odd on one level (having sex with his mom.)
Not "wrong on so many levels." It's A Crime, with Aggravating Factors.

Five years jail, with one year non-parole, on condition of the accused attending and fully participating in psychiatric treatment for a period of at least five years. Family counselling is also advised. :bangs gavel:

On appeal: the accused did not recieve a fair trial because of the dumbass sheriff.

edit:Well if you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in the family.

Damn. I should have just made a joke, huh? :D
Finsvenigor
03-11-2006, 13:05
*gives you a bio-degradable violin.:rolleyes: *

If you hate humanity so much you're free to take yourself out of the gene pool... if not, stop whining and overly generalising one instance of a verrrrryyyy psychologically disturbed person to all of the species.

Anyhooooo, this is so sickening that words couldn’t suffice (and it's hard to find me speechless:eek: ), rape is far worse than murder to me… no amount of psychological rehabilitation could remove such horrid traits from a character, if you leave the slightest root their corruption would grow again so he could harm another. :(

Well I don't actually HATE the humanity. Pretty strong word anyways. And I don't generalize, even that my post-traumatic post might describe so... First of all my sincere apologizes for those offended.

The meaning of the post is the reflection to the overall level, where I relate the human race to every other lifeforms on Earth, but that takes it too far from the actual case...

But after the long technobabbe the Summa Summarum:

That is sick. I wonder, what was in the mind of that fellow. If I want a revenge to my brother, I usually just hit him. And face the consecuences, like anyone else.

Simply.

--

And Ithania: Yes, that's true. And especially, when the target of raping was his own mother. That sort of event will not go unnoticed and will not be forgotten. Gary Helms Jr. will always be the "Son, who raped his own mother".

He'd no longer find comfort with his mother. Likely his mother will deny, that Gary's her son.

His future will be tough...
Nobel Hobos
03-11-2006, 13:55
*gives you a bio-degradable violin.:rolleyes: *

If you hate humanity so much you're free to take yourself out of the gene pool... if not, stop whining and overly generalising one instance of a verrrrryyyy psychologically disturbed person to all of the species.

Anyhooooo, this is so sickening that words couldn’t suffice (and it's hard to find me speechless:eek: ), rape is far worse than murder to me… no amount of psychological rehabilitation could remove such horrid traits from a character, if you leave the slightest root their corruption would grow again so he could harm another. :(

Well that is just weird.

Would everyone please stop feeling sick?

"Feeling sick" is just admitting that the bits of your brain which are forming your opinion are so far from consciousness that you cannot distinguish them from organic disfunction. DO NOT let your gut make moral decisions ... the gut can digest anything ... with practice, it could digest human faeces. You think your gut is more righteous, more morally discerning than that of a dog? Dogs have no problem with rooting their moms. And dogs eat vomitus and faeces. A dog's gut is pretty much like a human's gut. Trusting your "gut feeling" is like letting your dog vote for you because you can't be bothered doing it yourself.

The whole story has not been heard. It should not be heard, until it is heard in a court when this young man is tried. Unless it is necessary to protect persons not of legal age who are involved, or to protect national security, it may then be revealed in all the details tendered to the court.
(Of course, different rules may apply in the US. This just seems right and proper to me, that allegations not tested in court should not become public knowledge without the subject's consent. And that any decision reached by a court should be public knowledge, including all the evidence which was tendered.)

Done. I'm going to 'pass out drunk' in a few minutes.
Darknovae
03-11-2006, 13:59
That is just sooooooooooo wrong. On at least nine different levels. That doesn't seeml ike much but nine levels of flat out wrong is quite a lot. :eek:

This guy should be locked up for life.
Big Jim P
03-11-2006, 14:28
WTF? Just when I think my opinion of the human species can't get any lower, something like this comes along. Why the fuck I read this thread is beyond me.
Cluichstan
03-11-2006, 14:41
Police say 19-year-old Gary Helms, Jr., raped his 45-year-old mother this past weekend at Willow Terrace Trailer Park on Doyle Drive in Albertville.

'Nuff said.
Markreich
04-11-2006, 01:24
Wow. He looks a bit like me. :(

Only without self-control.

Yes, and you're also not a motherf*cker.
Accrammia
04-11-2006, 01:29
Dude, that's not even right in Alabama. You rape your sister.


:D

sick shit


becomes sicker the more you think about it too