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Racial slur

Jdp0993
02-11-2006, 20:13
What do you think of using the word ******?
Khadgar
02-11-2006, 20:14
Same thing I think of the word faggot. Say it and you're like to lose some teeth.
Drunk commies deleted
02-11-2006, 20:15
I generally avoid it except when it's necessary to quote someone or to make a certain point.
Ice Hockey Players
02-11-2006, 20:15
I don't much care for it myself. Aside from that, the word "black" is one syllable. A bisyllabic racial slur is too much work. That said, if I want to talk about someone who's a ditchdigger or say the Beatles said they were bigger than Jesus, I really have to enunciate.
JuNii
02-11-2006, 20:16
What do you think of using the word ******?

I would use it only when quoting movies

Blazing Saddles
Bart: Exscuse me sir, he specifically said two 'Niggers'... well to tell a family secret, my mother was Dutch-Irish.
Pax dei
02-11-2006, 20:17
Same thing I think of the word faggot. Say it and you're like to lose some teeth.

Ever hear of Pork Faggots??

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Mr_Brains_Pork_Faggots__5303376

The meaning of words depend on the context in which they are used !!;)
Farnhamia
02-11-2006, 20:19
Same thing I think of the word faggot. Say it and you're like to lose some teeth.

Seconded.
Khadgar
02-11-2006, 20:20
Ever hear of Pork Faggots??

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Mr_Brains_Pork_Faggots__5303376

Words depend on the context that there used!!;)

Actually I have, that wins as funniest product name ever.
JuNii
02-11-2006, 20:21
Ever hear of Pork Faggots??

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Mr_Brains_Pork_Faggots__5303376

Words depend on the context that there used!!;)
as well as...
Faggot (wood), a bundle of sticks or branches, usually meant for use as firewood.
Faggots (novel), a novel by Larry Kramer.
Faggot (unit of measurement), an archaic unit of measurement.
"Fagot" (silent T), the NATO reporting name for the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 airplane.
Faggot (food), a British pork meatball.
Fagot(to) is the name in many languages of the musical instrument bassoon.
Pax dei
02-11-2006, 20:23
Actually I have, that wins as funniest product name ever.
Ciggerettes in the UK and Ireland are called FAGS.As in - 'Can you light my fag".. The meaning of which has often been lost in translation to many slaps and much amusement.:D
Hydesland
02-11-2006, 20:43
as well as...
Faggot (wood), a bundle of sticks or branches, usually meant for use as firewood.
Faggots (novel), a novel by Larry Kramer.
Faggot (unit of measurement), an archaic unit of measurement.
"Fagot" (silent T), the NATO reporting name for the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 airplane.
Faggot (food), a British pork meatball.
Fagot(to) is the name in many languages of the musical instrument bassoon.

Apparently gays were called faggots because they used to be burnt to a bundle of sticks which are, like you said, called faggots.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-11-2006, 20:45
What do you think of using the word ******?

I think using "jigaboo" is way more funny.
JuNii
02-11-2006, 20:50
Apparently gays were called faggots because they used to be burnt to a bundle of sticks which are, like you said, called faggots.

*imagines the smell of burnt hair and skin*
ahem... may I now say...

ewwwwwwwwww
Dominic Lucifer
02-11-2006, 21:00
What do you think of using the word ******?

I tend to avoid using the word in public.
Jenrak
02-11-2006, 21:11
What do you think of using the word ******?

I really don't care.
Mack Pimps
02-11-2006, 21:16
Depends on the context. To use it in a derogatory way is... well, ignorant, but using it in a joke about foibles of black people (And no, I don't limit myself to jokes about one race) can often enhance the joke. Having a sense of humor and being a bigot are two very different things, but sometimes a joke said to the wrong person could end up being painful. :P
Soviet Haaregrad
02-11-2006, 21:22
It's a'ight with me, nigga. :D Ugg, I even sound like a cracker when I try to sound gangsta. =(
Soyut
02-11-2006, 21:23
ITs hilarious! Go pick my cotton you dumb ******!
Drunk commies deleted
02-11-2006, 21:25
ITs hilarious! Go pick my cotton you dumb ******!

http://i12.tinypic.com/2uj08j7.jpg
Andaluciae
02-11-2006, 21:26
It has two syllables, black has one. I stick with the short word.
Soviestan
02-11-2006, 21:38
What do you think of using the word ******?

if your white and you use it in say Harlem, your a moron. I'm not a big fan of using the word myself unless its in a joke or something.
The blessed Chris
02-11-2006, 21:38
It does have a certain resonance, and really winds up politically correct proto-diction-nazis.
Soviestan
02-11-2006, 21:39
http://i12.tinypic.com/2uj08j7.jpg

That made me chuckle.
The blessed Chris
02-11-2006, 21:39
ITs hilarious! Go pick my cotton you dumb ******!

:D
Bitchkitten
02-11-2006, 21:40
My mother would haved tanned my hide for using the n word. I'd have better luck saying "fuck Jesus" in church.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-11-2006, 21:56
It has two syllables, black has one. I stick with the short word.

you may wanna try "spook" , then.
Anti-Social Darwinism
03-11-2006, 00:49
The fact that I'm not black notwithstanding, I find it offensive. Just as I find honkie, dago, spick, gook and other pejorative terms offensive. Besides which, the use of these terms indicates an intellectual lack, an inability to use standard English to express yourself; just as consistent swearing does. Use a word once or twice for impact - use it more than that and people stop listening and lose regard for you.
Liberated New Ireland
03-11-2006, 00:54
I tend to avoid using the word in public.

Wuss.

I generally only use it after one of my friends or I get jumped, or hassled, or if a black person calls me cracka or whiteboy.
Infinite Revolution
03-11-2006, 00:56
i can't think of any reason why i'd use the word when there are plenty of more descriptive and relevant words to use to describe a person.
Prussische
03-11-2006, 01:29
Same thing I think of the word faggot. Say it and you're like to lose some teeth.

Hmm, beating up anyone you don't like, or whose views differ from yours, in the name of tolerance? Anyone see hypocrisy there?
Katganistan
03-11-2006, 01:32
I think anyone who uses racial slurs is an ignorant boor.
Liberated New Ireland
03-11-2006, 01:32
Hmm, beating up anyone you don't like, or whose views differ from yours, in the name of tolerance? Anyone see hypocrisy there?

...yes?
Kiryu-shi
03-11-2006, 01:33
It's a'ight with me, nigga. :D Ugg, I even sound like a cracker when I try to sound gangsta. =(

is there a difference between ****** and nigga? If a black person says it, is it more ok?
Liberated New Ireland
03-11-2006, 01:47
is there a difference between ****** and nigga? If a black person says it, is it more ok?

****** and nigga is just a difference in accent.

If a black person says it, it just means they're ignorant.
Kiryu-shi
03-11-2006, 01:59
****** and nigga is just a difference in accent.

If a black person says it, it just means they're ignorant.

Kanye West, whose mother was the chair of an English Department and whose father was an award winning photo-journalist and who is college educated (according to wiki) is ignorant? Maybe, but it isn't that likely.
Swilatia
03-11-2006, 02:01
to me it's just a word.
Sarkhaan
03-11-2006, 02:04
I will not use it in normal speech, jokingly or not.

I will say it if it is in a text I am reading (Huck Finn et. al.)

I will use it in my writing or certain times when speaking if it is needed (in other words, if I am writing a story or poem, and need to use it for the character or phrase to "work". The example would be "You friggin black kid" vs "You fucking ******".) If I need to pull in the power of the word to make something work, I will.
Liberated New Ireland
03-11-2006, 02:07
Kanye West, whose mother was the chair of an English Department and whose father was an award winning photo-journalist and who is college educated (according to wiki) is ignorant? Maybe, but it isn't that likely.

So, his parents are smart and he went to college. I guess that would make him smart, since no one who was stupid has ever graduated from college. :rolleyes:

So, yes, I still consider him ignorant... especially considering the quality of his lyrics.

She ain't nothin' but a gold digger! (repeat until ears bleed and audience starts shouting "We want Eazy!")
Kiryu-shi
03-11-2006, 02:32
So, his parents are smart and he went to college. I guess that would make him smart, since no one who was stupid has ever graduated from college. :rolleyes:

So, yes, I still consider him ignorant... especially considering the quality of his lyrics.

She ain't nothin' but a gold digger! (repeat until ears bleed and audience starts shouting "We want Eazy!")

lol, those are some really pathetic lyrics. Some of his other songs are a little better, I don't really get how that became so popular. I don't really listen to him though.

And not smart dosn't equal ignorant. Ignorant is about a lack of knowledge, not how smart you are. Not that many people whose parents are that educated will grow up uneducated. I don't know about his intelligence, but he has made comments that indicate that he is more educated and informed than most of hip hop culture. Not that I agree with him or even use the word ******. I just don't agree that everyone who uses it is ignorant.
Liberated New Ireland
03-11-2006, 02:42
lol, those are some really pathetic lyrics. Some of his other songs are a little better, I don't really get how that became so popular. I don't really listen to him though.
I try to avoid doing so.

And not smart dosn't equal ignorant. Ignorant is about a lack of knowledge, not how smart you are. Not that many people whose parents are that educated will grow up uneducated.
*knows this*
I don't know about his intelligence, but he has made comments that indicate that he is more educated and informed than most of hip hop culture. Not that I agree with him or even use the word ******. I just don't agree that everyone who uses it is ignorant.
I don't think black people who use the word (as a friendly pronoun for other people) are stupid, but I think they are ignorant about the history of the word, even if they aren't about other things.
Kiryu-shi
03-11-2006, 02:51
I don't think black people who use the word (as a friendly pronoun for other people) are stupid, but I think they are ignorant about the history of the word, even if they aren't about other things.

I went to a school where we learned over and over every year about every bit of black history. Probably cause most of the teachers, the principal, and at least the half the student body were black. The kids who were in my school and in my class had it drilled into their heads about where the word ****** came from. That didn't stop the students and the teachers to use that word in casual conversation. They know where the word is from, but it's also part of their culture. At least in my anecdotal observations.
Threcria
03-11-2006, 02:55
If your white, and you say it ever (or write/type it unless in an absolutely analytical sense) in Manhattan, your going to get your Ass kicked, and not just by black people.

And as to black people saying it, I'm not touching it.
New Xero Seven
03-11-2006, 02:55
What do you think of using the word ******?

Just another word in the dictionary. Meaning comes from the context in which its used.
Though I'd never use it anyhow (unless in educational contexts).
Kiryu-shi
03-11-2006, 02:58
If your white, and you say it ever (or write/type it unless in an absolutely analytical sense) in Manhattan, your going to get your Ass kicked, and not just by black people.


Thats not always true. Mostly, but not always.
New Genoa
03-11-2006, 03:40
Same thing I think of the word faggot. Say it and you're like to lose some teeth.

Niggerfaggot (http://youtube.com/watch?v=G2nTbqbtGug) ftw.

By the way, I do use in regular speech with my friends (as well as "nigga"), along with a thousand other profanities. It's another swear word to me.

Besides, I hear black kids/hispanic kids/albanian kids/even some white kids say it EVERY GOD DAMN day in school dozens of times.
Celtlund
03-11-2006, 03:56
What do you think of using the word ******?

Same thing I think of people who call St. Patrick's Day, St. Paddy's Day.

For the uneducated:

Pad‧dy  /ˈpædi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pad-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -dies.
1. Slang (often disparaging). an Irishman or a person of Irish descent.
Celtlund
03-11-2006, 03:58
Kanye West, whose mother was the chair of an English Department and whose father was an award winning photo-journalist and who is college educated (according to wiki) is ignorant? Maybe, but it isn't that likely.

There are many college educated people who are ignorant. Some of them even have Phd's. :mad:
Liberated New Ireland
03-11-2006, 04:02
I went to a school where we learned over and over every year about every bit of black history. Probably cause most of the teachers, the principal, and at least the half the student body were black. The kids who were in my school and in my class had it drilled into their heads about where the word ****** came from. That didn't stop the students and the teachers to use that word in casual conversation. They know where the word is from, but it's also part of their culture. At least in my anecdotal observations.

These kids who use "******"... do they actually pay attention in class?

And the teachers use ****** in ordinary conversation? Damn, one of my teachers (she's black and proud of her race) kicks black kids out of class for using it, being, in her own words, ignorant. (Although, she says "Igna'int" because she's from Carolina" :D)
The Atlantian islands
03-11-2006, 04:50
I say it all the time, but I never really use it as an insult to someone.

If I want to insult a black, I'd insult something that he has control over, not the fact that hes black.
Smunkeeville
03-11-2006, 05:36
I can't think of a situation where I would use it that wouldn't be inappropriate so I don't use it.
Wilgrove
03-11-2006, 05:47
I only say it when reciting Blazing Saddles quotes.
Gorias
03-11-2006, 15:42
What do you think of using the word ******?

dont find that word offensive. i just wouldnt use it to offend someone.
Ifreann
03-11-2006, 15:49
I'm four pages late but:
http://www.feuerwher.de/forum/troll.jpg
Gorias
03-11-2006, 15:51
Same thing I think of people who call St. Patrick's Day, St. Paddy's Day.

For the uneducated:

Pad‧dy  /ˈpædi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pad-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -dies.
1. Slang (often disparaging). an Irishman or a person of Irish descent.

i personally dont find being called a paddy offensive.
Pax dei
03-11-2006, 15:56
Same thing I think of people who call St. Patrick's Day, St. Paddy's Day.

For the uneducated:

Pad‧dy  /ˈpædi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pad-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -dies.
1. Slang (often disparaging). an Irishman or a person of Irish descent.
My name is Paddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The only time I hate it is when someone with a british accent calls me by it..
Fartsniffage
03-11-2006, 16:06
Same thing I think of people who call St. Patrick's Day, St. Paddy's Day.

For the uneducated:

Pad‧dy  /ˈpædi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pad-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -dies.
1. Slang (often disparaging). an Irishman or a person of Irish descent.

Paddy is also a contraction of Patrick. Like Chris is of Christopher or Bill is of William.

My name is Paddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The only time I hate it is when someone with a british accent calls me by it..

*finest Mancunian accent* Hello there Paddy
Glorious Freedonia
03-11-2006, 16:15
I am not politically correct, so "******" does not particularly bother me. However, I would be upset if a nice well behaved black was called a ******. To me, a ****** is the the black version of white trash. I would be upset if someone called Colin Powell a ****** but the black boy who got hauled off to jail this morning in my neighborhood for parole violations who knocked up a teenage white girl and dresses like a thug and listens to vulgar rap is definitely a ******.
Pax dei
03-11-2006, 16:50
Paddy is also a contraction of Patrick. Like Chris is of Christopher or Bill is of William.



*finest Mancunian accent* Hello there Paddy
:headbang: :D
Cullons
03-11-2006, 17:06
always preferred negro myself. sounds more cultured.
Wilgrove
03-11-2006, 17:13
I am not politically correct, so "******" does not particularly bother me. However, I would be upset if a nice well behaved black was called a ******. To me, a ****** is the the black version of white trash. I would be upset if someone called Colin Powell a ****** but the black boy who got hauled off to jail this morning in my neighborhood for parole violations who knocked up a teenage white girl and dresses like a thug and listens to vulgar rap is definitely a ******.

I think Dave Chappell once said "There are blacks, and then there are niggers, we need to get rid of the niggers."
Free Randomers
03-11-2006, 17:13
Same thing I think of the word faggot. Say it and you're like to lose some teeth.

Opinions =/= Actions
Offence =/= Assult

As much as I dislike people who use such terms it is wrong to respond with violence unless they use the term with a threat of violence.

respond with words or by ignoring them/cutting them out of your life or suing them if they are your boss, or acting with their approval.
Glorious Freedonia
03-11-2006, 17:18
Sometimes the PC translation sound so much better. have you ever heard of ****** rigging? For those who never did it is sort of like the way McGuyver fixed things in the sense that a lot of duct tape is involved. In my only aquiescence to the PC linguists, I no longer call ****** rigging "****** rigging." Instead I refer to it as "African-American engineering."

"African-American" is truly an offensive term to me as is any other hypenated two word phrase with the last word being "American." America is the melting pot. Once you are a citizen we are all just Americans. I would hate to be called a Jew-American. I am an American and proud of it.
Glorious Freedonia
03-11-2006, 17:20
Faggot is ok because it does not glorify the homo man and it encourages men to be tough and stay clear of the effeminite.
Wilgrove
03-11-2006, 17:22
Sometimes the PC translation sound so much better. have you ever heard of ****** rigging? For those who never did it is sort of like the way McGuyver fixed things in the sense that a lot of duct tape is involved. In my only aquiescence to the PC linguists, I no longer call ****** rigging "****** rigging." Instead I refer to it as "African-American engineering."

"African-American" is truly an offensive term to me as is any other hypenated two word phrase with the last word being "American." America is the melting pot. Once you are a citizen we are all just Americans. I would hate to be called a Jew-American. I am an American and proud of it.

There's a funny story I read one time about the phrase ******-rigging. I'm going to try to find it. It is funny.
Zarakon
03-11-2006, 17:23
It's a jolly fine word, them gosh-darn folks deserve ta' be put in thar' place, and I'ma still pissed about them gosh-damn war o' ta' northern ag'ession.
Glorious Freedonia
03-11-2006, 17:38
It's a jolly fine word, them gosh-darn folks deserve ta' be put in thar' place, and I'ma still pissed about them gosh-damn war o' ta' northern ag'ession.

Dude! Southerners have to recognize that when you fire on a Federal fort and they respond by whuppin your Southern behinds into submission, it is not the North who was aggressive.
Zarakon
03-11-2006, 17:43
Yeah...I kinda know that. I was being satirical...