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When did Willie Nelson become that big of a hippy?

PsychoticDan
02-11-2006, 17:25
I mean, I like horses, too, but jeez...

By Willie Nelson
Special to CNN

Editor's note: Willie Nelson is a legendary singer and songwriter. His new CD is called "Songbird."

AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) -- Will Rogers said, "You know horses are smarter than people. You never heard of a horse going broke betting on people."

However, the horses are counting on the people more than ever now. Nearly 100,000 horses are killed annually in foreign-owned slaughterhouses in America for human consumption in other countries.

With the upcoming Senate vote on the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act, Americans have a small window of opportunity to save a living legend.

Horses are all the things a truly evolved human should be. There are countless examples of their innate ability and desire to heal people.

Consider the therapeutic riding programs across the country, where horses can have more progress with children with various physical and mental disabilities than their own doctors. The most superhuman thing about horses is the contrast between their unearthly strength and inherent gentleness. Humans abuse their power while horses use theirs only for good. I'd rather be a horse.

With no disrespect to the eagle, I've always thought that the horse should be our national emblem. When horse accepted man onto his back and chose to carry his burdens, it changed the world. Horses have aided mankind through his most arduous and treacherous endeavors, from the sword to the plowshare. Humanity owes an incalculable debt to the horse. In Native American teachings, Horse enables shamans to fly through the air and reach heaven. To steal someone's horse is to steal their power.

Contrary to what some people are saying, slaughter is not a humane form of euthanasia, and these are not unwanted horses. The treatment of slaughter-bound horses is most often inhumane, and more than 90 percent of those slaughtered are young and in good health. Many are sold to slaughterhouses at closed auctions, while others are stolen pets.

Humans are not smart to eat horses. Horses are treated daily with products such as fly spray, wormers, hoof dressings, etc. These products have labels warning against use on animals used for food. Anyone with horse sense would not be exporting this toxic product.

The passage of the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act (H.R. 503/S. 1915) would put in place a permanent and immediate ban on both the slaughter of horses in the U.S. and the exportation of live horses for slaughter abroad.

Thanks to the Society for Animal Protective Legislation, which started the national campaign to end horse slaughter, and to those who got involved and called their legislators, the House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to pass H.R. 503. But the fight is not over. The Senate will vote on S. 1915, hopefully in November. Call or write your senators today. Each week our elected officials fail to act on this bill, thousands of horses are subjected to unimaginable cruelty.

For information on horse slaughter, to read my public letter to Congress and to find your senators, go to the Society for Animal Protective Legislation.

There has never been a better time to adopt. I just adopted 11 horses from Habitat for Horses. For information on how you can adopt a horse or give to this great cause, visit Habitat for Horses.

Join me and more than 500 leading horse industry groups, humane organizations, equine rescues and veterinarians in our effort to end horse slaughter.
Ifreann
02-11-2006, 17:27
So what's wrong with eating horses?
Amazing Comebacks
02-11-2006, 17:30
Horses make great sausage
PsychoticDan
02-11-2006, 17:31
So what's wrong with eating horses?

Nothing. I think it's wrong to eat them in America because they are so intinately entwined in our history and culture, but if Japanese people want to eat them, fine. That's not why I posted this, though. I posted this because Willie Nelson is a completely whacked out hippy. :)

Horses are all the things a truly evolved human should be. There are countless examples of their innate ability and desire to heal people.
Szanth
02-11-2006, 17:33
Nothing. I think it's wrong to eat them in America because they are so intinately entwined in our history and culture, but if Japanese people want to eat them, fine. That's not why I posted this, though. I posted this because Willie Nelson is a completely whacked out hippy. :)

Oddly enough, I just saw a picture of Eutrusca, and he looks somewhat like Willie Nelson. True story.
Rubiconic Crossings
02-11-2006, 17:35
no horses....no USA....or Spanish speaking South/Latin America....
Wallonochia
02-11-2006, 17:37
I had horse steaks in Switzerland once. They were quite tasty.
Soviet Haaregrad
02-11-2006, 17:37
It doesn't matter where you're from, it's not immoral or gross to eat horses...

That said, I'll pass on the horse-burgers.
Rubiconic Crossings
02-11-2006, 17:39
no horses....no USA....or Spanish speaking South/Latin America....

and Portuguese...
PsychoticDan
02-11-2006, 17:40
Oddly enough, I just saw a picture of Eutrusca, and he looks somewhat like Willie Nelson. True story.

SHUT UP! :confused:

GET OUT! :confused:

NO WAY! :confused:

YOU'RE FUCKING WITH ME! :confused:

YOU'RE PULLING MY LEG! :confused:
Pax dei
02-11-2006, 17:42
I had horse steaks in Switzerland once. They were quite tasty.
Its not too bad. Wait though untill you try reindeer stew.Make it with stout and its beautiful.Poor Rudolph.;)
Szanth
02-11-2006, 17:45
SHUT UP! :confused:

GET OUT! :confused:

NO WAY! :confused:

YOU'RE FUCKING WITH ME! :confused:

YOU'RE PULLING MY LEG! :confused:

*hug* It's okay.
Daistallia 2104
02-11-2006, 17:45
> When did Willie Nelson become that big of a hippy?

Obviously you aren't that familiar with Willie. He's been a hippy sort since just about forever.

So what's wrong with eating horses?

According to the article, this:
Horses are treated daily with products such as fly spray, wormers, hoof dressings, etc. These products have labels warning against use on animals used for food. Anyone with horse sense would not be exporting this toxic product.

I quite like horsemeat, especially as sashimi. So that has me worried about the potential toxins present in the meat. But the solution isn't banning it outright.
PsychoticDan
02-11-2006, 17:46
The point to this thread isn't whether or not to eat horses. The point is that Willie Nelson is a great, big hippy!

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Daistallia 2104
02-11-2006, 17:54
The point to this thread isn't whether or not to eat horses. The point is that Willie Nelson is a great, big hippy!

Yes indeed - a big-dooby-on-the-white-house-roof smoking (did ya think Toby Keith was joking about "Weed With Willie"?), biodiesel pushing, benefit concert playing, social activist, long haired rednecked hippy, of the sort that makes Texas a truely great state.

And if you knew anything about the great guy, you wouldn't at all be as shocked as you seem to be...
PsychoticDan
02-11-2006, 18:15
Yes indeed - a big-dooby-on-the-white-house-roof smoking (did ya think Toby Keith was joking about "Weed With Willie"?), biodiesel pushing, benefit concert playing, social activist, long haired rednecked hippy, of the sort that makes Texas a truely great state.

And if you knew anything about the great guy, you wouldn't at all be as shocked as you seem to be...

I've got no personla problem with the guy. I've always respected him, actually. But don't you think this is a little over the top?

Horses are all the things a truly evolved human should be. There are countless examples of their innate ability and desire to heal people.

They have no inate ability nor desire to heal people. They're just animals. Useful animals and noble in a certain way - like a dog - but they aren't magical animals that heal people.
Szanth
02-11-2006, 18:20
I've got no personla problem with the guy. I've always respected him, actually. But don't you think this is a little over the top?



They have no inate ability nor desire to heal people. They're just animals. Useful animals and noble in a certain way - like a dog - but they aren't magical animals that heal people.

I think he means psychologically. There's been cases where someone was ill and would spend time with horses and begin to feel better.
PsychoticDan
02-11-2006, 18:22
I think he means psychologically. There's been cases where someone was ill and would spend time with horses and begin to feel better.

Yes. It works. With puppies and kittens, too. It sounds like he means that there is some sort of spiritual intelligence behind all this, though.
Angry Fruit Salad
02-11-2006, 18:25
Okay, I saw the words "Willie Nelson" and "hippy", and my first thought was "DUH!!" -_-

Seems I was right.
Szanth
02-11-2006, 18:28
Yes. It works. With puppies and kittens, too. It sounds like he means that there is some sort of spiritual intelligence behind all this, though.

Oh that's just because he's high. Everything Willie says seems to have a spiritual undertone to it. He's always high.
Angry Fruit Salad
02-11-2006, 18:29
Oh that's just because he's high. Everything Willie says seems to have a spiritual undertone to it. He's always high.

And that's usually a good thing
PsychoticDan
02-11-2006, 18:29
Oh that's just because he's high. Everything Willie says seems to have a spiritual undertone to it. He's always high.

:p
Soviet Haaregrad
02-11-2006, 18:32
They have no inate ability nor desire to heal people. They're just animals. Useful animals and noble in a certain way - like a dog - but they aren't magical animals that heal people.

They might well be useful in therapy, that's not the same as magic healing powers. Petting a cat lowers blood pressure, at least when it's not trying to scratch you. ^.^
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
02-11-2006, 18:52
Nothing. I think it's wrong to eat them in America because they are so intinately entwined in our history and culture, but if Japanese people want to eat them, fine. That's not why I posted this, though. I posted this because Willie Nelson is a completely whacked out hippy. :)


Willie is a fraternity brother of mine buddy! Hippie fits- he is very outspoken for the legalization of marijuana, for one thing. But I think you missed his point. He didn't speak it very eloquently, probably because he was stoned at the time. ;)

His point is, that just like housepets, horses have a theraputic effect on people. In addition to the history of horses in our culture, he notes that horses are intelligent and friendly creatures. Willie is actually making a critique on mankind by claiming horses are smarter. The inherent selfishness and destructiveness of human nature is what he is condemning.

Now, I am not one to campaign for horse rights- but I kinda agree with him. What would you say if all the dogs and cats rounded up by the humane society were shipped off to another country to become lunch?