NationStates Jolt Archive


Nasty campaigns

Bitchkitten
02-11-2006, 00:48
Never know what you'll be accused of. Tax payer funded phone sex. Support for using Tasers on children. Voting against body armor for the troops. They can slant just about anything. How many of us could pass muster?
My personal favorite is one of the ads for a local Democrat. He accuses his opponent of representing child molesters, rapists and drug-dealers. Well, it's true. Because his opponent was a public defender.
Get real. Shouldn't they be required to be a little more than just literally truthful? This last ad pissed me off so much I'm actually voting Republican in that race.
Trotskylvania
02-11-2006, 00:52
Never know what you'll be accused of. Tax payer funded phone sex. Support for using Tasers on children. Voting against body armor for the troops. They can slant just about anything. How many of us could pass muster?
My personal favorite is one of the ads for a local Democrat. He accuses his opponent of representing child molesters, rapists and drug-dealers. Well, it's true. Because his opponent was a public defender.
Get real. Shouldn't they be required to be a little more than just literally truthful? This last ad pissed me off so much I'm actually voting Republican in that race.

Campaign season is horrible here too. I can't stand the mudslinging between two nearly identical parties. It makes me sick.
Dododecapod
02-11-2006, 00:52
Never know what you'll be accused of. Tax payer funded phone sex. Support for using Tasers on children. Voting against body armor for the troops. They can slant just about anything. How many of us could pass muster?
My personal favorite is one of the ads for a local Democrat. He accuses his opponent of representing child molesters, rapists and drug-dealers. Well, it's true. Because his opponent was a public defender.
Get real. Shouldn't they be required to be a little more than just literally truthful? This last ad pissed me off so much I'm actually voting Republican in that race.

Sounds good to me. If the local Dem is that much of an Asshole, he wouldn't make a good congresscritter anyway.
Philosopy
02-11-2006, 00:53
What can you do? There's no way to stop spin, other than to ban telling the truth; I'd say it's better to have a twisted truth than a lie.
Errikland
02-11-2006, 00:53
I know what you are talking about.

Those commercials entertain me, however, though they seem to anger you.
Hamanistan
02-11-2006, 01:01
Hmmm...
Drunk commies deleted
02-11-2006, 01:02
Here are some fun ads.

http://paulrnelson.com/sbcc/personalinfo.php?page=biography&seq=16
The Nazz
02-11-2006, 01:22
Sounds good to me. If the local Dem is that much of an Asshole, he wouldn't make a good congresscritter anyway.

QFT
The Nazz
02-11-2006, 01:23
Here are some fun ads.

http://paulrnelson.com/sbcc/personalinfo.php?page=biography&seq=16

His emails keep getting fuunnier and funnier.
The Psyker
02-11-2006, 02:56
We have a really odd ad that was running on TV here for awhile, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm7Z3RU7YNA&mode=related&search=) probably hurt Pete more than it helped him.
The South Islands
02-11-2006, 03:16
We have a really odd ad that was running on TV here for awhile, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm7Z3RU7YNA&mode=related&search=) probably hurt Pete more than it helped him.

I give it points for creativity.
Slaughterhouse five
02-11-2006, 03:19
the poltical ads here have become very nasty. started out fairly clean and only discussing issues, then it started going into backgrounds. then attacked character. now it resembles the arguements of a preschool playground. im still waiting for one to say "but he has cuties"

it went from a god clean race to all out warfare. both parties have dissapointed me. but i will still vote for the one i agree with on issues more.
Bitchkitten
02-11-2006, 03:22
If you ran for office, what kind of dirt would they bring up. My past drug use and mental illness would certainly disqualify me. Not to mention the bumper sticker on my car in the Bible Belt.--"The only thing wrong with Baptists is they don't hold them under long enough.":D
Muravyets
02-11-2006, 05:46
Never know what you'll be accused of. Tax payer funded phone sex. Support for using Tasers on children. Voting against body armor for the troops. They can slant just about anything. How many of us could pass muster?
My personal favorite is one of the ads for a local Democrat. He accuses his opponent of representing child molesters, rapists and drug-dealers. Well, it's true. Because his opponent was a public defender.
Get real. Shouldn't they be required to be a little more than just literally truthful? This last ad pissed me off so much I'm actually voting Republican in that race.
The Republican candidate for Massachusetts governor did the exact same thing to the liberal Democrat candidate. She ran one ad saying that "lawyers have the right to defend rapists, but do we really want one for governor?" Note the bizarre notion that it's the lawyer's right to be a defense attorney, implying "if he wants to," not that it's a vital part of the legal system. Note also the confused grammar that could leave a distracted listener confused about who the Dem candidate was, the lawyer or the rapist.

The truth behind this was that, several years ago, the Dem candidate worked on a legal team handling a convicted rapist's appeal of his sentence. It was pro forma, and the appeal lost, as expected, and the guy is still in prison now.

The Republican followed that first ad up with another saying that the Dem tried to get a rapist out of jail and "if he had his way," this rapist would be out on our streets.

She is getting raked over the coals in the local media for this, and her poll numbers have been plummeting.

Without a doubt, this is the filthiest election year I have ever seen, and I hope I never see another like it. It's disgusting.
Pyotr
02-11-2006, 05:51
I'm voting republican for governor, because all Granholm(incumbent-D.) has done is compare Dick Devos to bush, I wish I could find the Ad, it show Devos' face slowly morphing into Bush's, it reminded me of the "two minutes hate" from 1984.
Free shepmagans
02-11-2006, 05:52
I've heard "Sonny-do list" so many times it makes me sick.
The Nazz
02-11-2006, 05:54
Without a doubt, this is the filthiest election year I have ever seen, and I hope I never see another like it. It's disgusting.
It is, and I have to wonder if this is the year that it really, truly backfires on the attackers. There's got to be a tipping point at which the public, instead of being turned off and staying home says "fuck this--I'm going out there just to vote against that sonofabitch."
Muravyets
02-11-2006, 06:03
It is, and I have to wonder if this is the year that it really, truly backfires on the attackers. There's got to be a tipping point at which the public, instead of being turned off and staying home says "fuck this--I'm going out there just to vote against that sonofabitch."
Let's hope. Even though there are still a few decent individuals in Congress, I am very much in a pitchforks and torches, "vote the buggers out" mood.

But I'll tell you, I am haunted by pessimism. I have the horrible, horrible feeling that many people aren't even listening. I fear that Americans really don't care anymore. They have their own personal agendas, and as long as they think they'll get what they want out of the deal, they don't care who the pols are or what they do. I read somewhere that in a democracy, the people get the government they deserve. I'm really afraid that's true, because so many of "the people" seem as corrupt as the politicians themselves.
Greater Trostia
02-11-2006, 07:24
Remember kids: Your party represents all that is good, pure, strong, wholesome and reasonable in the world.

The Enemy Party represents all that is evil, tainted, weak, corrupt and stupid.

(And there is no other party. You're either with us, or you're Satan's Whore.)
The Nazz
02-11-2006, 07:31
Remember kids: Your party represents all that is good, pure, strong, wholesome and reasonable in the world.

The Enemy Party represents all that is evil, tainted, weak, corrupt and stupid.

(And there is no other party. You're either with us, or you're Satan's Whore.)
:D
I'm reminded of something Claire McCaskill said on the campaign trail a couple of weeks ago in Missouri about Jim Talent's attack ads. She said "why doesn't he just call me Satan's sister and get it over with?" She then laughed in good humor.
Muravyets
02-11-2006, 07:31
Remember kids: Your party represents all that is good, pure, strong, wholesome and reasonable in the world.

The Enemy Party represents all that is evil, tainted, weak, corrupt and stupid.

(And there is no other party. You're either with us, or you're Satan's Whore.)
Hm... Time to get another t-shirt printed.
Hakeka
02-11-2006, 07:36
Let's hope. Even though there are still a few decent individuals in Congress, I am very much in a pitchforks and torches, "vote the buggers out" mood.

But I'll tell you, I am haunted by pessimism. I have the horrible, horrible feeling that many people aren't even listening. I fear that Americans really don't care anymore. They have their own personal agendas, and as long as they think they'll get what they want out of the deal, they don't care who the pols are or what they do. I read somewhere that in a democracy, the people get the government they deserve. I'm really afraid that's true, because so many of "the people" seem as corrupt as the politicians themselves.

Bob Fenster sez:
We get the government we deserve, which doesn't say much for us or them.
:p
Muravyets
02-11-2006, 07:55
Bob Fenster sez:
We get the government we deserve, which doesn't say much for us or them.
:p

Ah, thanks. :)
Delator
02-11-2006, 08:05
Never know what you'll be accused of. Tax payer funded phone sex. Support for using Tasers on children. Voting against body armor for the troops. They can slant just about anything. How many of us could pass muster?
My personal favorite is one of the ads for a local Democrat. He accuses his opponent of representing child molesters, rapists and drug-dealers. Well, it's true. Because his opponent was a public defender.
Get real. Shouldn't they be required to be a little more than just literally truthful? This last ad pissed me off so much I'm actually voting Republican in that race.

It's pretty bad here too...

...the worst part is that my current Congressman is running for Governor, so we have two BRAND NEW congressional candidates with no real record running against one another.

The Democrat is trying to paint the Republican with the Bush brush.

The Republican keeps calling the Democrat a rich doctor...which is true. :p

The mail and phone calls are the most irritating. They can attack each other all they like on TV, as I don't really watch, but how can I avoid crap sent directly to my home?

It really doesn't help that there are three big referendums on the ballot this year...a gay-marriage ban, a repeal of a smoking ban, and a referendum on the death penalty.

It's bringing out ALL the crazies on both sides of the spectrum...something I could really do without. :p
Keruvalia
02-11-2006, 08:10
Support for using Tasers on children.

Aaaaaand that person just lost the Keruvalia vote.
Boonytopia
02-11-2006, 08:46
That sort of advertising really makes me angry. Paul R Nelson purports to be an honest, upright, trustworthy canditate, but all he does is slander his opponent with half-truths & scare tactics. He's not offering anything positive about himself, not giving a reason why people should vote for him, nor saying what he wants to achieve while he's in office.
Kyronea
02-11-2006, 09:46
Never know what you'll be accused of. Tax payer funded phone sex. Support for using Tasers on children. Voting against body armor for the troops. They can slant just about anything. How many of us could pass muster?
My personal favorite is one of the ads for a local Democrat. He accuses his opponent of representing child molesters, rapists and drug-dealers. Well, it's true. Because his opponent was a public defender.
Get real. Shouldn't they be required to be a little more than just literally truthful? This last ad pissed me off so much I'm actually voting Republican in that race.

Tell me about it. Political ads have become utterly ridiculous in Colorado as well.

""lots of starving African children panorama* Tom Tancredo: A caring individual."

What a bunch of exploitive lies. Fucking bastard.

Oh, and then there's: "Ed Perlmutter: Making government work...for himself. *Yadda yadda gave himself pay raise while raising taxes a bunch of times."

Or "What's liberal Angie Pachonie's real record on immigration?" And "She opposes the death penalty, EVEN FOR TERRORISTS." (Yes, it really was in that red text, too. And I oppose the death penalty myself, ya know. Not a bad thing, morons.)

That sort of advertising really makes me angry. Paul R Nelson purports to be an honest, upright, trustworthy canditate, but all he does is slander his opponent with half-truths & scare tactics. He's not offering anything positive about himself, not giving a reason why people should vote for him, nor saying what he wants to achieve while he's in office.
So, in other words, he's a typical Demopublican.
Bolondgomba
02-11-2006, 09:54
Man, this crap makes me feel good to be an Australian.

Our political ads never get that close to character bashing. Heck, the liberal/labour war is subject to less advertising conflict than the energiser/duracel war.
Multiland
02-11-2006, 10:56
Here's my campaign advert:

GEORGE BUSH

SHAGGING MY 12-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER FOR 5 YEARS

Do you want YOUR President to be A PEDOPHILE?

I even spelled paedophile in American for ya :)
Khazistan
02-11-2006, 12:24
You know, that might just work.
CanuckHeaven
02-11-2006, 12:45
Here are some fun ads.

http://paulrnelson.com/sbcc/personalinfo.php?page=biography&seq=16
Pretty sad commercials to say the least.

I also noticed that there is not too much on his web site to say that he is a Republican, especially no pics of Bush.

I also noticed that they still like using 9/11 pics to sway voters.....now that really is sad!!!
Multiland
03-11-2006, 05:54
As even those who hate the opposition HAVE to get Bush out of office before his new law even starts torturing American Citizens, you MUST vote someone else. For the love of God, PLEASE vote someone else.
The Plutonian Empire
03-11-2006, 06:09
Here in Minnesota, we have mudslinging too. But one candidate stands out to me. Amy Klobuchar. Other than the fact that she is hot, she's being a good citizen and NOT posting attack ads. I'm SO voting for her.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
03-11-2006, 06:20
Here in Minnesota, we have mudslinging too. But one candidate stands out to me. Amy Klobuchar. Other than the fact that she is hot, she's being a good citizen and NOT posting attack ads. I'm SO voting for her.
hot if you're in the middle-or-later aged crowd, maybe...

Postulate: Republicans speak the truth.
Proof: This all boils down to "are your truths the same as mine? what are truths?" truth and history are written by the winners. and since democrats can always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it follows that the republicans speak the truth. QED
The Plutonian Empire
03-11-2006, 06:25
hot if you're in the middle-or-later aged crowd, maybe...
So? She's still hot. :D
Gurguvungunit
03-11-2006, 06:30
Bah! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11894485&postcount=47)

Come to think of it, doing what I just did is no doubt frowned upon. Sorry.
Demented Hamsters
03-11-2006, 06:32
the poltical ads here have become very nasty. started out fairly clean and only discussing issues, then it started going into backgrounds. then attacked character. now it resembles the arguements of a preschool playground. im still waiting for one to say "but he has cuties"
I wish I had 'cuties'. Just two, maybe three. Preferably Brazillian, but I'd also accept Swedish (not Fass!) or Thai.
One of each!
mmmm....cuties.
Neo Undelia
03-11-2006, 06:35
Politicians these days sure are nasty. I mean just look at this:

Thos low down modern politicians. (http://www.authentichistory.com/postcivilwar/cartoons/1884_grover_cleveland_01.jpg)

woops.:rolleyes:

Popular politics has always been a dirty, inefficient and, dare I say, unnatural process.
Demented Hamsters
03-11-2006, 06:40
Here are some fun ads.

http://paulrnelson.com/sbcc/personalinfo.php?page=biography&seq=16
Read the rest of his site. It's so desperate it almost makes you feel sorry for him.
Almost.
If he wasn't a grade-A douchebag.

Like his reasons why you should vote for him:
http://paulrnelson.com/sbcc/personalinfo.php?page=biography&seq=18

Nowhere is it mentioned you should vote for him because of his drive, commitment, positive qualities, convictions, beliefs etc etc.
Just that Wisconsin is a pretty solid Red state and so he figures they should thus vote for a Red congressman.
How lame is that?

The bottom part is interesting, if taken in a wider context:
Wisconsin's Third Congressional District may very well be the sole opportunity in the nation that Republicans have to pick up a seat. 2006 is the year for change in Wisconsin's Third District!

If you want to replace Nancy Pelosi's Deputy Whip with a real Ronald Reagan style conservative - please go here to make a contribution.

How is that for defeatist? Basically admitting that GOP ain't going win squat nationwide. This coming from someone standing for that party!
And then - this is the part I find interesting - trying to tie himself to Reagan. Not Bush, you'll notice. So even the repubs are distancing themselves for GWB.
Ice Hockey Players
03-11-2006, 17:12
Here in Minnesota, we have mudslinging too. But one candidate stands out to me. Amy Klobuchar. Other than the fact that she is hot, she's being a good citizen and NOT posting attack ads. I'm SO voting for her.

I heard the same about Bob Casey in PA...he's hanging back and letting Rick Santorum destroy himself. It won't work, but it's a nice, refreshing change.

Here in my district, we have two House candidates (a seven-term incumbent against some nobody who's actually ahead in some polls) slinging so much mud at each other that some Elbonians have perished in the Earth's core. [ /Dilbert reference ] That and the nobody's campaign people won't leave me alone. They want me to volunteer for them, but I don't have time because I have a wedding coming up, a full-time job, and I just got a new cockatiel, but they keep calling even after I told them to remove me from their list. Worse, the only third-party candidate is a fuckhead. I'd write myself in but I'm not 25 yet. I'll write Peter Griffin in. Or Homer Simpson, as we can't prove he's not from my district the way we can with Peter Griffin.
Fleckenstein
03-11-2006, 17:19
I like two local ads:

I think its Weldon bashing Sestak for leaving the area for 30 years and returning to run for Congress. Sestak was an Admiral in the navy and served in the navy those thirty years. Great laughs.

Swann, running for Pa. governor, stated he wont listen to you if you dont vote.
He hasnt voted in something in the range of the last 20-30 elections: no primaries, no school board, no congress, no presidential. Classic.
Fleckenstein
03-11-2006, 17:20
Pretty sad commercials to say the least.

I also noticed that there is not too much on his web site to say that he is a Republican, especially no pics of Bush.

I also noticed that they still like using 9/11 pics to sway voters.....now that really is sad!!!

But Mommy, who's going to defend marriage?
It's okay honey, we're voting for Paul R. Nelson!

Ron Kind's lifetime rating according to the American Conservative Union is 15 out of 100! (as revealed at www.conservative.org on October 18th, 2006)

OMG, hes not conservative!!!! RUN!!!!!
Farnhamia
03-11-2006, 17:25
Tell me about it. Political ads have become utterly ridiculous in Colorado as well.

""lots of starving African children panorama* Tom Tancredo: A caring individual."

What a bunch of exploitive lies. Fucking bastard.

Oh, and then there's: "Ed Perlmutter: Making government work...for himself. *Yadda yadda gave himself pay raise while raising taxes a bunch of times."

Or "What's liberal Angie Pachonie's real record on immigration?" And "She opposes the death penalty, EVEN FOR TERRORISTS." (Yes, it really was in that red text, too. And I oppose the death penalty myself, ya know. Not a bad thing, morons.)

And did you enjoy the Beauprez attempt to smear Ritter with the 152 plea-bargains on cases involving illegal aliens who committed crimes? Out of some 12,000 cases Ritter's DA office handled? And then, oops, the information given to the Beauprez campaign may have been obtained illegally?

The Musgrave campaign, though, has to be the most disgusting I've seen in ages. The woman has nothing positive to show for four years in Congress. Her ads have been negative from the start.

As the Wicked Witch of the West said, "What a world! What a world!"
Ice Hockey Players
03-11-2006, 17:26
I think its Weldon bashing Sestak for leaving the area for 30 years and returning to run for Congress. Sestak was an Admiral in the navy and served in the navy those thirty years. Great laughs.

Here in Ohio, we have had two people try that angle...sadly, one of them won. Two years ago, Joy Padgett, bitch extraordinaire, accused Terry Anderson of being "part of the liberal media" and coming from New York, "land of Hillary Clinton." Terry Anderson was one of the hostages from the Iran crisis. He was a reporter, yes, but the accusations made against him were absolutely outrageous. Sadly, she won going away.

Awhile back, though, a man named Howard Metzenbaum accused John Glenn of never having held a job. This accusation was made during a Senate primary debate. Glenn shut him down so fast his head is still spinning. Glenn was in the military for a long time and went into space (I want to say he was in the Air Force.) Glenn won the primary easily and served admirably in the Senate. Too bad the fucker who replaced him hasn't.
Khadgar
03-11-2006, 17:36
If you ran for office, what kind of dirt would they bring up. My past drug use and mental illness would certainly disqualify me. Not to mention the bumper sticker on my car in the Bible Belt.--"The only thing wrong with Baptists is they don't hold them under long enough.":D

I like that one!

I couldn't run for office. High School dropout, I'm sure I'd get murdered over that, not to mention the gay thing in a very conservative area.
Farnhamia
03-11-2006, 17:41
Here in Ohio, we have had two people try that angle...sadly, one of them won. Two years ago, Joy Padgett, bitch extraordinaire, accused Terry Anderson of being "part of the liberal media" and coming from New York, "land of Hillary Clinton." Terry Anderson was one of the hostages from the Iran crisis. He was a reporter, yes, but the accusations made against him were absolutely outrageous. Sadly, she won going away.

Awhile back, though, a man named Howard Metzenbaum accused John Glenn of never having held a job. This accusation was made during a Senate primary debate. Glenn shut him down so fast his head is still spinning. Glenn was in the military for a long time and went into space (I want to say he was in the Air Force.) Glenn won the primary easily and served admirably in the Senate. Too bad the fucker who replaced him hasn't.

Glenn was in the Marines, just FYI. And I do love how the Republicans purport to worship Our Troops and yet go out and smear the military records of any opponent they may have, even within their own ranks. We tend to forget that John McCain's military service was not good enough to lead the Republican Party in 2000, but George W. Bush's was.
HIVE PROTECTOR
03-11-2006, 18:12
I'm voting republican for governor, because all Granholm(incumbent-D.) has done is compare Dick Devos to bush, I wish I could find the Ad, it show Devos' face slowly morphing into Bush's, it reminded me of the "two minutes hate" from 1984.

Never know what you'll be accused of. Tax payer funded phone sex. Support for using Tasers on children. Voting against body armor for the troops. They can slant just about anything. How many of us could pass muster?
My personal favorite is one of the ads for a local Democrat. He accuses his opponent of representing child molesters, rapists and drug-dealers. Well, it's true. Because his opponent was a public defender.
Get real. Shouldn't they be required to be a little more than just literally truthful? This last ad pissed me off so much I'm actually voting Republican in that race.

If you'd vote for one party or another on the basis of political advertisements, then you are PRECISELY the type of voter for which these ads were created.

How about voting for a candidate based on whether he or she will actually further legislation which benefits you, your family and your community in some real, tangible way? I don't mean legislation addressing diversionary issues like abortion or same-sex marriage, either; I'm talking about real issues which have a real impact on you personally.

But that might be too much to ask of a fellow American voter. Sometimes I'm embarrassed by how little regard some voters have for the exercise of such an important civil right. :headbang:
Ice Hockey Players
03-11-2006, 18:51
Glenn was in the Marines, just FYI. And I do love how the Republicans purport to worship Our Troops and yet go out and smear the military records of any opponent they may have, even within their own ranks. We tend to forget that John McCain's military service was not good enough to lead the Republican Party in 2000, but George W. Bush's was.

Ah, thanks for the correction. I guess I assumed Air Force because he was an astronaut.

And yes, the GOP, or at least the nutbombs who are in power now, are very skilled at trashing military records. John McCain's wasn't good enough. John Kerry's was a fraud. That Murtha guy was ripped apart. But Dubya "served admirably" in the Air National Guard of whatever state. Remember, kids, black is white.
Ice Hockey Players
03-11-2006, 18:55
If you'd vote for one party or another on the basis of political advertisements, then you are PRECISELY the type of voter for which these ads were created.

In Bitchkitten's defense, she's voting AGAINST a candidate because of his OWN negative ads. If Joe Senator said, "Bob Challenger eats babies and rapes old women while lighting cigarettes with money from the Social Security trust" and she decided, "I can't possibly vote for Challenger," then the ad worked. If Joe Senator ran the same ad and Bitchkitten decided, "Ugh, Joe Senator's an asshole; I can't vote for him" and voted for osmeone else, then the ad backfired.