NationStates Jolt Archive


Is this why Air America is in trouble??

Rubiconic Crossings
01-11-2006, 00:20
lack of advertisers?

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/hp-aa-20061031-lg.jpg

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310008
Drunk commies deleted
01-11-2006, 00:29
Yeah, I guess a boycott by that many paying advertisers would do it. Hurray for corporate media.
Rubiconic Crossings
01-11-2006, 00:46
Yeah, I guess a boycott by that many paying advertisers would do it. Hurray for corporate media.

Do you think this is a good thing to happen?
Infinite Revolution
01-11-2006, 00:49
i don't know what air america is.
Drunk commies deleted
01-11-2006, 00:51
Do you think this is a good thing to happen?

No. If this is what happened then it's basically a cabal of wealthy corporations deciding what the American people can or can't hear on the radio.
Rubiconic Crossings
01-11-2006, 00:52
i don't know what air america is.

http://www.airamerica.com/
Potarius
01-11-2006, 00:52
Wow. The question is, do these advertisers willingly support O'Reilly and friends?

I'm almost betting that they do.
Drunk commies deleted
01-11-2006, 00:52
i don't know what air america is.

It's the Democrat's version of the Republican right wing radio talk shows.
New Granada
01-11-2006, 00:53
why listen to air america and hear annoying pundits when you can listen to intelligent people on npr?
Desperate Measures
01-11-2006, 00:53
why listen to air america and hear annoying pundits when you can listen to intelligent people on npr?

I'm confused about that myself but this is still a bad thing for ABC to do.
Wilgrove
01-11-2006, 00:56
It's the Democrat's version of the Republican right wing radio talk shows.

Which failed miserably.
Rubiconic Crossings
01-11-2006, 00:57
No. If this is what happened then it's basically a cabal of wealthy corporations deciding what the American people can or can't hear on the radio.

Guess what? We agree on something!

What can be done to rectify it I wonder? Not many mega corps out there who are willing to foot a nationwide liberal radio network...

However I am not sure that one can use the 'what will this do to democracy' arguement as it only started a few years ago. What is worrying though is as you say...a cabal of wealthy corps manipulating the media...
Desperate Measures
01-11-2006, 00:58
Which failed miserably.

I could see how it wouldn't hold your attention for very long. It has its fair share of admirers though, who find it a success.
Infinite Revolution
01-11-2006, 00:59
http://www.airamerica.com/

It's the Democrat's version of the Republican right wing radio talk shows.

ah, in that case, i agree with this:
No. If this is what happened then it's basically a cabal of wealthy corporations deciding what the American people can or can't hear on the radio.

not that i generally notice what is advertised in commercial breaks. that's the time for making tea, toast or a drink, or going for a piss, or posting on NS or anything else.
Rubiconic Crossings
01-11-2006, 01:13
no advertisers....no programming....
Captain pooby
01-11-2006, 02:36
If you hire turds as talk show hosts, not many people will listen.

*Shrugs*

Don't get Air America down here, Savage and Hannity are fine though, with some rush on the side.
Dobbsworld
01-11-2006, 02:41
Well, consider this your personal hit-list of corporations who do not deserve your moneys. Consumer power is one of the last vestiges of personal clout each of us enjoys - might as well put that power to work, and vote with your feet.

The important thing is not to despair. Instead, let's see how much they like it when their sales projections are just so much wishful thinking.

Boycott THEM.

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/hp-aa-20061031-lg.jpg
Godat
01-11-2006, 02:45
Well, consider this your personal hit-list of corporations who do not deserve your moneys. Consumer power is one of the last vestiges of personal clout each of us enjoys - might as well put that power to work, and vote with your feet.

The important thing is not to despair. Instead, let's see how much they like it when their sales projections are just so much wishful thinking.


But...but.... Coke AND Pepsi are on that! What have I to drink?!
Dobbsworld
01-11-2006, 02:47
But...but.... Coke AND Pepsi are on that! What have I to drink?!

Royal Crown cola? Fruit juice? Tequila?

The blood of virginal thirty-eight year-old Republicans?

You'll think of something.
Armandian Cheese
01-11-2006, 03:05
Air America is unpopular simply because people just don't tune in; it's been advertised heavily in its own areas, and it simply lacks quality programming.
The Nazz
01-11-2006, 03:18
Which failed miserably.
The business plan failed, not the format, and they're only in reorganization--it's not like they're going off the air anytime soon.
Andaluciae
01-11-2006, 03:34
why listen to air america and hear annoying pundits when you can listen to intelligent people on npr?

Agreement.
Andaluciae
01-11-2006, 03:37
Well, consider this your personal hit-list of corporations who do not deserve your moneys. Consumer power is one of the last vestiges of personal clout each of us enjoys - might as well put that power to work, and vote with your feet.

The important thing is not to despair. Instead, let's see how much they like it when their sales projections are just so much wishful thinking.

Boycott THEM.

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/hp-aa-20061031-lg.jpg

Even the American Heart Association?
The Nazz
01-11-2006, 03:39
Even the American Heart Association?

And the US Navy and the Post Office, apparently, though I guess since they're part of the federal government and thus, an extension of the current administration (because they politicize everything) that shouldn't be a surprise.
Andaluciae
01-11-2006, 03:42
Truthfully, from my exposure to my family listening to right wing radio, I've never heard any of those folks advertised their either. Of course, my sample is small, and I only ever hear it when I'm eating lunch, but, yeah.
The Nazz
01-11-2006, 03:44
Truthfully, from my exposure to my family listening to right wing radio, I've never heard any of those folks advertised their either. Of course, my sample is small, and I only ever hear it when I'm eating lunch, but, yeah.There does seem to be an overabundance of ads for things like adjustable beds on talk radio, I've noticed, and they're bi-partisan advertisers.
Andaluciae
01-11-2006, 04:31
There does seem to be an overabundance of ads for things like adjustable beds on talk radio, I've noticed, and they're bi-partisan advertisers.

Yeah, that's the ad I hear most often when I'm eating lunch and the old man is listening to Rush Limbaugh: Adjustable beds. And every so often, something absolutely terrifying like some sort of herbal sex aid. Ugh. Rush Limbaugh and sex. Ugh.
Dosuun
01-11-2006, 04:39
Hooray for conspiracy theories! The big multi-national corporations are all secretly plotting to secretly bring down the noble and honorable Franken and his Knights of Truth and Justice and the Extreme Left Way! It couldn't possibly be that the companies don't want to be affliated with a far-left organization like AirAmerica or that the ads simply aren't pulling in enough business to be worth it. No! It must be a vast conspiracy! And thousands--Nay, millions are in on it! And out of all those conspiring conspirators a lone figure has had the courage to leak this photocopy of a list of companies that have pulled their funding. Lets all ignore that no reason was given and jump to conclusions!
Purplelover
01-11-2006, 04:40
You can still listen to kpfa on the internet at kpfa.org free radio San Francisco it does not get any more left then that. Air America sounds like conservative radio compared to kpfa. I do listen to kpfa because I love to listen to radical people no matter what side as long as they are not glorifying death and war.
Dosuun
01-11-2006, 04:43
I do listen to kpfa because I love to listen to radical people no matter what side as long as they are not glorifying death and war.
Join the army. It's killer.:p
Andaluciae
01-11-2006, 04:49
If anything, I think they learned the dangers of sponsoring a divisive radio station from what happened to several of the sponsors of Limbaugh, who suffered because of their support (and have subsequently withdrawn it). Most firms actually have a policy of intentionally not advertising on political shows, even if they have high ratings.
Sumamba Buwhan
01-11-2006, 04:55
Tha Pacifica model truely is better because not only don't they advertise, they have no corporate underwriting/sponsorhip whatsoever. They are purely listener funded.
Andaluciae
01-11-2006, 05:48
Tha Pacifica model truely is better because not only don't they advertise, they have no corporate underwriting/sponsorhip whatsoever. They are purely listener funded.

I'll stick with NPR. (WOSU in Columbus, WKSU in Canton)
Drunk commies deleted
01-11-2006, 16:21
You can still listen to kpfa on the internet at kpfa.org free radio San Francisco it does not get any more left then that. Air America sounds like conservative radio compared to kpfa. I do listen to kpfa because I love to listen to radical people no matter what side as long as they are not glorifying death and war.

What's KPFA? Pacifica? If it's Pacifica they're anti-free speech authoritarian leftist scum. I prefer NPR.
Szanth
01-11-2006, 16:35
What's KPFA? Pacifica? If it's Pacifica they're anti-free speech authoritarian leftist scum. I prefer NPR.

From what I've heard of NPR, they're fighting a battle with metiocrity and losing. So says Patton Oswalt.
Drunk commies deleted
01-11-2006, 16:59
From what I've heard of NPR, they're fighting a battle with metiocrity and losing. So says Patton Oswalt.

Well, that unfunny dork is fighting a war against comedy and winning.
Szanth
01-11-2006, 17:02
Well, that unfunny dork is fighting a war against comedy and winning.

I like Patton. He's up there with David Cross.
Drunk commies deleted
01-11-2006, 17:19
I like Patton. He's up there with David Cross.

I'm listening to David Cross right now on Cringehumor's internet radio service.

http://www.cringehumor.net/