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Khadgar
31-10-2006, 19:41
I'll be glad when the bloody election is over, the commercials are driving me nuts. Every third word is liberal. When did being liberal become an insult?
Kryozerkia
31-10-2006, 19:42
When a conservative think tank decided that they needed something to insult a minority without sounding racist, sexist or homophobic; an elegant way of getting around political correctness.
Farnhamia
31-10-2006, 19:43
I'll be glad when the bloody election is over, the commercials are driving me nuts. Every third word is liberal. When did being liberal become an insult?

In the early 90's, as part of the Republican Contract On ... sorry, For America. Disgusting, isn't it? I make it a point to use it positively whenever I can. Perhaps I should say, I use it liberally. :p
Smunkeeville
31-10-2006, 19:44
I get called "liberal" more and more these days, I am begining to think it's a catch-all meaning "I don't agree with you"

:p
Khadgar
31-10-2006, 19:45
I blame Rush Limbaugh. Evil bastard.

The title of my post comes from a commercial here on the radio. It says the word "Liberal" no less than 5 times in 30 seconds, homosexual or gay three times, amnesty for illegal aliens once.
Heikoku
31-10-2006, 19:51
Meh. Liberals should start - and are - doing the same to conservatives, equalizing conservativism with stupidity. Although, it's only a lie in the case of what conservatives say about liberals.
Utracia
31-10-2006, 19:52
We should get more liberals to be proud of the word and not cringe when a conservative nutcase flings it at you. Shout from the rooftops: "I'M A LIBERAL AND I AM DAMN PROUD OF THAT!!!"
Keruvalia
31-10-2006, 19:53
You think it's bad now ... wait until 2008. ;)
Kryozerkia
31-10-2006, 19:54
You think it's bad now ... wait until 2008. ;)

What happens then? Pancakes? MMmmm... pancakes.
Greater Trostia
31-10-2006, 19:54
"Liberal" is a meaningless word, thanks to common usage. It applies equally well to people who believe in freedom (liberty) - i.e, anarchists and libertarians - as to people who believe in huge, controlling, authoritarian government - i.e, socialists and communists, Republicans and Democrats.

When a single word can mean either "up" or "down," that's a sign that that word no longer has any coherent value except for purposefully being ambiguous and lame.
Heikoku
31-10-2006, 20:01
"Liberal" is a meaningless word, thanks to common usage. It applies equally well to people who believe in freedom (liberty) - i.e, anarchists and libertarians - as to people who believe in huge, controlling, authoritarian government - i.e, socialists and communists, Republicans and Democrats.

When a single word can mean either "up" or "down," that's a sign that that word no longer has any coherent value except for purposefully being ambiguous and lame.

You speak duckspeak!

:p
Kryozerkia
31-10-2006, 20:02
You speak duckspeak!

:p

Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack!
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2006, 20:18
Jeez, tell me about it. It's as if the word "liberal" is the worst possible insult on the planet. I can picture it now. Kids on the playgrounds nowadays shouting back and forth...

"You're a doodoo head!"
"Your mother wears combat boots!"
"You have AIDS!"
"You're a liberal!"
**GASP** **GASP** **FAINT** **HYPERVENTILATE**
**slow steps from the one who was just called a "liberal" in the style of an Old West shootout**
**slow pan up to a second-grader**
"Them's fightin' words, varmint. Draw."
Wanderjar
31-10-2006, 20:19
I'll be glad when the bloody election is over, the commercials are driving me nuts. Every third word is liberal. When did being liberal become an insult?

Well, because most people picture liberals as hippies. I'm Liberal (Believe it or not....), but I'm no damn hippy!
Heikoku
31-10-2006, 20:19
Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack!

But I never pretended to be a doctor. o_O

:D
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2006, 20:21
Well, because most people picture liberals as hippies. I'm Liberal (Believe it or not....), but I'm no damn hippy!

I'm a liberal and I'm a damn grouch. I'm as far from being a hippie as you can get.
Wanderjar
31-10-2006, 20:23
I'm a liberal and I'm a damn grouch. I'm as far from being a hippie as you can get.

*Gives Hockey Players High Five*


Join the club. Also, I love Hockey too. :D
Borealium
31-10-2006, 20:26
We should get more liberals to be proud of the word and not cringe when a conservative nutcase flings it at you. Shout from the rooftops: "I'M A LIBERAL AND I AM DAMN PROUD OF THAT!!!"

I think that (apologies to those from other countries for my US-centric perspective) 80% of liberals' problem is that they're/we're perceived as soft or wimps or weaklings.

If you polled the public about a set of political issues, the "liberal*" positions are often more popular than the "conservative*" ones, even among many people who prefer the label "conservative."

* As that term is understood in the USA.
Farnhamia
31-10-2006, 20:29
I think that (apologies to those from other countries for my US-centric perspective) 80% of liberals' problem is that they're/we're perceived as soft or wimps or weaklings.

If you polled the public about a set of political issues, the "liberal*" positions are often more popular than the "conservative*" ones, even among many people who prefer the label "conservative."

* As that term is understood in the USA.

Sad but true, and that perception comes from a liberal's tendency to consider all sides of an issue. To me, a conservative is one who thinks that our best achievements are in the past and should be "conserved." As a liberal I think humanity should look ahead to the future.
Kyronea
31-10-2006, 21:21
Jeez, tell me about it. It's as if the word "liberal" is the worst possible insult on the planet. I can picture it now. Kids on the playgrounds nowadays shouting back and forth...

"You're a doodoo head!"
"Your mother wears combat boots!"
"You have AIDS!"
"You're a liberal!"
**GASP** **GASP** **FAINT** **HYPERVENTILATE**
**slow steps from the one who was just called a "liberal" in the style of an Old West shootout**
**slow pan up to a second-grader**
"Them's fightin' words, varmint. Draw."

You win this thread.

Also: I confuse so many people today whenever I use liberal and conservative, along with lots of other political words, such as anarcho-capitalism. Mainly because I'm using them from the international definition, which they don't understand. Once again, the sad state of our political landscape shows.
Maineiacs
31-10-2006, 21:23
I get called "liberal" more and more these days, I am begining to think it's a catch-all meaning "I don't agree with you"

:p

Quite so, dear. Personally, when someone calls me a liberal, I generally say "thank you!"
Laerod
31-10-2006, 21:34
I'll be glad when the bloody election is over, the commercials are driving me nuts. Every third word is liberal. When did being liberal become an insult?Because some people hate freedom :)
Bitchkitten
31-10-2006, 21:37
I've noticed a lot of liberals now identify themselves as progressives. Let's see how long it takes for that to become a derogatory word.
CthulhuFhtagn
31-10-2006, 21:56
I've noticed a lot of liberals now identify themselves as progressives. Let's see how long it takes for that to become a derogatory word.

If I was less lazy, I'd dig up situations in which it was used as a derogatory word. I vote we use "Jesusesque".
Desperate Measures
31-10-2006, 22:03
If I was less lazy, I'd dig up situations in which it was used as a derogatory word. I vote we use "Jesusesque".

I think you might be on to something. Maybe Liberjesusal?
Maineiacs
31-10-2006, 22:06
Jesus was a hippie. That's one of the things I like about him.
Farnhamia
31-10-2006, 22:08
If I was less lazy, I'd dig up situations in which it was used as a derogatory word. I vote we use "Jesusesque".

I think you might be on to something. Maybe Liberjesusal?

No, no, we mustn't let the Neo-Cons roust us out of our own word!
The Black Forrest
31-10-2006, 22:11
I'll be glad when the bloody election is over, the commercials are driving me nuts. Every third word is liberal. When did being liberal become an insult?

I would say it was during the Conservative Golden age known as McCarthyism.

I remember reading somewhere that Cary Grant went into retirement in 1953 because his friend Charlie Chaplin was black listed for liberal political beliefs.
Similization
31-10-2006, 22:13
First the communists, then the anarchists, then the socialists & now the liberals.
Intangelon
31-10-2006, 22:14
When did being liberal become an insult?

About 1980 in public, roughly 20 years earlier in the chambers and cabals of Conservative Weltanschauung.
Intangelon
31-10-2006, 22:20
We should get more liberals to be proud of the word and not cringe when a conservative nutcase flings it at you. Shout from the rooftops: "I'M A LIBERAL AND I AM DAMN PROUD OF THAT!!!"

I'm with you on that. I have a t-shirt that is charcoal grey and has the word "Liberal" in bright white letters with a period after it.

However, wearing in in Bismarck, where I just followed a car yesterday that had a sticker on it that read "MY SON SERVED IN IRAQ SO YOUR KID COULD PARTY AT COLLEGE", is a risky proposition.

So that's why I refrain from yelling. Instead, I make calm, reasoned refutations of the more vociferous and reality-challenged of conservatives. Yelling lowers me to their level, and if I yelled that I was damned proud to be a liberal, I know I'd only hear something back like "then get out of the country", or "you proud to be a terrorist, too?" or some other such fraudulent claptrap.
Farnhamia
31-10-2006, 22:23
I'm with you on that. I have a t-shirt that is charcoal grey and has the word "Liberal" in bright white letters with a period after it.

However, wearing in in Bismarck, where I just followed a car yesterday that had a sticker on it that read "MY SON SERVED IN IRAQ SO YOUR KID COULD PARTY AT COLLEGE", is a risky proposition.

So that's why I refrain from yelling. Instead, I make calm, reasoned refutations of the more vociferous and reality-challenged of conservatives. Yelling lowers me to their level, and if I yelled that I was damned proud to be a liberal, I know I'd only hear something back like "then get out of the country", or "you proud to be a terrorist, too?" or some other such fraudulent claptrap.

I agree 100% about the yelling. The trouble is, the Conservatives are winning by yelling. Yelling almost always trumps reasoned discourse. So does negative advertising.
CthulhuFhtagn
31-10-2006, 22:27
I agree 100% about the yelling. The trouble is, the Conservatives are winning by yelling. Yelling almost always trumps reasoned discourse. So does negative advertising.

But a golf club upside the head always trumps yelling. And reasoned discourse always trumps a golf club upside the head. It's like some fucked-up game of rock-paper-scissors.
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2006, 22:29
I agree 100% about the yelling. The trouble is, the Conservatives are winning by yelling. Yelling almost always trumps reasoned discourse. So does negative advertising.

Then we liberals need to start playing dirty. We need to just start making shit up about conservatives.

"I'm Joe Senator and I approve this message. Bob Challenger screws drunken sheep and kicks puppies down elevator shafts. He bought hookers on the stock market, was personally responsible for the death of Jesus Christ, and took bribes from Enron executives, which he turned around and spent on cocaine. He also drives a bright red SUV, and he once ran over an old lady who was a day shy of her 100th birthday. He didn't so much as apologize to the old lady. Then he turned around and sued the old lady's estate for damages to his SUV, and his best friend, Jimmy Judge, gave him $13,000 in damages. That ended up costing taxpayers $97 quadrillion in taxes. We just can't afford Bob Challenger. Plus, he smells like cow shit."
Farnhamia
31-10-2006, 22:30
Then we liberals need to start playing dirty. We need to just start making shit up about conservatives.

"I'm Joe Senator and I approve this message. Bob Challenger screws drunken sheep and kicks puppies down elevator shafts. He bought hookers on the stock market, was personally responsible for the death of Jesus Christ, and took bribes from Enron executives, which he turned around and spent on cocaine. He also drives a bright red SUV, and he once ran over an old lady who was a day shy of her 100th birthday. He didn't so much as apologize to the old lady. Then he turned around and sued the old lady's estate for damages to his SUV, and his best friend, Jimmy Judge, gave him $13,000 in damages. That ended up costing taxpayers $97 quadrillion in taxes. We just can't afford Bob Challenger. Plus, he smells like cow shit."

Works for me. And remember these words, too: "I was quoted out of contect."
Intangelon
31-10-2006, 22:31
I'm a liberal and I'm a damn grouch. I'm as far from being a hippie as you can get.

So you're kinda like Lewis Black. Cool. Me too. His stance (and especially his delivery) on many issues resonates with me. He derides conservatives who say global warming isn't real by mentioning that a couple of years ago, a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico was moving -- BACKward. From west to east. That had never happened before.

I would add the recent decimation and substitution of the Alaskan fisheries. Warm water species like flying squid and great white sharks are showing up near Dutch Harbor for the first time in recorded history, and Alaskan salmon are spawning in Arcitc Ocean-feeding rivers for the first time ever...and so forth.

Best of all was his reaction to the guys from the Adelphia company who stole a billion dollars from their company. Quoth Black: "A billion, B, billion. What the fuck were they gonna do, build their own SPACE PROGRAM?!?" And his take on the same guys who stole a few million from Adelphia to build a golf course in their back yard. Black: "What I don't understand is why all the people who worked for these people didn't rise up as one and slay them. I never used to understand why the rabble in the French Revolution beheaded Marie Antoinette -- now I fuckin' GET it!"

Let's hear it for grouchy liberals!
Maineiacs
31-10-2006, 22:32
Then we liberals need to start playing dirty. We need to just start making shit up about conservatives.

"I'm Joe Senator and I approve this message. Bob Challenger screws drunken sheep and kicks puppies down elevator shafts. He bought hookers on the stock market, was personally responsible for the death of Jesus Christ, and took bribes from Enron executives, which he turned around and spent on cocaine. He also drives a bright red SUV, and he once ran over an old lady who was a day shy of her 100th birthday. He didn't so much as apologize to the old lady. Then he turned around and sued the old lady's estate for damages to his SUV, and his best friend, Jimmy Judge, gave him $13,000 in damages. That ended up costing taxpayers $97 quadrillion in taxes. We just can't afford Bob Challenger. Plus, he smells like cow shit."

If that were shorter, I'd sig it.
Ice Hockey Players
31-10-2006, 22:38
If that were shorter, I'd sig it.

You can just sig the first line; that works pretty well. Maybe you can gather up some minions to sig the rest of it in increments. Yes, yes...gather up minions and do my bidding...**does evil thingy with fingertips** **no, not some perverted evil thingy, get your mind out of the gutter**
CthulhuFhtagn
31-10-2006, 22:44
Then we liberals need to start playing dirty. We need to just start making shit up about conservatives.

"I'm Joe Senator and I approve this message. Bob Challenger screws drunken sheep and kicks puppies down elevator shafts. He bought hookers on the stock market, was personally responsible for the death of Jesus Christ, and took bribes from Enron executives, which he turned around and spent on cocaine. He also drives a bright red SUV, and he once ran over an old lady who was a day shy of her 100th birthday. He didn't so much as apologize to the old lady. Then he turned around and sued the old lady's estate for damages to his SUV, and his best friend, Jimmy Judge, gave him $13,000 in damages. That ended up costing taxpayers $97 quadrillion in taxes. We just can't afford Bob Challenger. Plus, he smells like cow shit."

I vote we try to figure out how many of those have actually been done by someone.
Drunk commies deleted
31-10-2006, 22:50
I'll be glad when the bloody election is over, the commercials are driving me nuts. Every third word is liberal. When did being liberal become an insult?

In the eighties when Reagan called it the "L word".
Farnhamia
31-10-2006, 22:59
In the eighties when Reagan called it the "L word".

There you go again ...
HotRodia
31-10-2006, 23:07
I'll be glad when the bloody election is over, the commercials are driving me nuts. Every third word is liberal. When did being liberal become an insult?

When calling people "libertine" as an insult went out of style?

Meh. Liberals should start - and are - doing the same to conservatives, equalizing conservativism with stupidity. Although, it's only a lie in the case of what conservatives say about liberals.

I disagree entirely. I see plenty of stupidity on the parts of many people on both sides of that political divide. We seem to be a people both united and divided by a common lack of sense.
Bottle
31-10-2006, 23:24
In the early 90's, as part of the Republican Contract On ... sorry, For America. Disgusting, isn't it? I make it a point to use it positively whenever I can. Perhaps I should say, I use it liberally. :p
Speaking of the Contract For America, I'm guessing a lot of people around NS General are too young to remember the 1994 press conference on the steps of the Capitol where all the Republican members of the House swore to end corruption and scandal in Washington. Many are probably too young, also, to remember the original TV Guide advertisement used to launch the Contract with America:

“If we break this contract, throw us out. We mean it.”

In this much, at least, I suggest we show the Republicans that they will be taken at their word. :D
Farnhamia
31-10-2006, 23:30
Speaking of the Contract For America, I'm guessing a lot of people around NS General are too young to remember the 1994 press conference on the steps of the Capitol where all the Republican members of the House swore to end corruption and scandal in Washington. Many are probably too young, also, to remember the original TV Guide advertisement used to launch the Contract with America:

“If we break this contract, throw us out. We mean it.”

In this much, at least, I suggest we show the Republicans that they will be taken at their word. :D

I like it. :D

I am continually amazed how everyone running for office in Washington is an outsider who will clean the corruption and scandal out. If it's that bad there, why do you want to become one of them? And how can an outsider, mr. or Ms. I Have No Idea How I Got Elected, accomplish anythingin DC?
Fleckenstein
31-10-2006, 23:49
Conservative today, at least from my view, are more conservative on social issues rather than economic issues.

Like how all of a sudden the gay marriage admendment is mentioned again, after it was an unfulfilled promise by Bush in 2004.
Jorgalonia
01-11-2006, 00:56
Every time you hear the word "liberal" in a commercial, drink a shot!
Pledgeria
01-11-2006, 00:58
When did being liberal become an insult?

"Liberal" became an insult for everyone left of center around the same time everyone right of center became a "neocon," which for some reason is also an insult. (I don't think as many as 10% of the people who use either word as an insult actually know what they mean.)

Meh to labels. I don't think either name is very insulting. It's like saying, "ooooh, you have straight hair."
Evil Cantadia
01-11-2006, 01:44
When did being liberal become an insult?
I think Reagan actually started it. The irony is, many American "conservatives" are actually neo-liberals. People have lost all sight of the meaning of the word.
Maineiacs
01-11-2006, 02:34
Every time you hear the word "liberal" in a commercial, drink a shot!

I can't afford that much booze.