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The clocks went back there on Saturday. I hate when this happens, dark at 4pm! What a joke. I think that DST should be abolished, it is completely unnecessary in my opinion. Anyone else agree?

Yes, the guy who started a thread on Daylight Savings ending a couple hours ago. :p

is good for cows or something.
the bit that confuses me is, what time in the day does it start?
think about it. if goes back at the very start of the day, 12:00am. then when it gets to 12:00am, is it really 11:00pm causae time goes back? then an hour later when its 12:00am, does it go back to 11:00pm? thus forever stuck in the hour of 11!
think about it, all those who mock me in other posts now cannot deny my utter genius!:cool:

The clocks went back there on Saturday. I hate when this happens, dark at 4pm! What a joke. I think that DST should be abolished

then it would be dark earlier all summer too. i think non-dst should be abolished. why waste sunlight in the morning?

we dont need but we just got told we having a three year test on it

then it would be dark earlier all summer too. i think non-dst should be abolished. why waste sunlight in the morning?

Yeah well I should have stated it more clearly but that is what I would prefer.


Gorias, the time changes as the clock goes from 01:59 to 2:00. Instead it goes from 1:59 to 1:00 and you repeat that hour. So you have all the times from 1:00 to 1:59 twice in the that day.

No, the time shift actually takes place at 2:00 AM to avoid that.

As for DST: it was originally suggested--supposedly by Ben Franklin--to conserve candles in the winter. It supposedly extends the length of the day so that candles weren't used as often. Of course, it's all psychological and is completely useless with our modern technology, but apparently, that's beside the point.

No, the time shift actually takes place at 2:00 AM to avoid that.

That's what I said... I never said it was pm.

Yeah well I should have stated it more clearly but that is what I would prefer.


Gorias, the time changes as the clock goes from 01:59 to 2:00. Instead it goes from 1:59 to 1:00 and you repeat that hour. So you have all the times from 1:00 to 1:59 twice in the that day.

good i was getting worried there. i thought i've benn stuck in the 11th hour for days. maybe my clock is broken.

No, the time shift actually takes place at 2:00 AM to avoid that.

As for DST: it was originally suggested--supposedly by Ben Franklin--to conserve candles in the winter. It supposedly extends the length of the day so that candles weren't used as often. Of course, it's all psychological and is completely useless with our modern technology, but apparently, that's beside the point.

Franklin did propose it but there's some question on whether he meant the idea seriously.

Gorias, is "Cluain Tarbh" the Irish for Clontarf?

That's what I said... I never said it was pm.

I wasn't answering your post, but an earlier one. Your post hadn't appeared when I was writing mine. My apologies for the confusion.

Farny: Ah, yes, I see. No way to know, either, since I don't think any of us really know anything about Benny's personality.

Gorias, is "Cluain Tarbh" the Irish for Clontarf?

irish for "meadow of the bull". but it is clontarf.

The clocks went back there on Saturday. I hate when this happens, dark at 4pm! What a joke. I think that DST should be abolished, it is completely unnecessary in my opinion. Anyone else agree?

it really doesn't bother me.

I wasn't answering your post, but an earlier one. Your post hadn't appeared when I was writing mine. My apologies for the confusion.

Farny: Ah, yes, I see. No way to know, either, since I don't think any of us really know anything about Benny's personality.

Very true, I wouldn't put it past Benny to make that sort of joke. I think Wiki said he also proposed having people get up an hour earlier, too. And that he was making the proposal to the French, too.

You're messin with the concept of time maaaan!

You're messin with the concept of time maaaan!

Dude, time is what you make it.

As Bill Bryson puts it, perhaps we should also adjust our thermometers at the same time to make our winters appear warmer and summers cooler.

Well it helps people to remember to change batteries in their smoke alarms.
I mean, God forbid, having to put another post-it on the refrigerator to remind them! :eek:

As Bill Bryson puts it, perhaps we should also adjust our thermometers at the same time to make our winters appear warmer and summers cooler.

A solution to Global Warming! Who needs Kyoto?

I agree, in fact, when daylight savings time comes back, we leave the clocks on the same time, and pull everything else back one hour, exposing the pointlessness of the very concept, and the fact that it is really when people do certain things is affected, and everything else happens when it does, and time is not something to be meddled with.

Frankly, what gets me is how inconsistent it is across the U.S., let alone the world. It's really complicated, and it needs to be simplified in whatever way is necessary.

First off, for the U.S., Arizona doesn't observe DST, but some small section of it does. Indiana doesn't observe DST until next year...until now, my brother lost an hour going over the Ohio-Indiana border going to college in the summer. And he gained it back coming home in May. Aside from that, Alaska (four hours behind EST) observes DST; Hawaii (five hours behind DST) does not. Granted, Hawaii doesn't need it, but still...come on.

At the same time, Iowa was kicking around the idea of observing DST year-round. We just have to make things more complicated, don't we? With states going off and doing their own thing, and with subsets of those states occasionally flipping the states off, why do we have laws designating when DST begins and ends? Why not just have George W. Bush sign a law that says, "Screw it - you states do whatever with DST."

Therefore, if we want to save daylight, we need to do the following - the time we know as "Daylight Saving Time" shall henceforth be observed year-round in all U.S. states, districts, territories, and occupied lands. That means you, Iraq. Soon enough, we prod the Brits to follow suit, and maybe Europe will do the same in time.

That or we just decide, the hell with it all, and forget DST entirely. Standard time year-round in all places. Works for me.

Frankly, what gets me is how inconsistent it is across the U.S., let alone the world. It's really complicated, and it needs to be simplified in whatever way is necessary.

First off, for the U.S., Arizona doesn't observe DST, but some small section of it does. Indiana doesn't observe DST until next year...until now, my brother lost an hour going over the Ohio-Indiana border going to college in the summer. And he gained it back coming home in May. Aside from that, Alaska (four hours behind EST) observes DST; Hawaii (five hours behind DST) does not. Granted, Hawaii doesn't need it, but still...come on.

At the same time, Iowa was kicking around the idea of observing DST year-round. We just have to make things more complicated, don't we? With states going off and doing their own thing, and with subsets of those states occasionally flipping the states off, why do we have laws designating when DST begins and ends? Why not just have George W. Bush sign a law that says, "Screw it - you states do whatever with DST."

Therefore, if we want to save daylight, we need to do the following - the time we know as "Daylight Saving Time" shall henceforth be observed year-round in all U.S. states, districts, territories, and occupied lands. That means you, Iraq. Soon enough, we prod the Brits to follow suit, and maybe Europe will do the same in time.

That or we just decide, the hell with it all, and forget DST entirely. Standard time year-round in all places. Works for me.

Not that inconsistent in the US. Only Arizona of the Lower 48 doesn't observe DST. Alaska and Hawaii, being off by themeselves, can do what they like. If we were to do anything, I think staying on DST would be my choice, I prefer the longer evenings.

Not that inconsistent in the US. Only Arizona of the Lower 48 doesn't observe DST. Alaska and Hawaii, being off by themeselves, can do what they like. If we were to do anything, I think staying on DST would be my choice, I prefer the longer evenings.

Now that Indiana decided to observe it, that is the case. However, so many ideas have been kicked around about DST that something just needs to be settled on. Domestically, I think going to DST year-round for all 50 states is a great idea. For international travelers and businesses, it creates a little more confusion, since the U.S. is an hour ahead of what it should be for part of the year (or all of the year, depending on how you look at it.) Plus, we would need Canada and the Caribbean to go along with it. It might be annoying to lose an hour going across the border to Ontario.

Not that inconsistent in the US. Only Arizona of the Lower 48 doesn't observe DST. Alaska and Hawaii, being off by themeselves, can do what they like. If we were to do anything, I think staying on DST would be my choice, I prefer the longer evenings.

what about canada? they are practically a puppet of the USA these days.

Now that Indiana decided to observe it, that is the case. However, so many ideas have been kicked around about DST that something just needs to be settled on. Domestically, I think going to DST year-round for all 50 states is a great idea. For international travelers and businesses, it creates a little more confusion, since the U.S. is an hour ahead of what it should be for part of the year (or all of the year, depending on how you look at it.) Plus, we would need Canada and the Caribbean to go along with it. It might be annoying to lose an hour going across the border to Ontario.

what about canada? they are practically a puppet of the USA these days.

What happens now when the US is on DST? And anyway, the Glorious United States of America should not have to modify its brilliant plans for world domina ... I mean, for spreading Democracy because some Canadians might be inconvenienced.

Iceland has it all year...

Anyway, it should be abolished because it's retarded and confuses people and is retarded.

I live in Arizona, Where there is no DST

I live in the USVI (atlantic time zone) but go to college in the US (EST). WE have DST at school, but not home, and I never know what time it is the other place. I keep two watches, because I simply cannot ever figure it out.

Doing away with DST would greatly increase my convience on a daily basis.

DST is quite handy. It keeps the kiddies from walking to school in the Winter, while placing prime drinking light at a more appropriete time.