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The Best Language?

TheGracious
29-10-2006, 21:49
I myself think English is the Best Language because thats my Native Language.

Why do you think?
Vetalia
29-10-2006, 21:50
English, German, or Russian. I'm sort of torn between the three.
New Xero Seven
29-10-2006, 21:50
Deutsch... :)
Philosopy
29-10-2006, 21:51
The one you can understand.
Rainbowwws
29-10-2006, 21:51
I myself think English is the Best Language because thats my Native Language.

Why do you think?

Well then....
TheGracious
29-10-2006, 21:53
De goede Taal is het Nederlands!
Swilatia
29-10-2006, 21:55
język polski
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 21:55
I myself think English is the Best Language because thats my Native Language.

Why do you think?If it's your native language do you know other languages so you can compare at all?
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Ifreann
29-10-2006, 21:55
.sdrawkcaB
Ginnoria
29-10-2006, 21:59
I myself think English is the Best Language because thats my Native Language.

Why do you think?

La francais est superieur! ;)
Swilatia
29-10-2006, 21:59
.sdrawkcaB

thats not a languge.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:00
My favorite language is English, because it combines the best of German, French, and a number of other languages. It is easy to learn in the beginning and it reveals an ever more complex structure as you go deeper, and I love the abundance of words (almost all words exist in two forms, one of germanic origin and one of romanic origin) that can be used to express even minute nuances of thought (although this is rarely found in internet forums).
Pyotr
29-10-2006, 22:01
There are a lot more languages besides English, Dutch, German, or Spanish.
Seangoli
29-10-2006, 22:02
I myself think English is the Best Language because thats my Native Language.

Why do you think?

English is a horrid language. There are so many exceptions to many of the "rules", it is contructed in a very difficult way, it is quite unintuitive, and many words can mean many, many different things. However, that's what one gets when the Brits were repeatedly conquered over the course of several hundred years by many different cultures.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:02
There are a lot more languages besides english, Dutch, german, or spanish.None that have a pleasant sound. ;)
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East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:03
English is a horrid language. There are so many exceptions to many of the "rules", it is contructed in a very difficult way, it is quite unintuitive, and many words can mean many, many different things. However, that's what one gets when the Brits were repeatedly conquered over the course of several hundred years by many different cultures.In fact I find English very intuitive. More than French or German.
And what exceptions from what rules do you mean?
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German Nightmare
29-10-2006, 22:04
.sdrawkcaB
Deviltalk?
Rainbowwws
29-10-2006, 22:05
In fact I find English very intuitive. More than French or German.
And what exceptions from what rules do you mean?
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I before E except after C
Add S or ES to make something plural
Hydesland
29-10-2006, 22:06
None that have a pleasant sound. ;)
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Since when is Dutch or German pleasent.:p
Soheran
29-10-2006, 22:06
Spanish. No question.
Seangoli
29-10-2006, 22:06
In fact I find English very intuitive. More than French or German.
And what exceptions from what rules do you mean?
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Really? I find that learning many of the Romantic(Referring to those directly influenced by Latin) to be far more intuitive. Spanish, for instance, is fairly easy to learn(A little more difficult for "speaking" Spanish, as the various groups and cultures have different ways of speaking it, and many slurs, which are seen in all languages, are used, confusing those who learn "technical" spanish). But, I guess to each his own.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:08
I before E except after C??
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Add S or ES to make something plural
-es is only used if just -s sounds bad or is indistinguishable from the singular form
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East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:09
Since when is Dutch or German pleasent.:pRight. Dutch isn't.
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New Xero Seven
29-10-2006, 22:09
German pwns you all!!! Mwahaha!!!!111 :eek:
Seangoli
29-10-2006, 22:11
??
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-es is only used if just -s sounds bad or is indistinguishable from the singular form
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Other instances includes possessive plurals, in which in many cases it is difficult to decide whether a 's or an s' is needed.
Rainbowwws
29-10-2006, 22:11
??
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-es is only used if just -s sounds bad or is indistinguishable from the singular form
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But words like Deer, octopus, spectrum, and mouse
Have plurals Deer, octopii (I think), Spectra, and mice
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:11
German pwns you all!!! Mwahaha!!!!111 :eek:I like Bavarian. But Saxony should be nuked.
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Seangoli
29-10-2006, 22:12
I before E except after C


And in Budweiser.
Poliwanacraca
29-10-2006, 22:12
If I were forced to choose only one, it would have to be English, for the simple reason that it is huge. The enormity of the English vocabulary allows for a wider variety of expression and greater degree of precision; it's a wonderful mongrel tongue which freely steals the best of any other language it encounters, and that makes it more dynamic and expressive than most other languages.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:13
Other instances includes plurals in genitive, in which in many cases it is difficult to decide whether a 's or an s' is needed.That only depends on whether there already is an s at the end of the word. Nothing else.

And what does "I before E except after C" mean?
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Ifreann
29-10-2006, 22:14
Deviltalk?

Exactly. http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/evilgrin/evil9.gif
Ginnoria
29-10-2006, 22:14
And in Budweiser.

Neither of my neighbors drink Budweiser.
Ginnoria
29-10-2006, 22:15
If I were forced to choose only one, it would have to be English, for the simple reason that it is huge. The enormity of the English vocabulary allows for a wider variety of expression and greater degree of precision; it's a wonderful mongrel tongue which freely steals the best of any other language it encounters, and that makes it more dynamic and expressive than most other languages.

Never met a word it didn't like.
Rainbowwws
29-10-2006, 22:19
Mandarin Chinese because the most people speak it.
Haken Rider
29-10-2006, 22:23
Le French, evident.
Ginnoria
29-10-2006, 22:24
This poll is blatantly discriminatory against Sanskrit, Hungarian, Creole, Esperanto, and many other languages. I demand a poll that includes them all.
New Xero Seven
29-10-2006, 22:24
Mandarin Chinese because the most people speak it.

I speak it! :D
Krazy language if you're gunna learn it in school though...! :eek:
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:25
This poll is blatantly discriminatory against Sanskrit, Hungarian, Creole, Esperanto, and many other languages. I demand a poll that includes them all.What's the use of languages without vowels? :eek: :cool: :D
BTW Esperanto is not a language but a mental desease
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Rainbowwws
29-10-2006, 22:25
This poll is blatantly discriminatory against Sanskrit, Hungarian, Creole, Esperanto, and many other languages. I demand a poll that includes them all.

I kinda like sanskrit too
Poliwanacraca
29-10-2006, 22:27
And what does "I before E except after C" mean?
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It's an example of a spelling "rule" which English breaks fairly frequently - which is to be expected of a language with such a mishmosh of etymologies. :)
Ostroeuropa
29-10-2006, 22:28
english is best because its so descriptive.
We have

Glee and happineess and myrth and sanguinity ect,

germans have
1 word to describe all those feelings, varying on 3 strength levels.

1984 anyone?
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:29
It's an example of a spelling "rule" which English breaks fairly frequently - which is to be expected of a language with such a mishmosh of etymologies. :)... yeah, I looked it up on wikipedia by now, very strange. However I never had trouble with that, maybe because I had Latin at school.
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Ginnoria
29-10-2006, 22:29
What's the use of languages without vowels? :eek: :cool: :D
BTW Esperanto is not a language but a mental desease
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How dare you impugn the cultural distinctiveness of the Esperatans. Esperanto is not deceased, many Esperantans speak it in their native land of Esperant, which greatly aids the global economy by exporting clown costumes and blue potatoes. You make Baby Jesus throw up on his myrrh, you cruel person, you.
Haken Rider
29-10-2006, 22:32
1984 anyone?
What about it?
Swilatia
29-10-2006, 22:34
your poll is discriminatory, as it has only 4 options (out of 10!), and fails to have an other option. I give it a F-
Ginnoria
29-10-2006, 22:35
What about it?

Good year.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:38
How dare you impugn the cultural distinctiveness of the Esperatans. Esperanto is not deceased, many Esperantans speak it in their native land of Esperant, which greatly aids the global economy by exporting clown costumes and blue potatoes. You make Baby Jesus throw up on his myrrh, you cruel person, you.Too much LDS? :D
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[yes, i know its LSD, but in fact LDS would be even worse]
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Powershred
29-10-2006, 22:39
Having just two plural endings in English would seem to make it easier to me. Admittedly I learnt English through osmosis but it seems easier than a language like Latin with six different plural endings for each verb and different ones for active and passive vocies and even more for different tenses. I think you'll also find the majority of languages have their irregularities and exceptions to rules.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 22:43
Having just two plural endings in English would seem to make it easier to me. Admittedly I learnt English through osmosis but it seems easier than a language like Latin with six different plural endings for each verb and different ones for active and passive vocies and even more for different tenses. I think you'll also find the majority of languages have their irregularities and exceptions to rules.You learned through osmosis? So you dissolved English dictionaries in a tub and took a bath? :eek:
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Ginnoria
29-10-2006, 22:45
You learned through osmosis? So you dissolved English dictionaries in a tub and took a bath?

The hell? Who does that anymore ... I just add an aqueous solution of shredded science textbooks into my shampoo ... works great.
Powershred
29-10-2006, 22:46
You learned through osmosis? So you dissolved English dictionaries in a tub and took a bath? :eek:
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lol well maybe I have the wrong word (maybe i should dissolve some more dictionaries)
Aryavartha
29-10-2006, 23:19
None that have a pleasant sound. ;)
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You haven't heard Malayalam then.
Soviestan
29-10-2006, 23:42
your poll is discriminatory, as it has only 4 options (out of 10!), and fails to have an other option. I give it a F-

I give you an F- <.< >.>
M3rcenaries
30-10-2006, 00:07
Being as I speak only english and trivial amounts of spanish, I will go with english. Although spanish, french, and german all sound fine as well. Some of the asian langauges dont sound as nice.
Lerkistan
30-10-2006, 00:10
english is best because its so descriptive.
We have

Glee and happineess and myrth and sanguinity ect,

germans have
1 word to describe all those feelings, varying on 3 strength levels.

1984 anyone?

*Insert Jeez, not that shit again pic here*

Let's look at a dictionary...
glee - Fröhlichkeit
happiness - die Beglückung, die Fröhlichkeit, das Glück, das Glücksgefühl
mirth - Fröhlichkeit
sanguinity - Optimismus

Yes, we get Fröhlichkeit 3 times, but you could easily find opposite examples. How do I know? We already had this discussion here :rolleyes:
Maraque
30-10-2006, 00:12
English is my native tongue, but I prefer German.
Lerkistan
30-10-2006, 00:20
English is my native tongue, but I prefer German.

Ah, yes, the actual question of this thread. Among the measly 4 options German, but only because it's more or less what I speak, which probably is a bad reason. And the German spoken in most parts of Germany doesn't exactly sound good.
Desperate Measures
30-10-2006, 00:20
I'm going to go with Sex as the best language.
Chandelier
30-10-2006, 00:34
I would vote for Latin, but it's not in the poll.
Vault 10
30-10-2006, 00:42
None of the listed. You know, there are more than four languages.


I consider the best to be Latin. Reasons - simple, strict, easily extendable, easy to learn, and, on top of that, good sounding.

And it is not completely out, remaining the science language; not to remind that once it was the language of all civilized world. English tries to play the same role, but a language where letters sound different depending on the following syllable and quarter of words are exceptions does not really fit for that, and few people outside US or UK can speak it well (not to mention that even native speakers don't agree on how to speak it). On the contrary, Latin is always comprehensible and can be spoken quite closely even by the Japanese.
Numeca
30-10-2006, 00:49
I myself think English is the Best Language because thats my Native Language.

Why do you think?

Has anyone considered Esperanto? I know it's a bit wierd, and isn't technically a natural language, but couldn't it work?
German Nightmare
30-10-2006, 00:50
english is best because its so descriptive.
We have

Glee and happineess and myrth and sanguinity ect,

germans have
1 word to describe all those feelings, varying on 3 strength levels.

1984 anyone?
That only shows you how (un)common Fröhlichkeit is amongst Germans. We don't need as many words to describe a rarely existant feeling. *nods*

What?

Too much LDS? :D
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[yes, i know its LSD, but in fact LDS would be even worse]
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Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home. :D
I would vote for Latin, but it's not in the poll.
I first thought Latin, but then decided that in German, I could describe things way better. Plus, making new words to describe something specific or incorporating foreign words is really easy and fun.
Vault 10
30-10-2006, 00:54
Has anyone considered Esperanto? I know it's a bit wierd, and isn't technically a natural language, but couldn't it work?

I think the problem is excessive use of prefixes and suffixes. Esperanto is not hard to learn too, but, again, maybe a bit too complex. So I guess the reason for its failure was that there already is Latin which is neutral and was the base for many other european ones.
The Forever Dusk
30-10-2006, 00:58
i'd have to go with english. it isn't one the the very easiest to learn, and it probably isn't the very best to our ears.....but it is the most useful at what language was created to do....allow us to communicate. it is with english that i was able to converse with a group of people from israel that i met in bangkok. english that i used in conversation with germans, australians, and of course the balinese people in bali. with indians in california, new zealanders in indiana, japanese in mississippi, nigerians in alabama......english is the only language in which a person can speak to so many different people around the world
Chandelier
30-10-2006, 00:59
I found this (http://www.totalcatholic.com/universe/index.php?news_id=1533) regarding Latin. I thought it was really interesting.

The Vatican's daily newspaper has called for Latin to be made the official working language of the European Union, after attempts by the new Finnish presidency to promote its use in EU departments.

"While Latin has been given up as a compulsory subject in schools over recent years, interest in the language is growing in Europe and other parts of the world," the semi-official L’Osservatore Romano said in a commentary.

"In these circumstances, it would constitute a suitable instrument for international communication."

The paper said a Latin-language news programme, Nuntii Latini, had been broadcast weekly for the past decade by YLE, Finland’s equivalent to the BBC, making the ancient Roman language "potentially contemporary."

It added that Latin formulations had been found for numerous modern phenomena, such autocinetica (motorway), supervenalicium (supermarket), fullonica electrica (washing machine) and pilae coriaceae lusor (soccer star).

Besides Finland, which has a tradition of classical scholarship, other countries have reported a growing interest in Latin, whose renewed use as a once-universal language has also been encouraged by the Catholic Church.

The Finnish government set up a weekly news summary in Latin when it first assumed the EU’s rotating presidency in 1999, and has repeated the service, alongside English, French and Swedish, since taking over the six-months presidency for its second term on 1 July.

Classics scholars have insisted use of the language would "turn EU jargon into poetry". As examples, they said the Common Agricultural Policy could be rendered as "Ratio communis agros colendi" (“common scheme for cultivating the fields”), while the EU's Acquis Communautaire, or body of laws and regulations, could be Latinised as "Corpus legum institutorumque iuris Europaei."

"Using Latin is a way of paying tribute to European civilisation and it serves to remind people of European society’s roots, stretching back to ancient times," explained Mia Lahti, editor of the Finnish presidency’s website.

"Latin isn't dead – it’s still very much in use in different forms across the world today. After all, Italians, French and Spaniards all speak a new form of Latin."

Several Italian newspapers have backed the L’Osservatore Romano proposal, while noting that Finland itself was never part of the Roman Empire.
Philosopy
30-10-2006, 01:01
I found this (http://www.totalcatholic.com/universe/index.php?news_id=1533) regarding Latin. I thought it was really interesting.

In a bizarre sort of way, that actually makes sense. Rather than fight over which language to use, use no one's.

Having said that, I would be pretty annoyed if they ever tried to do it.
Chandelier
30-10-2006, 01:02
In a bizarre sort of way, that actually makes sense. Rather than fight over which language to use, use no one's.

Having said that, I would be pretty annoyed if they ever tried to do it.

I just remember that my Latin teacher brought it up in class one day.
Philosopy
30-10-2006, 01:04
I just remember that my Latin teacher brought it up in class one day.

I was never taught Latin. I never thought there was any point to it, although I've no doubt that those of my friends who studied Classics would disagree. :p
Chandelier
30-10-2006, 01:08
I was never taught Latin. I never thought there was any point to it, although I've no doubt that those of my friends who studied Classics would disagree. :p

I'm in my third year of Latin. It's really helped me to better understand English grammar. And apparently it's pretty useful on standardized tests.:p
Poliwanacraca
30-10-2006, 01:08
I was never taught Latin. I never thought there was any point to it, although I've no doubt that those of my friends who studied Classics would disagree. :p

Those of your friends who studied science might do so as well. ;)