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Should we punnish criminals by forcing them to join the labor party? What about forcing them to work for little or no pay?

Only if the labor is hard, and very physical, and they have to work out in the hot sun all day long, or in the freezing cold, then I'm all for it.

Should we punnish criminals by forcing them to join the labor party?
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What about forcing them to work for little or no pay?

Yes. Forced labor is a great way for criminals to repay society, and it puts much less strain on the penal system.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_%28UK%29

Yes. Forced labor is a great way for criminals to repay society, and it puts much less strain on the penal system.

Hehe. Penal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_%28UK%29

how does that punish criminals?
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Hehe. Penal.

Penal as in penalty, if it were about penises it would be known as the phallic system...

how does that punish criminals?
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It's British. nuff said.


Penal as in penalty, if it were about penises it would be known as the phallic system...
*gets laughter induced cramp*

let's see:

A guy can't get a job: has no high school diploma. starts getting just a little too hungry, and hits another man with a pipe and steals his wallet.

goes to jail for 10 years, breaks rocks for gravel, gets out in 7 on good behavior.

now he's back on the street. he still has no job, he still has no education, and now he's even less likely to be hired because he has "convict" on his resume.

you can write the next chapter for yourselves.



what if: and this might sound crazy, but bear with me here: we actually helped criminals? you know: do what we can to give them skills for the real world, so they don't have to break the law in order to live.



If a criminal is off the street, he's not committing any more crimes. Isn't that what the system is for? to get criminals off the streets?

why does it matter how bad their punishment is if they aren't getting into trouble anymore? is that justice, or revenge?

sure: we can drag in the lowest ranks of society, put them in cages, make them tar roofs, maybe even hit them a few times.

what happens when they get out? They're in the same sorry state, just with a few more bruises.


Someone who is beaten for a crime does not try harder to follow the law.

he just tries harder not to get caught.

Posi, you silly goose. You're supposed to have at least one real option on the poll.

let's see:

A guy can't get a job: has no high school diploma. starts getting just a little too hungry, and hits another man with a pipe and steals his wallet.

goes to jail for 10 years, breaks rocks for gravel, gets out in 7 on good behavior.

now he's back on the street. he still has no job, he still has no education, and now he's even less likely to be hired because he has "convict" on his resume.

you can write the next chapter for yourselves.



what if: and this might sound crazy, but bear with me here: we actually helped criminals? you know: do what we can to give them skills for the real world, so they don't have to break the law in order to live.



If a criminal is off the street, he's not committing any more crimes. Isn't that what the system is for? to get criminals off the streets?

why does it matter how bad their punishment is if they aren't getting into trouble anymore? is that justice, or revenge?

sure: we can drag in the lowest ranks of society, put them in cages, make them tar roofs, maybe even hit them a few times.

what happens when they get out? They're in the same sorry state, just with a few more bruises.


Someone who is beaten for a crime does not try harder to follow the law.

he just tries harder not to get caught.

So, what about the punks and thugs that don't do crime because their poor, or down on their luck?

So, what about the punks and thugs that don't do crime because their poor, or down on their luck?

Very few people commit crime because its "cool" the justice system is still scary enough to deter those morons.

let's see:

A guy can't get a job: has no high school diploma. starts getting just a little too hungry, and hits another man with a pipe and steals his wallet.

goes to jail for 10 years, breaks rocks for gravel, gets out in 7 on good behavior.

now he's back on the street. he still has no job, he still has no education, and now he's even less likely to be hired because he has "convict" on his resume.

you can write the next chapter for yourselves.



what if: and this might sound crazy, but bear with me here: we actually helped criminals? you know: do what we can to give them skills for the real world, so they don't have to break the law in order to live.



If a criminal is off the street, he's not committing any more crimes. Isn't that what the system is for? to get criminals off the streets?

why does it matter how bad their punishment is if they aren't getting into trouble anymore? is that justice, or revenge?

sure: we can drag in the lowest ranks of society, put them in cages, make them tar roofs, maybe even hit them a few times.

what happens when they get out? They're in the same sorry state, just with a few more bruises.


Someone who is beaten for a crime does not try harder to follow the law.

he just tries harder not to get caught.
They always go for the rare case.:rolleyes:

OK, but what about Bubba. He got life as he used a hook to skin his victim alive before raping the corpse in an Elementary School playground. He eventually gets out and gets a job at a warehouse since now he has his sertified to drive a forklift. He saves up a bunch of money buys some construction matterials, and builds a dungeon in his basement with the carpentry skills we gave him. Now there is a 14 year old girl living in his basement that has no idea where she is.

How the hell does that help?

Very few people commit crime because its "cool" the justice system is still scary enough to deter those morons.

There are alot of morons out there.

So, what about the punks and thugs that don't do crime because their poor, or down on their luck?

A man who does such things not for personal gain, but for enjoyment, is clearly insane.

They always go for the rare case.:rolleyes:

OK, but what about Bubba. He got life as he used a hook to skin his victim alive before raping the corpse in an Elementary School playground. He eventually gets out and gets a job at a warehouse since now he has his sertified to drive a forklift. He saves up a bunch of money buys some construction matterials, and builds a dungeon in his basement with the carpentry skills we gave him. Now there is a 14 year old girl living in his basement that has no idea where she is.

How the hell does that help?

Hmm, why does that scenario sound so familiar?

They always go for the rare case.:rolleyes:

OK, but what about Bubba. He got life as he used a hook to skin his victim alive before raping the corpse in an Elementary School playground. He eventually gets out and gets a job at a warehouse since now he has his sertified to drive a forklift. He saves up a bunch of money buys some construction matterials, and builds a dungeon in his basement with the carpentry skills we gave him. Now there is a 14 year old girl living in his basement that has no idea where she is.

How the hell does that help?

please: don't equate people who steal or sell drugs because they have no alternative to people who rape and murder for fun.

this is a lunatic, and should be sent to an asylum to be cured, not to a prison to be beaten.

A man who does such things not for personal gain, but for enjoyment, is clearly insane.

What about the white collar crime then? He has a job, he's well off, and yet he steals from the company. Or what about the people who do crimes for revenge? Not every crime happens because some poor shmuck is down on his luck.

Should we punnish criminals by forcing them to join the labor party? What about forcing them to work for little or no pay?
Does the Canadian Labour Party lack a u as well?:eek:

Hmm, why does that scenario sound so familiar?

I got the idea from your news outlets.

Does the Canadian Labour Party lack a u as well?:eek:

Huh?

please: don't equate people who steal or sell drugs because they have no alternative to people who rape and murder for fun.

this is a lunatic, and should be sent to an asylum to be cured, not to a prison to be beaten.

Not everyone can be "cured". One would only have to look at Ted Bundy, and Charles Manson to realize that.

I got the idea from your news outlets.

No, it sounds familiar because a serial killer did do that one time. hmmm... I can't remember his name though. He had a dungeon lined up with dollar bills and it was under his house. He would torture and rape his victim before killing them.

Huh?

English versus American spelling

UK=labour
america=labor

Not everyone can be "cured". One would only have to look at Ted Bundy, and Charles Manson to realize that.

then keep them there forever.

as long as they don't break the law again, the system works.

whether than means an education to eliminate the need, or life imprisonment to eliminate the possibility, it stops them from doing it again.

No, it sounds familiar because a serial killer did do that one time. hmmm... I can't remember his name though. He had a dungeon lined up with dollar bills and it was under his house. He would torture and rape his victim before killing them.
And I read about it from an American News source, once it was linked to NSG.

And I read about it from an American News source, once it was linked to NSG.

ahh.

What about the white collar crime then? He has a job, he's well off, and yet he steals from the company.

that is something I have yet to figure out.

I'm not going to pretend I know all the answers, or that I know a system that works.

I do, however, know a system that I find morally reprehensible: slavery and murder.

forced labor and death sentences are crimes that no people should commit on each other.

They might be criminals.

But I know I'm not.

Huh?
Labour=Good
Labor=Retarded Australian speak

English versus American spelling

UK=labour
america=labor

O. I see. I caught stupid for a second and could not decifer meaning from that phrase.