NationStates Jolt Archive

Since someone brought up the subject of the "north" and "south" of the USA, I though I would make a poll about it. I'll include options for non-americans since I can.

New England.

The Midwest could hardly be reasonably considered to be in the "North USA" or the "South USA." It's in the "Middle USA" - hence the name.

I live in Florida.

The Midwest could hardly be reasonably considered to be in the "North USA" or the "South USA." It's in the "Middle USA" - hence the name.

You probably have a similar situation to England, where anyone who doesn't live in the middle considers it not to exist - so that everywhere is either north or south with a thin line between them.

New York

I'm Albanian. I'm from Albany, New York. We may not technically be in New England, but we're pretty close.

And north or south isn't nearly enough of an option. Washington State isn't a whole lot like New York, and Southern California and Alabama couldn't be more different from each other.

The Donut-loving Land of CANADA!

5-6-7-8, this is not a US State!

(Ireland)

Rhode Island

The Self-loving Land of CANADA!

Whoa

5-6-7-8, this is not a US State!

(Ireland)

Nice rhyme right there.

New Jersey

West US ... Colorado.

downeast maine.

as yankee as it is possible to be.

5-6-7-8, this is not a US State!

(Ireland)

Cheerleading isn't very non-American though...

Je viens du Michigan.

Although I identify myself as belonging to the Great Lakes region rather than the "North". I don't really identify with places like New York or Philadelphia any more than I do with the South. However, I do idenitify with Wisconsin, Minnesota, and even Ontario more than I do with the aforementioned places.

You probably have a similar situation to England, where anyone who doesn't live in the middle considers it not to exist - so that everywhere is either north or south with a thin line between them.

I wouldn't say that non-Midwesterners consider us "nonexistent" so much as "unimportant." Darn snobs. :p

A more accurate way to divide up the US by regional identities than "north" and "south" might be something like: New England, Mid-Atlantic, South, Southwest, Midwest, Great Lakes, Rockies, and Pacific. There'd still be a few states or parts of states that can't be definitively assigned to one category, but it gets a lot closer to accurately reflecting where geographical, linguistic, and social boundaries fall.

Je viens du Michigan.

Vous êtes né là?

The eastern edge of the Midwest.

W00t, Chicago!

Vous êtes né là?

Tu parles francais, n'est-ce-pas?

Je parle petit francais.

I live in neither the North nor the South. I live in the Northwest, which is a completely different part of the US.

Tu parles francais, n'est-ce-pas?

Je parle petit francais.

Tu parles un peu de francais. ;)

Tu parles francais, n'est-ce-pas?

Apparamment.

Je parle petit francais.

En francais, "petit" veut plutôt dire la même chose que "small" en Anglais. La vraie locution pour "a little," c'est "un peu." Tout de même, c'est mieux essayer et dire quelque chose d'étrange que de ne rien dire.

Je suis Napoleon! er Canadien!

En francais, "petit" veut plutôt dire la même chose que "small" en Anglais. La vraie locution pour "a little," c'est "un peu." Tout de même, c'est mieux essayer et dire quelque chose d'étrange que de ne rien dire.

O snap!

O snap!

You knows it, girl.

Since someone brought up the subject of the "north" and "south" of the USA, I though I would make a poll about it. I'll include options for non-americans since I can.

:D

I was born in Georgia. Lived there for a year before my family moved to Ohio. We lived there for twelve years then we moved to California. We lived THERE for two years before we moved to Colorado. First lived in Bailey Colorado, then moved to Lakewood after a year(not of our own volition, mind you; had to do with finances. It was horrible.) Then a year after that we moved back to Bailey, in a different house. Then last year we moved into this current home in Pine Junction that we bought. I expected that by this point we'd be moving again since we've been doing that every year for the past five years, but luckily, we stuck to it this time.

Me, Imma move to Aspen Park in April or so, probably.

Kentucky, baby, pimpin' n swingin'! :sniper:

Since someone brought up the subject of the "north" and "south" of the USA, I though I would make a poll about it. I'll include options for non-americans since I can.

New England

Tu parles un peu de francais. ;)

no no

*soft squeaky voice*

il parle petit francais

I am from the middle area.....

Kentucky, baby, pimpin' n swingin'! :sniper:

North of him/her in Illinois :)

I am from the middle area.....

Oklahoma, right? I met some people from there. They said that it was boring, but the pizza is cheap.

West coast.

Oklahoma, right? I met some people from there. They said that it was boring, but the pizza is cheap.

yep, if you are bored you are boring.

There isn't much less to do here than there is in any other city I have been to, but if you live outside the city.....it sucks just a bit.

My dad used to own a farm out in a little town, they had a Pizza Hut, a Dairy Queen, a bait shop.....and a bar.

We had to drive 45 minutes to get to the gas station, and 1 hour to get to the grocery store. LOL

I still wasn't too bored though. (you know because there was a bar.....)

I am an entity from the far-off planet of Magrathea, known as the Destroyer. But you can call me Tim.

yep, if you are bored you are boring.

There isn't much less to do here than there is in any other city I have been to, but if you live outside the city.....it sucks just a bit.

My dad used to own a farm out in a little town, they had a Pizza Hut, a Dairy Queen, a bait shop.....and a bar.

We had to drive 45 minutes to get to the gas station, and 1 hour to get to the grocery store. LOL

I still wasn't too bored though. (you know because there was a bar.....)

By American standards, everything in England is close to everything else. Mind you, it still takes a long time to drive places, due to the traffic.

By American standards, everything in England is close to everything else. Mind you, it still takes a long time to drive places, due to the traffic.

we lived 70 miles from the grocery store (that's 113-ish Kilometers...if you need to know)

Cheerleading isn't very non-American though...
That's rubbish, chanting is almost as old as speech itself.

we lived 70 miles from the grocery store (that's 113-ish Kilometers...if you need to know)

Distances are measured in miles in England. We're mostly metric, but there are exceptions (e.g. weight is measured in stones and pounds, not kilograms).

On one hand, 1 hour is a long journey, but being able to get an average speed of 70 mph is pretty good. I almost envy the lack of ... well, people.

Hawaii.

Distances are measured in miles in England. We're mostly metric, but there are exceptions (e.g. weight is measured in stones and pounds, not kilograms).

On one hand, 1 hour is a long journey, but being able to get an average speed of 70 mph is pretty good. I almost envy the lack of ... well, people.

*learned some new stuff*

so that's what you guys are talking about when you say "I am about 8 stone" (don't quote me on the number, no idea what a stone is)

I have only been out of my country once, and I went to Mexico where distance is in Km, so I guess....I don't know. LOL

*learned some new stuff*

so that's what you guys are talking about when you say "I am about 8 stone" (don't quote me on the number, no idea what a stone is)

I have only been out of my country once, and I went to Mexico where distance is in Km, so I guess....I don't know. LOL

1 stone is 14 pounds. It's the same as inches to feet - I've never understood why Americans don't use it.

1 stone is 12 pounds. It's the same as inches to feet - I've never understood why Americans don't use it.

I don't understand why we don't use the metric system....I mean 1 mile is 5280 feet, such an odd (well, actually even) number....it's easier for the stupid people when everything is 10's

New England.

seems like we have alot more people from the area now

I don't understand why we don't use the metric system....I mean 1 mile is 5280 feet, such an odd (well, actually even) number....it's easier for the stupid people when everything is 10's

Well, it's what you're familiar with. It took the UK about 30 years to officially go fully metric with weights and measurements (the two systems ran side by side until a couple of years ago). Even now, as the fact that I know my weight in stones and not kilograms shows, it's still not made the switch in most peoples minds.

I don't like kilometres, anyway. It's such a small distance for the largest measurement, and so you end up with ridiculously large numbers for distances.

It seems pointless to only have 3 (really 2) American options on what is supposed to be an American poll.

IMO, it should have been:

Alaska & Hawaii
Central Atlantic States (Del, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Penn)
The Midwest
New England
Pacific Northwest
Plains States
Rocky Mountain States
The South (inc. Texas)
The Southwest (inc. California)
US Territory (Puerto Rico, Samoa, Virgin Islands, etc.)

...I'd rather not put Alaska & Hawaii together, but 10 is the max... :(

New England.

seems like we have alot more people from the area now

Yep. Connecticut representing! :D

1 stone is 12 pounds. It's the same as inches to feet - I've never understood why Americans don't use it.
Erm, a stone is 14 pounds.

Erm, a stone is 14 pounds.

I did mean that, even if I didn't put it. :p

Distances are measured in miles in England. We're mostly metric, but there are exceptions (e.g. weight is measured in stones and pounds, not kilograms)
People who make exceptions like that wreck my head. Why are tables measured in metres, but people measured in feet? Why are goods measured in kilogrammes but again, people measured in pounds?

It seems pointless to only have 3 (really 2) American options on what is supposed to be an American poll.

IMO, it should have been:

Alaska & Hawaii
Central Atlantic States (Del, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Penn)
The Midwest
New England
Pacific Northwest
Plains States
Rocky Mountain States
The South (inc. Texas)
The Southwest (inc. California)
US Territory (Puerto Rico, Samoa, Virgin Islands, etc.)

...I'd rather not put Alaska & Hawaii together, but 10 is the max... :(
Agreed, the thread title is Amero-centric, but the poll is more like "what part of the world are you from" question.

I don't understand why we don't use the metric system....I mean 1 mile is 5280 feet, such an odd (well, actually even) number....it's easier for the stupid people when everything is 10's

We tried to convert in the late 70s & early 80s. Mostly it didn't work out, though we still have it on most things in the supermarket. (Beverages especially, but almost everything has both metric & American measurments.)

I do remember highway signs with both miles and kilometers on I-95.

Only 2 other countries do not use the metric system: Liberia & Burma.

1 stone is 14 pounds. It's the same as inches to feet - I've never understood why Americans don't use it.

There are lots of Imperial measurments that "fell by the wayside" here in the US, including rods, chains, leagues, rood, gill, chaldron, drachm, stone, quarter, & hundredweight.

The most likely reason is cultural: just as the US got the Month/Day/Year date format peculiarity, it dropped some of the less useful measurments. Given the number of immigrants the US had from all different areas (ie: Swedish immigrants had miles, but they were like 6 US miles long!), the fewer measurments one had to memorize, the better. ;)

I'm from western Massachusetts. Only moved to Cincinnati. Just to be clear. :)

New England.

old england :)

the original ;)

*learned some new stuff*

so that's what you guys are talking about when you say "I am about 8 stone" (don't quote me on the number, no idea what a stone is)

I have only been out of my country once, and I went to Mexico where distance is in Km, so I guess....I don't know. LOL

I should note that weight is only measured in stones and pounds when weighing people - In the shops, the weight of items is given in grams/kilograms.

Imperial measurements (similar to the measurements you have in America, I can't remember what you call them) continue to be used in casual discussion, even when we officially use metric measurements for something.

In England we seem to have assimilated metric measurements rather than actually converted to them - now we just use both and differ primarily based on the situation...

old england :)

the original ;)

"Original and best" is surely what you meant?

Midwest here. Missouri to be specific. St. Louis to be more specific.

Yay Cards!

Southern California...but we don't really define oursselves as the "South".

See, that's Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, etc.....Republicanville...

We're the SouthWEST! :D

I'm in southern Florida but I'd hesitate to call it the South. Most people don't mean FL when discussing The South.

It seems pointless to only have 3 (really 2) American options on what is supposed to be an American poll.

Well, I based the poll on the idea of the north/south separation that I've seen mentioned in posts. I didn't know what was considered "north" or "south", so I was curious to see how many Americans considered themselves as being from the "north" and how many from the frequently-berated "south".

Well, I based the poll on the idea of the north/south separation that I've seen mentioned in posts. I didn't know what was considered "north" or "south", so I was curious to see how many Americans considered themselves as being from the "north" and how many from the frequently-berated "south".

Yeah, but that's kind of like asking....

Where in the UK are you from?
England
Scotland
Other?

BTW: Berated? I'd not call it that. No more than I'd call England "America's attic". :D

"Original and best" is surely what you meant?

less fire than California, at least ;)
*winces* :p

I'm in southern Florida but I'd hesitate to call it the South. Most people don't mean FL when discussing The South.

Apparently not. When I was in AP Human Geography, the map of the US regions showed southern Florida as a separate region.:)

Yeah, but that's kind of like asking....

Where in the UK are you from?
England
Scotland
Other?
Yeah, well now I know that Americans don't categorise themselves as either "north" or "south".

BTW: Berated? I'd not call it that. No more than I'd call England "America's attic". :D

What does being berated have to do with being an attic (not that I'm sure what you mean there)? Berated means that people are often criticising it, at least that's what I meant.

Yeah, well now I know that Americans don't categorise themselves as either "north" or "south".



What does being berated have to do with being an attic (not that I'm sure what you mean there)? Berated means that people are often criticising it, at least that's what I meant.

Fair enough.

I'm not sure what you mean by berated: I work in NYC, lived in DC for a few years, and often visit South Carolina. While there is a north-south rivalry/jokes/etc, it's not like half the country dislikes or hates the other half!

It's a bit of a joke I have. Being from Slovakia, going to London for me isn't going to Europe. It's going to a suburb of Boston with different money, driving on the left, and just as many Irish. ;)
I joke that it's "America's attic" -- where we keep the old stuff. :D

I'm from Idaho, so I'm from the Northwest I guess.

It's a bit of a joke I have. Being from Slovakia, going to London for me isn't going to Europe. It's going to a suburb of Boston with different money, driving on the left, and just as many Irish. ;)
I joke that it's "America's attic" -- where we keep the old stuff. :D

Well, England is assimilating American culture a bit too much IMO. It's the consequence of a shared language. But I wouldn't say it has America's "old stuff" - the older something is, the less American-like it tends to be.

Not sure how you can describe London as a suburb though... London is more like a world of its own (especially to people who live there).

The Midwest could hardly be reasonably considered to be in the "North USA" or the "South USA." It's in the "Middle USA" - hence the name.

Get real. The "midwest" is nowhere near the West. In fact, it's just slightly west of the East. Then there's the real middle (Dakotas, etc.), the supposed "West," and then the real West, which, for argument's sake, we'll call the Pacific. Then, of course, htere are Alaska and Hawaii, which are in a category almost completely by themselves.

It does genuinely say something about how eastern-centirc a country is when it has four layers of "west" in its contiguous states alone. Counting the entire country, more than 85% is somehow classified as the "west." As you can see, it irritates the real Westerners (ie: Californians, etc.).

I don't like kilometres, anyway. It's such a small distance for the largest measurement, and so you end up with ridiculously large numbers for distances.

The kilometre is not the "largest" measurement of distance in the metric system. There's the megametre, the gigametre, the terametre, the petametre, the exametre, the zettametre, the yottametre...

"Kilo-" is an SI prefix that stands for "1000." Here's a list of the others. (http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html)

The kilometre is not the "largest" measurement of distance in the metric system. There's the megametre, the gigametre, the terametre, the petametre, the exametre, the zettametre, the yottametre...

Yes, those prefixes are terribly underused.

Well, England is assimilating American culture a bit too much IMO. It's the consequence of a shared language. But I wouldn't say it has America's "old stuff" - the older something is, the less American-like it tends to be.

Not sure how you can describe London as a suburb though... London is more like a world of its own (especially to people who live there).

Yeah. The 3 Starbucks in 3 blocks in London proper was a bit much.

Yes, yes it is. But London and Boston are very similar cities, as opposed to say London and Prague or Rome... In all seriousness, when I'm in London it doesn't even register to me that I'm not in the United States! It just feels like being in an odd part of Boston.

It's not like half the country dislikes or hates the other half!

Well, that's not entirely true. I'm from California, and I can't say that a man with a red elephant bumper-sticker and a cowboy hat is going to earn much credit from saying he's a Texan. Especially, around election time.

The kilometre is not the "largest" measurement of distance in the metric system. There's the megametre, the gigametre, the terametre, the petametre, the exametre, the zettametre, the yottametre...

"Kilo-" is an SI prefix that stands for "1000." Here's a list of the others. (http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html)

Do your road signs often measure distance in yottametres, then?

Yes, those prefixes are terribly underused.

Depends on what you're talking about. Decimetre, millimetre, micrometre and so on aren't very rare, and some of the others are used often in respect to grams (kilogram and milligram...) and litres (centilitre, millilitre...). I've come across gigametres and upwards, albeit not in everyday speech, but that's simply because those sorts of distances aren't usually relevant to the average person.

Yeah. The 3 Starbucks in 3 blocks in London proper was a bit much.

You'd hate Seattle, then. The origin of Starbucks, they have several Starbucks per block. The original coffeeshop is a sort of minor tourist attraction.

Y'ALL

Do your road signs often measure distance in yottametres, then?

No, and sensibly so, seeing as Sweden is considerably smaller than a yottametre in any direction. So is the Earth, by the way...

... which of course doesn't make the mile all that much longer than a kilometre anyway (it's just .609 344 or so kilometres longer), so I fail to see the point of your lamenting its size, since miles aren't all that less prone to ending up with "ridiculously large numbers for distances." The metre has a remedy for that, if it bothers you. The mile doesn't.

Y'ALL

Curious: Have you (from your perspective) noticed any strange linguistic tendancies of Californians?

-Aside, anyway, from the crazy tendancy of Southern Californians to say the word "the" before the name of any highway...

(There; you're right. The South is berated.)

Yeah. The 3 Starbucks in 3 blocks in London proper was a bit much.

Yes, yes it is. But London and Boston are very similar cities, as opposed to say London and Prague or Rome... In all seriousness, when I'm in London it doesn't even register to me that I'm not in the United States! It just feels like being in an odd part of Boston.

To me if feels like I'm surrounded by concrete, grime, noise and exhaust fumes when I'm in London. So, I expect that it is like a lot of other cities. However, I've not heard of any famous monuments in Boston, whereas London has plenty amongst all the other shit.

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

You'd hate Seattle, then. The origin of Starbucks, they have several Starbucks per block. The original coffeeshop is a sort of minor tourist attraction.

I was in Kennewick, Washington back in 1996... they had a drive thru Starbucks back then!

Well, that's not entirely true. I'm from California, and I can't say that a man with a red elephant bumper-sticker and a cowboy hat is going to earn much credit from saying he's a Texan. Especially, around election time.

Oy. Stereotype much? :(

I personally hate the 5% of the country that locked the rest of us into this absurd red-blue state BS.

Get real. The "midwest" is nowhere near the West. In fact, it's just slightly west of the East. Then there's the real middle (Dakotas, etc.), the supposed "West," and then the real West, which, for argument's sake, we'll call the Pacific. Then, of course, htere are Alaska and Hawaii, which are in a category almost completely by themselves.

It does genuinely say something about how eastern-centirc a country is when it has four layers of "west" in its contiguous states alone. Counting the entire country, more than 85% is somehow classified as the "west." As you can see, it irritates the real Westerners (ie: Californians, etc.).

I'm not sure what you're telling me to "get real" about. I pointed out that the Midwest is neither "North" nor "South," but rather "Middle." How is that "unreal," and what does it have to do with how far west it is?

Also, your geography's a bit off. The states typically thought of as "The Midwest" are located in and near the geographical center of the contiguous 48 states. If one counts Ohio/PA as "Midwestern," you could claim it to be skewed a little eastward, but you still couldn't make the geographical center of the contiguous 48 states not be located squarely within the Midwest, and a good deal east of the Dakotas.

As for the Eastern-centric issue, I wouldn't let it get to you. While there's no doubt many people in our country have very odd views about what's located where, the reason for the odd preponderance of "Western"-labeled regions is simply one of relative age. The US spread from the Atlantic coast westward. In 1800, St. Louis was located far west of almost everyone in the country, and it made perfect sense to refer to it as such. The Midwest states would nowadays be better called just the "Middle" states or something similar, but names don't work that way. They have a tendency to stick no matter how inaccurate they may have become. :)

To me if feels like I'm surrounded by concrete, grime, noise and exhaust fumes when I'm in London. So, I expect that it is like a lot of other cities. However, I've not heard of any famous monuments in Boston, whereas London has plenty amongst all the other shit.

London: Capital of United Kingdom
Boston: Capital of Massachusettes

London Mass Transit: The Tube
Boston Mass Transit: The T

London: Bond Street area
Boston: Quincy Market

London: The Cutty Sark (clipper)
Boston: The Liberty (clipper)

London: Thames River
Boston: Charles River

London: Hyde Park
Boston: Boston Common

London: St. Paul's Cathedral
Boston: Old North Church

London: Downed, stoned, hung, and pressed traitors at The Tower.
Boston: Downed, stoned, hung, and pressed witches at Salem.

...one can do this for lots of cities, but since Boston was patterned on & settled by the English, it's VERY similar in feel. Much more so than London and Los Angeles or New Orleans. Sure, you'll not find anything in Boston that compares to The London Eye, but then London doesn't have a Fenway Park equivilent. IMO, the two cities are very similar -- feel wise, to me, they're practically the same city divided by an ocean. :)

http://static.flickr.com/58/167394720_a4a4c59617_m.jpg

...one can do this for lots of cities, but since Boston was patterned on & settled by the English, it's VERY similar in feel. Much more so than London and Los Angeles or New Orleans. Sure, you'll not find anything in Boston that compares to The London Eye, but then London doesn't have a Fenway Park equivilent. IMO, the two cities are very similar -- feel wise, to me, they're practically the same city divided by an ocean. :)

Of course, to most people it's:

London: Capital of United Kingdom
Boston: Some place in America

:D

I'm from Maryland, which means I'm in the East and a weird combination of North and South. We're mid-Atlantic.

I'm from Texas and I hate Bush. I agree with the Dixie Chicks. He's an embarrassment to the state.

http://static.flickr.com/58/167394720_a4a4c59617_m.jpg

Now that is urban art.

I'm from Texas and I hate Bush. I agree with the Dixie Chicks. He's an embarrassment to the state.

He's not even a real Texan, he's from the North East, and he just mimics the accent.

He's not even a real Texan, he's from the North East, and he just mimics the accent.

You can totally tell when he's speaking. Nobody in Texas sounds like that; the accent is truly fake. And just look at the way he has to form his lips to make that ham accent even work!

Vous êtes né là?

Oui, et j'habitais là jusqu'à j'ai fini lycée. J'etais soldat pour quatre ans et maintenant j'habite encore au Michigan.

Perhaps a better way to have done it would have been:

Northeastern States
Southeastern States
Midwestern States
Southwestern States
Northwestern States


I'm a New Yorker, born and bred. Better still, an NYC'er.

The Outer Banks of North Carolina!

This poll sucks.


Mid-Atlantic(Maryland)

Perhaps a better way to have done it would have been:

Northeastern States
Southeastern States
Midwestern States
Southwestern States
Northwestern States

I don't quite like that either, since it just doesn't seem right to group states like Ohio and Illinois with states like Nebraska and South Dakota. Perhaps dividing the Midwest into Great Plains and Great Lakes regions.

California was part of the North... right?

Middle Earth, while Numenor to be exact.

I don't quite like that either, since it just doesn't seem right to group states like Ohio and Illinois with states like Nebraska and South Dakota. Perhaps dividing the Midwest into Great Plains and Great Lakes regions.

Well, ok, but at least my try is better than North/South/Anything Else.

Of course, to most people it's:

London: Capital of United Kingdom
Boston: Some place in America

:D

You have an interesting definition of "most people," given the populations of our respective countries. ;)

Of course, to most people it's:

London: Capital of United Kingdom
Boston: Some place in America

:D

And to others, it's:

London: Capital of United Kingdom
Boston: Home

So don't let your perspective run rampant.

He's not even a real Texan, he's from the North East, and he just mimics the accent.

OH NO! Don't blame Connecticut, he was just born here. Texans voted for him twice. :p

I don't quite like that either, since it just doesn't seem right to group states like Ohio and Illinois with states like Nebraska and South Dakota. Perhaps dividing the Midwest into Great Plains and Great Lakes regions.

Been there, done that.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11870153&postcount=49

OH NO! Don't blame Connecticut, he was just born here. Texans voted for him twice. :p

Can we foist him off on Maine? Nobody lives in Maine, so I think they can have him.

You have an interesting definition of "most people," given the populations of our respective countries. ;)

But our two countries are not the only ones in the world, are they?

And to others, it's:

London: Capital of United Kingdom
Boston: Home

So don't let your perspective run rampant.

No worries, I was only making a joke.

Can we foist him off on Maine? Nobody lives in Maine, so I think they can have him.

I like to go fishing there... how about North Dakota?

Of course, to most people it's:

London: Capital of United Kingdom
Boston: Some place in America

:D

That's alright. You guys will have to learn national geography (and learn to enjoy cold beer & baseball) when you become the 51st-54th states in 2043. ;)

That's alright. You guys will have to learn national geography (and learn to enjoy cold beer & baseball) when you become the 51st-54th states in 2043. ;)

Well, at least you admit you're belligerent.

Well, at least you admit you're belligerent.

Belligerent? Not at all! Surely you don't think the US would invade the UK??
You join then due to the fall of the EU and the rise of the Islamic State of Holland.

(ok, I'll stop threadjacking now)

Belligerent? Not at all! Surely you don't think the US would invade the UK??
You join then due to the fall of the EU and the rise of the Islamic State of Holland.

"The fall of the EU" - it's hardly a nation itself. If it falls apart, the constituents would just continue to exist as they always have. And Islamic state of Holland? The same country where cannabis and prostitution are legal?

Besides, Tony Blair won't be in government much longer, so hopefully, the UK won't be the US's yes-man any more.

Under da sea
Under da sea
Darling it's better
Down where it's wetter
Take it from me
Up on the shore they work all day
Out in the sun they slave away
While we devotin'
Full time to floatin'
Under da sea

:D

New England.

Wicked boring.

North Carolina = love.

Northeastern USA, eastern New York.

Perhaps a better way to have done it would have been:

Northeastern States
Southeastern States
Midwestern States
Southwestern States
Northwestern States


Even better, how about including Midatlantic States? And what about Hawaii and Alaska?

Why is the mideastern portion of the US always forgotten?

South USA- Texas

Texas- Houston to be exact. Well... I'm from Houston as in I grew up there, but I lived in OK for the last 5 years. I still consider myself a Houstonian.

SW Pennsylvania

In the MidAtlantic, but really close to Midwest

Why do the mid-west, the west, the south-west, ect all get lumped together in "other"? Other or midwest.