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Title says all.

I was thinking a long time ago (after I brought Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory): "What if a war between North Korea and America actually happened in 2007?

NAAAAH.".

Well, current events have led me to this one, odd conclusion.

Will Tom Clancy be correct in stating (even if he wasn't being a Nostradamus) that North Korea and America would go to war in 2007?

Discuss.

I'll believe it when I see it.

No.

This has been another installment of short answers to simple questions. ;)

Title says all.

I was thinking a long time ago (after I brought Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory): "What if a war between North Korea and America actually happened in 2007?

NAAAAH.".

Well, current events have led me to this one, odd conclusion.

Will Tom Clancy be correct in stating (even if he wasn't being a Nostradamus) that North Korea and America would go to war in 2007?

Discuss.

No, but i can ;)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11866676

Tom Clancy correctly predicted in 1994 that jetliners would be used to carry out attacks kamikaze style.

Tom Clancy correctly predicted in 1994 that jetliners would be used to carry out attacks kamikaze style.


He is obviously a terrorist?

He is obviously a terrorist?

I forgot to mention that it was the Japanese in his book. (Might not seem plausable unless you actually read "Debt of Honor."

I forgot to mention that it was the Japanese in his book. (Might not seem plausable unless you actually read "Debt of Honor."

Kamikazes and japanese? No way!!!! :rolleyes:(is the book any good?)

I REALLY gotta buy some of Tom Clancy's books.

lol @ Zilam's sarcasm.

Tom Clancy correctly predicted in 1994 that jetliners would be used to carry out attacks kamikaze style.

Well, that is a Nostradamus prediction (I.E vague, very vague).

BUT, this new, yet to be proven prediction is pretty percise.

I REALLY gotta buy some of Tom Clancy's books.

lol @ Zilam's sarcasm.

Avoid netforce, Power Plays, and the other spinoffs. They are not written by him. Those are written by other authors, but they use his name because he cmae up with the concept. Just by the books in the "Ryanverse."

Mmkay, thanks for the advice.

I HATE Ghostwriters...

Tom Clancy correctly predicted in 1994 that jetliners would be used to carry out attacks kamikaze style.

Yet "nobody could have imagined it" in 2001... Wasn't it something to that effect the Bush administration has said? :p

Yet "nobody could have imagined it" in 2001... Wasn't it something to that effect the Bush administration has said? :p

Clinton's admin also overlooked it.

Can't you liberals get a life?

do you remember a few years ago when the US "accidentally" bombed the chinese embassy in serbia?

tom clancy had an interview about it on CNN. he downplayed its seriousness saying that there were only 3 people killed--no big deal.

that interview played on cnn in china. the chinese were outraged as if clancy were some kind of US government official being callous over the loss of chinese life. they had huge demonstrations against tom clancy.

my husband was in beijing at the time. he had no problem (he is good friends with the then beijing "chief of police") but some poor norwegian guy almost got killed because the crowd assumed that any blond haired man was an american.

Actually, he did make some pretty good predictions in Red Storm Rising. He predicted that precision munitions would be consumed at a far quicker rate than previously thought. This was proven, to a degree, during the invasion of Iraq. Also, he predicted in the book that the US had several stealth aircraft to destroy key military instillations in a high threat area. Red Storm Rising was written when the existence of the F-117 was only known to a small circle of officers.

Tom Clancy, while no fortuneteller, is most perceptive about the flaws and defects in both Western and Eastern equipment and tactics.

Clinton's admin also overlooked it.

Can't you liberals get a life?

My my my, aren't we touchy today? You felt my post was a personal attack on you? You are a strange one... And what's with the "Liberals"?

And yes, that's true. And I'd mock them as well if I had remembered them saying something like what I mentioned above.

I reccomend getting a sense of humor. It's fun at times :)

I reccomend getting a sense of humor. It's fun at times :)

What is this "sense of humor" of which you speak?

Tom Clancy correctly predicted in 1994 that jetliners would be used to carry out attacks kamikaze style.

At most, he correctly stated the obvious; "predicted" is going a little overboard. At any rate, mentioning the "kamikaze" concept indicates clear historical precident (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11866710&postcount=8) (Japanese terrorists use "Kamikaze" tactics?!? Truely the work of a master of politics and warfare with unique insight). Making the aircraft used a hijacked (another extremely common terrorist tactic) airliner is really a no-brainer.

Yes, I am still bitter over Rainbow Six's super crappy ending. (edit: not to mention pretty boring beginning and middle, etc.)

No, he can't.

He does get TV from the future, though.

lol, interesting results.

But, I'll be convinced once 2007 comes around.

What is this "sense of humor" of which you speak?

Imagine a government official saying that nobody could possibly have imagined something. Imagine that you've read a book a couple of years before describing such a scenario - a book that possibly was on a best-seller list? That smile you feel creeping across your face as the government official keeps repeating his or her statement - that comes from your sense of humor. It's a kind of sixth sense, not everybody posesses one it seems :p

do you remember a few years ago when the US "accidentally" bombed the chinese embassy in serbia?


How can we forget. I also think they "accidentally" deserved it. I am sure it wasn't because they were aiding the serbs with there AD network. But anyway Clinton gave a sincere apology on TV. I believed it.

As far as the Chinese protesting Clancy. Shows how ignorant they are to the world outside of China.

I also think they "accidentally" deserved it.

THAT, my friend, is the quote of the day (even though it's 12:15 AM here).

As I think someone else hinted at. To compare him in an analogy to nostradamus makes sense only if you actually believe that nostradamus had any credibility in the least :p . Not too many beleive that now.

I compared him to Nostradamus in that prediction about the hijacking of planes that someone else posted. It was very vague and can be applied anywhere.

I compared him to Nostradamus in that prediction about the hijacking of planes that someone else posted. It was very vague and can be applied anywhere.

Fine then, I'll entertain your question:

No, not America, China will not let it go that far. I think China is very serious about proving it's capability as a pole. In that way, even if it likes NK, it will come down harshly on it as an example to the rest of the world of its blooming power. I dont think it will be long before China issues its own "Monroe Doctrine". That, and NK has no projection power to speak of.

I used to read Clancy. I have every Ryan-verse book up to "Bear and the dragon". Somewhere after Rainbow Six the quality of his writing had a nose-dive. Gone were the objectivist non-partasian insights. In was pseudo-conservative racist ramblings describing Chinese as 'alien barbarians'.

I like the step-by-step make-your-own-nuclear weapons guide in Sum of all fears.

for the record, I *hate* his books - but he does have something to show for them. ever read "red storm rising"?