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I have read an article and heard people make comparisons between the current controversial terror ad and the "Daisy" ad from the Johnson administration. Do you think there are any comparisons between the two? Are either one made for the main purpose to induce fear in America?

"Daisy" ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63h_v6uf0Ao

Terror ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub_eCwSRQWY

Neither ad scares me. If the terrorists attack us it just gives us an excuse to blow the shit out of a couple more countries that they call home.

I would say the Daisy Ad, given the political climate of the time, we were expecting to be turned into a giant smoking crater almost everyday. I don't think anyone is actually worried that jihadists will wipe out all of america.

Those ads don't necessarily induce fear so much as they awaken people to the realities of our world and burst a fairy tale, idealist representation of the current situation. While they may have the side effect of scaring people, they are meant to inform people of the dangers and should not be misconstrued as some sort of immoral ploy to gather votes via fear.

Those ads don't necessarily induce fear so much as they awaken people to the realities of our world and burst a fairy tale, idealist representation of the current situation. While they may have the side effect of scaring people, they are meant to inform people of the dangers and should not be misconstrued as some sort of immoral ploy to gather votes via fear.

I think most Americans are well aware that there are terrorists trying to kill us...

Those ads don't necessarily induce fear so much as they awaken people to the realities of our world and burst a fairy tale, idealist representation of the current situation. While they may have the side effect of scaring people, they are meant to inform people of the dangers and should not be misconstrued as some sort of immoral ploy to gather votes via fear.

Exactly right. They counter the Democrat ad that features Osama helping out at an AIDS clinic then prancing merrily through a field of daisies.

Those ads don't necessarily induce fear so much as they awaken people to the realities of our world and burst a fairy tale, idealist representation of the current situation. While they may have the side effect of scaring people, they are meant to inform people of the dangers and should not be misconstrued as some sort of immoral ploy to gather votes via fear.

It seems to me that these ads are not meant to induce any kind of rational response. Simply to scare people into voting the way that they want.

I think most Americans are well aware that there are terrorists trying to kill us...

WHAT!!! Since WHEN???? OMFG!!! Someone should do something about those terrorists!!!





:p

WHAT!!! Since WHEN???? OMFG!!! Someone should do something about those terrorists!!!





:p

Relax, the Government has a plan.

That's what the little bitch gets for not paying attention in pre-school math. :mad:

they are both pretty scary, my kid claims that the second is more effective because you have to read and then it's coming at you two ways (seeing it and reading it) as opposed to the daisy ad where you just see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqX27IlPxM

:D

Relax, the Government has a plan.

*dies laughing*

Relax, the Government has a plan.
Whew... glad to know that the Competent people are on the case. :D

I have read an article and heard people make comparisons between the current controversial terror ad and the "Daisy" ad from the Johnson administration. Do you think there are any comparisons between the two? Are either one made for the main purpose to induce fear in America?

"Daisy" ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63h_v6uf0Ao

Terror ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub_eCwSRQWY

Neither create fear. I remember the Daisy ad very well. This is the first time I have seen the terror ad. Neither one inspires me to vote for a candidate or a party. I just wish the parties would quit the crap of ads like this and attack ads and tell us how they stand on the issues.

*dies laughing*

No, they do. Really. It's called the "Deal w/ it yourself" emergency preparedness program.

That's what the little bitch gets for not paying attention in pre-school math. :mad:

And what kind of parents let a girl that young play out in ... in ... what is that, a field? And she's playing with a flower? Don't they know there are bugs and dirt and tics and germs and father-rapers out there? Why isn't she on a nice, sanitary play-date?

I hadn't heard the Johnson ad in ages. I found the voice-over interesting, especially where he says "We either have to love each other or die." No noe says "Die" like a texan.

No, they do. Really. It's called the "Deal w/ it yourself" emergency preparedness program.

so we no longer do the "stop, drop, place your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye" plan?

so we no longer do the "stop, drop, place your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye" plan?

You know, I always did wonder why we did that fetal position pose that seems like we're kissing our own asses. Now I know.

so we no longer do the "stop, drop, place your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye" plan?

Different enemy, different ineffective method.

And what kind of parents let a girl that young play out in ... in ... what is that, a field? And she's playing with a flower? Don't they know there are bugs and dirt and tics and germs and father-rapers out there? Why isn't she on a nice, sanitary play-date?

I hadn't heard the Johnson ad in ages. I found the voice-over interesting, especially where he says "We either have to love each other or die." No noe says "Die" like a texan.

So when you see a Big Texan Redneck with a shotgun and he asks you.. "Do you love me" what would your answer really be?

http://nelson.sitebuilder.completecampaigns.com/common/media.php?id=6398

So when you see a Big Texan Redneck with a shotgun and he asks you.. "Do you love me" what would your answer really be?

"Why, of course Ah do, Sugah."

http://nelson.sitebuilder.completecampaigns.com/common/media.php?id=6398

Oookkk....

And what kind of parents let a girl that young play out in ... in ... what is that, a field? And she's playing with a flower? Don't they know there are bugs and dirt and tics and germs and father-rapers out there? Why isn't she on a nice, sanitary play-date?

I hadn't heard the Johnson ad in ages. I found the voice-over interesting, especially where he says "We either have to love each other or die." No noe says "Die" like a texan.

I forgot where I heard it, but from what I understand the Johnson people asked the girl to purposefully miscount to further emphesize the "childlike innocence" or something like that. That it is more cute to see her make mistakes counting then if she did it correctly.

Oookkk....

He also voted to destroy marriage.

http://paulrnelson.com/content/video/Defend_Marriage_Wedding__8_1_4720.mp3

In the daisy ad, everyone dies, in the second ad, a handful of people die.

I say the daisy ad is more terrifying.

I forgot where I heard it, but from what I understand the Johnson people asked the girl to purposefully miscount to further emphesize the "childlike innocence" or something like that. That it is more cute to see her make mistakes counting then if she did it correctly.

I wouldn't be surprised. The ad was pullled rather quickly, if I remember correctly.

Neither scares me in the slightest and both are hopelessly melodramatic.

As long as the people continue to respond so predictably to fear, politicians will continue to scare us.

And what kind of parents let a girl that young play out in ... in ... what is that, a field? And she's playing with a flower? Don't they know there are bugs and dirt and tics and germs and father-rapers out there? Why isn't she on a nice, sanitary play-date?

I hadn't heard the Johnson ad in ages. I found the voice-over interesting, especially where he says "We either have to love each other or die." No noe says "Die" like a texan.

It's clearly an intentionally open area reserved for invidiuals who choose to celebrate the witching hour. Her kind should have been eliminated before the 1700s even began.

so we no longer do the "stop, drop, place your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye" plan?

You forgot "under the desk." :p

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He also voted to destroy marriage.

http://paulrnelson.com/content/video/Defend_Marriage_Wedding__8_1_4720.mp3

Wow...it's like sketch comedy.

http://nelson.sitebuilder.completecampaigns.com/common/media.php?id=6398

Man, that guy standing in front of the wall sure looked like...Bill.

And what kind of parents let a girl that young play out in ... in ... what is that, a field? And she's playing with a flower? Don't they know there are bugs and dirt and tics and germs and father-rapers out there? Why isn't she on a nice, sanitary play-date?

I hadn't heard the Johnson ad in ages. I found the voice-over interesting, especially where he says "We either have to love each other or die." No noe says "Die" like a texan.


Oh you did NOT just say father-rapers did you?

Now I will have "you can get anything you want" and 8X10 glossy photographs and veins in teeth on my mind for the next day or two!

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NB wins! I love that ad!

THIS (http://www.bravia-advert.com/paint/thead/) is the scariest ad of all, damned clown taggers

That's amazing! I really, really want to recreate that next fourth of July with homemade blackpowder fireworks and cheap paint.

Oh you did NOT just say father-rapers did you?

Now I will have "you can get anything you want" and 8X10 glossy photographs and veins in teeth on my mind for the next day or two!

My work here is done. :p

That's amazing! I really, really want to recreate that next fourth of July with homemade blackpowder fireworks and cheap paint.

I'm wondering whether Mentos and clear soda with food coloring would do it?

My work here is done. :p

Curse you Farny!:D

As ads go, the terror ad is more scary. It could be because the Daisy Kid didn't even know how to count right (she couldn't even make it to 10, and she looked too old for that)...not exactly a big loss if she goes kaboom :p

It may have been different if I was around for Johnson's time, but I wasn't (well, I was 1 yr old in his last year in office according to Wiki's time frame...not old enough to give a hoot, obviously!), so that does make Daisy seem remote. Also it was probably pretty predictable what would be a nuke target, as opposed to terrorism, which seems to just aim at whatever's handy.

Curse you Farny!:D

Did you know that's Matthew Broderick's Dad playing Alice's husband?

He also voted to destroy marriage.

http://paulrnelson.com/content/video/Defend_Marriage_Wedding__8_1_4720.mp3

WTF :confused: :confused: What the hell did he vote on :confused:

You forgot "under the desk." :p

Or curl up next to a curb-Obey the Turtle (http://www.archive.org/details/DuckandC1951)!

Oh, and clean your house (http://www.archive.org/details/Houseint1954)

Did you know that's Matthew Broderick's Dad playing Alice's husband?

No, but I never saw the movie. Ive practically memorised the song/story by Arlo Guthrie though.

Is the film a good un?

WTF :confused: :confused: What the hell did he vote on :confused:

Probably voted for gay marriage.

Or curl up next to a curb-Obey the Turtle (http://www.archive.org/details/DuckandC1951)!

Oh, and clean your house (http://www.archive.org/details/Houseint1954)

I watched some of those nuclear bomb tests live on TV back in the 50's. In the 60's I sat on a big nuc bomb inside a B-52 while repairing the autopilot system.

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Are we all going to die in a barrage of color?

I watched some of those nuclear bomb tests live on TV back in the 50's. In the 60's I sat on a big nuc bomb inside a B-52 while repairing the autopilot system.

Somehow reminded me of something of Mr. Lehrer's ...

Now if I may indulge in a bit of personal history, a few years ago I worked for a while at the Los Alamos scientific laboratory in New Mexico. I had a job there as a spy. No, I guess you know that the staff out there at that time was composed almost exclusively of spies... of one persuasion or another. And, while I was out there, I came to realize how much the Wild West had changed since the good old days of Wyatt Earp and Home on the Range, and here then is a modern cowboy ballad commemorating that delightful metamorphosis called The Wild West Is Where I Wanna Be.

Along the trail you'll find me lopin'
Where the spaces are wide open,
In the land of the old A.E.C. (yea-hah!)
Where the scenery's attractive,
And the air is radioactive,
Oh, the wild west is where I wanna be.

Mid the sagebrush and the cactus,
I'll watch the fellas practice
Droppin' bombs through the clean desert breeze.
I'll have on my sombrero,
And of course I'll wear a pair o'
Levis over my lead B.V.D.'s.

Ah will leave the city's rush,
Leave the fancy and the plush,
Leave the snow and leave the slush
And the crowds.
Ah will seek the desert's hush,
Where the scenery is lush,
How I long to see the mush-
room clouds.

'Mid the yuccas and the thistles
I'll watch the guided missiles,
While the old F.B.I. watches me. (yea-hah!)
Yes, I'll soon make my appearance
(Soon as I can get my clearance),
'Cause the wild west is where I wanna be.

Neither create fear. I remember the Daisy ad very well. This is the first time I have seen the terror ad. Neither one inspires me to vote for a candidate or a party. I just wish the parties would quit the crap of ads like this and attack ads and tell us how they stand on the issues.

I can tell you this: The GOP does not like terrorists one bit. Now, if only liberals will tell us how they feel about being blown up we can get a real discussion going.

Somehow reminded me of something of Mr. Lehrer's ...

Kool! Never saw or heard that one before. Thanks.

Are we all going to die in a barrage of color?


Thems what dies be the lucky ones.

I can tell you this: The GOP does not like terrorists one bit. Now, if only liberals will tell us how they feel about being blown up we can get a real discussion going.

I wonder how anyone feels about being blown up? But I'm sure liberals don't agree with the obvious fearmongering of ads like that. I certainly don't care for either.

Thems what dies be the lucky ones.

I suppose the rest of us will be stuck living in really tacky clothing.

You can't really compare the two.

The daisy ad scared the crap out of people because it brought the reality of nuclear annihilation.

People now have seen too many nuke explosions on tv and movies and really don't think about it missile strikes like in the cold war.

The terror add is rather poorly laid out. Daisy was shocking. The terror add had too much reading. Even in the end it was like "whatever"

Of the two; the daisy ad is better.....

You can't really compare the two.

The daisy ad scared the crap out of people because it brought the reality of nuclear annihilation.

People now have seen too many nuke explosions on tv and movies and really don't think about it missile strikes like in the cold war.

The terror add is rather poorly laid out. Daisy was shocking. The terror add had too much reading. Even in the end it was like "whatever"

Of the two; the daisy ad is better.....

I suppose the terror ad is simply the same old same old? "Terrorist attack immeninent, the GOP will protect you and the Dems will lead you to your death?

both the videos take too long to load.

neither particularily scares me.

both the videos take too long to load.

I can't help if your computer doesn't like the videos. :p

They are both quite effective in bringing about the desired reaction I think. For those who are easily frightened anyway. Seeing those ads will now have the simpleminded thinking about nuclear weapons and terrorists hiding in the bushes. How these two things will now kill them if you don't elect certain politicians.

I chose 'Whatever other option you are thinking' cause right now I'm thinking how great a breakfast strong black coffee and fresh donuts makes.
hmmmmm...coffee...donuts....



I'm also thinking about a very attractive German girl I was snogging last night.



Meanwhile you're all talking about war and politics and such.


Does this make me a shallow person?

If the terrorists attack us it just gives us an excuse to blow the shit out of a couple more countries that they call home.

Or countries that they don't call home, but are full of brown people so it doesn't matter.

Or countries that they don't call home, but are full of brown people so it doesn't matter.

Hey, Iraq was swarming with terrorists wasn't it? Oh, wait...

I suppose though that now we are all supposed to be so scared that we will give up some of our rights to be "protected". The GOP is being overly optomistic methinks.

You can't really compare the two.

The daisy ad scared the crap out of people because it brought the reality of nuclear annihilation.

People now have seen too many nuke explosions on tv and movies and really don't think about it missile strikes like in the cold war.

The terror add is rather poorly laid out. Daisy was shocking. The terror add had too much reading. Even in the end it was like "whatever"

Of the two; the daisy ad is better.....

I'm still much more afraid of nuclear annihilation than I am of terrorists. Even if there was a major terrorist attack, though it'd be tragic, it wouldn't cause the near-total destruction of civilization. However, if one nuke goes off accidentally, or a detection system gets a false reading from something else...there's a very real possibility that the world's nuclear nations will retaliate against the perceived threat. And that'd be very, very bad.

Or countries that they don't call home, but are full of brown people so it doesn't matter.

Yeah, like Iraq, but maybe we'll hit guilty countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran next time.

I have read an article and heard people make comparisons between the current controversial terror ad and the "Daisy" ad from the Johnson administration. Do you think there are any comparisons between the two? Are either one made for the main purpose to induce fear in America?

"Daisy" ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63h_v6uf0Ao

Terror ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub_eCwSRQWY
Bush's movie making crew makes Johnson's look like rank amateurs.

Or countries that they don't call home, but are full of brown people so it doesn't matter.
Maybe you find it hard to understand, but not everyone is a racist.

I'm still much more afraid of nuclear annihilation than I am of terrorists. Even if there was a major terrorist attack, though it'd be tragic, it wouldn't cause the near-total destruction of civilization. However, if one nuke goes off accidentally, or a detection system gets a false reading from something else...there's a very real possibility that the world's nuclear nations will retaliate against the perceived threat. And that'd be very, very bad.

Yeah but apparently a bunch of masked men dancing with rifles over their heads and a couple of wackos making speeches is supposed to cause the American people to panic and vote for the GOP because obviously they are the only ones who can stop those people from bringing down all civilization. Clearly more dangerous then nuclear destruction but then the Bush people aren't completely rational I think.

Then again maybe the ad is completely on the level. :rolleyes:

Yeah, like Iraq, but maybe we'll hit guilty countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran next time.

I find it hard that you can believe a country can be "guilty." Hello, personal responsibility?

Let me ask you this - is the USA guilty? We invaded Iraq, for basically no valid reason. You seem to think if a government does something guilty (or is assumed to), that's a moral justification to bomb innocent civilians. Is it?

I find it hard that you can believe a country can be "guilty." Hello, personal responsibility?

Let me ask you this - is the USA guilty? We invaded Iraq, for basically no valid reason. You seem to think if a government does something guilty (or is assumed to), that's a moral justification to bomb innocent civilians. Is it?

Meh, I'm not a deep thinker. I'm just your ordinary angry hotheaded guy from New Jersey.

Meh, I'm not a deep thinker. I'm just your ordinary angry hotheaded guy from New Jersey.

At least you're not from New York.

Meh, I'm not a deep thinker. I'm just your ordinary angry hotheaded guy from New Jersey.
Logical thought isn't really that hard.

death

Disingenuity at its finest. Using a political ad with quotes from the terrorist mastermind that Dear Leader didn't think much about lately, and who had an entire anti-terror task force charged with capturing his ass disbanded just before elections.

What does that say about a government that won't go after a true criminal but keeps him around as a convenient boogieman to cow the populace when they need votes?

Disingenuity at its finest. Using a political ad with quotes from the terrorist mastermind that Dear Leader didn't think much about lately, and who had an entire anti-terror task force charged with capturing his ass disbanded just before elections.

What does that say about a government that won't go after a true criminal but keeps him around as a convenient boogieman to cow the populace when they need votes?
It says pretty much what you just said. 'Nuff said. :)

Logical thought isn't really that hard.

Really? Then how come it's hardly ever used?

Really? Then how come it's hardly ever used?

Many Americans are too lazy, I believe..

.What does that say about a government that won't go after a true criminal but keeps him around as a convenient boogieman to cow the populace when they need votes?

Quite a bit. But most voters do not think that far. They only see Osama on the screen and know that he is a threat. That the government isn't exactly going after him as enthusiastically as they could just won't register with people.

Other.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Michael_Dukakis_in_tank.jpg