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Google.de censored? WTF?

LazyOtaku
27-10-2006, 16:21
I just noticed that Google Germany is censored by stumbling over this friendly little message from Google.

A URL that otherwise would have appeared in response to your search, was not displayed because that URL was reported as illegal by a German regulatory body.

I knew that they were censoring in China, but Germany?

Honestly, WTF?
Philosopy
27-10-2006, 16:25
What on earth are you trying to look at?

Besides, a friendly little note that something is illegal is probably better than the Police knocking your door down. It's not the same as blocking a site - you can presumably still get to it directly; Google just won't tell you where it is.
The Potato Factory
27-10-2006, 16:26
Probably a Wolfenstein 3-D fan page or something.
LazyOtaku
27-10-2006, 16:30
What on earth are you trying to look at?

Besides, a friendly little note that something is illegal is probably better than the Police knocking your door down. It's not the same as blocking a site - you can presumably still get to it directly; Google just won't tell you where it is.

I was doing a search for Alyson Hannigan - someone mentioned her in another thread, the name seemed familiar and I wanted to check who that was.
OcceanDrive
27-10-2006, 16:36
I knew that they were censoring in China, but Germany?

Honestly, WTF?German Gov fails at free speech.
Drunk commies deleted
27-10-2006, 16:38
I was doing a search for Alyson Hannigan - someone mentioned her in another thread, the name seemed familiar and I wanted to check who that was.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2327/allyvo5.png
Not bad
27-10-2006, 16:38
http://www.allmovieportal.com/w/alyson_hannigan/t/wallpaper_2.jpg
LazyOtaku
27-10-2006, 16:38
German Gov fails at free speech.

Actually, Google isn't required by law to censor anything.

Still, Germany's free speech laws aren't that great.
Not bad
27-10-2006, 16:43
Actually, Google isn't required by law to censor anything.

Still, Germany's free speech laws aren't that great.

Hmmmm, possibly google is trying to "just get along" with the German government then.

Are there adjustable search filters on google.de?
Dongania
27-10-2006, 16:45
I just noticed that Google Germany is censored by stumbling over this friendly little message from Google.



I knew that they were censoring in China, but Germany?

Honestly, WTF?
It's ilegal to place links to illegal homepages (in Germany, those are mostly neonazist pages, plus filesharing/warez of course :rolleyes: ). Thus, I guess Google.de can be sued over having reportedly illegal pages appear in their search results.
LazyOtaku
27-10-2006, 16:46
Hmmmm, possibly google is trying to "just get along" with the German government then.

Are there adjustable search filters on google.de?

Yes, Google.de has the same filters as Google.com. Makes no difference though.
OcceanDrive
27-10-2006, 17:17
Actually, Google isn't required by law to censor anything.the Broken-Link message says that it is due to the German Gov censorship agency.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
27-10-2006, 17:23
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2327/allyvo5.png
that's funny, she doesn't look at all like how i think of her, from buffy. such is typecasting.
Kinda Sensible people
27-10-2006, 18:24
If the link had something to do with speech restricted in Europe, then Google probably censored it.

Then again, it doesn't make much sense, since the only speech that is specifically restricted in Europe that isn't in the US is Haulocaust denial, and that sorta stuff, and your search isn't related to that at all.
Daemonocracy
27-10-2006, 18:27
If the link had something to do with speech restricted in Europe, then Google probably censored it.

Then again, it doesn't make much sense, since the only speech that is specifically restricted in Europe that isn't in the US is Haulocaust denial, and that sorta stuff, and your search isn't related to that at all.


Do Germans not like Buffy?
IL Ruffino
27-10-2006, 18:28
Do Germans not like Buffy?

They don't like tv-lesbians. *nods*
Szanth
27-10-2006, 18:32
They don't like tv-lesbians. *nods*

HEATHENS. Who the -hell- doesn't like TV lesbians!? Dear god.
JesusChristLooksLikeMe
27-10-2006, 20:17
Do Germans not like Buffy?

Don't you remember the very special episode towards the end of season 5 where Buffy had to slay the evil zionists who were trying to steal christian babies for the Yom Kippur sacrifice?
Drunk commies deleted
27-10-2006, 20:22
HEATHENS. Who the -hell- doesn't like TV lesbians!? Dear god.

Transvestite Lesbians?
Ifreann
27-10-2006, 20:28
They don't like tv-lesbians. *nods*

They should watch some of the American Pie movies, she's not gay in them.
Naturality
28-10-2006, 05:56
I just noticed that Google Germany is censored by stumbling over this friendly little message from Google.



I knew that they were censoring in China, but Germany?

Honestly, WTF?

I'm not suprised at all. I mean c'mon.. you can go to jail there for stating some unpopular opinions.
OcceanDrive
28-10-2006, 16:40
I'm not suprised at all. I mean c'mon.. you can go to jail there for stating some unpopular opinions.German Gov Freedom-of-speech is retarded
Swilatia
28-10-2006, 16:44
germany is trying to fight neofascism again. sheesh! people should be able to think what they want. so what if a minority group is offended by it. thats no reason for the governments to start an eternal war on it.
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 18:45
German Gov Freedom-of-speech is retarded

Germany is so pro-free speech, that they ban those who would end free speech if they got into power.

Thus the paradox.
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 18:48
I was doing a search for Alyson Hannigan - someone mentioned her in another thread, the name seemed familiar and I wanted to check who that was.

How on earth did you search? I got no such notice when googling from the German address :

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=Alyson+Hannigan&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
LiberationFrequency
28-10-2006, 18:52
They don't like tv-lesbians. *nods*

I think I missed that episode
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 18:54
germany is trying to fight neofascism again. sheesh! people should be able to think what they want. so what if a minority group is offended by it. thats no reason for the governments to start an eternal war on it.

And that's got what exactly to do with the topic at hand?
German Nightmare
28-10-2006, 18:57
Do Germans not like Buffy?
I'm German. I love Buffy. -> All Germans love Buffy.
They don't like tv-lesbians. *nods*
I liked them in Buffy.
HEATHENS. (...) Dear god.
Uhm...
They should watch some of the American Pie movies, she's not gay in them.
Those are hilarious!
Germany is so pro-free speech, that they ban those who would end free speech if they got into power.

Thus the paradox.
But it does make sense in a very strange way.
Google restricts access to picture-links also on the basis of copyright and/or restrictions when it comes to fascist links. I've never encountered it on any other topic but nazi stuff idea research.
LazyOtaku
28-10-2006, 19:01
How on earth did you search? I got no such notice when googling from the German address :

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=Alyson+Hannigan&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=

Try this (http://images.google.de/images?hl=de&q=Alyson%20Hannigan&btnG=Google-Suche&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) and scroll to the bottom of the page.

Aus Rechtsgründen hat Google 1 Ergebnis(se) von dieser Seite entfernt. Weitere Informationen über diese Rechtsgründe finden Sie unter ChillingEffects.org.
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:03
Try this (http://images.google.de/images?hl=de&q=Alyson%20Hannigan&btnG=Google-Suche&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) and scroll to the bottom of the page.

Nope... I see no such message. But given that you're looking for images, it's quite possible that the entry has been removed for copyright reasons....
The Nuke Testgrounds
28-10-2006, 19:05
Owned by the Germans?! This is WW2 all over again!

*gets helmet and start digging bombshelter*
LazyOtaku
28-10-2006, 19:09
Nope... I see no such message. But given that you're looking for images, it's quite possible that the entry has been removed for copyright reasons....

You won't get the message when you have moderate filtering active, which seems to be Google's default setting.
Keruvalia
28-10-2006, 19:12
So use google.com instead. *shrug*
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:12
Owned by the Germans?! This is WW2 all over again!

*gets helmet and start digging bombshelter*

Actually, the Germans are owning themselves.

...

This is WW2 all over again!
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:15
You won't get the message when you have moderate filtering active, which seems to be Google's default setting.

Huh?
So you activated filtering, and complain about how you don't get all pictures displayed??
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:18
Huh?
So you activated filtering, and complain about how you don't get all pictures displayed??

No, he disabled the filtering. He's saying that YOU have the filtering on.
LazyOtaku
28-10-2006, 19:18
Huh?
So you activated filtering, and complain about how you don't get all pictures displayed??

Huh?

No, I have no filters active and get the message. I thought the reason that you don't get it might be because you have the standard Goolge filter active.
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:19
Actually, Google isn't required by law to censor anything.

Still, Germany's free speech laws aren't that great.

I think they're not allowed to censor anything. That's why a lot of games get butchered before they're release in Germany; the govt. dept. that handles that stuff legally isn't allowed to review it before release and recommend changes, because that's censorship. Thus developers carve up the game, to avoid problems, and often cut out more than they needed to.
Imperial isa
28-10-2006, 19:28
I think they're not allowed to censor anything. That's why a lot of games get butchered before they're release in Germany; the govt. dept. that handles that stuff legally isn't allowed to review it before release and recommend changes, because that's censorship. Thus developers carve up the game, to avoid problems, and often cut out more than they needed to.

is there same thing about not showing blood and other things in games in germany
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:29
Huh?

No, I have no filters active and get the message. I thought the reason that you don't get it might be because you have the standard Goolge filter active.

Nope, no filters here....
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:31
is there same thing about not showing blood and other things in games in germany

That's basically what I meant.
Imperial isa
28-10-2006, 19:34
That's basically what I meant.

ok it just been a long day
dum germans for taking out all the fun in games
German Nightmare
28-10-2006, 19:34
Try this (http://images.google.de/images?hl=de&q=Alyson%20Hannigan&btnG=Google-Suche&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) and scroll to the bottom of the page.
I just did. No message about censorship.
Owned by the Germans?! This is WW2 all over again!

*gets helmet and start digging bombshelter*
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Wehrmacht.gif_http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Wehrmachtsoffizier.gif_http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Wehrmacht.gif
_Hallo!
So use google.com instead. *shrug*
Doesn't work that way. Google.com notices that you're in Germany and automatically redirects you to google.de - there's nothing you can do about that.
Actually, the Germans are owning themselves.
...
This is WW2 all over again!
Want to volunteer from the Australien Hitlerjugend? Dein Volk ruft dich.
LazyOtaku
28-10-2006, 19:36
I think they're not allowed to censor anything. That's why a lot of games get butchered before they're release in Germany; the govt. dept. that handles that stuff legally isn't allowed to review it before release and recommend changes, because that's censorship. Thus developers carve up the game, to avoid problems, and often cut out more than they needed to.

The situation has actually improved in the last years. We now have a ratings system and games that get rated can't be be put on the Index anymore. The board who decides the ratings (the USK) however can refuse to give a game a rating.
Philosopy
28-10-2006, 19:38
I just did. No message about censorship.

I just got it too - at least, I assume I did, I can't actually tranlate what it says.

Seeing as all our German posters aren't getting this message, perhaps it is actually blocking people from non-German IPs from seeing something, in the same way that the BBC blocks non-UK IPs from watching streamed live television?
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:39
Want to volunteer from the Australien Hitlerjugend? Dein Volk ruft dich.

Ich bin das Volk. Ich bin das Reich.

And Hitler was an idiot.
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:39
I think they're not allowed to censor anything. That's why a lot of games get butchered before they're release in Germany; the govt. dept. that handles that stuff legally isn't allowed to review it before release and recommend changes, because that's censorship. Thus developers carve up the game, to avoid problems, and often cut out more than they needed to.

The "gorvernment department" you're refering to is the USK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterhaltungssoftware_Selbstkontrolle), the Unterhaltungssoftware Selbstkontrolle, the equivalent to the FSK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiwillige_Selbstkontrolle_der_Filmwirtschaft). Neither of which are government departments.
As it's name implies, it's a voluntary and not legally binding rating.
They do get to see each piece of software well before it's being published, too.
Imperial isa
28-10-2006, 19:40
I just got it too - at least, I assume I did, I can't actually tranlate what it says.

Seeing as all our German posters aren't getting this message, perhaps it is actually blocking people from non-German IPs from seeing something, in the same way that the BBC blocks non-UK IPs from watching streamed live television?

no i looked her up and didnt get block
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:40
Ich bin der Volk.

And Hitler was an idiot.

Ich weiss ja nicht, welcher Volk das sein soll. Ich kenn den nicht.
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:42
I just got it too - at least, I assume I did, I can't actually tranlate what it says.

Seeing as all our German posters aren't getting this message, perhaps it is actually blocking people from non-German IPs from seeing something, in the same way that the BBC blocks non-UK IPs from watching streamed live television?

I'm in Ireland...
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:42
The "gorvernment department" you're refering to is the USK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterhaltungssoftware_Selbstkontrolle), the Unterhaltungssoftware Selbstkontrolle, the equivalent to the FSK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiwillige_Selbstkontrolle_der_Filmwirtschaft). Neither of which are government departments.
As it's name implies, it's a voluntary and not legally binding rating.

So why do developers have so much trouble?

They do get to see each piece of software well before it's being published, too.

That might have changed recently. Or maybe they're allowed to see it, but not do anything about it.
Philosopy
28-10-2006, 19:44
I'm in Ireland...

...and I thank you for pointing out the stupidity of my thoughts.

Perhaps the computer knows you're German. You didn't think of that. ;)
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:45
Ich weiss ja nicht, welcher Volk das sein soll. Ich kenn den nicht.

Ich bin alle Volk.

Also, I give up. My German only goes so far.
German Nightmare
28-10-2006, 19:45
I just got it too - at least, I assume I did, I can't actually tranlate what it says.

Seeing as all our German posters aren't getting this message, perhaps it is actually blocking people from non-German IPs from seeing something, in the same way that the BBC blocks non-UK IPs from watching streamed live television?
Or the webisodes of Battlestar Galactica. :mad: Why? :(
Ich weiss ja nicht, welcher Volk das sein soll. Ich kenn den nicht.
Volker? Isch kenn gen Volker!
LazyOtaku
28-10-2006, 19:47
So why do developers have so much trouble?

As I said before, the USK can refuse to rate a game. A not rated game can be put on the Index by the BPjM, which would mean that the game cannot be advertised or displayed on shelves. Thus most publishers won't bring games who did not get a rating to the German market. Dead Rising did not get a rating for example.

It could also be outright banned, meaning that it would be illegal to sell/buy/own the game, though that rarely happens anymore.
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:47
So why do developers have so much trouble?

That might have changed recently. Or maybe they're allowed to see it, but not do anything about it.

I studied Librarianship in Germany from 1997-2002, so I'm rather familiar with copyright and censorship rules in the country.
The FSK has been in place since 1949, and no movie since was released without its rating.
The USK was founded in 1994, and the rules and regulations applied haven't changed since. Same ad for the FSK, new software gets rated before being released.
The Potato Factory
28-10-2006, 19:48
Volker? Isch kenn gen Volker!

So, what dialect is that?
Philosopy
28-10-2006, 19:48
Or the webisodes of Battlestar Galactica. :mad: Why? :(

Because we have to pay £120 a year for a TV licence and you don't. :(
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 19:48
Ich bin alle Volk.

Also, I give up. My German only goes so far.

Ich wuerd eher sagen, du bist komplett voll... :p
Imperial isa
28-10-2006, 19:49
Because we have to pay £120 a year for a TV licence and you don't. :(

you poor things have to pay when i get it free to air here
Icovir
28-10-2006, 20:18
To OP - Maybe you were trying to look at a picture of a Nazi? I dunno...
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 20:36
To OP - Maybe you were trying to look at a picture of a Nazi? I dunno...

They're not censored in Germany.
Allers
28-10-2006, 21:17
Google censure,hum?
is somebody claiming ,the stranger should speak?
Cabra West
28-10-2006, 22:15
Google censure,hum?
is somebody claiming ,the stranger should speak?

Are you by any chance using some sort of translation program before posting? Your posts tend to have a rather Dadaistic quality...
German Nightmare
28-10-2006, 22:17
So, what dialect is that?
:confused: Wha?
Because we have to pay £120 a year for a TV licence and you don't. :(
Those who pay are charged with € 204.36 per year for their first television set or € 66.24 for their first radio set (cars or workspace excluded).

And the webisodes would've come over the big sea...
The Potato Factory
29-10-2006, 07:52
:confused: Wha?

It has to be a dialect. Since when does Hochdeutsch use "isch"?
Neu Leonstein
29-10-2006, 09:45
Just regarding the freedom of speech laws...

http://www.iuscomp.org/gla/
Section 130 Agitation of the People
(1) Whoever, in a manner that is capable of disturbing the public peace:

1. incites hatred against segments of the population or calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them; or

2. assaults the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population,

shall be punished with imprisonment from three months to five years.

(2) Whoever:

1. with respect to writings (Section 11 subsection (3)), which incite hatred against segments of the population or a national, racial or religious group, or one characterized by its folk customs, which call for violent or arbitrary measures against them, or which assault the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning or defaming segments of the population or a previously indicated group:

a) disseminates them;

b) publicly displays, posts, presents, or otherwise makes them accessible;

c) offers, gives or makes accessible to a person under eighteen years; or

(d) produces, obtains, supplies, stocks, offers, announces, commends, undertakes to import or export them, in order to use them or copies obtained from them within the meaning of numbers a through c or facilitate such use by another; or

2. disseminates a presentation of the content indicated in number 1 by radio,

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

(3) Whoever publicly or in a meeting approves of, denies or renders harmless an act committed under the rule of National Socialism of the type indicated in Section 220a subsection (1), in a manner capable of disturbing the public piece shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than five years or a fine.

(4) Subsection (2) shall also apply to writings (Section 11 subsection (3)) with content such as is indicated in subsection (3).

(5) In cases under subsection (2), also in conjunction with subsection (4), and in cases of subsection (3), Section 86 subsection (3), shall apply correspondingly.

Go to section 220...and what do you find?
Section 220 (repealed)

Of further interest: Section 86
Section 86 Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations
(1) Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda:

1. of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization, as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a party;

2. of an organization, which has been banned, no longer subject to appeal, because it is directed against the constitutional order or against the idea of international understanding, or as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a banned organization;

3. of a government, organization or institution outside of the territorial area of application of this law which is active in pursuing the objectives of one of the parties or organizations indicated in numbers 1 and 2; or

4. means of propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization,

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

(2) Means of propaganda within the meaning of subsection (1) shall only be those writings (Section 11 subsection (3)) the content of which is directed against the free, democratic constitutional order or the idea of international understanding.

(3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes.

(4) If guilt is slight, the court may refrain from imposition of punishment pursuant to this provision.

Section 86a Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations
(1) Whoever:

1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (Section 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in Section 86 subsection (1), nos. 1, 2 and 4; or

2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1,

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

(2) Symbols, within the meaning of subsection (1), shall be, in particular, flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting. Symbols which are so similar as to be mistaken for those named in sentence 1 shall be deemed to be equivalent thereto.

(3) Section 86 subsections (3) and (4), shall apply accordingly.

In other words, if you do propaganda for an organisation that has previously been outlawed (the range has in the past varied from political parties all the way to various Islamist groups), you get into trouble. If you glorify the Nazi regime or similar antidemocratic movements in a way that is considered by the court to be public agitation, then you get into trouble too.

Personally, I can't find the message either when I do the search. But there may have been either some sort of child porn, or perhaps less likely, Nazi-type material. I don't think it would be copyright-related.
I V Stalin
29-10-2006, 10:34
Because we have to pay £120 a year for a TV licence and you don't. :(
£120 is far too cheap for the quality programming that the BBC produces. I would gladly remortgage my house and sell my family for scientific experiments in order to help the BBC.

[/Not the Nine O'Clock News], as most people probably won't understand.
Philosopy
29-10-2006, 10:39
£120 is far too cheap for the quality programming that the BBC produces. I would gladly remortgage my house and sell my family for scientific experiments in order to help the BBC.

[/Not the Nine O'Clock News], as most people probably won't understand.

As long as it keeps Top Gear and David Attenborough on me tv and Ken Bruce on me radio, I won't complain too much.
I V Stalin
29-10-2006, 10:45
As long as it keeps Top Gear and David Attenborough on me tv and Ken Bruce on me radio, I won't complain too much.
I just need Top Gear, QI, and Radio 4's comedy. Maybe One Music as well, on Radio 1. And the website, of course.
Imperial isa
29-10-2006, 10:46
As long as it keeps Top Gear and David Attenborough on me tv and Ken Bruce on me radio, I won't complain too much.

top gear not a bad show
yes i get free to air but if it stops there i be upset
Oeck
29-10-2006, 10:48
Try this (http://images.google.de/images?hl=de&q=Alyson%20Hannigan&btnG=Google-Suche&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) and scroll to the bottom of the page.

First of all, I don't get that message either (posting from Germany, here).

Secondly, you might try to either make your attempts at skewing the info you give in your post less obvious or maybe even get rid of them completely.

1) You failed to mention you were doing a picture search, not an info search. As previously pointed out, this may very well mean that the limitations are of copy-right nature, and not becaus eof censoring.

2) While your first post said something about "the URL.. reported illegal by a German regulatory body", the post with the presumably original message (in German) reads plainly that "Google removed one result from this page for legal reasons" - no "regulatory body", as nice a phrase as that is.

3) Ever tried the link they gave you in order for you to "find out more about the nature of these legal reasons"? (Might I add that I tried the website given, and that it doesn't look like a very official website to me and most certainly doesn't give information on that special case)

So, everyone take off their tinfoil hats now, cut the crap about the alleged German censoring of Google and take their energy to a fight against copy-right restrictions if they feel like it. Sheesh.
Haerodonia
29-10-2006, 10:51
My high school history teacher told us that French search engines censor pages about nazi paraphernalia. Never tested this theory though.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 11:26
My high school history teacher told us that French search engines censor pages about nazi paraphernalia. Never tested this theory though.But your high school history teacher tested it?
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Whereyouthinkyougoing
29-10-2006, 12:56
Gah, how it never ceases to gall me that Americans think "their" free speech is the "best" free speech and should be the gold standard for the rest of mankind. :rolleyes:


Try this (http://images.google.de/images?hl=de&q=Alyson%20Hannigan&btnG=Google-Suche&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) and scroll to the bottom of the page.

Aus Rechtsgründen hat Google 1 Ergebnis(se) von dieser Seite entfernt. Weitere Informationen über diese Rechtsgründe finden Sie unter ChillingEffects.org.
Oh, that message.

I don't get it with your example, but I do get it sometimes on a variety of (legal, "non-suspicious") topics. Can't remember if it's only in image searches (which I almost always do with the default google filter in place, because I'm lazy and I don't like cookies (well, the virtual kind)) or in web searches as well.

I always assumed this to be true:
But there may have been either some sort of child porn, or perhaps less likely, Nazi-type material.

Although judging from the wording of the message ("legal reasons") I could see copyright issues as well, I guess. Although how google is supposed to know that something is violating copyrights is beyond me - they would have to block out half of the internet would they start to block all the sites that violate copyrights... :p
Cabra West
29-10-2006, 12:56
It has to be a dialect. Since when does Hochdeutsch use "isch"?

You still have an awful lot to learn about German and Germany, grasshopper.
Neu Leonstein
29-10-2006, 13:03
You still have an awful lot to learn about German and Germany, grasshopper.
And here are two links to start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u60CwHCnX8 (finest display of the spoken German language ever)

http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/autoren/busch.htm (finest display of the written German language ever)
Das Schwein läuft aus der Tür heraus,
Der Bauer reitet fort im Saus.
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/wbusch/schwein/schw09.gif
Dem Schweine kommt das lästig vor,
Drum wälzt es sich im feuchten Moor.

EDIT: Oh, and I would almost have forgotten my own signature!
Oh, Danton, du hast dich sehr geirrt
Und mußtest den Irrtum büßen!
Mitnehmen kann man das Vaterland
An den Sohlen, an den Füßen.

Das halbe Fürstentum Bückeburg
Blieb mir an den Stiefeln kleben;
So lehmichte Wege habe ich wohl
Noch nie gesehen im Leben.
Cabra West
29-10-2006, 13:11
And here are two links to start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u60CwHCnX8 (finest display of the spoken German language ever)

http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/autoren/busch.htm (finest display of the written German language ever)

Toäääääääää!!!!

Wie geil... ich hab das ja Jahre nicht gesehen!! :D

"Ach, was muß man oft von bösen
Kindern hören oder lesen!"
Nobel Hobos
29-10-2006, 14:50
I just noticed that Google Germany is censored by stumbling over this friendly little message from Google.



I knew that they were censoring in China, but Germany?

Honestly, WTF?

When you request "google.com" you get your national google. Eg, here I get www.google.com.au
If I ask for google.com.it I get Italy's. The default language will of course be italian.

In China, if they request google.com.it ... they get google.com but it's really google.com.cn
-- I stand to be corrected by Chinese posters, I'm just guessing --

Moral: Google are political sluts. They told you your search had been censored because their research indicated that Germans would think that was more cool than just being given some random shit.

I don't know about your countries, but how many people get Wikipedia when they search for a simple word? Even two years ago, you'd get interesting sites based on "turpentine" or "haggis" but now you get an ad, a site registered as 'www.turpentine.com' and the Wikipedia.

If I wanted to abuse Germans, or call for a Jihad on all Germans, I'd put a Swastika on my site, and use the word "Nazi" in the site description. Sure, my own national government would take the site down eventually, but the Germans would be the last to know. Because their government protects them from seeing swastikas.
Nobel Hobos
29-10-2006, 15:05
So use google.com instead. *shrug*

Ignorant.

Google.com anywhere but the US gives "google.com.<your nation>"

I can have google.com.de by typing it.

The Chinese can't.

THAT's censorship. What the OP has is Google being smart-ass.
They've been told to unlist a site. They're saying so.

Has anyone posted the link which the OP couldn't get? The link which got the "reported as illegal by a German regulatory body." response? Might be interesting to try it from some other countries.
Babelistan
29-10-2006, 15:16
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_Hallo!


Want to volunteer from the Australien Hitlerjugend? Dein Volk ruft dich.

Sure but im a norwegian guess its Waffen-SS for me
Nobel Hobos
29-10-2006, 16:34
Because we have to pay £120 a year for a TV licence and you don't. :(

You pay a yearly fee to own a TV. Bad
You have the BBC. Good.
You don't have much else. Bad.
You have the BBC. That's good enough to mention twice.
The BBC is a state-owned virtual monopoly.
There's satellite, and you are close to Europe.
Even when it isn't played there, you can watch the Ashes

I still haven't made up my mind. That licencing thing is a shocker, though.
East of Eden is Nod
29-10-2006, 17:12
Ignorant.

Google.com anywhere but the US gives "google.com.<your nation>"

I can have google.com.de by typing it.

The Chinese can't.

THAT's censorship. What the OP has is Google being smart-ass.
They've been told to unlist a site. They're saying so.

Has anyone posted the link which the OP couldn't get? The link which got the "reported as illegal by a German regulatory body." response? Might be interesting to try it from some other countries.google.com.de gets you nowhere. The German version of Google is at www.google.de, and if you are within Germany you can avoid being redirected there from www.google.com by typing in www.google.com/ncr
.
New Xero Seven
29-10-2006, 17:22
Hmm. A search for Wolfenstein 3D on google.de yielded many results. Dunno about that Buffy girl, maybe she's an anti-German conspiracy.
Fassigen
29-10-2006, 17:28
Comparing the search in www.chillingeffects.org's "search comparator" it's quite easy to see what picture was blocked.

The description should suffice to explain what sort of picture it was: "Barely 20 years old and still with a teenie-look, Alyson Hannigan allows her boyfriend to film her while he cums all over her face, and afterwards goes butt-naked to the bathroom to wash herself! We exposed Alyson Hannigan and her secret blowjob video! Now you can watch Aylson Hannigan sex video in full color, totally uncut and uncensored!"

The thing is, the picture (which is a composite of screencaps from this video) is not of Alyson Hannigan. It is of a person that looks like her. It is thus a libellous picture. Hence it being illegal. It's probably illegal in the US, and many other countries as well, due to the fact that it defames Alyson Hannigan personally. The reason it's blocked is probably because Alyson, or some representative of her, reported it to the German government, which is more effective at protecting people from libel than for instance the US government.
Fassigen
29-10-2006, 17:41
i'm sure you are a pain in the ass,
crying the us are protected
i guess you are the ultimate,
and alison has nothing to do with it

Cut the spamming out, Allers. It's making you look quite stupid.
Philosopy
29-10-2006, 19:17
Comparing the search in www.chillingeffects.org's "search comparator" it's quite easy to see what picture was blocked.

The description should suffice to explain what sort of picture it was: "Barely 20 years old and still with a teenie-look, Alyson Hannigan allows her boyfriend to film her while he cums all over her face, and afterwards goes butt-naked to the bathroom to wash herself! We exposed Alyson Hannigan and her secret blowjob video! Now you can watch Aylson Hannigan sex video in full color, totally uncut and uncensored!"

The thing is, the picture (which is a composite of screencaps from this video) is not of Alyson Hannigan. It is of a person that looks like her. It is thus a libellous picture. Hence it being illegal. It's probably illegal in the US, and many other countries as well, due to the fact that it defames Alyson Hannigan personally. The reason it's blocked is probably because Alyson, or some representative of her, reported it to the German government, which is more effective at protecting people from libel than for instance the US government.

You know, the fact that you're clearly such an expert at searching for and uncovering pornography doesn't really surprise me. :p
Fassigen
29-10-2006, 19:29
You know, the fact that you're clearly such an expert at searching for and uncovering pornography doesn't really surprise me. :p

I don't need to search for pornography. I have an uncapped 24mbit connection and a bittorrent client. Can't "search" for something which is so readily available.
I V Stalin
29-10-2006, 19:32
You have the BBC. That's good enough to mention twice.
Have you seen the quality of programmes the BBC broadcasts? 95% is crap, and most of the rest of the other 5% I'd only watch if bored.

There's satellite, and you are close to Europe.
Even when it isn't played there, you can watch the Ashes
Cricket coverage has now gone to Sky as well :( Although there are highlights on Channel 5, which will probably amount to an hour per day. It's not so bad, but I'd much rather watch as much of it as possible.

Last summer (05) whenever an Ashes Test was on I'd do pretty much nothing else all weekend but watch it.
German Nightmare
29-10-2006, 21:27
Sure but im a norwegian guess its Waffen-SS for me
:eek: We're not hiring, nor looking for trouble!!! ;)
Hmm. A search for Wolfenstein 3D on google.de yielded many results. Dunno about that Buffy girl, maybe she's an anti-German conspiracy.
There is no conspoonacy.