NationStates Jolt Archive


Puppets

Infinite Revolution
27-10-2006, 02:26
How good do you think you are at recognising puppets? are there any obvious ones? let's have some conspiracy theories...

*rubs hands together in anticipation*

*hopes this isn't spam*
Pyotr
27-10-2006, 02:28
I think a lot of the people who are commonly known as trolls are not, their just people with really unpopular(and usually false) opinions.
Utracia
27-10-2006, 02:29
I think we just assume many posters are puppets. Like if we see an irrational blind Bush supporter then the poster has to be a puppet of MTAE. There could be no other possibility, right?
Similization
27-10-2006, 02:30
I think we just assume many posters are puppets. Like if we see an irrational blind Bush supporter then the poster has to be a puppet of MTAE. There could be no other possibility, right?I thought MTAE was someone's schism-puppet?
Pyotr
27-10-2006, 02:31
I think we just assume many posters are puppets. Like if we see an irrational blind Bush supporter then the poster has to be a puppet of MTAE. There could be no other possibility, right?

Its a lot easier to just accuse someone of trolling and ignore them, than to debate, and successfully refute their idiotic arguments.
Utracia
27-10-2006, 02:33
I thought MTAE was someone's schism-puppet?

I haven't seen that proven though I have thought that it might be UN Abassadorship. Can't say for sure though.
Similization
27-10-2006, 02:36
I haven't seen that proven though I have thought that it might be UN Abassadorship. Can't say for sure though.Tehee, I thought he was a puppet too :p
Infinite Revolution
27-10-2006, 02:37
I haven't seen that proven though I have thought that it might be UN Abassadorship. Can't say for sure though.

i've become more and more certain it's Nalitiir testing out some of his more outrageous thoughts through a different mouthpiece. it's the tone and language used, along with the fact that MTAE often apologises for voicing such strong opinions and New Nalitiirs frequent agreement at significant points in the debates. and the coincdence of activity/inactivity.
King Bodacious
27-10-2006, 02:42
I have figured it out to be that a lot here on NSG have already decided that they're right and the minority who disagree and make their case are called "trolls" or "puppets" I don't feel that that is right because we all have our right to disagree. We all have our right to our own beliefs (popular or unpopular). Just because we disagree does NOT mean that we are either a "troll" or "puppet". To me that's just childs play. People need to grow up and realize that people will disagree until the last man dies.

Why do the ones who disagree with a popular stance here on NSG, gets classified as a troll or puppet? Do we not have a right to disagree?
Sarkhaan
27-10-2006, 02:45
I have figured it out to be that a lot here on NSG have already decided that they're right and the minority who disagree and make their case are called "trolls" or "puppets" I don't feel that that is right because we all have our right to disagree. We all have our right to our own beliefs (popular or unpopular). Just because we disagree does NOT mean that we are either a "troll" or "puppet". To me that's just childs play. People need to grow up and realize that people will disagree until the last man dies.

Why do the ones who disagree with a popular stance here on NSG, gets classified as a troll or puppet? Do we not have a right to disagree?

It isn't so much the point of view, but more how they voice it. For example, anyone can make an inane remark and defend it. Those who do not truly believe it will often ignore peoples criticism of it, not really make any new points during a debate, fail to back the points they have made, etc.

They also consistantly make comments that are clearly designed to get a specific response
Boonytopia
27-10-2006, 03:15
I can never tell when people are using puppets, I'm not very perceptive.

On another note, the only time I post with my puppets is when I log in with them by mistake. :p
Infinite Revolution
27-10-2006, 03:17
I have figured it out to be that a lot here on NSG have already decided that they're right and the minority who disagree and make their case are called "trolls" or "puppets" I don't feel that that is right because we all have our right to disagree. We all have our right to our own beliefs (popular or unpopular). Just because we disagree does NOT mean that we are either a "troll" or "puppet". To me that's just childs play. People need to grow up and realize that people will disagree until the last man dies.

Why do the ones who disagree with a popular stance here on NSG, gets classified as a troll or puppet? Do we not have a right to disagree?

hey, don't worry, i don't think you're a puppet, i just know you're wrong :p
Infinite Revolution
27-10-2006, 03:19
I can never tell when people are using puppets, I'm not very perceptive.

On another note, the only time I post with my puppets is when I log in with them by mistake. :p

the main reason i made this thread was cuz i've recently made a couple of puppets, just for shits and giggles, and i was curious as to whether anyone could have guessed. i couldn't help myself leaving some hints as well.
Neocon pride
27-10-2006, 03:23
People keep calling me a puppet :( :( :( It makes me sad.
Edwardis
27-10-2006, 03:25
People keep calling me a puppet :( :( :( It makes me sad.

It's okay. *Pats back*

People have called me a puppet, too. It only means they don't have an imagination to think up a better insult. :p
Neocon pride
27-10-2006, 03:28
It's okay. *Pats back*

People have called me a puppet, too. It only means they don't have an imagination to think up a better insult. :p

Yeah silly people. Picking on a 13 year old kid:p
Edwardis
27-10-2006, 03:29
Yeah silly people. Picking on a 13 year old kid:p

Oh, that's just mean.
CanuckHeaven
27-10-2006, 03:30
i've become more and more certain it's Nalitiir testing out some of his more outrageous thoughts through a different mouthpiece. it's the tone and language used, along with the fact that MTAE often apologises for voicing such strong opinions and New Nalitiirs frequent agreement at significant points in the debates. and the coincdence of activity/inactivity.
Nope. I don't think that New Nalitiirs = MTAE. I do believe that MTAE was RealAmerica, and before that possibly the BarryGoldwater/USalpenStock duo.

Also I think Corny is hiding here somewhere and someone suggested that it was Daemonocracy, but I am not too sure about that.

I think puppets are the scourge of NS. :(
Smokey the NSer
27-10-2006, 03:34
Nope. I don't think that New Nalitiirs = MTAE. I do believe that MTAE was RealAmerica, and before that possibly the BarryGoldwater/USalpenStock duo.

Also I think Corny is hiding here somewhere and someone suggested that it was Daemonocracy, but I am not too sure about that.

I think puppets are the scourge of NS. :(

I don't think I'm a scourge at all. I'm a good puppet. I also think there are plenty of other good puppets. :)
Infinite Revolution
27-10-2006, 03:34
Nope. I don't think that New Nalitiirs = MTAE. I do believe that MTAE was RealAmerica, and before that possibly the BarryGoldwater/USalpenStock duo.

Also I think Corny is hiding here somewhere and someone suggested that it was Daemonocracy, but I am not too sure about that.

I think puppets are the scourge of NS. :(

well i'm pretty sure MTAE = RealAmerica but i never heard of the other two and that desn't mean it couldn't be Naliitr (i just find their tone and sentence structure too similar to ignore *shrugs*). as for Corny, i don't think he is MTAE, too coherent. and Daemonocracy hasn't made the sort of impact that might be expected of Corny.
Boonytopia
27-10-2006, 03:47
It's okay. *Pats back*

People have called me a puppet, too. It only means they don't have an imagination to think up a better insult. :p

I thought you'd left NS. Didn't I see a thread about it a few weeks ago? :confused:
Edwardis
27-10-2006, 03:52
I thought you'd left NS. Didn't I see a thread about it a few weeks ago? :confused:

Self-exile is boring. I calmed myself down and thought some things out. So now I'm back. *shrugs*
CanuckHeaven
27-10-2006, 03:53
well i'm pretty sure MTAE = RealAmerica but i never heard of the other two and that desn't mean it couldn't be Naliitr (i just find their tone and sentence structure too similar to ignore *shrugs*). as for Corny, i don't think he is MTAE, too coherent. and Daemonocracy hasn't made the sort of impact that might be expected of Corny.
Besides Daemonocracy posts lots of links, something that Corny rarely does.

USAlpenstock pretty much disappeared after this thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494086)as did BarryGoldwater (about a 100 posts later).

Shortly after, Alleghany County disappeared. I kinda thought that Alleghany County was Corny or a friend of Corny's.
Boonytopia
27-10-2006, 04:39
Self-exile is boring. I calmed myself down and thought some things out. So now I'm back. *shrugs*

No worries then, I thought I was getting confused.
Ladamesansmerci
27-10-2006, 04:57
I had a puppet once. People thought he was somebody else, and then he god banned. :(
Dobbsworld
27-10-2006, 05:03
After I lost Dobbstown, I made a bunch of Dobbstowns - Upper Dobbstown, Old Dobbstown, Lesser Dobbstown, etc. - but I lost interest in them after I made Dobbsworld.

I've always clearly identified who I am, whatever the puppet.
Neocon pride
27-10-2006, 05:09
Oh, that's just mean.



Yes it is...mean people on NSG:(
Sarkhaan
27-10-2006, 05:13
Besides Daemonocracy posts lots of links, something that Corny rarely does.

plus, from my talking with Daemon, he's from CT...and knows a decent amount about the state (more than would be found in your basic research)
GreaterPacificNations
27-10-2006, 05:49
I thought MTAE was someone's schism-puppet? Correct. I did up a big investigation-thread but it got deleted. Basically all of the evidence points to MTAE being the reincarnation of Naliitr, initially as a troll-puppet, but increasingly as his main posting account (He rarely posts with New Naliitr anymore).
Shazbotdom
27-10-2006, 06:03
I have a puppet....

His name is Mr. Socko
CanuckHeaven
27-10-2006, 06:35
I don't think I'm a scourge at all. I'm a good puppet. I also think there are plenty of other good puppets. :)
* pats Smokey the NSer on his/her head and gives him/her a cookie.

Now, what was your parent nation again? :D
Demonic Gophers
27-10-2006, 08:13
It's okay. *Pats back*

People have called me a puppet, too. It only means they don't have an imagination to think up a better insult. :p

It's not an insult at all! I'm a puppet...

(And yet I have puppets! Mysterious.)
Vydro
27-10-2006, 09:16
It's not an insult at all! I'm a puppet...

(And yet I have puppets! Mysterious.)

Demonic Gophers? obviously a puppet of Holy Meerkats! (I made that up, no idea if theres even a nation named that :P)
Soviestan
27-10-2006, 09:45
I haven't seen that proven though I have thought that it might be UN Abassadorship. Can't say for sure though.

er, yeah. MtEA is most definitely not UNA. MtAE is Natilir I believe
Branin
27-10-2006, 09:53
So in my long time away from the forum, did we ever figure out who smokey was? There really can't be that many options left considering how long smokey has been puppeting, and how few of us have been around and/or active during smokey's posting.
Pledgeria
27-10-2006, 10:12
er, yeah. MtEA is most definitely not UNA. MtAE is Natilir I believe

Hmmm. I just assumed MtAE was [violet].

Only kidding.

(watches for falling lightning.)

No, really, I was only kidding. :p
St Edmundan Antarctic
27-10-2006, 12:51
Demonic Gophers? obviously a puppet of Holy Meerkats! (I made that up, no idea if theres even a nation named that :P)
If there wasn't already, there probably soon will be... ;)
Smokey the NSer
27-10-2006, 18:01
* pats Smokey the NSer on his/her head and gives him/her a cookie.

Now, what was your parent nation again? :D

I never said. :)

Thanks for the cookie.

So in my long time away from the forum, did we ever figure out who smokey was? There really can't be that many options left considering how long smokey has been puppeting, and how few of us have been around and/or active during smokey's posting.

If they did, nobody ever told me. :(
The Former Smoking Man
27-10-2006, 18:31
How good do you think you are at recognising puppets? are there any obvious ones? let's have some conspiracy theories...

*rubs hands together in anticipation*

*hopes this isn't spam*

*takes a drag*

There is no Mod conspiracy. And I am not involved in it, nor are my puppets. I mostly use them for purposes of harmless entertainment.
Jello Biafra
27-10-2006, 18:37
Shortly after, Alleghany County disappeared. I kinda thought that Alleghany County was Corny or a friend of Corny's.Yeah. Believe it or not, people from here aren't nearly as conservative, as a whole, as some posters on here might be. (Not that I thought you were implying that it was the case...more of a defense of the Burgh. :))