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Military School

Anglo Germany
25-10-2006, 17:31
What does everyone think about them?
Are they right or wrong?

Because ive started 6th Form in Englands only Military School, and have spent the last 5 years there, and I love it. Does anyone think the idea of military schools should be destroyed and forgotten and why? Does anyone (apart from me) think they should be encouraged?
UpwardThrust
25-10-2006, 17:37
I think that they could defiantly have their place… but I thank god that I never went to one. Freedom allowed me to grow and choose my path like no amount of discipline or structure ever could have.
Kryozerkia
25-10-2006, 17:38
If it's designed with the right intention and not just as a boot camp to punish hooligans, it's a good concept. If it employs academic standards as well as teaches what you need to survive in the military, it's also a viable option because then those who would normally skip post-secondary school would have a chance at a good, strong stable job.
Andaluciae
25-10-2006, 17:40
I'm sure they serve a purpose for some people, but, for me, it would have been a disaster.
Flores Mafia
25-10-2006, 17:57
Military schools are good for some and BAD for others. I had a friend who was a complete mess up, he thought he was a gansta and he was whiter than the day was long, his father sent him to military school for a couple of years the kid didn't join the service after he graduated but went to college and is majoring in physics. I know that if I were sent to the same school that he was in, which I toured while he was there, I would have taken it until I got out, and then rebelled against the world. So as I said above good for some BAD for others.
Prussische
25-10-2006, 18:13
If there were a government of earth that I supported, I would sign up for their Military academy quickas you like. The only reason I'm not joining a military and trying for officership is because I don't support any government in the world, at the moment.
Flores Mafia
25-10-2006, 18:19
If there were a government of earth that I supported, I would sign up for their Military academy quickas you like. The only reason I'm not joining a military and trying for officership is because I don't support any government in the world, at the moment.

Understandable.
Call to power
25-10-2006, 18:35
In my personal view I would of fucking loved military school!

With that said I suppose its good for turning boys to men or something and teaching them to respect discipline that is if there parents want that of course …
GreaterPacificNations
26-10-2006, 17:11
I think that they could defiantly have their place… but I thank god that I never went to one. Freedom allowed me to grow and choose my path like no amount of discipline or structure ever could have. I dunno. Discipline and structure forced me to grow and choose my own path like no amount of freedom ever could have compelled me to.
GreaterPacificNations
26-10-2006, 17:21
You guys do know that boarding school and such is all about breaking the rules and learning how to subvert systems, right? It seems a lot of you people think that military school would crush your poor little free spirits. BS. It'll galvanise it as it is brought under fire, unless you don't truly have one, in which case you'll fall in line like everyone else. High discipline environments are great during highschool, it gives you something to struggle against. Without it, I expect I would have become a pointless stoner full of wasted potential. Only by spending my time and effort struggling to be myself did I learn to value myself. Success was no longer an abstract goal society said was good, success was the war against 'the man'. Only by subverting his authority, being the maverick that I am, and still beating the pants off everyone there could I ever had been satisfied. Yeah, I loved Boarding school.
New Burmesia
26-10-2006, 17:52
What does everyone think about them?
Are they right or wrong?

Because ive started 6th Form in Englands only Military School, and have spent the last 5 years there, and I love it. Does anyone think the idea of military schools should be destroyed and forgotten and why? Does anyone (apart from me) think they should be encouraged?

Did you choose to go to military school in year 7 or was it your parents' choice?
Yootopia
26-10-2006, 18:02
What does everyone think about them?
Are they right or wrong?

Because ive started 6th Form in Englands only Military School, and have spent the last 5 years there, and I love it. Does anyone think the idea of military schools should be destroyed and forgotten and why? Does anyone (apart from me) think they should be encouraged?
Do you mean Sandhurst?

And ermm they have their place, I suppose, and they're useful for making an Officer Corps, but not much else.
Dododecapod
26-10-2006, 18:10
Two of my commanding officers were military school graduates who'd both gone on to West Point. One of them (who'd just made Major when I got out) was brilliant; could get us to do anything he wanted because we WANTED to follow him. Command presence up the wazoo, and smart too.

But the other one? He was our Lt. for six months. Complete martinet, incapable of bending to a situation. Now, in our situation (embassy duty) spit and polish was damned important, and we all knew that. But if this guy'd had his way we'd have been polishing leather and metal all day, and forgetting about being Marines. And he had the leadership skills of a potato bug. Thankfully, our Captain managed to get him transferred.

Personally, I don't have anything against military schools. But I won't be sendng any kids I have to one.
Anglo Germany
29-10-2006, 00:52
No, not Sandhurst thats for post 6th Form, I go to

The Duke of Yorks Royal Military School, its like the one before Welback, which is the one before Sandhurst. But yes I went of my own free will, and have loved (and still am loving every minute of it...
Cabra West
29-10-2006, 01:01
I detest military in any form, shape or colour.
It would never have been an option for me, nor for anyone in my family. That said, I don't think there are any military school in Germany at all anyway.
Anglo Germany
29-10-2006, 01:06
Really? totaly Anti-Military?
Cabra West
29-10-2006, 01:12
Really? totaly Anti-Military?

Are you asking me?
Yes. Completely and totally anti-military.
Hispanionla
29-10-2006, 01:19
I read your post. I look at your name, then at your signature.

That's what's wrong with military school.
Moorington
29-10-2006, 01:20
Are you asking me?
Yes. Completely and totally anti-military.

Coming from Germany, and being anti-Military.

Whoa, dude, your an oxy-moron.

Whoa dude, I want to be an oxy-moron.

*Goes tries to be a gay, illegal citizen of the US*

Wait, thats already been taken.
Cabra West
29-10-2006, 01:22
Coming from Germany, and being anti-Military.

Whoa, dude, your an oxy-moron.

Whoa dude, I want to be an oxy-moron.

*Goes tries to be a gay, illegal citizen of the US*

Wait, thats already been taken.

You can call me "Miss", thank you.
If there's an oxymoron, I fail to see it.
Ardee Street
29-10-2006, 01:24
My opinion on this matter is similar to Cabra's.
Anglo Germany
29-10-2006, 01:30
I read your post. I look at your name, then at your signature.

Whats wrong with Order, Efficiency and Planning?
Neu Leonstein
29-10-2006, 01:34
Coming from Germany, and being anti-Military.

Whoa, dude, your an oxy-moron.
These days, it would be weird if it was the other way around.
Moorington
29-10-2006, 01:35
You can call me "Miss", thank you.
If there's an oxymoron, I fail to see it.

Oh come on Miss. Your a smart lady (I presume), take a stab at what I am trying to decide.

Two Hints:

It start with W-

and ends with:
*Cough... Cough*
orld War Two was the second war to ravage Europe. While the more deeper feelings of who caused what are always open to objection what is know is that Germany, in 1939 invaded Poland.

Similiar to World War I which also was started by the invasion of a nuetral country (Belgium) by Imperial Germany, an extention of war lasting since the Franco-Prussian war, if farther back.

*Cough... Cough...*

I just note that of all the countries which an anti-militeristic lady may come from, I would say Switzerland, or the Democratic Party of America would be one of the top ranked. Not Germany.
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:35
military school seems messed up and creepy. there's something really disturbing about teenagers with two much discipline. Plus, i think there is the bubble effect you get with all boarding school. oh, and army types freak me out, they seem to have this weird hard on for any kind of authority. but that's just me.
Hispanionla
29-10-2006, 01:36
Something tells me there isn't a very diverse pool of opinions in there, so you all come out thinking more or less the same things about pretty much everything.

Or am I wrong? Do you have any pacifist teachers, for example?
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:37
Coming from Germany, and being anti-Military.

Whoa, dude, your an oxy-moron.

stupid
Moorington
29-10-2006, 01:37
My opinion on this matter is similar to Cabra's.


As in Miss and you don't see the oxymoron?

Well Miss, please, feast your eyes on the above (or my last post).
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:37
Something tells me there isn't a very diverse pool of opinions in there, so you all come out thinking more or less the same things about pretty much everything.

Or am I wrong? Do you have any pacifist teachers, for example?

what do you mean?
Moorington
29-10-2006, 01:39
stupid

So is your grammer. So that makes us equal.
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:39
Oh come on Miss. Your a smart lady (I presume), take a stab at what I am trying to decide.

Two Hints:

It start with W-

and ends with:
*Cough... Cough*
orld War Two was the second war to ravage Europe. While the more deeper feelings of who caused what are always open to objection what is know is that Germany, in 1939 invaded Poland.

Similiar to World War I which also was started by the invasion of a nuetral country (Belgium) by Imperial Germany, an extention of war lasting since the Franco-Prussian war, if farther back.

*Cough... Cough...*

I just note that of all the countries which an anti-militeristic lady may come from, I would say Switzerland, or the Democratic Party of America would be one of the top ranked. Not Germany.

take any western european country and you can name a load of wars it started/was involved in. take nearly any big country. try it.
Hispanionla
29-10-2006, 01:39
Oh come on Miss. Your a smart lady (I presume), take a stab at what I am trying to decide.

Two Hints:

It start with W-

and ends with:
*Cough... Cough*
orld War Two was the second war to ravage Europe. While the more deeper feelings of who caused what are always open to objection what is know is that Germany, in 1939 invaded Poland.

Similiar to World War I which also was started by the invasion of a nuetral country (Belgium) by Imperial Germany, an extention of war lasting since the Franco-Prussian war, if farther back.

*Cough... Cough...*

I just note that of all the countries which an anti-militeristic lady may come from, I would say Switzerland, or the Democratic Party of America would be one of the top ranked. Not Germany.

Wow, that isn't a generalization.

I guess all americans are fat burger-eating couch potatoes, then? :rolleyes:
Neu Leonstein
29-10-2006, 01:40
So is your grammer. So that makes us equal.
Seriously though. Snap out of it, mate. WWII has been over for more than 60 years now and Germany is the last place to look for if you're after militarism.

http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=26&story_id=24846
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:40
So is your grammer. So that makes us equal.

racism vs. sentence fragmentation

god i am a bastard aren't i?

but while we are at it:

http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=grammer&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search
Neu Leonstein
29-10-2006, 01:42
but while we are at it:

http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=grammer&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search
Zing!
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:42
Zing!

:D
Anglo Germany
29-10-2006, 01:46
I dont thik we have any pacafist teachers, I know lots are Masons, adn there is a communist, but other than that I dont think so. Several are onl army officers, some are still serving.
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:48
I dont thik we have any pacafist teachers, I know lots are Masons, adn there is a communist, but other than that I dont think so. Several are onl army officers, some are still serving.

i go to a regular school. i dont think there are any masons. how do you find out?
Cabra West
29-10-2006, 01:49
Oh come on Miss. Your a smart lady (I presume), take a stab at what I am trying to decide.

Two Hints:

It start with W-

and ends with:
*Cough... Cough*
orld War Two was the second war to ravage Europe. While the more deeper feelings of who caused what are always open to objection what is know is that Germany, in 1939 invaded Poland.

Similiar to World War I which also was started by the invasion of a nuetral country (Belgium) by Imperial Germany, an extention of war lasting since the Franco-Prussian war, if farther back.

*Cough... Cough...*

I just note that of all the countries which an anti-militeristic lady may come from, I would say Switzerland, or the Democratic Party of America would be one of the top ranked. Not Germany.


In that case, I would seriously advise you to read up on German history from 1945 to today, both East and West.
While my total anti-militarism might be a bit extreme even for Germany, you will find that the majority of Germans is highly pacifist and generally very little pro-military.
Anglo Germany
29-10-2006, 01:51
We have one guy who is the most open Mason ive ever met, we justasked 'Sir are you a Mason" and the answer was yes.

The other reason is there is a teacher who cant stand Masons, and so told us a load, he doesnt like them becasue there was local corruption by Masons, to with parking tickets in the Port, but meh.
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:53
Similiar to World War I which also was started by the invasion of a nuetral country (Belgium) by Imperial Germany


wrong. check your facts.
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 01:55
We have one guy who is the most open Mason ive ever met, we justasked 'Sir are you a Mason" and the answer was yes.

sneaky. i must try that. do masons still do anything? because i am worried now, i live near the royal masonic school, will i be abducted as some part of a masonic brainwashing/world domination programme?
Hispanionla
29-10-2006, 01:59
I dont thik we have any pacafist teachers, I know lots are Masons, adn there is a communist, but other than that I dont think so. Several are onl army officers, some are still serving.

Well, the communist provides some semblance of a digressing opinion, I suppose. I don't know whether or not masons are part of a collective opinion group or not.

But the point stands, indoctrination ocurrs there, teachers have a very big influence on how a kid will think later on, and having no diversifying opinions means he'll accept whatever they thought as truth, without the necessary comparison of other ideas. If he does compare them, later on, chances are he'll already be decided on which idea he believes is right.
Moorington
29-10-2006, 02:07
Wow, that isn't a generalization.

I guess all americans are fat burger-eating couch potatoes, then? :rolleyes:

Yeah, taking in the fact that there is no Americans. Just some Germans, Britians, Afganistans, and whatnot.

Generally speaking about citizenship; McDonalds isn't a good stock just cause the government hands them enough money for their products that you wonder what the hell the US government was thinking.

Stop looking at me like that, I was talking about Airbus.


racism vs. sentence fragmentation

god i am a bastard aren't i?

but while we are at it...

No, you have fragmentation to, so now I am better. Besides, I have American asshole built into me. Meaning no, I won't agree with you Miss, or the other Miss, even if you corner me into... well- a corner.
Hortopia
29-10-2006, 02:22
No, you have fragmentation to, so now I am better. Besides, I have American asshole built into me. Meaning no, I won't agree with you Miss, or the other Miss, even if you corner me into... well- a corner.

"you have fragmentation too?" how have i been racist in this thread?

nearly all americans i have met have been nice people. im pretty sure you're just an asshole. stop dragging the 299,999,999 other people down with you.