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Japanese visitors to France are going insane. It seems the rudeness of Parisian citizens somehow makes polite Japanese tourists go off the deep end. How does a city like Paris that gets quite a lot of money from tourism expect to keep attracting tourists when it drives them nuts?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061023/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_paris_tourists;_ylt=AkyrbfE8QcF5diQ3dtRkA9nMWM0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

Japanese visitors to France are going insane. It seems the rudeness of Parisian citizens somehow makes polite Japanese tourists go off the deep end. How does a city like Paris that gets quite a lot of money from tourism expect to keep attracting tourists when it drives them nuts?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061023/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_paris_tourists;_ylt=AkyrbfE8QcF5diQ3dtRkA9nMWM0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

There was something on this yesterday, I think. Maybe the Japanese tourists should spend a few days in New York to get acclimated. :rolleyes: And have they become so sensitive and fragile now in Japan? These are the people who organized that big nature walk for American POWs in the Phillipines 60 years or so ago, now they can't take some snotty Frenchmen?

Edit: Oh, and welcome back, Holiness.

LOL

There was something on this yesterday, I think. Maybe the Japanese tourists should spend a few days in New York to get acclimated. :rolleyes: And have they become so sensitive and fragile now in Japan? These are the people who organized that big nature walk for American POWs in the Phillipines 60 years or so ago, now they can't take some snotty Frenchmen?

Edit: Oh, and welcome back, Holiness.

They are Japanese. They live in a highly ordered society in such a strange manner that their brains have to adapt by warping reality in order to survive in their natural habitat. Then they go to France where there warped reality is shattered by real reality and they go insane and must have their realities rewarped to properly reintegrate into Japanese society.

I thought everybody knew that the parsian rudeness was an act that's part of the tourists attractions.

Hell, if you'd go to Paris and get good service, I bet you'd be complaining.

There was something on this yesterday, I think. Maybe the Japanese tourists should spend a few days in New York to get acclimated. :rolleyes: And have they become so sensitive and fragile now in Japan? These are the people who organized that big nature walk for American POWs in the Phillipines 60 years or so ago, now they can't take some snotty Frenchmen?
Maybe that's the problem: They go there expecting to organise a few death marches and build a couple of rail bridges and are shocked and disappointed to the point of psychosis when all the French do is ignore them and sit in their cafes smoking gitanes, drinking strong coffee and even stronger wine, eating runny cheese with bread and trying to hump said Japanese tourist.

maybe Paris just attracts lots of crazy people :)

Note to Japanese tourists; stick with Germany for your European tours. They're reasonably polite folks, nice to deal with. If they feel like going for maximum polite, head for Canada.

I don't know why Canadians are so polite, but they are. It might be the snow, and the clean streets.

They are Japanese. They live in a highly ordered society in such a strange manner that their brains have to adapt by warping reality in order to survive in their natural habitat. Then they go to France where there warped reality is shattered by real reality and they go insane and must have their realities rewarped to properly reintegrate into Japanese society.

Maybe that's the problem: They go there expecting to organise a few death marches and build a couple of rail bridges and are shocked and disappointed to the point of psychosis when all the French do is ignore them and sit in their cafes smoking gitanes, drinking strong coffee and even stronger wine, eating runny cheese with bread and trying to hump said Japanese tourist.

There it is, then. As I recall, one of the complaints was that Paris was ... dirty. Imagine spending all that money and finding the place needs a thorough cleaning (reminds me of the bit in Shogun where Richard Chamberlain's character visits his crew and comes away scratching for fleas).

Note to Japanese tourists; stick with Germany for your European tours. They're reasonably polite folks, nice to deal with. If they feel like going for maximum polite, head for Canada.

I don't know why Canadians are so polite, but they are. It might be the snow, and the clean streets.

Unless you come from south of the border or the neighbouring province that speak the other language. Then you get the paris treatment if we disagree with your views. ;)

I'm suprised Paris didn't see that many Japanese and promptly surrender

Hell, if you'd go to Paris and get good service, I bet you'd be complaining.

Maybe I should stop being polite to tourists when they ask me for directions in Paris, then. ;)


Around a dozen Japanese tourists a year need psychological treatment after visiting Paris [...].
Already this year, Japan's embassy in Paris has had to repatriate at least four visitors -- including two women who believed their hotel room was being bugged and there was a plot against them.


Amazing... We do see a lot of Japanese tourists in Paris, but they always look perfectly sane. Except (and I'm not inventing this) that I keep seeing some taking photos of the oddest things. A perfectly nonedescript wall, a small bush in a park, a perfectly normal car... There must be some reason, but it's... weird.

I'm suprised Paris didn't see that many Japanese and promptly surrender

Oh dear god, the thread's gone back in time!

Unless you come from south of the border or the neighbouring province that speak the other language. Then you get the paris treatment if we disagree with your views. ;)

Even if I'm really polite as well?

Even if I'm really polite as well?

If you're real polite, we shall never know your stance on many contentious material and will act politely. As long as we get along, we get along famously.

Amazing... We do see a lot of Japanese tourists in Paris, but they always look perfectly sane. Except (and I'm not inventing this) that I keep seeing some taking photos of the oddest things. A perfectly nonedescript wall, a small bush in a park, a perfectly normal car... There must be some reason, but it's... weird.

Nah, that's what all East Asian tourists do, everywhere. I found some taking pictures in front of the most mundane building on the OSU Campus once, and another time in front of the shabbiest building on campus, Lord Hall. It had me baffled.

Maybe its a contrast in what people like to see

People in Japan always see giant buildings with pointy roof, Sushi Bars and Anime so maybe they take joy out of taking a random picture of the most mundane western style building.

Strange as it is...

Maybe its a contrast in what people like to see

People in Japan always see giant buildings with pointy roof, Sushi Bars and Anime so maybe they take joy out of taking a random picture of the most mundane western style building.

Strange as it is...

Yes, I can understand that. If I go to Japan one day, I'll probably do the same. And when I was in Cuba I took photos of cars. But that's because Cuban cars are special. ;)

It's probably just as well those Japanese didn't go to London, then. They'd probably spontaneously combust or something.

Japanese visitors to France are going insane. It seems the rudeness of Parisian citizens somehow makes polite Japanese tourists go off the deep end. How does a city like Paris that gets quite a lot of money from tourism expect to keep attracting tourists when it drives them nuts?Perhaps they could cater to a niche industry of masochists?

Bah, I have to put up with Parisian rudeness every single day, and I'm not crazy... yet.

I've been to Paris, and if it drives Japanese people crazy because of rudeness, I don't see how there are so many Japanese tourists in Australia...

Japanese visitors to France are going insane. It seems the rudeness of Parisian citizens somehow makes polite Japanese tourists go off the deep end. How does a city like Paris that gets quite a lot of money from tourism expect to keep attracting tourists when it drives them nuts?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061023/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_paris_tourists;_ylt=AkyrbfE8QcF5diQ3dtRkA9nMWM0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

The Parisians are not that rude. I am quite often there and don't have any problems. I feel more ill at ease in London than I do in Paris and people are less willing to help you. I don't think you get bad service in most Parisian shops. I suppose that it depends where you go, but most of the smaller shops I go into they ask if they can help me with anything almost as soon as I enter the shop. Some of the big shops are a nightmare, but I think rude, apathic workers in those kind of place isn't a Parisian thing in those places. I don't have to ask for directions anymore, but I never had any problem when I did. I always give directions if some asks. I don't like it very much if some shoves a map in my face and yells "Louvre! Louvre!", but I try to help them anyway, though that isn't the Japanese tourists that do that.

The Parisians are not that rude. I am quite often there and don't have any problems. I feel more ill at ease in London than I do in Paris and people are less willing to help you. I don't think you get bad service in most Parisian shops. I suppose that it depends where you go, but most of the smaller shops I go into they ask if they can help me with anything almost as soon as I enter the shop. Some of the big shops are a nightmare, but I think rude, apathic workers in those kind of place isn't a Parisian thing in those places. I don't have to ask for directions anymore, but I never had any problem when I did. I always give directions if some asks. I don't like it very much if some shoves a map in my face and yells "Louvre! Louvre!", but I try to help them anyway, though that isn't the Japanese tourists that do that.

Then maybe Parisians just hate Japanese people.

Japanese visitors to France are going insane. It seems the rudeness of Parisian citizens somehow makes polite Japanese tourists go off the deep end. How does a city like Paris that gets quite a lot of money from tourism expect to keep attracting tourists when it drives them nuts?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061023/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_paris_tourists;_ylt=AkyrbfE8QcF5diQ3dtRkA9nMWM0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-



I want a Monty Python produced sketch using Japanese actors !

I have been laughing my ass off for the last ten minutes just thinking about it.

France VS Japan....Godzilla vs. the great unwashed ...:D

I don't know; I went to Paris and everyone seemed pretty nice to me. Maybe it's because I'm not Japanese, or maybe it's because I'm not an asshole or something.

Then maybe Parisians just hate Japanese people.

I doubt it. The first time I came to Paris was a couple of Japanese friends and I don't think I was treated different when I go by myself. I think the Parisians like the Japanese because they spend the most money. :D I think they have problems because do go to the big shops more often. The free maps you get from the tourist office always have adverts for the big department stores. They probably aren't really used to the cultural differences either. What is normal in one society is different in another. When I am in Paris I would be shocked if the person the metro started talking to me unless they wanted directions, but when I am in Wales I don't think it is odd if I end having a conversation with person waiting for the bus with me.

Maybe it's simply a language problem.

Both French and Japanese are not necessarily known for their English skills. So I guess the Japanese have to try to talk French. I could understand that this might drive some of them insane.

I liked Paris. If you're in the right areas, it's a nice clean city. I found the drivers surprisingly civil. I didn't fear being mowed down by them like I did in London, or even here in Toronto.

Yes, there are shady people there, but, there are shady characters everywhere.

I want a Monty Python produced sketch using Japanese actors !

I have been laughing my ass off for the last ten minutes just thinking about it.

France VS Japan....Godzilla vs. the great unwashed ...:D
you know what? you are wrong,gozilla is a myth.
that why All chic people buy channel perfums,best all aroud against angry godzillas ..
i know one thing thougt, they don't stink like camember,and can not live in litle cages/boxes

I liked Paris... I found the drivers surprisingly civil.
Paris, France..?!?

I had to drive through Paris on my holiday trip last June, and I still have nightmares...

EDIT: especially the Arc de Triumph roundabout was interesting... kinda slow moving parking lot (http://drivel.ca/europe/paris/arcdetriomphe-roundabout.jpg)

you know what? you are wrong,gozilla is a myth.
that why All chic people buy channel perfums,best all aroud against angry godzillas ..
i know one thing thougt, they don't stink like camember,and can not live in litle cages/boxes


Now I see a bunch of Mimes running around spraying channel before being stomped on by a huge godzilla foot and becoming Mime pie...

This is not good....I cant breath...:D

Now I see a bunch of Mimes running around spraying channel before being stomped on by a huge godzilla foot and becoming Mime pie...

This is not good....I cant breath...:D
i can help you,i won't tuch you...
Calm.
now bend over and fart,,,,
Better?

:p
thanks.

Paris, France..?!?

I had to drive through Paris on my holiday trip last June, and I still have nightmares...

EDIT: especially the Arc de Triumph roundabout was interesting... kinda slow moving parking lot (http://drivel.ca/europe/paris/arcdetriomphe-roundabout.jpg)

I recommend then that you take a nice Friday afternoon drive down Yonge Street in Toronto; go from Front Street up to Steeles and get back to me on driving in Paris.

LOL

My sentiments exactly.

Rude to tourist in Paris ?

SHOCKING I SAY !


:D

This is the best thread ever.

GODZILLA goes to Paris ...take one ....:D Mothra din't shave her pits !!!!!!

OMG Mimes run wild in the street spraying channel at MOTHRA...

Godzilla eats a mime and makes a very bad farting projectile that hits JERRY LEWIS !!!!

The Army of France attacks !!!!

The Army of France attacks......

DUDE ..I SAID THE ARMY OF FRANCE ATTACKS !!


BRB...fucking unions.....

I recommend then that you take a nice Friday afternoon drive down Yonge Street in Toronto; go from Front Street up to Steeles and get back to me on driving in Paris.
Why?
Do you hate me?

I said I have nightmares from driving in Paris, now you want me to drive in an even worse place (allegedly). Well, screw you!

Wow, look at France go......

Treating their Japanese guests rudely, out of conrol car burning and rioting teenagers and youngsters, Oil for Food scandal (being in Saddam's pocket), Rwanda genocide accusations, threatening Israel, gone publicly threatening to use nukes vs the terrorists, what's next?

I'd say France has became a loose cannon.......

Japan's been on a Paris kick for a while (Japan likes to pick countries to glorify, when a certain country is in vouge, all the tourists go there).

Sadly, since there's a large jun-ai movement going on and Paris is billed as THE most romantic of cities... Well, I'm not surprised that they have problems when the show up.

It's probably like a number of Americans who show up in Japan and get shocked that Japan isn't anything like what they saw in anime.

As for the photo thing, Japanese are born with cameras in their hands... of course I've also seen gaijin taking pictures of the oddest things in Japan as well.

I'd say France has became a loose cannon.......
Luckily, nobody cares.

Wow, look at France go......

Treating their Japanese guests rudely, out of conrol car burning and rioting teenagers and youngsters, Oil for Food scandal (being in Saddam's pocket), Rwanda genocide accusations, threatening Israel, gone publicly threatening to use nukes vs the terrorists, what's next?

I'd say France has became a loose cannon.......
Yes, they're nothing like America which finger prints and photographs its tourists, invades for non-existant WMDs, loves dictators who use torture as long as they give us oil, and not only threatens to nuke anyone, but also blow up anyone in space if they feel like it...

Mmm... so much delicious irony.

Yes, they're nothing like America which finger prints and photographs its tourists, invades for non-existant WMDs, loves dictators who use torture as long as they give us oil, and not only threatens to nuke anyone, but also blow up anyone in space if they feel like it...

Mmm... so much delicious irony.

Come on now, there is way more America bashing threads then the French so let this one go to France, okay.

As for the "non-existant" WMD. Must I remind you, that not only US intelligence but the French, Israel, Russia, and a couple others also declared that Iraq did indeed have WMD. I speculate that they got crossed over into Syria.

Which dictators just "give" us oil? source please...maybe it's under free oil to USA.

As for your space theory, yes, we have a right to protect our interests including our satelites and whatever other space stations we have. We aren't the only ones going into space or are we?

As for the finger printing of tourists, I feel it's a good thing. That way if one commits a crime we'll atleast be able to match the prints and have a photo to match to make it easier. It makes sense to me. Why should we not be better prepared to apprehend the tourists that may be criminals?

Edit: Oh, and welcome back, Holiness.

Oh crap!

*kneels*

Paris is one thing, Japan is another. Mix the two things and you get... KABOOM!!! KALEIDOSCOPE OF KRAZINESS!!!!111 woooOOOoooOOooo.... :eek:

Come on now, there is way more America bashing threads then the French so let this one go to France, okay.
If you actually come up with something interesting than the standard stuff, I will be glad to do so.

But in any case, I mearly pointed out the irony of calling France a loose canon with the current actions of the US.

As for the "non-existant" WMD. Must I remind you, that not only US intelligence but the French, Israel, Russia, and a couple others also declared that Iraq did indeed have WMD. I speculate that they got crossed over into Syria.
And must I remind you that President Bush himself has admited that there were no WMDs. Your speculation is just that, speculation with no proof and a whole lot of desperate wishing.

Which dictators just "give" us oil? source please...maybe it's under free oil to USA.
See Saudia Arabia. Free? No, never said free.

As for your space theory, yes, we have a right to protect our interests including our satelites and whatever other space stations we have. We aren't the only ones going into space or are we?
We apparently also have the right to prevent anyone we don't like going into space. Didn't know that outside Earth's atmosphere was considered part of the US.

As for the finger printing of tourists, I feel it's a good thing. That way if one commits a crime we'll atleast be able to match the prints and have a photo to match to make it easier. It makes sense to me. Why should we not be better prepared to apprehend the tourists that may be criminals?
But it makes the Japanese uncomfortable, very uncomfortable, some to the point where they will no longer go to the US.

And, sweet irony again, when Brazil did the same, US tourists were screaming about it.

If you actually come up with something interesting than the standard stuff, I will be glad to do so.

But in any case, I mearly pointed out the irony of calling France a loose canon with the current actions of the US.


And must I remind you that President Bush himself has admited that there were no WMDs. Your speculation is just that, speculation with no proof and a whole lot of desperate wishing.


See Saudia Arabia. Free? No, never said free.


We apparently also have the right to prevent anyone we don't like going into space. Didn't know that outside Earth's atmosphere was considered part of the US.


But it makes the Japanese uncomfortable, very uncomfortable, some to the point where they will no longer go to the US.

And, sweet irony again, when Brazil did the same, US tourists were screaming about it.

Yes Bush said that after the continued search for them by several other nations intelligence said they were there.....

How many definitions are there for "give"..... okay there is several but here's the link..... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/give

Yes we have the right to defend our interests that we have in space whether you like it or not. Do you realize how much money we have invested in NASA? Enough to start protecting it, period.

As for the tourists, if they don't like the policy of being fingerprinted and photographed, well, then they don't have to come here. You have a right to have the capabilities if a crime is committed to go after the person who offended.

We're currently dealing with over population anyways.

Guys, this has little to do with France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_syndrome

Some guys are just nuts. And if some Japanese people get their cues about Paris from the movies...

Even Bonny the Ogre thought the Parisans were rude.

Maybe it's simply a language problem.

Both French and Japanese are not necessarily known for their English skills. So I guess the Japanese have to try to talk French. I could understand that this might drive some of them insane.

Buh? :confused:

Yes Bush said that after the continued search for them by several other nations intelligence said they were there.....
What part of President Bush admits there were no WMDs do you not wish to understand or accept?

How many definitions are there for "give"..... okay there is several but here's the link..... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/give
The dictionary trick works better when your dictionary doesn't back me up in my usage.

Yes we have the right to defend our interests that we have in space whether you like it or not. Do you realize how much money we have invested in NASA? Enough to start protecting it, period.
Other countries may take offence to the US proclaiming ownership of the skies above their countries. How pissed would you be if China claimed the same?

As for the tourists, if they don't like the policy of being fingerprinted and photographed, well, then they don't have to come here. You have a right to have the capabilities if a crime is committed to go after the person who offended.
That's what they are doing, international tourism has dropped off quite a bit.

But, once again, you miss the point. You blithly state France is offending the Japanese tourists without noting that, hey, the US is doing the same to everyone else in the world.

We're currently dealing with over population anyways.
300 million is hardly over population considering the size of the United States and how much land is liveable.

In any case, I invite you to go back to your dictionary and look up tourist, you may be enlightened.