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Normally I don't really follow Californian domestic politics, but this recent Spiegel article got me thinking.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,444049,00.html
Schwarzenegger Steals Thunder from Democrats
By Marc Hujer in Sacramento, California

California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has once again reinvented himself. While his fellow Republicans suffer from the president's decline in popularity, Schwarzenegger is billing himself as a savior of the environment. Voters trust him, and his name has now become just as closely associated with politics as it once was with bodybuilding and acting.

He's become quite a decent politician, and certainly one who attacks issues. He's also managed to regain popularity and pretty much terminate the opposition in his state (hehe).

His dream was to become president, but the constitution won't let him (which I assume is because of a relic back from a time when colonials were fighting immigrants of sorts from Britain).

It's not gonna happen, but would you want that bit of the constitution ammended? Would Arnie make a good president?

Yes, I would like that bit of the Constitution amended. No, I doubt he would make a good president.

Though I also doubt he can get the Republican party nomination.

Yes and no. I'd like to see that part of the Presidential requirements removed because I think it is a relic and it's a bit hypocritical that a country that puts a large chunk of its national identity into its immigrant heritage won't let immigrants run the show.

As for Arnie, hell no I don't want him as President. If I still lived in California, I'd be voting for Angelides in two weeks.

I, personally, wouldn't mind amending the constitution to strip that out, though I doubt that will ever happen.

As for the Govenator... no, I don't think I would vote for him as president... possibly because being from California's next door neighbor, I'm having too much fun watching that circus to have my entertainment removed.

He'd not make a good president, but he'd certainly make an entertaining one.

Yes and no. I'd like to see that part of the Presidential requirements removed because I think it is a relic and it's a bit hypocritical that a country that puts a large chunk of its national identity into its immigrant heritage won't let immigrants run the show.

As for Arnie, hell no I don't want him as President. If I still lived in California, I'd be voting for Angelides in two weeks.

big surprise there.


as for the OP, i do think the constitution should be amended but you should have to be a citizen and reside in the U.S. for at least 25 years. Maybe more.

His dream was to become president, but the constitution won't let him

since they gave up pretending that the document matters in most matters, i think the governator could get away with it. assuming that the bush movement lets a relative outsider like him have access at all, of course.

since they gave up pretending that the document matters in most matters, i think the governator could get away with it. assuming that the bush movement lets a relative outsider like him have access at all, of course.


The "Bush Movement" will be gone in two years.

The "Bush Movement" will be gone in two years.Oh, there's still one electorally viable brother left.

There's still Jebediah.

And the secret clone dynasty of Bush's they're building. Why do you think he's so much less conservative on stem cell issues?

Oh, there's still one electorally viable brother left.

That'll make it a real monarchy.

That'll make it a real monarchy.

The scary thing is that Jeb! is the smart brother and he actually believes all that PNAC shit. Imagine Dubya's foreign policy by a guy who isn't a complete moron, and you have a truly terrifying prospect.

There's still Jebediah.

And the secret clone dynasty of Bush's they're building. Why do you think he's so much less conservative on stem cell issues?

Less conservative???

His only veto to date was used to block stem-cell research, and you say he is less conservative on stem-cell issues?

Can I have some of whatever it is you're smoking?

If you loved Reagan, you'd will find the Presidentator less than impressive.

If you HATE Reagan, you'd will find a way out of the country.

US Secret Service has callsigns for their major protectees; what do you think would be approriate for Arnold? "The Running Man"?

But Arnie is a destroyer Cyborg in human disguise sent back in time to ensure humanity cannot stop it's own destruction, clearly he cannot care about the environment.

It's not gonna happen, but would you want that bit of the constitution ammended? Would Arnie make a good president?

Nah, and god no.

It's not gonna happen, but would you want that bit of the constitution ammended? Would Arnie make a good president?It worked out for the people in Demolition Man, but I don't know if I'd like to see red meat outlawed.

I never understood that bit about a foreigner-born, US-naturalised US citizen cannot be elected as President of the USA. Albert Einstein got US naturalisation, still he couldn't candidate to presidency (if he ever wanted to).

Anyway, Schwarzennegger is too far right-wing for me.

But Arnie is a destroyer Cyborg in human disguise sent back in time to ensure humanity cannot stop it's own destruction, clearly he cannot care about the environment.

He's a cop, you idiot.

I think it should be amended. It should be the right of every citizen to be able to run for office, not just those born there. I wouldn't vote for him though.

Cyclones do push up the price of bananas.

It's not gonna happen, but would you want that bit of the constitution ammended? Would Arnie make a good president?Are you kidding? Just watch Demolition Man to see that that's a bad idea.

The "Bush Movement" will be gone in two years.

on what sort of crazy line of reasoning could one possibly come to such a stupid conclusion?

Cyclones do push up the price of bananas.

QFT

And I think all countries should allow foreign born citizens to run for President/prime minister/miss world contestant

And I would never vote for this:http://www.traxzone.com/soundtracks/covers/336.jpg

I dont really know much about Arnie as a politician. On the amendment though, I kind of go against my other leanings when I say to keep it how it is. I simply prefer that only US citizens who are born here be able to run.

fucker doesn't respect 2 ammendment rights so i'd never vote for rino girlyman arnold - fortunately i won't have to as he's prohibited as he should be from the office

any US citizen should be able to run for president. it doesnt really matter where you are born. it never made much sense to me.

He's a cop, you idiot.

OK, that was awesome.

on what sort of crazy line of reasoning could one possibly come to such a stupid conclusion?

Umm...

Chances are even a Republican president would appoint an entirely new Cabinet, thus relieving Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and the rest of thier jobs.

Let alone a Democratic President.

Bush comes one day closer to handing the White House back to the Democrats with every day that the war goes on.

Lets say McCain gets the Rep bid, and by some miracle, gets elected.

You think hes gonna keep Karl Rove on staff?

By 08, the Dems will control the House and Senate.
You will be able to thank Bush for that.

It will be his only positive contribution in office.

Umm...

Chances are even a Republican president would appoint an entirely new Cabinet, thus relieving Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and the rest of thier jobs.

Let alone a Democratic President.

Bush comes one day closer to handing the White House back to the Democrats with every day that the war goes on.

Lets say McCain gets the Rep bid, and by some miracle, gets elected.

You think hes gonna keep Karl Rove on staff?

By 08, the Dems will control the House and Senate.
You will be able to thank Bush for that.

It will be his only positive contribution in office.
If you think that's a positive contribution you're more insane than he is.

I am Governor Schwarzenneger
Pretty soon I'll be dictator
When they make me President.
Democracy is going away
Hasta la vista, Baby!
I will command all of you
Kindergarten Cop in every school
Or i will Terminate you!

Kali-fornia uber alles
Kali-fornia uber alles
Uber alles Kali-fornia
Uber alles Kali-fornia

Enron will control you
Like they staged the recall coup
Steroids for the master race
So you all can have my face!
Close your eyes, can't happen here
Bush and Cheney are already here
Third Reich will come back, you say
Now that Fox news has their way
Can I grope your titties today?

Kali-fornia uber alles
Kali-fornia uber alles
Uber alles Kali-fornia
Uber alles Kali-fornia

Mandate: Two-Thousand-und-four
Knock knock at your bedroom door
It's the Homeland Security Police
You're a terrorist, and so is your niece
Drag you secretly to a camp
Where we keep all the girlie men
Don't you worry, it's for a cause
Feeding Haliburton's claws
Die on your feet of uranium gas
North Korea or Iraq
Run you over with my Hummer, Baby
When you mess with Schwarzenneger
And all the money that's making him bigger.

Kali-fornia uber alles
Kali-fornia uber alles
Uber alles Kali-fornia
Uber alles Kali-fornia

I'll be back!

I am Governor Schwarzenneger
Pretty soon I'll be dictator
When they make me President.
Democracy is going away
Hasta la vista, Baby!
I will command all of you
Kindergarten Cop in every school
Or i will Terminate you!

Kali-fornia uber alles
Kali-fornia uber alles
Uber alles Kali-fornia
Uber alles Kali-fornia

Enron will control you
Like they staged the recall coup
Steroids for the master race
So you all can have my face!
Close your eyes, can't happen here
Bush and Cheney are already here
Third Reich will come back, you say
Now that Fox news has their way
Can I grope your titties today?

Kali-fornia uber alles
Kali-fornia uber alles
Uber alles Kali-fornia
Uber alles Kali-fornia

Mandate: Two-Thousand-und-four
Knock knock at your bedroom door
It's the Homeland Security Police
You're a terrorist, and so is your niece
Drag you secretly to a camp
Where we keep all the girlie men
Don't you worry, it's for a cause
Feeding Haliburton's claws
Die on your feet of uranium gas
North Korea or Iraq
Run you over with my Hummer, Baby
When you mess with Schwarzenneger
And all the money that's making him bigger.

Kali-fornia uber alles
Kali-fornia uber alles
Uber alles Kali-fornia
Uber alles Kali-fornia

I'll be back!

What.......:confused:

What.......:confused:

wheeee.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsYxk_vN-9U)

Ok, I'm hearing plenty of people arguing that Arnie would make an awful President, but no-one is speaking up in order to defend him.

I'm from Australia, so American politics largely eludes me apart from the fact that not a lot of people like Bush and that Rice woman has got big teeth and a name that would make Tolkein proud. I'm just wondering why people don't think he would be a good president? I've largely heard good things about him, but thats from the media and we all know how biased those sources are.

So, would someone please enlighten me as to why he would make a bad president? I'm genuinely curious.

wheeee.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsYxk_vN-9U)

Thank you so much for that. :D

Personally, I think he'd make a damn good president. But I also agree with the requirement for the President to be native-born, so I wouldn't ever be able to vote for him.

I'm not American but I wouldn't want a twisted pervert to be President. Or governor of a state for that matter. No person who sexually assaults others should be.

I've said it once, I'll say it again:

It'll be a cold day in Hell before I vote Republican.

http://home.maine.rr.com/waassaap/Forum%20Pictures/ihavecome.jpg

ZOMG! The Terminator as President, it'd rock! At least you'd have a guy running the country with some charisma for once, and besides it wouldn't be the first actor you've had as president. Fuck it.....they all are:D

Ok, I'm hearing plenty of people arguing that Arnie would make an awful President, but no-one is speaking up in order to defend him.

I'm from Australia, so American politics largely eludes me apart from the fact that not a lot of people like Bush and that Rice woman has got big teeth and a name that would make Tolkein proud. I'm just wondering why people don't think he would be a good president? I've largely heard good things about him, but thats from the media and we all know how biased those sources are.

So, would someone please enlighten me as to why he would make a bad president? I'm genuinely curious.

Because he's a crappy incompetant demagogue governor.