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H.P. Lovecraft

New Naliitr
25-10-2006, 03:00
Very, very simple question. What do you think of his stories? I just finished reading "Pickman's Model". First one of his stories I've read. If that's supposed to be mild, then god damn...
Pyotr
25-10-2006, 03:02
Oh, yeah. Lovecraft is one scary writer, makes steven king look like a boyscout. I prefer E.A. Poe though, I like the poetry better.
The Waaaagh
25-10-2006, 03:02
I loved the Shadow over Innsmouth and the Colour of Space. Both were excellent, although Colour of Space was much more of a shock-read than Innsmouth, considering the descriptions of people being turned into dust while still alive.
JuNii
25-10-2006, 03:06
Very, very simple question. What do you think of his stories? I just finished reading "Pickman's Model". First one of his stories I've read. If that's supposed to be mild, then god damn...

you really are a glutton for punnishment... arn't you...
















oh well... Pleasant Dreams, and I'll be seeing you at Arkham!
New Naliitr
25-10-2006, 03:11
you really are a glutton for punnishment... arn't you...
















oh well... Pleasant Dreams, and I'll be seeing you at Arkham!

Reading The Music of Erich Zann now... God damnit... I must continue to read though...
Hiemria
25-10-2006, 03:14
I think he's great. He is way better than Poe in my opinion. I like Poe, Lovecraft is just much better. Pickman's model is a good one. The Colour Out of Space is excellent as well.
Zarakon
25-10-2006, 03:15
He is a genius. If I were female, I would bring him back from the dead to bear his children. I think he would see something very fitting in this.
Kilani
25-10-2006, 03:15
I love his stuff...I like The Statement of Randolph Carter and The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward m'self.
LazyOtaku
25-10-2006, 03:17
Don't forget Call of Cthulhu. Has anybody seen the movie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Call_of_Cthulhu_%28film%29) yet?
Carterway
25-10-2006, 03:23
are frankly amazing - as far as I'm concerned, he is one of the main inventors of modern horror. His descriptive way of writing has been emulated by many, but few if any are really able to catch the feel.

Pickman's model is more a short story or a vignette of his, but it is a great introduction to his stuff.

I guess if I was going to recommend other stuff that he wrote, so you get a feel of some of the other things he is capable of, try a story he wrote called "The Tomb" - while not as strictly horror as Pickman's Model, it shows more depth - as does another story, "The Outsider" which was my first introduction to Lovecraft. If you make it through that, then "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" is really one of his masterpieces.

The fact is, though, while he's known for horror he strayed a lot into high fantasy and occasionally into science fiction as well, though these are less well known. "Beyond the Wall of Sleep" and "The Colour Out of Space" are somewhat lesser known forays into science fiction for him - definitely worth reading for a change...

Then, maybe, "The Call of Cthulhu" next... :-) It's what he's best known for and can certainly give shivers, but while it is very good, it isn't his best.

Check http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/ for links to many of his stories online.

Enjoy!

And...

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 03:23
I started reading Lovecraft before I read my first fairy tale. My mom is a collector of horror literature, and so am I. Plus, Lovecraft was on the required reading list at my elementary school. I had a great upbringing. :)

EDIT: I started to list favorite titles and it rapidly turned into a complete bibliography, so I gave up.
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 03:24
The thing I love about Lovecraft is it never hits you when you read it. I can read him all day long and not feel a shiver...








Until about 3 am in the morning when I suddenly wake up and realize that the crawling chaos is in my head for the night with all those plesant images to keep me company until dawn.

He's still one of my all time favorite authors.
JuNii
25-10-2006, 03:25
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."GAHHHHH!!!! SAN CHECK!!!! :eek:











































DAMN... I failed.... :(
New Naliitr
25-10-2006, 03:27
So... Am I now damned to the pits of insanity for reading his work?
Kilani
25-10-2006, 03:29
GAHHHHH!!!! SAN CHECK!!!! :eek:


DAMN... I failed.... :(


*clutches his head* THE HORROR! MIND BLASTING CHAOS! THE BLACK GOAT WITH A THOUSAND YOUNG! SHUB-NIGGARAUTH! THE PIT OF THE SHOGGOTHS!

*falls over twitching and whimpering*
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 03:29
By the way, "Pickman's Model" is one of his stories set in a real place. It's Boston. You can actually hunt up the places he describes. Other real places in his stories include Providence, Rhode Island, the Red Hook section of Brooklyn, NY (which is no longer the same, for good or ill), and my personal favorite, Newfane, Vermont, which according to HP is crawling with giant, pink space crabs with batwings, only nobody notices. That's one of my favorite stories. I'm too lazy to look up the title right now, but I think it's The Whisperer in Darkness. Maybe.

Even his Brigadoon towns -- Arkham, Innsmouth, and Dunwich -- have close enough real world parallels that you can find candidates for them scattered around Masschusetts. It's a charming state.
Arrkendommer
25-10-2006, 03:31
He is a genius. If I were female, I would bring him back from the dead to bear his children. I think he would see something very fitting in this.

I knew I would find you here!
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 03:31
So... Am I now damned to the pits of insanity for reading his work?
Yes. Keep reading.
Kilani
25-10-2006, 03:32
Love him to death. I need to read more of his stuff though.
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 03:32
So... Am I now damned to the pits of insanity for reading his work?
You mean you're not down here already?

GET OVER HERE!
New Naliitr
25-10-2006, 03:33
By the way, "Pickman's Model" is one of his stories set in a real place. It's Boston. You can actually hunt up the places he describes. Other real places in his stories include Providence, Rhode Island, the Red Hook section of Brooklyn, NY (which is no longer the same, for good or ill), and my personal favorite, Newfane, Vermont, which according to HP is crawling with giant, pink space crabs with batwings, only nobody notices. That's one of my favorite stories. I'm too lazy to look up the title right now, but I think it's The Whisperer in Darkness. Maybe.

Even his Brigadoon towns -- Arkham, Innsmouth, and Dunwich -- have close enough real world parallels that you can find candidates for them scattered around Masschusetts. It's a charming state.

Great job. I'm god damned scared now. Based off of real places... Just like Pickman "based" his paintings off of real places...
JuNii
25-10-2006, 03:33
*clutches his head* THE HORROR! MIND BLASTING CHAOS! THE BLACK GOAT WITH A THOUSAND YOUNG! SHUB-NIGGARAUTH! THE PIT OF THE SHOGGOTHS!

*falls over twitching and whimpering*

*sits in the middle of a perfectly circular room... huddled with knees drawn up to his chest... muttering...*
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Muravyets
25-10-2006, 03:35
Great job. I'm god damned scared now. Based off of real places... Just like Pickman "based" his paintings off of real places...
It's like standing between two mirrors and seeing infinite reflections, but seeing tentacles behind you in only one of them, ain't it? Sleep tight. ;)
Kilani
25-10-2006, 03:35
*sits in the middle of a perfectly circular room... huddled with knees drawn up to his chest... muttering...*
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THE HOUND!
New Naliitr
25-10-2006, 03:36
And I thought /b/ creepy threads were scary...
Kilani
25-10-2006, 03:37
It's like standing between two mirrors and seeing infinite reflections, but seeing tentacles behind you in only one of them, ain't it? Sleep tight. ;)

I hate it when that happens. :(
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 03:37
*sits in the middle of a perfectly circular room... huddled with knees drawn up to his chest... muttering...*
HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR
*Quickly pins the Elder Sign on JuNii*

If anyone sees a dude in yellow... run and run quickly.
JuNii
25-10-2006, 03:37
And I thought /b/ creepy threads were scary...

They created an RPG baised off of HP Lovecrafts work... the Call of Chuthulu. and with the right gamemaster...




I still shiver when I hear the title "Grace Under Pressure" :eek:
JuNii
25-10-2006, 03:38
*Quickly pins the Elder Sign on JuNii*

If anyone sees a dude in yellow... run and run quickly.

*Cradles Elder Sign as if it's the most precious thing in the world.... continues muttering and rocking...*
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 03:39
Great job. I'm god damned scared now. Based off of real places... Just like Pickman "based" his paintings off of real places...
You just need to read MORE Lovecraft to know how to survive... that's all...
New Mitanni
25-10-2006, 03:40
I like them a lot, but they're probably an acquired taste. You've got to appreciate 1930's purple prose and liberal use of words like "eldritch" and "blasphemous."

My favorites include "The Call of Cthulhu" (of course), "At the Mountains of Madness", "The Colour Out of Space," and "Dreams in the Witch House".

BTW: the "Call of Cthulhu" CCG is pretty cool too, captures the feel of the whole mythos.
JuNii
25-10-2006, 03:43
BTW: the "Call of Cthulhu" CCG is pretty cool too, captures the feel of the whole mythos.
LOL... as I was saying... with a good gamemaster...

he ran us through a self written scenario... and in that story, the CCG cards were created by cultists to subhume the minds of the innocent...

after that scenario... we never played another CoC:CCG game. :p
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 03:50
I was right. It is The Whisperer in Darkness that has pink space crabs running around Newfane, Vermont (actually a lovely town). Read it:

http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thewhispererindarkness.htm

It is one of the most fun stories I have ever read. If you can make it through the interview with the invalid alien without laughing till you puke, you'll be treated to a pitched battle between a farmer and the space crabs that lasts the better part of a week and carries on despite occasional, short interruptions when the mailman comes by or the neighbors drop in for a visit.

from the story:

Nor, said the witnesses, could they have been any kind of animal known to Vermont. They were pinkish things about five feet long; with crustaceous bodies bearing vast pairs of dorsal fins or membranous wings and several sets of articulated limbs, and with a sort of convoluted ellipsoid, covered with multitudes of very short antennae, where a head would ordinarily be.
And no pooper! :eek:

You gotta read Lovecraft's letters about his work, too. My fave is when he described his job ghostwriting Imprisoned With the Pharoahs for "some boob named Houdini" and how he had banged out some of the most "unnameable horror ever to stalk cloven-hooved through the nether reaches of eldritch night" and was assured by his editor that the check was in the mail.
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 03:51
"Dreams in the Witch House".
That one caused me to stare at the corner of my room for about a week thinking I had seen something out of the corner of my eye.

I think my personal fav is The Outsider. That one's ending was pure horror.
The Psyker
25-10-2006, 03:53
You just need to read MORE Lovecraft to know how to survive... that's all...

There's ones were people survive? Oh, you mean are still alive, not not a gibbering heap driven mad by eldritch stygian horrors.

Anway I like reading them at night, perferably in a dark room, of course now that I think about it that might be why I haven't been able to bring myself to read any for a while...
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 03:56
There's ones were people survive? Oh, you mean are still alive, not not a gibbering heap driven mad by eldritch stygian horrors.
I just said you'd live, not that you'd keep your sanity intact. ;)
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 03:58
There's ones were people survive? Oh, you mean are still alive, not not a gibbering heap driven mad by eldritch stygian horrors.

Anway I like reading them at night, perferably in a dark room, of course now that I think about it that might be why I haven't been able to bring myself to read any for a while...
Eye strain. *nods*
The Psyker
25-10-2006, 04:18
Eye strain. *nods*

Oh, thats not a problem the anthology I have has glowing letters, although they do tend to squirm around for some reason...
Wallonochia
25-10-2006, 04:31
I absolutely love Lovecraft's work. However, I detest August Derleth for what he did to Lovecraft's universe.
Andaluciae
25-10-2006, 04:32
Very, very simple question. What do you think of his stories? I just finished reading "Pickman's Model". First one of his stories I've read. If that's supposed to be mild, then god damn...

I just read Pickman's Model myself, rather enjoyable. I shall read more by Lovecraft, I shall.

http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/index.html

This link 'll take you to a collection of works by H.P. Lovecraft. Pickman's model is a short, easy read. Fifteen minutes or so.
The Golden Simatar
25-10-2006, 04:38
Lovecraft is probably the best and most influencial horror writer of the 20th Century. His writing has such an interesting style to it, impossible to duplicate in such a great way.

From Beyond, Herbert West: Re-Animator, The Dunwich Horror, The Call of Cthulhu, Beyond The Wall of Sleep, The Dreams In The Witchhouse, At The Mountains of Madness, Shadow of Innsmouth, Dagon are probably my fav of Lovecraft.
The Most Glorious Hack
25-10-2006, 04:41
Very, very simple question. What do you think of his stories? I just finished reading "Pickman's Model". First one of his stories I've read. If that's supposed to be mild, then god damn...I've read pretty much everything the man ever wrote:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Tindalos/LottaLovecraft.jpg

He's one of my favorite authors. And, as an aside, for some reason, I left out about half my Lovecraft and Lovecraft-esque books out of that picture :/



I absolutely love Lovecraft's work. However, I detest August Derleth for what he did to Lovecraft's universe.I used to feel this way too. And I still think he was a crank, but without August's rabid fanboyism, many of Lovecrafts works would be lost or forgotten. His stories were crap, but he (almost single handedly) kept Lovecraft's legacy alive. Even S.T. Joshi gives him that much credit.
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 05:30
I've read pretty much everything the man ever wrote:
Hack hereby wins the Lovecraft Fan Award...

Hmm... his love of Lovecraft, which means lack of sanity, explains how he keeps up being a Mod here, don't it?
CthulhuFhtagn
25-10-2006, 05:38
By the way, "Pickman's Model" is one of his stories set in a real place. It's Boston. You can actually hunt up the places he describes. Other real places in his stories include Providence, Rhode Island, the Red Hook section of Brooklyn, NY (which is no longer the same, for good or ill), and my personal favorite, Newfane, Vermont, which according to HP is crawling with giant, pink space crabs with batwings, only nobody notices. That's one of my favorite stories. I'm too lazy to look up the title right now, but I think it's The Whisperer in Darkness. Maybe.

The Shunned House is real as well. I've seen it. The wall bulges outwards, as if something tremendous leans against it.
The Psyker
25-10-2006, 06:01
Hack hereby wins the Lovecraft Fan Award...

Hmm... his love of Lovecraft, which means lack of sanity, explains how he keeps up being a Mod here, don't it?

Wouldn't CthulhuFhtagn be slightly more deserving, he after all wears his fanhood on his digital alter ego so to speak.
CthulhuFhtagn
25-10-2006, 06:04
Wouldn't CthulhuFhtagn be slightly more deserving, he after all wears his fan hood on his digital alter ego so to speak.

Nah, I haven't read all of Lovecraft's writings yet. Still need to read The Shadow Out Of Time, all of his essays but Supernatural Horror in Literature, and most of his poetry.
Merikan
25-10-2006, 06:05
Very, very simple question. What do you think of his stories? I just finished reading "Pickman's Model". First one of his stories I've read. If that's supposed to be mild, then god damn...

I think Lovecraft, the originator is the best of the writers, but Conan the Barbarian (also in the Lovecraftian universe) has some good stories too.

i read the chronicles of narnia and the hobbit in grade school, and when i :confused: asked the school librarian for books by other inklings she (obviously in dire need of trepanning because no sane librarian woul do this to a kid) said, "i think lovecraft is an inkling... go to the public library and check him out." :eek: i did, (mountains of madness and other stories), and had nightmares for years. (looking back i can laugh)

it wasnt until my later teen years that i could appreciate the genre. Dunwich Horror is one of the best. If you like gaming --"Call of Cthulu, RPG" is excellent. Color Out of Space, Mountains of Madness, Call of Cthulu, and Wall of Sleep also up there, or out there if you prefer. :)
The Psyker
25-10-2006, 06:12
I think Lovecraft, the originator is the best of the writers, but Conan the Barbarian (also in the Lovecraftian universe) has some good stories too.

Well, that was more due to Lovecraft and Howard coresponding with each other leading to Howard incorparating a number of things from Lovecraft, than any direct attempt to include Hyborea in the Cthulhu canon.
The Most Glorious Hack
25-10-2006, 06:28
Hmm... his love of Lovecraft, which means lack of sanity, explains how he keeps up being a Mod here, don't it?I'm glad something does.


Wouldn't CthulhuFhtagn be slightly more deserving, he after all wears his fanhood on his digital alter ego so to speak.*cough (http://www.nationstates.net/hp_lovecraft)* *cough (http://www.nationstates.net/petoht_al_rayn)* And, well, look at my main nation's flag (http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/the_most_glorious_hack.jpg) ;)
The Psyker
25-10-2006, 06:31
I'm glad something does.


*cough (http://www.nationstates.net/hp_lovecraft)* *cough (http://www.nationstates.net/petoht_al_rayn)* And, well, look at my main nation's flag (http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/the_most_glorious_hack.jpg) ;)

All right that pretty much settles any debate on your worthiness IMHO.
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 06:32
*cough (http://www.nationstates.net/hp_lovecraft)* *cough (http://www.nationstates.net/petoht_al_rayn)* And, well, look at my main nation's flag (http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/the_most_glorious_hack.jpg) ;)
I think I liked your previous avatar better though, it was MUCH more interesting... though it had slight tendancy to cause madness when viewed.
The Most Glorious Hack
25-10-2006, 06:44
I think I liked your previous avatar better though, it was MUCH more interesting... though it had slight tendancy to cause madness when viewed.Oh, I'll go back to it before too long. I just like to mix it up from time to time.
Merikan
25-10-2006, 06:50
ic. Conan had some good stories (from a teenagers perspective), i havent read them since that time. i didnt realize they arent considered part of the canon.

way out thoughts...
ever notice that in "Scooby Doo! where are you?" (the original series from the 60s)--the story starts out with the kids encountering that which man was not meant to know, but by the end of the story they seem to rationalize the events into a logically coherent (although implossible scenario) that seems sane enough to have a sherrif haul away someone who must be wearing a mask? What really happened and why dont they think it odd that the great dane can talk? and is it really a guy in a mask? was that really a sherrif? did it really take the poor sod away? or is tht just what they rationalize after they ran away gibbering in terror? hmmmm.
NERVUN
25-10-2006, 07:05
ic. Conan had some good stories (from a teenagers perspective), i havent read them since that time. i didnt realize they arent considered part of the canon.

way out thoughts...
ever notice that in "Scooby Doo! where are you?" (the original series from the 60s)--the story starts out with the kids encountering that which man was not meant to know, but by the end of the story they seem to rationalize the events into a logically coherent (although implossible scenario) that seems sane enough to have a sherrif haul away someone who must be wearing a mask? What really happened and why dont they think it odd that the great dane can talk? and is it really a guy in a mask? was that really a sherrif? did it really take the poor sod away? or is tht just what they rationalize after they ran away gibbering in terror? hmmmm.
I give you... The Insects from Shaggy!
http://www.thekeep.org/~wombat/Stories/Cthulhu/Shaggy



We really need a good spooky font for NSG for when we make these types of posts... :p
CthulhuFhtagn
25-10-2006, 07:33
All right that pretty much settles any debate on your worthiness IMHO.

That it does. I would like to contribute that I've found myself doodling the Yellow Sign at times.
Beethoveny
25-10-2006, 12:48
Herbert West: Reanimator :eek: :cool:
Kanabia
25-10-2006, 12:49
Lovecraft is genius. Probably my favourite author at the moment, although I too only read his work for the first time not long ago.
New Naliitr
25-10-2006, 12:55
I forget, is there an H.P. Lovecraft story where a guy kills an older guy because of his eye?
Drunk commies deleted
25-10-2006, 15:23
Very, very simple question. What do you think of his stories? I just finished reading "Pickman's Model". First one of his stories I've read. If that's supposed to be mild, then god damn...

I love H.P. Lovecraft's work. He inspired many, many writers and is an influence on Thomas Ligotti who is my favorite author.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 16:06
Very, very simple question. What do you think of his stories? I just finished reading "Pickman's Model". First one of his stories I've read. If that's supposed to be mild, then god damn...

That is mild. He wrote a lot of scarier stuff.
Dododecapod
25-10-2006, 16:06
I have read all of Lovecraft. I adore Lovecraft.

I have run Call of Cthulhu Campaigns.

And most recently, I intimated there was an Elder Horror lurking under the city in the CHAMPIONS game I run.

The PCs forgot about it. Silly, silly pcs...
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 16:06
I forget, is there an H.P. Lovecraft story where a guy kills an older guy because of his eye?

That's Poe's "The Tell-Tale Heart."
Drunk commies deleted
25-10-2006, 16:16
I forget, is there an H.P. Lovecraft story where a guy kills an older guy because of his eye?

I think that's Poe. Tell Tale Heart IIRC.
Drunk commies deleted
25-10-2006, 16:17
That's Poe's "The Tell-Tale Heart."

Damn, beaten to the punch.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 16:23
Damn, beaten to the punch.

I should bury you under the floorboards for your slowness. ;)
Velka Morava
25-10-2006, 16:33
If you like Lovecraft read his favourite novel ;)
It's Great god Pan by Arthur Machen.

You can find it on Project Gutemberg (http://www.gutenberg.org/)
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 16:37
Oh, thats not a problem the anthology I have has glowing letters, although they do tend to squirm around for some reason...
:D I had that edition, but it disappeared during a mysterious explosion during which weird colors glowed in the sky over my house and an eldritch piping was heard, but I couldn't tell where it was coming from.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 16:39
:D I had that edition, but it disappeared during a mysterious explosion during which weird colors glowed in the sky over my house and an eldritch piping was heard, but I couldn't tell where it was coming from.


When I lived in Providence, I used to go around the city, trying to find the buildings he described. I think I found the one in "Pickman's Model" and I'm pretty damn sure I know where the Black Church is. He also talked about a road in one of his stories about a graverobber (the title's escaping me at the moment). That road became part of I-95.
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 16:47
The Shunned House is real as well. I've seen it. The wall bulges outwards, as if something tremendous leans against it.
Yes, that's true, and it does have a mysterious, persistent, vaguely human-sized patch of mold on the cellar floor. It's on Benefit Street, in Providence, isn't it? Or used to be. Poe also wrote about that house. Legends about it started even while the original owners still lived in it, as early as the 18th century. It is associated with an early New England vampire legend. Historian and folklorist Michael E. Bell traces its real and literary history in his book "Food for the Dead: On the Trail of New England's Vampires," a book I highly recommend.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 16:50
Yes, that's true, and it does have a mysterious, persistent, vaguely human-sized patch of mold on the cellar floor. It's on Benefit Street, in Providence, isn't it? Or used to be. Poe also wrote about that house. Legends about it started even while the original owners still lived in it, as early as the 18th century. It is associated with an early New England vampire legend. Historian and folklorist Michael E. Bell traces its real and literary history in his book "Food for the Dead: On the Trail of New England's Vampires," a book I highly recommend.

Yes, that's another one, and it is on Benefit Street!

And Bell's book is a great one. It's what led me to visit Mercy Brown's grave in Exeter, RI.
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 16:54
When I lived in Providence, I used to go around the city, trying to find the buildings he described. I think I found the one in "Pickman's Model" and I'm pretty damn sure I know where the Black Church is. He also talked about a road in one of his stories about a graverobber (the title's escaping me at the moment). That road became part of I-95.
Pickman's Model is in Boston. It's the North End and Old West End. I've heard a rumor that there's even a Lovecraft walking tour here, but I think it's fan-run, not one of the established tour companies. I can't find it listed, but I've seen fleeting mentions of it in local doings-about-town papers.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 16:55
Pickman's Model is in Boston. It's the North End and Old West End. I've heard a rumor that there's even a Lovecraft walking tour here, but I think it's fan-run, not one of the established tour companies. I can't find it listed, but I've seen fleeting mentions of it in local doings-about-town papers.

The tour's in Providence. You're right, though. I was mixing up "Pickman's Model" with the one about the violinist (again, the title escapes me -- lots of beer and all, y'know ;) ).

EDIT: Wait a minute..."here"? You're in Boston? Well, howdy, neighbour! :D
Drunk commies deleted
25-10-2006, 16:56
The tour's in Providence. You're right, though. I was mixing up "Pickman's Model" with the one about the violinist (again, the title escapes me -- lots of beer and all, y'know ;) ).

The violinist story is the Music of Erich Zann.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 16:57
The violinist story is the Music of Erich Zann.

Ah, yes! Thank you! :D
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 17:02
Yes, that's another one, and it is on Benefit Street!

And Bell's book is a great one. It's what led me to visit Mercy Brown's grave in Exeter, RI.

I love that book! The only question it left me with is, what was up with those Tillinghasts? That name comes up in most of the New England vampire legends. They were like the Van Helsings of Rhode Island and Vermont. Any time three people died of tuberculosis, there would be a Tillinghast telling the family to dig up their dead and burn their hearts. Who were these people? I woud dearly like to find out where in Britain they came from and whether that place held or still holds such strong vampire folklore beliefs. Maybe this winter I'll do the research.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 17:04
I love that book! The only question it left me with is, what was up with those Tillinghasts? That name comes up in most of the New England vampire legends. They were like the Van Helsings of Rhode Island and Vermont. Any time three people died of tuberculosis, there would be a Tillinghast telling the family to dig up their dead and burn their hearts. Who were these people? I woud dearly like to find out where in Britain they came from and whether that place held or still holds such strong vampire folklore beliefs. Maybe this winter I'll do the research.

Good question. That hadn't occurred to me, frankly. Perhaps they were members of the Talamasca? :p
Muravyets
25-10-2006, 17:05
The tour's in Providence. You're right, though. I was mixing up "Pickman's Model" with the one about the violinist (again, the title escapes me -- lots of beer and all, y'know ;) ).

EDIT: Wait a minute..."here"? You're in Boston? Well, howdy, neighbour! :D
Uh...hi.

(Damn! Revealed too much again. *looks up number of that guy from Witness Protection*)
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 17:13
Uh...hi.

(Damn! Revealed too much again. *looks up number of that guy from Witness Protection*)

Don't worry. I'm not out to have you whacked. ;)

I'm just down the big road, in uh...Bristol County...or thereabouts. Yeah...

>.>
<.<
Wallonochia
25-10-2006, 17:24
I used to feel this way too. And I still think he was a crank, but without August's rabid fanboyism, many of Lovecrafts works would be lost or forgotten. His stories were crap, but he (almost single handedly) kept Lovecraft's legacy alive. Even S.T. Joshi gives him that much credit.

That's a fair point, I suppose. I can easily endure Derleth's hack writing if that's the price we must pay for Lovecraft's works.
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 17:26
That's a fair point, I suppose. I can painfully endure Derleth's hack writing if that's the price we must pay for Lovecraft's works.

Fixed for accuracy. :p