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I think under the circumstances, it's a good thing lightsabers aren't real.

Here's why;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk3rl3rH3Nk

If you like that, here's my favorite jedi fan film: Art of The Saber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdMPElN02DQ&NR)

:)

That was awesome! I can't imagine how long they spent working on the fight choreography.

Watching the second one now...

This site (http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/fxprojects/artofthesaber/index.asp) has a higher resolution version of 'Art of The Saber'. It's really top notch!

This site (http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/fxprojects/artofthesaber/index.asp) has a higher resolution version of 'Art of The Saber'. It's really top notch!

I just watched the one you linked in the OP. It was phenomenal!

Sith have lightsabers.

I just watched the one you linked in the OP. It was phenomenal!

There's no creativity like athletic nerd creativity. :)

There's no creativity like athletic nerd creativity. :)

Apparently. I need to get some of my fellow nerds together, I think. :cool:

There's no creativity like athletic nerd creativity. :)

Indeed, my friend, indeed.

omfg

:eek: Aaaaaaaaah! Aaaaaaaaaah! Aaaaaaaaaaah! :eek:

It's way better than the drivel Lucas showed us in the last movies! A PROPER fight! Not drowning in special effects.
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/ad/starwars.gif That's the way to go! Wooooot! :D

:eek: Aaaaaaaaah! Aaaaaaaaaah! Aaaaaaaaaaah! :eek:

It's way better than the drivel Lucas showed us in the last movies! A PROPER fight! Not drowning in special effects.
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/ad/starwars.gif That's the way to go! Wooooot! :D

Come now...you didn't appreciate the Yoda-Palpatine fight or Obi-Wan against Annakin?

I'm a HUGE fan of the original trilogy, but really, those battles were sweet.

I think the reason only those that use the force use lightsabers is because without compliemtary use of the force, a lightsabre is just a sword. I mean, Jedi and Sith and Dark Jedi can use their lightsabers to deflect blaster bolts and such, whereas a normal person can really only whack you with it.

By the Way, those movies redefine the meaning of geek. Logically, it follows that in the redefinition of geek, there also comes a redefinition of cool, and my personal dream. *Wipes tear from eye*

Come now...you didn't appreciate the Yoda-Palpatine fight or Obi-Wan against Annakin?

I'm a HUGE fan of the original trilogy, but really, those battles were sweet. This is true. The original series reek of nostalgia and ggod times, but the prequel trilogy has a much more interesting plot and characters, and vastly superior fight/war scenes. Shockingly, in fact. I rewatched the original trio and the fight scenes stink. Really they suck. That being said, Haydyn Christensen needs to die for his ever so shitty portrayal of the wonder years of the only true father figure I ever had. *Sticks another pin in the eye of Voodoo doll*

This is true. The original series reek of nostalgia and ggod times, but the prequel trilogy has a much more interesting plot and characters, and vastly superior fight/war scenes. Shockingly, in fact. I rewatched the original trio and the fight scenes stink. Really they suck. That being said, Haydyn Christensen needs to die for his ever so shitty portrayal of the wonder years of the only true father figure I ever had. *Sticks another pin in the eye of Voodoo doll*

Yeah, he's a whiny wanker.

The first one is what Star Wars would've been if the Wachowski's had directed.

The first one is what Star Wars would've been if the Wachowski's had directed.

Not expensive enough. :p

yeah it was pretty good, but it's hard to take the fight seriously when they both look so nerdy.

yeah it was pretty good, but it's hard to take the fight seriously when they both look so nerdy.

You have obviously never been threatened by a nerd...Especially one who's just lost their glasses.

You have obviously never been threatened by a nerd...Especially one whose just lost their glasses.

In my case... Already pissed off. I never had glasses :D

I liked how it ended in the first one. And I've seen Art of the Saber before. Got it in my iTunes library.

Come now...you didn't appreciate the Yoda-Palpatine fight or Obi-Wan against Annakin?

I'm a HUGE fan of the original trilogy, but really, those battles were sweet.

Too much CGI drivel, it felt like watching the cutscene of a (poor) videogame. Yoda Vs. Palpatine was good, but too short.

Meh.

I want a lightsaber..........NOW!

I'd have me a double-bladed violet light saber. I think that would be sufficiently girly.

I would go yellow or orange, single, it would look absolutely rockin' in a similar outfit to the one Luke wore in ROTJ, and yeah, the new trilogy suxxors hardcore, all CGI, no plot... seriously...

Actually, many Star Wars characters posessed lightsabers. While they were typically only posessed by Jedi and Sith, there are some non-force-users that collected them as trophies. Likewise, while utilizing a lightsaber was very dangerous to those not Force-capable, there are also certain cases where this is exempted. The best example is probably General Grievous as he appeared in the movies; his cyborg body allowed him to not only wield a lightsaber with skill, but also utilize four at once (though doing so in a really crappy way while fighting Obi-wan).

I can't recall any examples of typical, non-Force-sensitive humans using lightsabers with any proficiency, but I have a terrible memory to begin with. In the vast Star Wars canon, it's bound to have happened once.. While it's greatly unlikely that an ordinary human could reach a lightsaber proficiency on the level of the Jedi or Sith (especially due to the Force-aided maneuvers utilized by those two groups), it's not entirely impossible that a great deal of training could make one borderline effective with it. As I understand it, the main problem is that all of the weight of the weapon is in the hilt, making it extremely dangerous to a clumsy or untrained user. Aside from that, it *is* a melee weapon, and those unable to make astounding leaps (again, as those aided by the Force can) would likely find more use in a good blaster.

And as to lightsaber preferences, I'm a traditionalist: Single-bladed, red saber for me! Of course, I'd probably prefer a much more Force-oriented fighting style anyway.. Being able to levitate heavy things and whip them at people is as practical as it is badass.

i would reply also that as a concept the light saber predated star wars, appearing in a novella by gordie dickenson called, when published as a two parter in analog, sometime back in the 70s, whenever it was that it was, "wolfling".

the light sabers in that story were in many ways much superior to those in the star wars series. whith some rather more interesting and innovative tecniques for fighting with them as well.

for one thing they were real time adjustable in length and consisted of a series of concentric tubes of energy with a tapered, pointed, tip.

if you liked the light sabers in star wars you really need to read that one if you can get ahold of it. there were other concepts in it which were also precursors to certain contexts in b5 and elements in frank herbert's series dune.

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Yes, it probably is a good thing we don't have lightsabers (although I want one... I have the design made already, still lacking the crystal and energy source, though. Sooo typical!)

I bet if LG had had a lightsaber, he wouldn't have kids. Nor legs. Nor would his friends or his dog have any limbs (http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/lump_anim)...

http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/duell.gif

*Ponders whether or not LG has posted this before*http://209.85.12.227/1381/85/emo/shiftyeyes.gif

Actually, many Star Wars characters posessed lightsabers. While they were typically only posessed by Jedi and Sith, there are some non-force-users that collected them as trophies. Likewise, while utilizing a lightsaber was very dangerous to those not Force-capable, there are also certain cases where this is exempted. The best example is probably General Grievous as he appeared in the movies; his cyborg body allowed him to not only wield a lightsaber with skill, but also utilize four at once (though doing so in a really crappy way while fighting Obi-wan).

I can't recall any examples of typical, non-Force-sensitive humans using lightsabers with any proficiency, but I have a terrible memory to begin with. In the vast Star Wars canon, it's bound to have happened once.. While it's greatly unlikely that an ordinary human could reach a lightsaber proficiency on the level of the Jedi or Sith (especially due to the Force-aided maneuvers utilized by those two groups), it's not entirely impossible that a great deal of training could make one borderline effective with it. As I understand it, the main problem is that all of the weight of the weapon is in the hilt, making it extremely dangerous to a clumsy or untrained user. Aside from that, it *is* a melee weapon, and those unable to make astounding leaps (again, as those aided by the Force can) would likely find more use in a good blaster.

And as to lightsaber preferences, I'm a traditionalist: Single-bladed, red saber for me! Of course, I'd probably prefer a much more Force-oriented fighting style anyway.. Being able to levitate heavy things and whip them at people is as practical as it is badass.

well I was about to say aura sing, but then I remembered she was force-sensitive. Lightsaber are not a jedi exclusive, but they are those who used them most. the reason for mostly only force users having them is simple: a lightsaber is made with the aid of the force (and used with the aid of the force) (Like a test of ones prowess in the force (you have to build your own traditonally to became a Jedi knight) but then again you have other orders of the force like the jensaarai who focus on building on armor instead of lightsaber.

lightsaber of choice: depending on character: 1 or 2 red lightsabers (2 if physically inclined and favor using 2 weapons)

I always thought a silver lightsaber would be awesome-cool.

Come now...you didn't appreciate the Yoda-Palpatine fight or Obi-Wan against Annakin?

I'm a HUGE fan of the original trilogy, but really, those battles were sweet.
he was like a really angry Kermit the Frog.

he was like a really angry Kermit the Frog.
...with a lightsaber! http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/YodaOwnz.gif

he was like a really angry Kermit the Frog.

With Grover's voice. ;)

I think Lucas said something to the effect of "Yoda's the child of Kermit and Miss Piggy" in one of the commentaries or bonus features.

I think Lucas said something to the effect of "Yoda's the child of Kermit and Miss Piggy" in one of the commentaries or bonus features.

He was talking about himself.





...the old greedy loon...

I want a lightsaber..........NOW!

I have several. I'm even in the planning stages of building my own. :)

Yes, it probably is a good thing we don't have lightsabers (although I want one... I have the design made already, still lacking the crystal and energy source, though. Sooo typical!)

I bet if LG had had a lightsaber, he wouldn't have kids. Nor legs. Nor would his friends or his dog have any limbs (http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/lump_anim)...

http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/duell.gif

I have several lightsabers. Unfortunately and fortunately, they don't cut things. They are pretty good for whacking people though. :)

*Ponders whether or not LG has posted this before*http://209.85.12.227/1381/85/emo/shiftyeyes.gif

I am almost positive I posted Art of The Saber before, but not the other one. *nod*

ok, I will admit that Yoda pulling out a saber and opening some serious cannage was almost rocking, except, of course that the greatness of Yoda would not be so easily matched... honestly, Dooku holding his own? Nah, that is really rediculous, and Palpy shoulda been iced easily before they even got to the senate chamber thing. One redeemable factor: Finally a Jedi shows that he can kill using the force, when Yoda walks in to Palpy's chamber, and instantly drops the two 'imperial guards' like nothing, yeah that rocked, unlike all those poor saps of Jedi in Clones who decided that it would be better not to instantly sweep away every single droid in the arena (because of morality? Honetsly....)

ok, I will admit that Yoda pulling out a saber and opening some serious cannage was almost rocking, except, of course that the greatness of Yoda would not be so easily matched... honestly, Dooku holding his own? Nah, that is really rediculous, and Palpy shoulda been iced easily before they even got to the senate chamber thing. One redeemable factor: Finally a Jedi shows that he can kill using the force, when Yoda walks in to Palpy's chamber, and instantly drops the two 'imperial guards' like nothing, yeah that rocked, unlike all those poor saps of Jedi in Clones who decided that it would be better not to instantly sweep away every single droid in the arena (because of morality? Honetsly....)

Dooko was meant to be one of the most gifted saberists in recent history, while Yoda never focused on combat skills as much, instead Yoda focused on his connection with the force.

And Yoda did not kill with the force. Even then. those guards were knocked out.

knocked out? any reason for this rather than killing?

Of course killing would be in no way amoral, after all, they know that he is a Jedi Master, and exactly what he is capable of, and that any resistance would be severly not tolerated... and this is still Yoda, being, or not being a 'saberist' (perhaps 'swordsman' is the word you were looking for?), he would still do well against crappily made characters (such as Dooku, and new trilogy Palpy)

I have several lightsabers. Unfortunately and fortunately, they don't cut things. They are pretty good for whacking people though. :)

Futurama police lightsaber? :D

Futurama police lightsaber? :D

SOmething like that. :)

*whacks LG*

Damn saber doesn't work quite right.

*turns it on*

*cuts LG into two*

Oh my, now theres two of him.

i love to have silver lightsaber

i love to have silver lightsaber
In Soviet Russia, Silver Lightsaber has you!
I am almost positive I posted Art of The Saber before, but not the other one. *nod*
Yeah, i know you've posted something about the Lightsticks, i just don't know what.(My Awesome Internet:rolleyes: )


Why are they called Lightsabers, shouldn't it be Lightsabres?:confused:
*Checks up correct spelling of sabre/saber*...
EDIT:
Interesting, 2 accepted ways of spelling it. :eek:

Dooko was meant to be one of the most gifted saberists in recent history, while Yoda never focused on combat skills as much, instead Yoda focused on his connection with the force.

And Yoda did not kill with the force. Even then. those guards were knocked out.


Yoda killed a few clones.

As for Yodas combat skills:

Yoda taught Mace Windu, Windu practices "Form 7" apparently, wich is so offensively orientated, it makes some Jedi uncomfortable to learn it.
(kicks so much ass, its a little closer to the dark-side than most are comfortable with)

In fact, all Jedi are given thier intial instruction with the weapon by Yoda himself.

Obi Wan: "If you spent as much time in your saber studies as you do flying, you'd rival master Yoda."

Anakin: "I thought I already did."

Obi-Wan (laughing) "Only in your mind, my young apprentice."

Yoda would have killed Dooku, no question, had he not have had to keep two other Jedi from being crushed to death. This diversion allowed Dooku to escape.

Windu would have killed Palpatine had it not been for Anakin's intervention.

the sith also have lightsabers.

knocked out? any reason for this rather than killing?

Dark side points and control taken by the GM ;)

Anyways Anja Gallandro wields a lightsaber and isn't force sensitive (so far, still reading the under a dark sun trilogy).

But she's addicted to spice...

In Soviet Russia, Silver Lightsaber has you!

Yeah, i know you've posted something about the Lightsticks, i just don't know what.(My Awesome Internet:rolleyes: )


Why are they called Lightsabers, shouldn't it be Lightsabres?:confused:
*Checks up correct spelling of sabre/saber*...
EDIT:
Interesting, 2 accepted ways of spelling it. :eek:

THree once I get Sayebrrr.. approved by Webster's. :D

THree once I get Sayebrrr.. approved by Webster's. :D

Threaten them with your sayebrrr, that should speed up the process.

Threaten them with your sayebrrr, that should speed up the process.

I enjoy the rediculousness of these last two posts... they make me happy :D

Dark side points and control taken by the GM ;)

Anyways Anja Gallandro wields a lightsaber and isn't force sensitive (so far, still reading the under a dark sun trilogy).

But she's addicted to spice...

though I have not played the SWRPG, I would like to, and at the very least undersand your post, and it makes me smile

though I have not played the SWRPG, I would like to, and at the very least undersand your post, and it makes me smile


That reminds me. I've been meaning to order that game.

That reminds me. I've been meaning to order that game.

It's pretty sweet. I myself am more of a fan of the miniatures game.

I think under the circumstances, it's a good thing lightsabers aren't real.

Here's why;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk3rl3rH3Nk

If you like that, here's my favorite jedi fan film: Art of The Saber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdMPElN02DQ&NR)

:)

To actually answer the question asked in the topic title:

Only Jedi have lightsabers because it's suicide to try to wield one if you're non-Jedi.

..plus,.. only Jedi's get those MASSIVE discounts on LS-204K's (Light Saber Batteries) from Jed-Mart.



(( The coupons in the "Jedi Today!" newsletter are spectacular! ))

Does anyone know what is used to create the sound effects? I've always wondered.

I know it's a mishmash of things, but I believe part of it is from the hum of a movie projector.

Yoda killed a few clones.

As for Yodas combat skills:

Yoda taught Mace Windu, Windu practices "Form 7" apparently, wich is so offensively orientated, it makes some Jedi uncomfortable to learn it.
(kicks so much ass, its a little closer to the dark-side than most are comfortable with)

In fact, all Jedi are given thier intial instruction with the weapon by Yoda himself.

Obi Wan: "If you spent as much time in your saber studies as you do flying, you'd rival master Yoda."

Anakin: "I thought I already did."

Obi-Wan (laughing) "Only in your mind, my young apprentice."

Yoda would have killed Dooku, no question, had he not have had to keep two other Jedi from being crushed to death. This diversion allowed Dooku to escape.

Windu would have killed Palpatine had it not been for Anakin's intervention.

Not with no question. Yoda is very good, but he's not . . . well, in this case that's a bad analogy. But he's not invincible, nor is he even the best saberist in the Jedi Order; Mace is. Dooku had been in the order for quite some time, and was regarded as one of the most senior knights by the time he retired. Moreover, he's an acknowledged master of Form II, a form specifically designed to stop a lightsaber-wielding opponent (most saber-wielders focus on stopping blaster shots), whereas Yoda seems to practice Form IV, an offensive style that ups damage but it can wear you out through the amount of Force you have to channel, and leaves you wide open to counterattack if you don't keep the blade moving.

All in all, I'm not trying to knock Yoda, as he's absolutely devastating against all but the most skilled or agile opponents. But you shouldn't discount just how formidable Dooku is, as he's got an even better saber defense than Kenobi and what he lacks in the overwhelming number of shots that Yoda puts in, he more than makes up for with precision. Yoda probably would have won in the end through much better overall mastery of the Force, but it would have by no means been as easy as you suggest.

Would have been better if the guy in the end just shot him with a lazer pistol.

Beautiful.

Nah, even Yoda keepin' Obi-wan, and Anakin live, he could have killed Dooku blindfolded (y'know, as though lack of 'sight' is any hindrance to a froce-wielder.... lol) Also note that Yoda had to be distracted to save Obi-wan and Anakin... yet Dooku could apparently fling things without concern for losing the battle....

btw, Yoda is the greatest ever, so that settles all questions.

Don't think that I have 'answered' the topic question myself, yes, of course being that the lightsaber is a non-standardly balanced melee weapon in an age of high-end laser projectiles does discourage its use without good reason, but also, after Order 66 you can imagine the warm reception of anyone showing up with a lightsaber, imagine a posse of Stormtroopers busting you down because you have one, even if you can't use the force (although, if you could, they wouldnt be busting you down....) So yeah, after Order 66 since it became pretty uniformly unpopular to be Jedi, that is another large discourager.

Am I the only one who kept on thinking "Use the Schwartz?"

Am I the only one who kept on thinking "Use the Schwartz?"

No. :)

Both of those videos are really cool.

I kinda wish I had the oppertunity to work in one of them and get a final output like that.

No. :)

That was a great movie, Mel Brooks really was one of the great director when it came to parody movies. My favorite all time Mel Brooks film has to be "Blazing Saddles".

Here is my favorite scene of Blazing Saddles too!

Lyle: Now, come on, boys! Where's your spirit? I don't hear no singin'! - When you were slaves, you sang like birds. Go on. How 'bout a good ol' ****** work song?

Lyle: [railroad workers are singing "I Get A Kick Out of You"] Hold it! Hold it! Hold it! What the hell is that shit? I mean a real song, you know, like Swing Low Sweet Chariot. Don't know that one huh? Well how about the Camp town Ladies?

Workers: The Camp Town Ladies?

Lyle: Oh you know, Camp Town Ladies sing this song, do dah, do dah, The Camptown racetrack's five miles long Oh, de doo-da day

*The supervisors all break out in song and start dancing wildly and singing.*

Taggart: What in the world wide of sports is going on here? I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots!


Ahh classic.

Yoda probably would have won in the end through much better overall mastery of the Force, but it would have by no means been as easy as you suggest.

I wasnt attempting to discount Dooku by any means.
Anakin was incredibly powerful and very, very good with his blade, and Dooku could have killed him outright.
He did not.

There is no question as to who would ultimately win an all-out fight between Yoda and Dooku, in my opinion.
Yoda has had about 800 years more than Dooku to learn about his craft.
Simple as that.

"Much to learn, you have."

Easy?

No way.

But would Yoda come out the victor?

Definately.