NationStates Jolt Archive

Rather than waiting for my brithday to vote, I'm going to go right now. Early voting begins today in Florida, and since I have the day off (so to speak--I'm grading essays at home today), I'm going to do it today instead of taking the chance that there will be some "snafu" on Election day.

Wish me luck? :D

Rather than waiting for my brithday to vote, I'm going to go right now. Early voting begins today in Florida, and since I have the day off (so to speak--I'm grading essays at home today), I'm going to do it today instead of taking the chance that there will be some "snafu" on Election day.

Wish me luck? :D

:D You shouldn't need it, but good luck anyway.

Early voting starts today in Colorado, too, and there's a polling place quite near my office, so I think I'll duck in there today or toomorrow and cast the old ballot.

Wish me luck? :D

Certainly. Good luck.

Bad luck. bWAhAHaHahAH!!!!11

Bad luck. bWAhAHaHahAH!!!!11

So it's you who made me go all the way to the top of the parking garage to find a spot, huh? :upyours: :D

It's done, my vote cast into the ether where hopefully, it will be recorded accurately. Since I have to vote on those fucking electronic machines, I have no real security on that, but I did get the little "I voted" sticker, so I guess it's not a total wash.

remember, Vote Crist! please

Have fun TZ. Remember, think blue.

How does early voting work exactly, and who is eligible? Ive never heard of it except for the special case of absentee ballots. I voted early once with an absentee ballot I guess.

It's done, my vote cast into the ether where hopefully, it will be recorded accurately. Since I have to vote on those fucking electronic machines, I have no real security on that, but I did get the little "I voted" sticker, so I guess it's not a total wash.

Do your machines print a paper ballot? I read the ones we got in Missouri are supposed to spit out a paper ballot, which we dump in the box like we always have. Though that still doesn't guarantee that they'll COUNT the hardcopy ballots. :(

Vote early, vote often. That's what I always say.

remember, Vote Crist! pleaseAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do your machines print a paper ballot? I read the ones we got in Missouri are supposed to spit out a paper ballot, which we dump in the box like we always have. Though that still doesn't guarantee that they'll COUNT the hardcopy ballots. :(
Nope--it's the full, electronic "trust us" bullshit.

At least the Nelson/Harris race is too far apart to steal.

How does early voting work exactly, and who is eligible? Ive never heard of it except for the special case of absentee ballots. I voted early once with an absentee ballot I guess.
Well, in this part of Florida at least, early voting is available to every registered voter who can get to the handful of early voting places that are open. My normal voting place is only a block away from my place, but I drove five minutes to get downtown to vote early. I think they'll open more eaerly voting stations as we get closer to Nov. 7, and then on election day, all the regular places will be open.

Please bear in mind that we are currently engaged in a war against nihilistic terrorist organizations who seek to destroy America. I hope you will acknowledge this fact and vote accordingly. In the words of Bush, "the terrorists are trying to divide America and break our will, and we must not allow them to succeed."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you won't be laughing when he wins, which he will thanks to my vote;)

Please bear in mind that we are currently engaged in a war against nihilistic terrorist organizations who seek to destroy America.

I don't like the GOP either, but that seems a tad extreem.

you won't be laughing when he wins, which he will thanks to my vote;)

Oh, I have no illusions. Davis is down, and it's unlikely Crist will fuck up enough in the debate tomorrow to let Davis seriously close the gap. I was laughing at the fact that you suggested I vote for that clown in the first place.

Please bear in mind that we are currently engaged in a war against nihilistic terrorist organizations who seek to destroy America. I hope you will acknowledge this fact and vote accordingly. In the words of Bush, "the terrorists are trying to divide America and break our will, and we must not allow them to succeed."

I don't like the GOP either, but that seems a tad extreem.

:D

Oh, I have no illusions. Davis is down, and it's unlikely Crist will fuck up enough in the debate tomorrow to let Davis seriously close the gap. I was laughing at the fact that you suggested I vote for that clown in the first place.

the only clown is Davis ;) btw, when is the senate debate? or did they just cancel it because everyone knows harris will lose,and lose big being the gaint fucktard she is.

the only clown is Davis ;) btw, when is the senate debate? or did they just cancel it because everyone knows harris will lose,and lose big being the gaint fucktard she is.

It's either tonight or tomorrow, I think--I don't remember which is which on the schedule.

Please bear in mind that we are currently engaged in a war against nihilistic terrorist organizations who seek to destroy America. I hope you will acknowledge this fact and vote accordingly. In the words of Bush, "the terrorists are trying to divide America and break our will, and we must not allow them to succeed."
They aren't really nihilistic. Actually, not at all. I'm pretty sure they have a strong idea of morals, truth, and a purpose of life. It just doesn't line up with yours.

But maybe I'm misunderestimating them.
I don't like the GOP either, but that seems a tad extreem.

I like you.

It's either tonight or tomorrow, I think--I don't remember which is which on the schedule.

ah. ok thanks

Well, in this part of Florida at least, early voting is available to every registered voter who can get to the handful of early voting places that are open. My normal voting place is only a block away from my place, but I drove five minutes to get downtown to vote early. I think they'll open more eaerly voting stations as we get closer to Nov. 7, and then on election day, all the regular places will be open.

It sounds like a pretty good plan to make sure that voting is available to everyone. The only real downside I can see is that it might be a tad easier to fraudulently vote twice or even vote in a rightful voter's place since they have the extra job of making sure that early voters are taken off the rosters at their normal polling places. I have to hope and expect that Florida is now more careful than most places at ensuring everything is so above board that there wont even be suspicion of fraud though.

It seems some of the Democrats who are likely to win are pretty conservative, on a few issues they aren't much different from republicans. :(

Still, better then the GOP keeping control so hopefully my vote will accurate. We use the punchcards and I can assure you that my voting card will NOT have any hanging chads.

I don't like the GOP either, but that seems a tad extreem.

While your post is most amusing, to seriously compare the GOP to a terrorist organization is, at the very best, extremely misguided. Unfortunately, the highly partisan climate in the US at this time allows for the tossing of such mud with impunity -- many people are unashamed to make such comments nowadays. Nonetheless, we must persevere to unify our country instead of dividing it even further by such comments. We are faced with challenges that may very well be insurmountable without laying aside party differences for the common good, and such remarks do not help bridge the gaping chasm between liberal and conservative Americans and may lead to America falling into an abyss marked by terrorist attacks, falling morals, and a crumbling economy. Remember what Bush said in his acceptance speech -- now, more than ever, it is a crucial message.

To make this nation stronger and better I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust. A new term is a new opportunity to reach out to the whole nation. We have one country, one Constitution and one future that binds us. And when we come together and work together, there is no limit to the greatness of America.

I hate to take someone's post off topic....but it's Nazz and I doubt he'll mind on this point, so here we go.


While your post is most amusing, to seriously compare the GOP to a terrorist organization is, at the very best, extremely misguided.

You used the word "amusing" and "serious" in the same sentence. Surely you realize that most of the time people are going for one or the other, not both.


Unfortunately, the highly partisan climate in the US at this time allows for the tossing of such mud with impunity -- many people are unashamed to make such comments nowadays.

No, the 1st amendment allows for that. To take away my ability to talk as harshly as i want about the opposition's policies, viewpoints and beliefs strips me of my fundamental right as an american and throws us right back into the days of the Sedition Acts.


Nonetheless, we must persevere to unify our country instead of dividing it even further by such comments.

To criticize my government and to demand that the political process be turned over to those I deem more competant for the role is the fundamental essence of patriotism. Those who would say "we should be unified" betray democracy, betray free speech, and betray the very foundation of this country which was BUILT on constant, unyielding, unwaivering questioning of the authorities that govern us.

We are faced with challenges that may very well be insurmountable without aying aside party differences for the common good

And who decides what is "common good"? I do not think tax breaks for the rich are for the common good, I do not think a wall on our border is for the common good, I do not think the torture of suspects (hell, the torture of ANYONE) is for the common good, thus i will oppose the administration that attempts to implement such policies I think are fundamentally AGAINST the common good. I agree we must all work towards the common good, your argument fails when you presuppose that what YOU think is best for the common good and what I think is best for the common good are the same. And as long as I am of the opinion that the policies of those in power are in fact AGAINST the common good, I will continue to vocalize my displeasure of them and attempt to have them removed from power.

and such remarks do not help bridge the gaping chasm between liberal and conservative Americans

No, what would bridge the gab between them is a government in power working towards that and not running roughshod over the elected representatives of nearly half this country. However as the current administration has shown no willingness to actually work with "the opposition", I of the opposition show no willingness to support it.

and may lead to America falling into an abyss marked by terrorist attacks

And how we deal with those terrorist attacks in the best way is once again one of those subjective things. Don't assume that because YOU (or substitute the GOP) have an opinion on the best way to go about fixing it that the rest of us are supposed to fall in lockstep "for the good of the country". I have my own beliefs as to what would best solve the problem of international terrorism and will continue to support those I feel will address that problem in a way most consistant with those beliefs, and I will not simply rally around a standard I don't believe is best simply for "the greater good" as I feel that in doing so we would be going in the other direction.

falling morals

Everything I said about subjectivity goes double for morality.

and a crumbling economy.

Ditto on fixing the economy.

Remember what Bush said in his acceptance speech -- now, more than ever, it is a crucial message.

By a man who called himself "a uniter not a divider" then proceeded to run the country like anything else but. I have no trust in the words of this man, and have no belief is is best for this country.

Nope--it's the full, electronic "trust us" bullshit.

At least the Nelson/Harris race is too far apart to steal.I'm assumming you didn't cast a vote for Harris. I'll wait 'til Tuesday. In this little town, not going to be much crowding. Unfortunately, I live in a red state.

Here's a little advice before you go: Don't vote for any incumbents.

So it's you who made me go all the way to the top of the parking garage to find a spot, huh? :upyours: :D

It's done, my vote cast into the ether where hopefully, it will be recorded accurately. Since I have to vote on those fucking electronic machines, I have no real security on that, but I did get the little "I voted" sticker, so I guess it's not a total wash.
What? No barricades to prevent Democrats from voting? That's unthinkable! Especially in Florida. Surely something happened that should have prevented you from voting a Yellow Dog ticket?

Here's a little advice before you go: Don't vote for any incumbents.

That is about as intelligent as voting for only incumbents.

That is about as intelligent as voting for only incumbents.

Depends entirely upon who the incumbants are and who they are running against I think.:p

It sounds like a pretty good plan to make sure that voting is available to everyone. The only real downside I can see is that it might be a tad easier to fraudulently vote twice or even vote in a rightful voter's place since they have the extra job of making sure that early voters are taken off the rosters at their normal polling places. I have to hope and expect that Florida is now more careful than most places at ensuring everything is so above board that there wont even be suspicion of fraud though.

I like it for precisely that reason. They protect against multiple voting by limiting the voting places and by taking voters out of the database once they've voted. I got a receipt that showed when and where I voted--not a paper trail of my votes, precisely, but something.

I like it for precisely that reason. They protect against multiple voting by limiting the voting places and by taking voters out of the database once they've voted. I got a receipt that showed when and where I voted--not a paper trail of my votes, precisely, but something.


Its a start. Secret ballots and transparently fair elections are a bit at odds with one another. A paper trail of votes to a given voter is worrisome because you no longer have a secret ballot. That's nearly the choice they need to make once they insist on eletronic voting. Here I get a receipt telling me what votes I made. I assume that this is the ONLY thing which connects me to the votes I made but I cant be sure really. It makes me feel better to have my actual vote confirmed on paper, but it concerns me how closely this approaches a non-secret ballot. I destroyed my reciept after getting it but I can clearly see how this receipt could come to be used to check if I had voted for the "proper" candidates and referenda in slightly different situations.

What? No barricades to prevent Democrats from voting? That's unthinkable! Especially in Florida. Surely something happened that should have prevented you from voting a Yellow Dog ticket?
Who needs barricades when you have Diebold? Remember, it's not who gets the most votes who has the power--it's who counts the votes.

Who needs barricades when you have Diebold? Remember, it's not who gets the most votes who has the power--it's who counts the votes.

Nah, the Diebold Machines are safe.

Nah, the Diebold Machines are safe.

Well, it's not like I expect them to transform into metal beetles and tear my head off. I do have doubts about their reliability, however. More precisely, I have concerns about the fact that there's no alternative method of checking that they're functioning properly--there's no way to audit them. At least with paper backups, you can check the paper versus the machine totals if there's a question, and that's what I'm in favor of. Machines will fail--that's inevitable. They just need to fail well, by which I mean there has to be a fail-safe. Paper trails are the necessary backup.

Which party are you voting for?

Well, it's not like I expect them to transform into metal beetles and tear my head off.

I'm definitely for safeguards against this happening. We should all be able to feel safe about this. Im certainly for any party with an anti anthropophogous metal beetle platform.;)

voting? in florida? isn't that a bit of a lost cause these days?

voting? in florida? isn't that a bit of a lost cause these days?
Heh! :)

Anyway, hope you vote(d) Dean - the Socialist Screamer!

I'm definitely for safeguards against this happening. We should all be able to feel safe about this. Im certainly for any party with an anti anthropophogous metal beetle platform.;)

Bipartisanship!!!!!!!!! :D