NationStates Jolt Archive


Work sux!

Romanar
23-10-2006, 16:38
It looks like NS is now blocked at work! That sux!
Ifreann
23-10-2006, 16:40
It looks like NS is now blocked at work! That sux!

This is clearly some kind of conspiracy against NSers everywhere.
Pure Metal
23-10-2006, 16:43
i'm technically the "IT manager" at work (its a small organisation so its not like a big job, or my main job, or anything... i'm just better with computers than anyone else :p), so i keep NS nicely un-blocked hehe :)

plus i got me own office so i can post with impunity :D
Smunkeeville
23-10-2006, 16:56
shouldn't you be working at work?

*smacks herself for being on NSG instead of working*

it's tough to be my own boss.
Pure Metal
23-10-2006, 16:59
shouldn't you be working at work?

*smacks herself for being on NSG instead of working*

it's tough to be my own boss.

i guess as long as you get your work done (on time) then it doesn't really matter exactly how you allocate your time at work :)

today i've been quite productive: i have all-but finished one report, done the basics of another, and added some new features to things as well as updating a website and other stuff. and made time to post on NS... woo! :p
Romanar
23-10-2006, 17:00
shouldn't you be working at work?


Most days, I have quite a bit of free time. Blocking websites doesn't make me any more productive. It just makes me grumpy.
Khadgar
23-10-2006, 17:03
It looks like NS is now blocked at work! That sux!

Work sucks even with NS, just less so.

Ye gods I wish I had my own office.
Romanar
23-10-2006, 17:04
i guess as long as you get your work done (on time) then it doesn't really matter exactly how you allocate your time at work :)



Exactly!!! On days when my workload is very heavy, I don't do much, if any posting or NS gameplaying. My work is a priority (if only because my bosses priorities are wrong ;) ), but I usually have slack time.
Romanar
23-10-2006, 17:05
Work sucks even with NS, just less so.

Ye gods I wish I had my own office.

Yeah, me too. :(
Smunkeeville
23-10-2006, 17:05
i guess as long as you get your work done (on time) then it doesn't really matter exactly how you allocate your time at work :)

ah, but when you are "on the clock" you are supposed to be working, they aren't paying you to check your email or post on forums....it's like I told my secretary last year "I don't pay you to play Spider Solitare"

it's stealing in a basic sense to be surfing the net when you are supposed to be working.
Pure Metal
23-10-2006, 17:06
Exactly!!! On days when my workload is very heavy, I don't do much, if any posting or NS gameplaying. My work is a priority (if only because my bosses priorities are wrong ;) ), but I usually have slack time.

yup, and often you'll find yourself waiting to have a meeting with someone, or you just need a chat or to run something by a colleague... and there's no point starting something new because you don't know if you'll be waiting 1 minute or 20.... so that's when i tend to post the most *nods*

either that or just when i need 5 minutes to give my head a break
Romanar
23-10-2006, 17:07
ah, but when you are "on the clock" you are supposed to be working, they aren't paying you to check your email or post on forums....it's like I told my secretary last year "I don't pay you to play Spider Solitare"

it's stealing in a basic sense to be surfing the net when you are supposed to be working.

Well, if my boss wants to put that way, I'll quit staying late just because I'm trying to get more done before I quit. I'll just wait until the next day.
Pure Metal
23-10-2006, 17:08
ah, but when you are "on the clock" you are supposed to be working, they aren't paying you to check your email or post on forums....it's like I told my secretary last year "I don't pay you to play Spider Solitare"

it's stealing in a basic sense to be surfing the net when you are supposed to be working.

yup, but i don't get paid per hour, or overtime. i get a minimum monthly salary and then top-ups per extra project-work or private work i bring into the business (which my bosses take a cut of of course)

i'll probably be working till 7 or 8 in the evening tonight, as with most days, though.

i much prefer this way of working as it gives me more freedom to organise my time and the responsibility is on me to get what i need to get done, done. i get very demotivated when that responsibility and freedom is taken away
JuNii
23-10-2006, 17:22
It looks like NS is now blocked at work! That sux!check the URL... if http://forums.jolt.co.uk... is blocked, try http://forums2.jolt.co.uk...

or vice versa.

shouldn't you be working at work?

*smacks herself for being on NSG instead of working*

it's tough to be my own boss.just as long as you don't write yourself up... or worse, you fire yourself... :p
Kanabia
23-10-2006, 17:24
I wish I had a job where I could procrastinate on NS.
Compulsive Depression
23-10-2006, 17:26
I wish I had a job where I could procrastinate on NS.

I'd quite like a job where I didn't have to to stay my current approximation of "sane".
I V Stalin
23-10-2006, 17:30
I wish I had a job where I could procrastinate on NS.
Yep, same here. As it is, I just sit around on my arse all day, posting on NS.*

*Please note this is not actually true, and I actually spend a healthy chunk of every day looking for jobs to apply for, and applying for them.
Romanar
23-10-2006, 17:31
check the URL... if http://forums.jolt.co.uk... is blocked, try http://forums2.jolt.co.uk...

or vice versa.



I can still get on Jolt (so far). It's the www.nationstates.net that's blocked.
Smunkeeville
23-10-2006, 17:35
yup, but i don't get paid per hour, or overtime. i get a minimum monthly salary and then top-ups per extra project-work or private work i bring into the business (which my bosses take a cut of of course)

i'll probably be working till 7 or 8 in the evening tonight, as with most days, though.

i much prefer this way of working as it gives me more freedom to organise my time and the responsibility is on me to get what i need to get done, done. i get very demotivated when that responsibility and freedom is taken away

I don't know then.......I am paid billable hours, so I don't NS or IM, or email while "on the clock" because it's like $40 an hour that I am charging people, I try to focus strictly on their stuff. I pay my secretary by the hour, so if she is slacking off when I have a ton of stuff for her to do I tend to get pissed. Which is why I am hiring my 5 year old to be my secretary this tax season, she will do her work and clock out and play after, she will get work done in 30 minutes that would take my former secretary 4 hours, she will get $15 an hour where my former secretary got $9, what can I say? I am willing to pay more for someone who does their job.

LOL
Allers
23-10-2006, 17:41
Arbeids mach frei, sucks...
Nadkor
23-10-2006, 19:36
it's stealing in a basic sense to be surfing the net when you are supposed to be working.

I'm sorted in that regard...I don't have a job description, so I get paid pretty much just to be there.

So using the net/playing solitaire on one of the computers in work isn't outside of what I'm being paid to do.

Then again, we (including the nominal manager) do spend an inordinate amount of time in work on Fridays and Saturdays getting drunk....so not working isn't really a big problem. As long as what needs to be done is done on time.
Romanar
23-10-2006, 19:54
I don't know then.......I am paid billable hours, so I don't NS or IM, or email while "on the clock" because it's like $40 an hour that I am charging people, I try to focus strictly on their stuff. I pay my secretary by the hour, so if she is slacking off when I have a ton of stuff for her to do I tend to get pissed. Which is why I am hiring my 5 year old to be my secretary this tax season, she will do her work and clock out and play after, she will get work done in 30 minutes that would take my former secretary 4 hours, she will get $15 an hour where my former secretary got $9, what can I say? I am willing to pay more for someone who does their job.

LOL

If your former secretary was slacking off when you had a ton of stuff for her to do you had every right to be pissed. However, if she had slack time anyway, it makes little difference whether she's surfing the web, reading a book, or drinking coffee.

To me, the important thing is whether the job gets done properly, not whether or not the employee is websurfing (or even gameplaying).
Hydesland
23-10-2006, 20:05
www.blahbleh.com/science

t3h pr0xifier :D
Morganatron
23-10-2006, 20:13
Fortunately, I can browse the forum while working and listen to NPR. The boss is out of the office two days a week.

He knows all about our internet activities, and as long as it doesn't interfere with deadlines and we don't surf while on billable, he doesn't mind.
Ice Hockey Players
23-10-2006, 20:14
I am here at work and pretty much spend my days doing nothing...so I come here. When it's working, anyway. I am paid on salary and my job is to answer technical calls and do stuff, so when there's no stuff to do, I come here. Plain and simple.
Pure Metal
23-10-2006, 20:26
If your former secretary was slacking off when you had a ton of stuff for her to do you had every right to be pissed. However, if she had slack time anyway, it makes little difference whether she's surfing the web, reading a book, or drinking coffee.

To me, the important thing is whether the job gets done properly, not whether or not the employee is websurfing (or even gameplaying).

i agree. slack time = bad management (or too narrow a job description/too few responsibilities)
Kryozerkia
23-10-2006, 20:30
It looks like NS is now blocked at work! That sux!
It's a hint: maybe your boss wants you to actually do your job! What a horrible thought! Having to actually EARN your money! :D
Romanar
23-10-2006, 20:43
It's a hint: maybe your boss wants you to actually do your job! What a horrible thought! Having to actually EARN your money! :D

I do do my job. My boss has never had any complaint about my work performance. I doubt that my immediate supervisor had anything to do with the webblock. It was probably the action of some dictatorial sysadmin who knows nothing of my workload or whether I'm doing my job, but just happened to notice the NS activity on the logs.
Smunkeeville
23-10-2006, 20:52
If your former secretary was slacking off when you had a ton of stuff for her to do you had every right to be pissed. However, if she had slack time anyway, it makes little difference whether she's surfing the web, reading a book, or drinking coffee.

To me, the important thing is whether the job gets done properly, not whether or not the employee is websurfing (or even gameplaying).

my theory is there is always something work related that you could be doing instead of surfing the net.
Khadgar
23-10-2006, 20:58
my theory is there is always something work related that you could be doing instead of surfing the net.

Not really, we didn't used to have the net here, we played solitaire. Actually I played a crappy chess program where the computer would occasionally cheat, or randomize the board (as in multiple kings), bug out and turn the peices odd colors, put them in impossible positions (both bishops on the same color).

Got fairly decent at it. I also played over 1000 games of Freecell, in order. 80% win rate.
Morganatron
23-10-2006, 20:59
Heh heh, we also get free webtime during our lunch hour :D
Snafturi
23-10-2006, 21:00
ah, but when you are "on the clock" you are supposed to be working, they aren't paying you to check your email or post on forums....it's like I told my secretary last year "I don't pay you to play Spider Solitare"

it's stealing in a basic sense to be surfing the net when you are supposed to be working.

Not if you get paid salary and your boss condones your internet behavior. No vid and no sites of questionable nature (oh, and no flash games), I actually showed him nationstates and he might be starting a country soon. He thinks it's great.
Pure Metal
23-10-2006, 22:11
my theory is there is always something work related that you could be doing instead of surfing the net.

ah but the question is whether, should you have some "slack time", its worth starting on 'something work related' or not. there's always things to do, yes, but (for me at least) my projects tend to take days or weeks to complete, so doing a short 10 minutes while i'm waiting for a decision or a meeting, or whatever, while on my current project, won't actually achieve anything (other than to confuse me and probably demotivate me... thinking about all the other stuff i got to do rather than just focusing on what i'm doing (or the alternative of pissing around on the net in the down time) will just serve a negative purpose)


everybody's different, every job is different, and everybody works differently... so while there pretty much always is something you could be doing (rather than slacking off), slacking off can actually be the most sensible course of action in some cases :)
Philosopy
23-10-2006, 22:14
Got fairly decent at it. I also played over 1000 games of Freecell, in order. 80% win rate.

Woo! Freecell!

I have an 80% success rate too. :p
Khadgar
23-10-2006, 22:18
Woo! Freecell!

I have an 80% success rate too. :p

I was better than 90% for the first couple hundred games, after a while I stopped caring.
Bitchkitten
23-10-2006, 22:21
Damned public library here blocked NS. I think they did it deliberately to piss me off. The Head librarian and I have had a few run ins. She decided I wasn't allowed to use the non-filtered computer anymore. Said it was for student reasearch only. So I put up with the filter, but it filtered out words like "adult" and "death." Now they totally block NS. I know she did it because I spend all my time there. At least I now have the internet at home again. It sucked having an one hour time limit.
Utracia
23-10-2006, 22:25
Damned public library here blocked NS. I think they did it deliberately to piss me off. The Head librarian and I have had a few run ins. She decided I wasn't allowed to use the non-filtered computer anymore. Said it was for student reasearch only. So I put up with the filter, but it filtered out words like "adult" and "death." Now they totally block NS. I know she did it because I spend all my time there. At least I now have the internet at home again. It sucked having an one hour time limit.

Your library computer has a filter?! :eek:
I V Stalin
23-10-2006, 22:30
Woo! Freecell!

I have an 80% success rate too. :p
I'm crap at that.

I can complete Minesweeper on Expert in 80 seconds, though. :D
Philosopy
23-10-2006, 22:32
I'm crap at that.

I can complete Minesweeper on Expert in 80 seconds, though. :D

That's quite impressive. I can just about manage the beginner level - any more than that and I tend to make a stupid mistake whenever I get close to finishing. :p
I V Stalin
23-10-2006, 22:39
That's quite impressive. I can just about manage the beginner level - any more than that and I tend to make a stupid mistake whenever I get close to finishing. :p
I'm not too good at beginner or intermediate. I try to do them as quickly as possible, and invariably do something remarkably dumb.
Hakeka
23-10-2006, 22:48
It looks like NS is now blocked at work! That sux!
Well, here's some food for thought:
The boss makes so much more than you that you wonder, "what does s/he know"?
The answer is: They don't. All they know is that they don't deserve it any more than you do.
To quote Bob Fenster from "The Duh Awards", you can think of your boss as the coach of a last-place baseball team. He can no longer hit the long ball, if he ever could. He can no longer strike anyone out, if he ever could. He couldn't run around the bases if death were on his heels, which it probably is. He has only one skill left: He gets to call the shots.

There. Feeling better now? :p
Katganistan
23-10-2006, 23:04
It looks like NS is now blocked at work! That sux!

Aren't you supposed to be, I don't know, working at work and not using company resources/time to play here?

Just sayin'.
Bitchkitten
23-10-2006, 23:05
Your library computer has a filter?! :eek:

State law mandates all public computers have a filter to prevent kiddies from visiting adult sites.
Andaluciae
23-10-2006, 23:06
One of my twisted, evil coworkers has blocked facebook.
Philosopy
23-10-2006, 23:07
Aren't you supposed to be, I don't know, working at work and not using company resources/time to play here?

Just sayin'.

Play? Play?

We, the good people of General, do not play, madam! We discuss issues of great national and international importance! Our deliberations are observed by the highest powers in the land, who act upon our advice and implement our policy ideas!

...at least, that's what I was told...
Katganistan
23-10-2006, 23:10
State law mandates all public computers have a filter to prevent kiddies from visiting adult sites.

Oy. Your state= not one I want to do research from.

SEARCH: BREAST CANCER
Yeah, I can see lots of kids finding nothing on that.
Utracia
23-10-2006, 23:38
State law mandates all public computers have a filter to prevent kiddies from visiting adult sites.

Ouch. Sounds like a way to also prevent adults from looking at sites that people may disapprove of. I can see how some may see NS as a threat to young minds though. They might actually learn something here!
Andaluciae
23-10-2006, 23:48
Soooooooooooooo...

Today at work, I arrived and discovered that our devious IT guy has blocked facebook from all the computer in the building, except for his. Which is tolerable, because he didn't bother NS, so I'm safe there.

Of course, the day got really bad at about 8:20, when a guy who was clearly paranoid schizophrenic showed up. His case was somewhat more mild than the ones you see in videos, but it was definitely clear. He had clear delusions of grandeur (he believed he was in personal contact with God, Tony Blair, George Bush and "The Inspector General"). He proclaimed that he had a plan to make the lives of handicapped people better by sending them to the moon so they could find jobs, and he told us that the International Space Station was equipped with a massive arsenal of nuclear rockets.

Alright, so, after that, he went somewhere for a few minutes, then he returned, and told us that he had a plan to end world poverty with old railroad ties and waste bricks. He said he had received 70 Million dollars from Bill Gates to carry out his program. And, that the CIA was keeping an eye on him at all times. He also made the claim that he was in a fraternity, and his fraternity brothers had walked on the moon.

So, we finally get him to saunter off again, he returns and tells us that he wants to talk to John Glenn about his spaceship. Awesome, so we send him up to the Senators scheduler, who we know will rebuff him. Which she does. Until this point, the dude had been fairly calm, albeit totally off of his rocker.

After being rebuffed he comes down screaming that he was extremely angry, that he had been treated rudely, and that he was going to report us to the "Inspector General." I get up from the front desk and head to the nearest office with a closing door, ---s' office. I walk in, shut the door, and give her the number for the Campus Police non-emergency line. She calls them, and gives them his description. By the time I leave the room, the situation had finally defused itself, and he was gone. Campus police were looking for the guy around campus, but I don't know if they ever found him.

It was a two hour ordeal, and it made it so I accomplished nothing at work. This is the fourth total nutter I've had to deal with at this job, and it's always disconcerting, and really tiring.
I V Stalin
23-10-2006, 23:55
Play? Play?

We, the good people of General, do not play, madam! We discuss issues of great national and international importance! Our deliberations are observed by the highest powers in the land, who act upon our advice and implement our policy ideas!

...at least, that's what I was told...

Heh, n00b! :p ;)
Pure Metal
24-10-2006, 10:19
Soooooooooooooo...

Today at work, I arrived and discovered that our devious IT guy has blocked facebook from all the computer in the building, except for his. Which is tolerable, because he didn't bother NS, so I'm safe there.

Of course, the day got really bad at about 8:20, when a guy who was clearly paranoid schizophrenic showed up. His case was somewhat more mild than the ones you see in videos, but it was definitely clear. He had clear delusions of grandeur (he believed he was in personal contact with God, Tony Blair, George Bush and "The Inspector General"). He proclaimed that he had a plan to make the lives of handicapped people better by sending them to the moon so they could find jobs, and he told us that the International Space Station was equipped with a massive arsenal of nuclear rockets.

Alright, so, after that, he went somewhere for a few minutes, then he returned, and told us that he had a plan to end world poverty with old railroad ties and waste bricks. He said he had received 70 Million dollars from Bill Gates to carry out his program. And, that the CIA was keeping an eye on him at all times. He also made the claim that he was in a fraternity, and his fraternity brothers had walked on the moon.

So, we finally get him to saunter off again, he returns and tells us that he wants to talk to John Glenn about his spaceship. Awesome, so we send him up to the Senators scheduler, who we know will rebuff him. Which she does. Until this point, the dude had been fairly calm, albeit totally off of his rocker.

After being rebuffed he comes down screaming that he was extremely angry, that he had been treated rudely, and that he was going to report us to the "Inspector General." I get up from the front desk and head to the nearest office with a closing door, ---s' office. I walk in, shut the door, and give her the number for the Campus Police non-emergency line. She calls them, and gives them his description. By the time I leave the room, the situation had finally defused itself, and he was gone. Campus police were looking for the guy around campus, but I don't know if they ever found him.

It was a two hour ordeal, and it made it so I accomplished nothing at work. This is the fourth total nutter I've had to deal with at this job, and it's always disconcerting, and really tiring.

what on earth is your job??
"professional nutjob greeter"? :p