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One of the many examples of why the anti-immigrant FrP is the biggest party here...


Criminal youths are in the process of destroying the social environment in Oslo, concludes the Oslo City Court. Small girls are raped and robbed. Schoolchildren’s are threatened with death, robbed and assaulted.

The Stovner-police is now uncovering another violent gang in the Grorudvalley on the outskirts of Oslo. Four boys were robbed Sunday night, February 5. Eight youths, ranging from 15 to 18 years old, were arrested, and are now charged with the robberies. All suspects are of foreign origin.

One of the suspects, a Somalian who turned 17 years old last week, appeared in court and was sent to jail in order to protect society. Only four days after being apprehended he was due to stand trial in another robbery case. To avoid letting the youth loose among his peers, he was sent directly to a jail in Oslo to serve time for several robberies, a rape, and assisting another rape.

VERY BRUTAL RAPE

The 17 year old Somalian has several serious crimes on his conscience, but the worst is probably the rape of a young girl at Hoybraaten (Oslo suburb) one year ago. Oslo Court states that the rape was unusually brutal, and lasted for several hours. The young girl was threatened with a knife and beaten. The Somalian choked the girl so brutally and for so long, that the medical doctor who afterwards treated the girl, said that she could have died. Her voice has changed. She was raped without a condom in a very humiliating way. The girl is now suffering from severe psychological problems in the aftermath of the attack.

The Youth was sentenced to four and half years in prison, where three years was made conditionally, which means he will serve only one and a half years. The sentence also included another rape, where his Norwegian-Moroccan friend raped a 13 year old girl, whilst the Somalian helped to threaten her and keep guard. She was also brutally treated, and is experiencing serious problems after the experience.

The Court states that the girl was harassed by the family of the Norwegian-Moroccan and his friends. It went so far that the girl was angry at her own mother for giving the name of the rapists to the police. The girl wanted to pay the offenders to make them leave her alone. Her psychological condition became so bad she had to be forcibly sent to a psychological institution. Her schooling is destroyed.

SENTENCED AGAIN

The Norwegian-Moroccan was on trip with city social services when he raped another 13 year old girl in the toilet at a major Oslo Cinema. Also this girl was raped in a very humiliating manner, and is suffering from serious problems in the aftermath.

The Norwegian-Moroccan was sentenced to the same punishment as his Somalian friend. The Court showed leniency because the youths were young, and that both have had a difficult childhood with domestic violence. Recently, both of them appeared again in the Oslo court February this year. This time as well, the Norwegian-Moroccan told the court about difficulties growing up, and added that he had attended for three years a quranic-scool in Morocco where he was frequently beaten. This case primarily involved the robbery of a young girl, where the Norwegian-Moroccan and three others beat the girl to the ground and robbed her of her purse and her cell phone. In addition, the Norwegian-Moroccan participated when the Somalian and some others robbed three young men in Strommen, outside Oslo, last summer.

”They got into the car and threatened us. One of them laid his arm around my neck and squeezed. We saw no other opportunity other than to get out of the car and run away. They took off with the car, my money and all my valuables”, says Ole-Even Hebbenes (19). The boys called police, but the car was not found until a day later.

“When we met them in court, the shook our hands and seemed really nice. Weird. But, I am not going to be bothered to think about it anymore. I just want to forget about it”, says Nebbenes.

In the sentence, Oslo Court, writes that the consequences from children-robberies are very serious both for the individual victim and for society, and particularly for the younger generation who cannot move freely in public without fear of being exposed to humiliating treatment.


http://oslopuls.no/nyheter/article1273835.ece

Edit: More ex: At least (Because some are unidentified and foreigners are more likely to be unidentified) 2/3 of the rapes in Oslo were done by people of non-western ethnic origin in 2001. No such statistics again after public reaction.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article190268.ece

That's funny. :D

Your title says: Immigrant Youths are in the process of destroying the social enviroment in Oslo.

The opening line of the article says: Criminal youths are in the process of destroying the social enviroment in Oslo.

Nice try though.

That's funny. :D

Your title says: Immigrant Youths are in the process of destroying the social enviroment in Oslo.

The opening line of the article says: Criminal youths are in the process of destroying the social enviroment in Oslo.

Nice try though.

And you have missed that all criminals that are refferred are of foreign origin?

The article does not specify that it is immigrant youths that are in the process of destroying the social environment. It says criminal youths, of any nationality. Nice try, though.

And you have missed that all criminals that are refferred are of foreign origin?

Does that mean that all people of foreign origin are criminal?

And you have missed that all criminals that are refferred are of foreign origin?

All two of them? No, we didn't miss that. But you are misattributing your own statement to the Oslo City Court. The court did not say "immigrant youths"; it said "criminal youths". You're the one saying "immigrant youths".

That being said, the punishment in these cases is horrid. Given the nature of these crimes, the guilty should have received much longer sentences. A year and a half for rape does not seem even remotely adequate to me.

That's funny. :D

Your title says: Immigrant Youths are in the process of destroying the social enviroment in Oslo.

The opening line of the article says: Criminal youths are in the process of destroying the social enviroment in Oslo.

Nice try though.
This is Ny Nordland's thread... why should anyone be surprised at what they see here?

Fine. Okay.

Assume we agree with you.

The Somalis are destroying Norway.

Now what the hell do you want us to do about it?

Or is this just another pointless chance for you to be unleash your racist flames?

*boycotts thread*

And you have missed that all criminals that are refferred are of foreign origin?
It says that one gang was.

Are you saying that one gang is singlehandly tearing Oslo's fragile social enviroment apart?

Or are you assuming then that all crime in Oslo is committed by foreigners? Because if the latter is true, Oslo must have been Utopia prior to immigration...

All two of them? No, we didn't miss that. But you are misattributing your own statement to the Oslo City Court. The court did not say "immigrant youths"; it said "criminal youths". You're the one saying "immigrant youths".

And you think it's a coincidence that all examples refer to foreign criminals after such a statement by court?

And you think it's a coincidence that all examples refer to foreign criminals after such a statement by court?

I don't give a good fuck if it's a coincidence or not. You're misattributing statements. The court did NOT say what you wish they said, so stop going around saying they did. They said "criminal youths", nothing else. If you want to make a thread that was titled "Racist Ny Nordland: Immigrant Youths Are In The Process of Destroying the Social Env.", fine. But "Oslo City Court" did not at all say what your thread title says they did. You are misrepresenting your own racist thoughts as their statements. Stop doing that.

I don't give a good fuck if it's a coincidence or not. You're misattributing statements. The court did NOT say what you wish they said, so stop going around saying they did. They said "criminal youths", nothing else. If you want to make a thread that was titled "Racist Ny Nordland: Immigrant Youths Are In The Process of Destroying the Social Env.", fine. But "Oslo City Court" did not at all say what your thread title says they did. You are misrepresenting your own racist thoughts as their statements. Stop doing that.

I guess it's my racist thoughts again when most rapes in Oslo are done by the small immigrant minority... :rolleyes:

Welcome to the future of Western civilisation, people. Enjoy your stay.

I guess it's my racist thoughts again when most rapes in Oslo are done by the small immigrant minority... :rolleyes:

Your dodging his argument, you misattributed the statement.

Your dodging his argument, you misattributed the statement.

We know that most rapes were done by immigrants in 2001. There is no such evidence that this trend has changed by now. And then there is this news story which reports findings of City Court, followed by couple examples of crimes all done by people of foreign origin. Too much of coincidences, I say.

You know, honestly, after reading this kind of shit, if the Nazis came back to Europe tomorrow, I wouldn't really be that disappointed or worried. I fear the Nazis less than these immigrant rapist freaks.

We know that most rapes were done by immigrants in 2001. There is no such evidence that this trend has changed by now. And then there is this news story which reports findings of City Court, followed by couple examples of crimes all done by people of foreign origin. Too much of coincidences, I say.

ok, but does that mean that the entire social environment is being destroyed by immigrants?

We know that most rapes were done by immigrants in 2001. There is no such evidence that this trend has changed by now. And then there is this news story which reports findings of City Court, followed by couple examples of crimes all done by people of foreign origin. Too much of coincidences, I say.

It doesn't matter, you're making up things that people say. If I changed words that you said when I quoted you here, I'd be deleted. Same principle. Admit that you lied.

You know, honestly, after reading this kind of shit, if the Nazis came back to Europe tomorrow, I wouldn't really be that disappointed or worried. I fear the Nazis less than these immigrant rapist freaks.

I would prefer to have two rapists in Norway than to have the entire european continent overtaken by genocidal maniacs.

You know, honestly, after reading this kind of shit, if the Nazis came back to Europe tomorrow, I wouldn't really be that disappointed or worried. I fear the Nazis less than these immigrant rapist freaks.

That's because you wouldn't have to live in Europe.

ok, but does that mean that the entire social environment is being destroyed by immigrants?

Lets go from the rape example:


Women on guard
A summer marked by active rapists has made Oslo women uneasy, but Justice Minister Knut Storberget has played down police advice to take extra precautions.

We have to be realistic, many rapes have made summer Oslo unsafe," said Brit Opjordsmoen, leader of the DIXI resource center for rape victims.

"When we know rapists are loose in Oslo we must listen to what police say. They are right to advise women not to walk home alone after a night on the town," Opjordsmoen said.

Opjordsmoen finds it highly remarkable that Justice Minister Storberget contradicts police and advises women not to adjust their habits.

"Ideally we can all agree that girls should be able to walk freely everywhere without taking precautions but we must be realistic, society is not like this. Many girls are naive and we must be aware that many things can happen and we should take care, several rape attacks in a short time is unusual," Opjordsmoen said.

Opjordsmoen would like to see discount evening taxi fares for women, and meanwhile has plenty of advice for girls having a night out.

"Women should keep an eye on themselves and each other, walk home together or take a taxi, and avoid pirate taxis by all means. Toilets in shady neighborhoods should be avoided if alone and everyone should keep an eye on their drink so that no one can put something in it," Opjordsmoen said.

The DIXI center, which is financed by state and city funds, has figures that indicate that 85 percent of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows. The unusual thing about the Oslo rapes is that they are attacks by strangers on women returning from an evening out.

The rape center at Oslo's downtown emergency ward also notes a significant rise in the number of rapes and rape assaults by strangers, with rates twice as high as last summer.

Opjordsmoen notes that the numbers are likely higher than police believe, and knows personally of two recent assault rapes that have not been reported to police.

The DIXI center has had more than twice as many cases this July compared to last year, with most concerning young women between the ages of 15-25.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1400041.ece

Who gives a flying fuck where they were from? You prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. Their background and religion doesn't make what they did any more or less of a crime.

I rape and beat women.

Horrible. Why are all Norwegians rapists and wife-beaters....?

That's because you wouldn't have to live in Europe.

I'd MOVE to Europe.

Who gives a flying fuck where they were from? You prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. Their background and religion doesn't make what they did any more or less of a crime.

It's not PC to prosecute immigrants and muslims.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1394245.ece

Bones won't characterize Oslo as unsafe, but she recommends women walk in the company of at least one other at night.

I consider that to be standard protocol for any major city, apparently you think that Oslo is an exception when it comes to crime. I invite you to come to Detroit and walk around at 2am. Also look at the police sketch of the rapist, please.

Horrible. Why are all Norwegians rapists and wife-beaters....?

I explained why they are referring to immigrant youths by criminal youths.

I'd MOVE to Europe.

Hopefully they'd find out you had some sort of jewish background and put you in the reopened aushwitz

Lets go from the rape example:


http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1400041.ece

This has what to do with immigrants now?


And you still haven't addressed the fact that you tried to pass of your own beliefs as those of the Olso City Court.

One of the many examples of why the anti-immigrant FrP is the biggest party here...

http://oslopuls.no/nyheter/article1273835.ece

Edit: More ex: At least (Because some are unidentified and foreigners are more likely to be unidentified) 2/3 of the rapes in Oslo were done by people of non-western ethnic origin in 2001. No such statistics again after public reaction.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article190268.ece
Couldn't read the first one. :eek:

And the 2nd one is old news (First published: 05 Sep 2001). Got anything more current?

I'd MOVE to Europe.

You'd move to a nazi Europe?


You crazy.

Hopefully they'd find out you had some sort of jewish background and put you in the reopened aushwitz

Nope. No Jews anywhere. We've been Christian as long back as... really long ago. In the 1700s, some ancestor of my family died building a church.

You'd move to a nazi Europe?


You crazy.

It'd be the safest place in the world. My dad said that back then, you could leave your bike on the side of the road for a year, and nobody would touch it. Now THAT'S law and order.

It's not PC to prosecute immigrants and muslims.

Probably because so many people make an issue of it. Look at that article. What the blue bloody fuck is a norwegian-moroccan? Was he born on the border between Norway and Morocco? *looks for a globe* Has there been some continental drift going on that I don't know about?

I explained why they are referring to immigrant youths by criminal youths.

You completely missed the point of the post didn't you?

It'd be the safest place in the world. My dad said that back then, you could leave your bike on the side of the road for a year, and nobody would touch it. Now THAT'S law and order.

So you'd be willing to aid and be an accessary to genocide, as long as the government that commits it eradicates crime?

You know, honestly, after reading this kind of shit, if the Nazis came back to Europe tomorrow, I wouldn't really be that disappointed or worried. I fear the Nazis less than these immigrant rapist freaks.
Immigrants rape a few people and you fear them more than a political entity that caused the deaths of tens of millions of people. Yup, you have your tin foil hat perfectly adjusted. :rolleyes:

So you'd be willing to aid and be an accessary to genocide, as long as the government that commits it eradicates crime?

Well, I'd ignore the genocide. And I'm assuming that the new Nazis will keep it all within their ascribed borders, whatever they may be.

And best case scenario, they're the modern Nazis, who accept all Caucasians, and not just Germanics.

It'd be the safest place in the world. My dad said that back then, you could leave your bike on the side of the road for a year, and nobody would touch it. Now THAT'S law and order.

Nazi Europe was continually bombed and destroyed pretty quickly, hardly the safest place in the world.

You completely missed the point of the post didn't you?

You completely missed you were giving an apple example to my orange example?

It'd be the safest place in the world. My dad said that back then, you could leave your bike on the side of the road for a year, and nobody would touch it. Now THAT'S law and order.

Your Dad must be quite old to have spent year in nazi Europe.

And somehow I can see the world being less than pleased about some silly person trying to take over Europe again, so there might be another one of those pesky world wars. Might lessen the safety level ever so slightly.

Immigrants rape a few people and you fear them more than a political entity that caused the deaths of tens of millions of people. Yup, you have your tin foil hat perfectly adjusted. :rolleyes:

Well, you're allowed to stand up to the Nazis. You're not allowed to stand up to muslims and immmigrants.

Also look at the police sketch of the rapist, please.

Clearly, all blond men must be expelled from Oslo at once. They're all potential rapists.

Your Dad must be quite old to have spent year in nazi Europe.

He probably heard it from my grandmother, they left when my dad was three.

Nazi Europe was continually bombed and destroyed pretty quickly, hardly the safest place in the world.

Pre-war, you m00b.

You completely missed you were giving an apple example to my orange example?

You misquote the article. You think that's fine.

I misquote you. You don't think that's fine.

Is that about right?

Well, you're allowed to stand up to the Nazis. You're not allowed to stand up to muslims and immmigrants.

Since when? I live in a 95% white British town, people bitch and moan about immingrants all the time then act like they're not allowed to do it.

Well, I'd ignore the genocide. And I'm assuming that the new Nazis will keep it all within their ascribed borders, whatever they may be.
keep dreaming, an expressed part of nazi doctrine is military expansion.

And best case scenario, they're the modern Nazis, who accept all Caucasians, and not just Germanics.

Wrong again, Nazi racial purification doctrine involves the elimination of all non-aryan races. Really anyone without blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin would be thrown in the death camps.

and correct me if i'm wrong but genocide is a crime, which negates your whole law & order argument in itself, you have order yes, tyrannical totalitarian order, but law? Hardly.

He probably heard it from my grandmother, they left when my dad was three.

Why did they leave if it was the safest place they could be?

Wow, this nazi crap is really de-railing the thread.

Well, you're allowed to stand up to the Nazis. You're not allowed to stand up to muslims and immmigrants.
The ones that stood up to Nazis were usually mowed down by machine gun.

The Jews were marched to death camps. Yeah, they were really tolerant those Nazis were. :rolleyes:

Pre-war, you m00b.

Yeah, that period never existed for very long did it?

You misquote the article. You think that's fine.

I misquote you. You don't think that's fine.

Is that about right?

That'd be fine if I had a history of raping and beating women.

It'd be the safest place in the world. My dad said that back then, you could leave your bike on the side of the road for a year, and nobody would touch it. Now THAT'S law and order.

That was true everywhere in the 1930s. Are you really that ignorant? People in England also left their bikes out and never locked their doors. Funnily enough, as you may recall, they were a democracy... and, before you bring it up, there have been black immigrants in England since the late sixteenth century.

Why did they leave if it was the safest place they could be?

Wow, this nazi crap is really de-railing the thread.

Fuck it. Those rails sucked anyway. :p :D

Wrong again, Nazi racial purification doctrine involves the elimination of all non-aryan races. Really anyone without blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin would be thrown in the death camps.

Despite the fact that Hitler had black hair? Right...

and correct me if i'm wrong but genocide is a crime, which negates your whole law & order argument in itself, you have order yes, tyrannical totalitarian order, but law? Hardly.

*breathes in*

Feh...

Wrong again, Nazi racial purification doctrine involves the elimination of all non-aryan races. Really anyone without blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin would be thrown in the death camps.

Patently incorrect. The Nazis ranked the so-called Aryan race as the highest of the white races, but it had no plans on exterminating other whites (save for the Slavs, which it believed had become racial enemies). What Nazi rule would mean is that the northern European countries would become even more blonde, probably.

That'd be fine if I had a history of raping and beating women.

Your ancestors were vikings. :D

Since when? I live in a 95% white British town, people bitch and moan about immingrants all the time then act like they're not allowed to do it.

Your town is an exception. I've always felt the British to be more resilient and brave that most other Europeans.

Anyway, can we get back to topic?

That was true everywhere in the 1930s. Are you really that ignorant? People in England also left their bikes out and never locked their doors. Funnily enough, as you may recall, they were a democracy... and, before you bring it up, there have been black immigrants in England since the late sixteenth century.

Yeah and even back then they caused problems. British tried to relocate them to Africa and Queen Elisabeth issued 2 orders for them to be not employed and taken off the country.

One of the many examples of why the anti-immigrant FrP is the biggest party here...Because they want to treat the symptom and not the cause?

Edit: More ex: At least (Because some are unidentified and foreigners are more likely to be unidentified) 2/3 of the rapes in Oslo were done by people of non-western ethnic origin in 2001. No such statistics again after public reaction.No, 2/3 of the people charged with rape are of non-western ethnic origin. Most of them aren't convicted, so there's no particular reason (from this article) to believe that they did it.

That'd be fine if I had a history of raping and beating women.

A: How do I know you don't? [Seriously]

B: Immigrants don't have a history of raping and beating women, as you attempt to allude to. People do. Whether they are immigrant or native, is immaterial.

You misquoted the article.

I misquoted you.

You refuse to admit what you did was wrong, yet you cry for blood when it is done to you. You are a hypocrite.

The ones that stood up to Nazis were usually mowed down by machine gun.

On a world level. The world stood up to the Nazis. They won't stand up to the muslims.

The Jews were marched to death camps. Yeah, they were really tolerant those Nazis were. :rolleyes:

Tolerance is for the weak.

Fuck it. Those rails sucked anyway. :p :D

True, they couldn't even withstand one nazi-ing. Hardly Godwin proof.

With reference to the OP.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/07/norwegian-authorities-still-covering.html

It really amazes me that we have idiots like this:

Unni Wikan, a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, in 2001 said that “Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes” because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor’s conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: “Norwegian women must realize that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”

True, they couldn't even withstand one nazi-ing. Hardly Godwin proof.

ANd they reeked of norwegian intolerance and moldy cheese danishes. *nod*

You completely missed you were giving an apple example to my orange example?

You quoted Olso City Court as saying something they did not. He quoted you as saying something you did not. It is EXACTLY the same, and any attempts by you to deny that only show your intellectual dishonesty.

Despite the fact that Hitler had black hair? Right...


Do you actually think someone in nazi germany could stand up and say
"wait a second! Der Fuhrer isn't an Aryan!" without being machine-gunned right there?

and I am assuming a successful fourth Reich regime that has had all the time and money to implement all the racial policies it wants. The third reich was never given a chance(thank god) to really kick the final solution into high-gear.

A: How do I know you don't? [Seriously]

B: Immigrants don't have a history of raping and beating women, as you attempt to allude to. People do. Whether they are immigrant or native, is immaterial.

You misquoted the article.

I misquoted you.

You refuse to admit what you did was wrong, yet you cry for blood when it is done to you. You are a hypocrite.

If you look at the OP again, immigrants do have a history of being hugely over represented at rape crimes.

As for your 1st question, I wont even dignify it with an answer.

On a world level. The world stood up to the Nazis. They won't stand up to the muslims.
The muslims don't appear to be annexing countries and overthrowing governments.



Tolerance is for the weak.

Tolerance is for the tolerant.

You quoted Olso City Court as saying something they did not. He quoted you as saying something you did not. It is EXACTLY the same, and any attempts by you to deny that only show your intellectual dishonesty.

Thank you! Someone else gets the point.

With reference to the OP.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/07/norwegian-authorities-still-covering.html

It really amazes me that we have idiots like this:

It's scary that someone that stupid can manage to become a professor of anything.

The muslims don't appear to be annexing countries and overthrowing governments.

They will be.

Tolerance is for the tolerant.

And the tolerant are weak. I tolerate nothing. Cultural conformation should be absolute.

On a world level. The world stood up to the Nazis. They won't stand up to the muslims.



Sorry but arn't we involved in two wars with them? Arn't they always being arrested for "plotting" one thing or another?

They will be.
Dude, can I borrow your crystal ball, I want to get some lottery numbers.


And the tolerant are weak. I tolerate nothing. Cultural conformation should be absolute.

Yes, how dare people be different.

Thank you! Someone else gets the point.

Of course I get the point. I'm the one who brought it up originally. :)

They will be.
baseless speculation and fortune-telling, pure and simple.


And the tolerant are weak. I tolerate nothing. Cultural conformation should be absolute.

Then leave the country, If you cannot accept democracy than move to an undemocratic nation, theres plenty to choose from.

Sorry but arn't we involved in two wars with them? Arn't they always being arrested for "plotting" one thing or another?

No, we're involved in two wars against "terrorism."

It's scary that someone that stupid can manage to become a professor of anything.

Guess which party she votes for.

Are these guys serious?!

I only can say:

DON'T FEED THE TROLL!

With reference to the OP.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/07/norwegian-authorities-still-covering.html

It really amazes me that we have idiots like this:

Yes that quote doesn't seem to get less disgusting the more I see it.

Then leave the country, If you cannot accept democracy than move to an undemocratic nation, theres plenty to choose from.

Now who's being intolerant?

Of course I get the point. I'm the one who brought it up originally. :)

I don't know what you mean

<.< >.>

:p

Now who's being intolerant?

You.

Yes, how dare people be different.

Yes, how dare they? I say that in total seriousness. If they come to the West, they should conform to our values. That includes NOT RAPING WOMEN WHO AREN'T WEARING TENTS AND BOWING TO YOU.

You.

And I'm allowed to be.

Now who's being intolerant?
That would be you, remember.
Guess which party she votes for.
I wouldn't know. Is there a moron party in Norway?

And I'm allowed to be.

Then, theoretically, so would Muslims.

Now who's being intolerant?

You. Seriously, diversity is a natural part of democracy, without it, democracy does not exist. Move to North Korea, they have great social conformity there.

Yes, how dare they? I say that in total seriousness. If they come to the West, they should conform to our values. That includes NOT RAPING WOMEN WHO AREN'T WEARING TENTS AND BOWING TO YOU.

Because 100% of people who can't trace their family line back to the founding of the country they happen to find themselves in rape women left right and centre. All the time. In fact, they have almost no time for anything else, other than wildly run around and rape women.



Oh wait, that's not even the tiniest bit true.

And I'm allowed to be.

But then you're not living up to your own standards.


And the tolerant are weak. I tolerate nothing. Cultural conformation should be absolute.

Western societies are tolerant. Mostly.

Then, theoretically, so would Muslims.
Quiet you. Your logic is confuzzling them. :)

Yeah and even back then they caused problems. British tried to relocate them to Africa and Queen Elisabeth issued 2 orders for them to be not employed and taken off the country.

As I recall, they tried to ship them off to Sierra Leone, yes. I'm glad you know your history. But then you automatically assume they were expelled because they were "causing problems". (Ironically, many white men at the time believed white women would find black men more virile, which caused a sense of moral panic; blacks were perceived as a threat to white men's manhood, and miscegenation as an abomination. Black people were victims of white perceptions and fears. Ironic how some white people haven't evolved since then...)

Then, theoretically, so would Muslims.

And that's why tolerance sucks. You have to tolerate crime.

And that's why tolerance sucks. You have to tolerate crime.

Pick one stance on this issue. Either you're for tolerance so we're all forced to tolerate your idiocy, or you're against tolerance and you should be punished for your idiocy. One or the other.

No, we're involved in two wars against "terrorism."

Can we actually be at war with a form of warfare?

And that's why tolerance sucks. You have to tolerate crime.

You don't get it, if you have the right to be intolerant so do muslims. As in, not tolerate any woman not wearing a Burka, your advocating the same thing as the al-qaeda types, total social conformity.

Pick one stance on this issue. Either you're for tolerance so we're all forced to tolerate your idiocy, or you're against tolerance and you should be punished for your idiocy. One or the other.

I'm against tolerance of bullshit, like immigrant crime and ethnic enclaves. But since you love that crap, you should have no problem tolerating me.

And that's why tolerance sucks. You have to tolerate crime.

What?

Muslims are allowed to be intolerant(because you are allowed to be intolerant), and somehow, magically, this equate to having to tolerate crime?



Dude, what the hell are you smoking?

these threads are boring.

I'm against tolerance of bullshit, like immigrant crime and ethnic enclaves. But since you love that crap, you should have no problem tolerating me.

Then how do you tolerate your own existence?

I'm against tolerance of bullshit, like immigrant crime and ethnic enclaves. But since you love that crap, you should have no problem tolerating me.

I find tolerating you to be one of the most difficult experiences of my life.

Dude, what the hell are you smoking?

Dried horse shit?

Now who's being intolerant?

He's applying your own logic against you. You want absolute conformity. You refuse to conform to the norms of the society you live in. Therefore you argue in favour of you yourself leaving your country.

I find tolerating you to be one of the most difficult experiences of my life.

But being the pinko you are, you have no choice.

I find tolerating you to be one of the most difficult experiences of my life.

Then how do you tolerate your own existence?
And so any attempt at civilized conversation breaks down into ad-hominems...

He's applying your own logic against you. You want absolute conformity. You refuse to conform to the norms of the society you live in. Therefore you argue in favour of you yourself leaving your country.

I expect immigrants to conform to the good parts, like the law and values. I don't expect them, or myself, to conform to bad parts, like tolerating crime and gang wars.

And so any attempt at civilized conversation breaks down into ad-hominems...

Yeah, this thread isn't going anywhere. Though attempts at civilised conversation have been few and far between.

But being the pinko you are, you have no choice.

And now you resort to Ad Hominem arguments. This is pathetic.

And so any attempt at civilized conversation breaks down into ad-hominems...

Yeah apparently.
But being the pinko you are, you have no choice.

And now you resort to Ad Hominem arguments. This is pathetic.
Funny - you made one yourself. And by the way, you have yet to corroborate your claim that Hitler would have eradicated all non-blonde whites.

Listen, I used to be just as tolerant as all of you. I used to be... *gasp* A COMMUNIST. But my patience with the world is wearing thin.

And am I the only one who finds it funny that I've openly said, several times, that you all tolerant and support immigrant crime, and you've done NOTHING to refute that?

Funny - you made one yourself. And by the way, you have yet to corroborate your claim that Hitler would have eradicated all non-blonde whites.

Similarly Ny Nordland has yet to explain how he's allowed misquote the Oslo City Court and nobody is allowed misquote him.

Similarly Ny Nordland has yet to explain how he's allowed misquote the Oslo City Court and nobody is allowed misquote him.

His argument is that he essentially quoted them correctly, because they said that "criminal youths" are at fault, he said that "immigrant youths" are at fault, and immigrant youths makes up most of the criminal youths.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1394245.ece



I consider that to be standard protocol for any major city, apparently you think that Oslo is an exception when it comes to crime. I invite you to come to Compton and walk around at 2am. Also look at the police sketch of the rapist, please.

Much better.

Them streets are all :mp5: :eek: ;)

Now who's being intolerant?
I think you miss the point? He is allowing YOU to choose whether you want to live in a tolerant society or not. He is inviting you to live in a country that is more in line with your intolerant views.

As far as the intolerant being stronger, what was the result of WW2?

these threads are boring.
Indeed - very much so.
One of the many examples of why the anti-immigrant FrP is the biggest party here...

http://oslopuls.no/nyheter/article1273835.ece

Edit: More ex: At least (Because some are unidentified and foreigners are more likely to be unidentified) 2/3 of the rapes in Oslo were done by people of non-western ethnic origin in 2001. No such statistics again after public reaction.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article190268.ece
Yawn.

Old news, you've posted them before, we've talked about them at length before. They still don't say what you want them to say. And as many have pointed out, the court didn't say what you wanted it to say either.

His argument is that he essentially quoted them correctly, because they said that "criminal youths" are at fault, he said that "immigrant youths" are at fault, and immigrant youths makes up most of the criminal youths.

*forces thread to turn full circle*
Mwahahaha.


Immigrant=/=criminal

Funny - you made one yourself. And by the way, you have yet to corroborate your claim that Hitler would have eradicated all non-blonde whites.

Nordicist anthropometrics was used to "improve" the racial make-up of the Germanised section of the population, by absorbing individuals into the German population who were deemed suitably Nordic.[1]

Nordicism also affected the Sorbs, the minority Slav community living in Saxony and Brandenburg.

The theory drew on the dominant anthropological model of racial categories prevalent in the early 20th century, according to which Europeans were divided into three sub-categories of the Caucasian race: the Nordic, Alpine and Mediterranean races. The Nordic race was thought to be prevalent in northern Europe, especially, but not exclusively, among speakers of the Germanic languages, and was characterized by tall stature, wide shoulders, long head- and facial form, straight and fine blond hair, and blue or grey eyes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_theory
Slaves are considered to be caucasian, yet according to Nazi doctrine were not to be considered as equals, I believe in Mein Kampf Hitler says that slavs will be used as slaves to build the master aryan civilization.

As far as the intolerant being stronger, what was the result of WW2?

The Soviets won. So, yeah, intolerance won.

And so any attempt at civilized conversation breaks down into ad-hominems...

Fuck off. This conversation was uncivilized long before I said anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_theory
Slaves are considered to be caucasian, yet according to Nazi doctrine were not to be considered as equals, I believe in Mein Kampf Hitler says that slavs will be used as slaves to build the master aryan civilization.

EM said non-blonde whites, not Slavs.

The Soviets won. So, yeah, intolerance won.

Yay, now we get to argue about who won WWII.

EM said non-blonde whites, not Slavs.

Slavs are non-blond whites.

Slavs are non-blond whites.
Rubbish. A lot of Russians and other Slavs are blonde, just like with the Germans. I am referring to Hitler planning to eliminate any and all non-blonde whites, not just Slavs.

Fuck off. This conversation was uncivilized long before I said anything.
Wow, just keep 'em civilized comments coming.

Slavs are non-blond whites.

Despite the fact that I'm half-Slav, and my grandfather and aunt are blonde? Uh-huh.

Just a quick question, and I mean this sincerely; do you actually know what Slavs are? I'm not insulting your intelligence, I'm just asking.

But being the pinko you are, you have no choice.
He does have a choice. It is called /ignore. :p

He does have a choice. It is called /ignore. :p

I hope he uses it.

Fuck off. This conversation was uncivilized long before I said anything.
You got that right!! :D

Despite the fact that I'm half-Slav, and my grandfather and aunt are blonde? Uh-huh.

Just a quick question, and I mean this sincerely; do you actually know what Slavs are? I'm not insulting your intelligence, I'm just asking.

Slav  /slɑv, slæv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[slahv, slav] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. one of a group of peoples in eastern, southeastern, and central Europe, including the Russians and Ruthenians (Eastern Slavs), the Bulgars, Serbs, Croats, Slavonians, Slovenes, etc. (Southern Slavs), and the Poles, Czechs, Moravians, Slovaks, etc. (Western Slavs).
–adjective
2. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the Slavs; Slavic.

Despite the fact that I'm half-Slav, and my grandfather and aunt are blonde? Uh-huh.

Just a quick question, and I mean this sincerely; do you actually know what Slavs are? I'm not insulting your intelligence, I'm just asking.
Now I get to ask you something - you're half Slavic, yet you actually would support Nazism? :confused: Or is this some pan-aryanist variant of it?

The Soviets won. So, yeah, intolerance won.
You figure wrong. The Nazis lost.

Just a quick question, and I mean this sincerely; do you actually know what Slavs are? I'm not insulting your intelligence, I'm just asking.

Racially speaking slavs are a subdivision of the caucasian race, they are an ethnic group typically from around eastern europe and northern asia. linguistically slav would refer to slavic languages, which include Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, and many other languages native to the area of the Balkans(with the exception being rumanian which is a romance language derived from latin).

a Slav by definition is someone who natively speaks a slavic language.

Now I get to ask you something - you're half Slavic, yet you actually would support Nazism? :confused: Or is this some pan-aryanist variant of it?

The Nazis woudn't care that I was half Slav. I'm half German too, and besides, all the Nazis today are pan-Caucasian. If you need proof, look at Russia; they have one of the largest number of Nazis in Europe.

The Nazis woudn't care that I was half Slav. I'm half German too, and besides, all the Nazis today are pan-Caucasian. If you need proof, look at Russia; they have one of the largest number of Nazis in Europe.
I doubt they'd have felt much affection toward your Slavic parent though - and yes, most modern Neo-Nazis are pan-aryanists, with the exception that they still have some silly kind of Jewish prosecution mania going on.