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More propaganda from the fascis- er, Republicans. I don't think I could see this commercial without becoming nauseated. They know they have nothing to offer voters, so they're trying to scare the shit out of them.

Campaign ads employ propoganda? shocking! every republican and democrat has been using it since before the silent film era.

Campaign ads employ propoganda? shocking! every republican and democrat has been using it since before the silent film era.

This is low, even for them. This is propaganda worthy of the garbage Nazis stuffed down Germans' throats.

With how the republicans have handled everything, I doubt this ad will even work. Most likely when people see this ad they will just change the channel just like with all the pathetic political commercials that keep showing up.

This is low, even for them. This is propaganda worthy of the garbage Nazis stuffed down Germans' throats.

Oh come on. Even the daisy ad was worse than this and thats from the sixties.

Well, here's one that ought to put you right. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp9TgTNNjj0&eurl=)

Oh come on. Even the daisy ad was worse than this and thats from the sixties.

Ah, yes, that...

Lame? Yes.

Making Goebbels proud? Hardly.

Ever look at any of Goebbels stuff? I watched a couple of his "lessons" about Jews and found my emotions getting manipulated. I was surprised by that.

The Repubs probably wish they could have somebody that could manipulate like Goebbels....

The democrats come off as weak on security issues and poll badly on it so what do you expect?

Blood in the water the sharks will attack .

Well, here's one that ought to put you right. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp9TgTNNjj0&eurl=)LOL
I find it funny, the Repulicans talking about empathy

The democrats come off as weak on security issues and poll badly on it so what do you expect?

Blood in the water the sharks will attack .
Poll badly on it? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15357623/site/newsweek/page/2/)
Likewise, on the war on terror, once President Bush’s signature issue. While Republicans have not restored their perennial lead over the Democrats, equal numbers of Americans trust each party more (40 percent for each.) Two weeks ago, the Democrats held a seven-point advantage.Wrong again. Do you ever get tired of that feeling?

Poll badly on it? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15357623/site/newsweek/page/2/)
Wrong again. Do you ever get tired of that feeling?



No nazz you see I look at all the polls and not just the liberal or left leaning polls , I also look at the question being asked. And the samplings .The war in Iraq has most Americans pissed at the republicans ...but the Democrats scare them more , because most sensible people dont think running is a good idea. Now the fact that the Dems are TRYING to spin it with polls is an interesting tactic on their part and may even help them a little bit.
But Joe average guy thats going to vote is not thinking of the democrats as the save the US party from terrorist and other threats. BUT they are looking at them and saying " well at least they are not republicans " But that doesnt win elections...Who makes you feel safer? Most people will NOT pick the group that wants to run and hide...and true or not...that is the perception of the democrats .

I also have the advantage of working in a election and being involved in politics in my area , so I actully get to talk to real people and listen to what they say and feel .

The Democrats scare them on a national level . So much so that santorum of all people is still in a race against Casey despite the fact he's Rick Santorum , the only reason he's in the race is people are afraid the Democrats may win the house and senate...

Why is that ...

What do your polls tell you ?

There only telling you whats coming from the terrorists, they have the moral responsibility to let you know.
The terrorists DO want to kill every American on the face of the planet.
This is not just election campaigning, this is also the simple truth.

lie lie lie lie lie lie truth!

The problem with propoganda, is that the truth is so much more effective.
Truth is not debateable.
Truth does not leave anything up to interperatation.

Its rather black and white.

But..the goal of propoganda is to be the truth in sheeps clothing, as it were.

Repeating one side of an opinion, with conviction and fervor, is often enough to gain support to your cause.
Especially from those with similar views.

Look at Fox News, or Michael Moore.

They endlessly repereat thier messages, over and over, in order to get you to agree with them.

Fox is far less subtle.
They actually make up things that arent true.
The opening of the Reagan Library, for instance.
That whole debacle was crossing the line, a little.
They embellish the truth, or detract from it, to put a direct slant on what they report.
Thats where they cease to be journalists, and become propoganda dispensers.

Moore tends to be a bit more subtle.
He doesnt lie to you, he merely edits his films in a rather subjective way.
Like not telling you a particular scene with a person giving a monolouge is actually two separate occasions, spliced into one.

However, he too, is not a journalist.
He doesnt claim to be either fair, or balanced.
He has a paticular agenda, and makes his movies with the intention of making a specific point.

This however, certainly makes it qualify as propoganda.


It should always be remembered,that just propoganda is always false.

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More propaganda from the fascis- er, Republicans. I don't think I could see this commercial without becoming nauseated. They know they have nothing to offer voters, so they're trying to scare the shit out of them.We'll have to see how effective it is. It certainly is desperate.

This simply isn't as good as Goebbel's stuff.

Fearmongering, yes, but not deployed with any kind of talent. Poor effort.

Campaign ads employ propoganda? shocking! every republican and democrat has been using it since before the silent film era.

The Democrats' stuff right now isn't even a fraction as bad as the Republicans'.

This simply isn't as good as Goebbel's stuff.

Fearmongering, yes, but not deployed with any kind of talent. Poor effort.
Yeah, they aim for Goebbels but come off as Baghdad Bob.

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More propaganda from the fascis- er, Republicans. I don't think I could see this commercial without becoming nauseated. They know they have nothing to offer voters, so they're trying to scare the shit out of them.
Yes, unlike the Democrats who also have nothing to offer and whom we should be scared of, as well.

Yes, unlike the Democrats who also have nothing to offer and whom we should be scared of, as well.

What's your next trick? Blaming the world's troubles on Clinton?

What's your next trick? Blaming the world's troubles on Clinton?

What a chip we have on those shoulders this morning, no? To instantly play the Clinton card is just a little desperate, isn't it?

So what do the Democrats have to offer, aside from that 'D' rather than the 'R' that follows their names?

What's your next trick? Blaming the world's troubles on Clinton?

er, sometimes when people don't like democrats it's not because they're republicans. the democrats are hardly any less lame. democrats aren't hardly any better on gay rights, the environment, economic justice, the war, capital punishement, or really much anything important. the democrats *don't* have anything different to offer and *are* just as corrupt as the republicans. do you prefer your ideological prostitute in red or blue?

What a chip we have on those shoulders this morning, no? To instantly play the Clinton card is just a little desperate, isn't it?

So what do the Democrats have to offer, aside from that 'D' rather than the 'R' that follows their names?

Well, form the outside it looks as if the D means cooperation while the R means confrontation. Rs are leading terrible wars abroad and they install concentration camps abroad to detain folks they don't like but have no substantial charges against and Rs are spying on their own people. Rs are evil.

Clinton earned international respect for the US, Bush destroyed all respect there ever was. The US is now seen as the No 1 rogue state.

er, sometimes when people don't like democrats it's not because they're republicans.

You're new here, obviously, so I think you should save the "getting on people's cases for calling people this or that" until you are familiar with the lay of the land.

wow. So GOP is trying to scare the voters by trotting out the Osama bogeyman, huh?
"If you don't vote for us, He'll attack and kill you all!"

Remind me again, someone, what party the person who said the following belongs to:
"I just don't spend that much time on it, to be honest." [Regarding the capture of Osama bin Laden]

This is low, even for them. This is propaganda worthy of the garbage Nazis stuffed down Germans' throats.

Well, it's low, but not for them. It's exactly the same as when Dick Cheney said in an interview "if we make the wrong choice on Nov 7 we might get hit again, and hit hard."

He's essentially saying that if you vote Democratic, you vote terrorism. Because of course it was a Democrat that allowed the worst terrorist attack in our nations history to occur. Right?

The "propoganda" churned out by the Republican machine is nothing short of childish mudslinging and fearmongering. Dr. Goebbels and his propoganda machine did it right; they didn't just use fearmongering. They used tactics to make people believe; the power of speech was one of them.