NationStates Jolt Archive


So where should I go?

Utracia
22-10-2006, 03:22
I have heard repeatedly that if things continue to go downhill here in the United States that people should consider relocating to other countries. So if that time arrives and now I must choose a new place to live, what country has the most freedoms, or just the best country to live overall? I hear Canada, Britain, etc., but I wouldn't mind hearing why exactly that is. What laws make you free, that would equal to that of the U.S.? It would certainly help should the worst happen.
Ashmoria
22-10-2006, 03:27
new zealand. its a cool country that is well out of the need to run the world business.
New Naliitr
22-10-2006, 03:28
I'm going to Finland, my ancestral home country. I'll need to get Conan O'Brien out of power first, though.
Wanderjar
22-10-2006, 03:29
I have heard repeatedly that if things continue to go downhill here in the United States that people should consider relocating to other countries. So if that time arrives and now I must choose a new place to live, what country has the most freedoms, or just the best country to live overall? I hear Canada, Britain, etc., but I wouldn't mind hearing why exactly that is. What laws make you free, that would equal to that of the U.S.? It would certainly help should the worst happen.


Join me in either Germany, Australia, or Canada.
MeansToAnEnd
22-10-2006, 03:30
Perhaps Cuba would be a good choice for you. Let's see how long you'll be a leftist after being shut in a communist hell-hole. It would change your political outlook for the better, methinks.
Wanderjar
22-10-2006, 03:31
Perhaps Cuba would be a good choice for you. Let's see how long you'll be a leftist after being shut in a communist hell-hole. It would change your political outlook for the better, methinks.

Thats why I'm a Democratic Communist. And Cuba had a good thing going until Che Guevara fell in love with war and became evil, and Castro became paranoid of assassination.
Hamilay
22-10-2006, 03:34
Join me in either Germany, Australia, or Canada.
You tore a hole in the space-time continum and are in three places at once? Or you chopped your body into pieces and sent them to different countries? :confused:

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Taipan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Stonefish and the poison thing that lives in a shell
That spikes you when you pick it up

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed

Your life's constantly under threat
Have you been bitten yet?
You've only got three minutes left
Before a massive coronary breakdown

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Tiapan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Big shark just waiting for you to go swimming
At Bondi Beach

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed
Your blood is bound to be spilled
With fear your pants will be filled
Because you might accidentally get killed

Australia FTW! :p
The Tribes Of Longton
22-10-2006, 03:36
Go to Croatia, the land's cheap and you could make a killing in the property market. Just get used to losing limbs to land mines occasionally.
Wanderjar
22-10-2006, 03:36
Go to Croatia, the land's cheap and you could make a killing in the property market. Just get used to losing limbs to land mines occasionally.

HAHAHA!
IL Ruffino
22-10-2006, 03:37
Reykjavik.
Not bad
22-10-2006, 03:38
I have heard repeatedly that if things continue to go downhill here in the United States that people should consider relocating to other countries. So if that time arrives and now I must choose a new place to live, what country has the most freedoms, or just the best country to live overall? I hear Canada, Britain, etc., but I wouldn't mind hearing why exactly that is. What laws make you free, that would equal to that of the U.S.? It would certainly help should the worst happen.

Meh, alot of people talk alot of long crap about immigrating to elsewhere but too few have balls as big as their mouths and actually do it. Shame really, and I dont know why they say it when they dont mean it.
The Beautiful Darkness
22-10-2006, 03:44
You tore a hole in the space-time continum and are in three places at once? Or you chopped your body into pieces and sent them to different countries? :confused:

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Taipan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Stonefish and the poison thing that lives in a shell
That spikes you when you pick it up

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed

Your life's constantly under threat
Have you been bitten yet?
You've only got three minutes left
Before a massive coronary breakdown

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Tiapan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Big shark just waiting for you to go swimming
At Bondi Beach

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed
Your blood is bound to be spilled
With fear your pants will be filled
Because you might accidentally get killed

Australia FTW! :p

Lol! I love that song! :D
Mondoth
22-10-2006, 03:45
I've got plans involving Australia. But htats mostly for the Shipyards in the area becasue my Ultimate plan is a yacht cruising the Pacific ocean all by me onesies.
Free shepmagans
22-10-2006, 03:47
A need a country with the right to own a gun and a decent declaration of rights. *crickets chirp*
Utracia
22-10-2006, 03:48
Meh, alot of people talk alot of long crap about immigrating to elsewhere but too few have balls as big as their mouths and actually do it. Shame really, and I dont know why they say it when they dont mean it.

That doesn't help! I need to know where all Americans who would still be sane should flee to! Those who don't have the balls can instead get their butts sent to secret prisons when they complain to the american regime about their rights.
Icovir
22-10-2006, 03:52
I would go to either Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Yeman, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Egypt, or France.

Why?

Because French is my second language and Arabic is my third. I'll go to a place where I don't have to learn the language when I get there, but a place OTHER than Britian, Canada, or some other English speaking country.
Hamilay
22-10-2006, 03:53
You win the thread!
Fixed, to what you basically said, right? :D
The Beautiful Darkness
22-10-2006, 03:56
Fixed, to what you basically said, right? :D

Yeah sure. :p
RockTheCasbah
22-10-2006, 04:19
I have heard repeatedly that if things continue to go downhill here in the United States that people should consider relocating to other countries. So if that time arrives and now I must choose a new place to live, what country has the most freedoms, or just the best country to live overall? I hear Canada, Britain, etc., but I wouldn't mind hearing why exactly that is. What laws make you free, that would equal to that of the U.S.? It would certainly help should the worst happen.

We have the best economy in the world. Think about that before you go anywhere.

If you don't like America, work to change what you don't like. Anyone can run away to Canada.

On second hand, If you are too lazy to get off your ass to change anything, maybe you should leave America. We don't need people like that.
Montacanos
22-10-2006, 04:25
I was thinking Austria, but only if I had enough money to set myself up stable.
Utracia
22-10-2006, 04:26
We have the best economy in the world. Think about that before you go anywhere.

If you don't like America, work to change what you don't like. Anyone can run away to Canada.

On second hand, If you are too lazy to get off your ass to change anything, maybe you should leave America. We don't need people like that.

I suppose I could get myself a gun and work to overthrow the oppressive government...

But then I wouldn't get an answer as to what country would be good to move to. Supposively there are choices out there that have the same freedoms that we do. The freedoms we have at the moment anway.
RockTheCasbah
22-10-2006, 04:30
I suppose I could get myself a gun and work to overthrow the oppressive government...

But then I wouldn't get an answer as to what country would be good to move to. Supposively there are choices out there that have the same freedoms that we do. The freedoms we have at the moment anway.

I was thinking more along the lines of joining a political movement...become a hippie, do some acid, have a good time.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
22-10-2006, 05:57
Don't come to Canada to escape America. Canadians are becoming steadily more conservative, and are adopting many American models. Ironically, as more Americans seem to be becoming interested in public health care in the Canadian style, Canadians are interested in privatizing health care.

Every country has its problems, but if you don't like America's, Canada is not much different anymore.
Utracia
22-10-2006, 15:24
Don't come to Canada to escape America. Canadians are becoming steadily more conservative, and are adopting many American models. Ironically, as more Americans seem to be becoming interested in public health care in the Canadian style, Canadians are interested in privatizing health care.

Every country has its problems, but if you don't like America's, Canada is not much different anymore.

See! If this is accurate then everyone talking about going to Canada would be mistaken! The world does seem to be turning more conservative. Perhaps there won't be somewhere better to go to...
Monkeypimp
22-10-2006, 15:29
new zealand. its a cool country that is well out of the need to run the world business.

Meh, New Zealand's ok.
Hydesland
22-10-2006, 15:49
Don't you think you are being a little over dramatic? What are you afraid might happen to you if you stay?

Anyways, you will definately want to live in either UK, Australia, NZ or Canada. As they are english speaking, with a good market and economy.
Cluichstan
22-10-2006, 15:52
Try Zimbabwe.
Ashmoria
22-10-2006, 15:58
See! If this is accurate then everyone talking about going to Canada would be mistaken! The world does seem to be turning more conservative. Perhaps there won't be somewhere better to go to...

geez every place has its stupid politics.


this is easy.

you dont want to go to europe, they speak other languages and have customs that will annoy you.

you dont want to go to asia

you dont want to go to latin america

you dont want to go to the british isles. have you noticed that tony blair is george bush's bitch? how do you think he got to be PM? irelands a possibility but it does have strong conservative streak.


your choices are...

canada (too cold)

australia (too hot, but you could go to southern australia)

new zealand (best choice especially if you are an outdoor enthusiast)

aruba (best island in the carribean to move to. low crime, good economy, friendly people)

honestly, if one of these 4 isnt good enough for you, no place is.
Utracia
22-10-2006, 16:02
geez every place has its stupid politics.


this is easy.

you dont want to go to europe, they speak other languages and have customs that will annoy you.

you dont want to go to asia

you dont want to go to latin america

you dont want to go to the british isles. have you noticed that tony blair is george bush's bitch? how do you think he got to be PM? irelands a possibility but it does have strong conservative streak.


your choices are...

canada (too cold)

australia (too hot, but you could go to southern australia)

new zealand (best choice especially if you are an outdoor enthusiast)

aruba (best island in the carribean to move to. low crime, good economy, friendly people)

honestly, if one of these 4 isnt good enough for you, no place is.

I am more concerned with all the other democracies in the world turning conservative and passing similar laws as the U.S. has. Climate becomes secondary.
Slaughterhouse five
22-10-2006, 16:09
go to slaughterhouse five land. its located at the scenic location of my basement. it rocks :D
Ashmoria
22-10-2006, 16:17
I am more concerned with all the other democracies in the world turning conservative and passing similar laws as the U.S. has. Climate becomes secondary.

pay attention

the list of 4 had nothing to do with climate

and besides, climate is important to you LIFE. if greenland had the free-est, most liberal government in the world i still wouldnt move there. bad climate.

ALL governments have stupid laws. ALL.
Hydesland
22-10-2006, 16:20
pay attention

the list of 4 had nothing to do with climate

and besides, climate is important to you LIFE. if greenland had the free-est, most liberal government in the world i still wouldnt move there. bad climate.

ALL governments have stupid laws. ALL.

Infact, America is pretty tame compared to most of the countries in the world. It just has a lot of attention payed to it because of it's influence all over the world.
Utracia
22-10-2006, 16:31
Infact, America is pretty tame compared to most of the countries in the world. It just has a lot of attention payed to it because of it's influence all over the world.

I'm not talking about most countries in the world. I mean the ones people mention they would run to if things got real bad in America. Canada, western Europe, Australia, etc. I am trying to find out what qualities these places have that would make them a good destination to imigrate to.
Celtlund
22-10-2006, 16:36
I have heard repeatedly that if things continue to go downhill here in the United States that people should consider relocating to other countries. So if that time arrives and now I must choose a new place to live, ,,,,

Antarctica is nice.:eek:
King Bodacious
22-10-2006, 16:38
The United States of America remains to be my favorite country of all and here is a link to a few reasons......
http://www.mamarocks.com/why_i_love_her.htm
New Xero Seven
22-10-2006, 16:41
The United States of America remains to be my favorite country of all and here is a link to a few reasons......
http://www.mamarocks.com/why_i_love_her.htm

Lawl. Well, yes. I can certainly see why. Beautiful land, beautiful people, beautiful nature and animals...

...BUT KRAZY GOVERNMENT!!!!11 :eek:
Yootopia
22-10-2006, 16:43
The United States of America remains to be my favorite country of all and here is a link to a few reasons......
http://www.mamarocks.com/why_i_love_her.htm
Here's some for why I don't!
http://www.isometry.com/human/?i=/usahate.html

And I suggest moving to somewhere like Scotland. It's great, and they share your language.
Ashmoria
22-10-2006, 16:55
I'm not talking about most countries in the world. I mean the ones people mention they would run to if things got real bad in America. Canada, western Europe, Australia, etc. I am trying to find out what qualities these places have that would make them a good destination to imigrate to.

those reasons are particular to the person involved. once you realize that the list of countries you might ever want to move to is very short. you do some elementary research

1) can you get in? no sense planning to move to france if they dont take many americans. for the most part, to immigrate to any other country you have to have one of 2 things. MONEY and lots of it, or specialized skills that are desired by the country you have decided on. for example, if someone wants to move to the US, all they have to do is get a nursing degree.

2) is it a good place to live? that requires that you visit the countries on your list (which is down to 4). if you live in the northern US, you drive up to canada and look around. personally i love canada. the only thing i have against it is that its COLD. you might feel differently. no way to know until you go see for yourself

if you live in the south eastern us, take a trip to aruba. great place to live but its a fucking ISLAND. the closest big city is in venezuela. you wouldnt get back to the US but once a year or every other year. you dont know until you see for yourself

if one of those 2 easy to get to places arent good enough for you, you take a trip to australia. great place but very expensive to visit friends and family back in the US. same with new zealand. the quality of life is great but it still might not be your cup of tea. gotta go see for yourself.

once you sit around the pub talking politics, youll find that every place you visit has stupid laws and conservative trends. the good part about the 4 i listed is that they arent really world players so you dont get the same foreign policy disasters that we get in the US. they still have some stupid policies but it seldom gets hundreds of thousands of people killed.
Greyenivol Colony
22-10-2006, 17:29
We have the best economy in the world.

Is that the best reason you can think of? It's not even a very good reason, all it means is that the people richer than you are slightly richer than they would be in another country.

In fact, its probably a good reason to leave, if you live within a good economy its more likely that the wealth you bring with you will go further than at home.

If I had to recommend a country for you guys, I'd say the Netherlands... or maybe you could emigrate to Norway, just to piss of Ny Nordland.
Greyenivol Colony
22-10-2006, 17:33
The United States of America remains to be my favorite country of all and here is a link to a few reasons......
http://www.mamarocks.com/why_i_love_her.htm

Oh. My. God.

That is so lame...

(Also I notice the first painting is by 'Kim Sung'!)
Gravlen
22-10-2006, 17:44
You tore a hole in the space-time continum and are in three places at once? Or you chopped your body into pieces and sent them to different countries? :confused:

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Taipan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Stonefish and the poison thing that lives in a shell
That spikes you when you pick it up

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed

Your life's constantly under threat
Have you been bitten yet?
You've only got three minutes left
Before a massive coronary breakdown

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Tiapan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Big shark just waiting for you to go swimming
At Bondi Beach

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed
Your blood is bound to be spilled
With fear your pants will be filled
Because you might accidentally get killed

Australia FTW! :p

Well I'm sold! :)

*Starts packing up*
Ashmoria
22-10-2006, 17:44
Oh. My. God.

That is so lame...

(Also I notice the first painting is by 'Kim Sung'!)

do you have something against kim sung?
Boonytopia
23-10-2006, 11:51
The United States of America remains to be my favorite country of all and here is a link to a few reasons......
http://www.mamarocks.com/why_i_love_her.htm

The page just about made me vomit.
Free Randomers
23-10-2006, 11:56
You tore a hole in the space-time continum and are in three places at once? Or you chopped your body into pieces and sent them to different countries? :confused:

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Taipan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Stonefish and the poison thing that lives in a shell
That spikes you when you pick it up

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed

Your life's constantly under threat
Have you been bitten yet?
You've only got three minutes left
Before a massive coronary breakdown

Redback, Funnel-Web, Blue-ringed octopus
Tiapan, Tigersnake and a Box jellyfish
Big shark just waiting for you to go swimming
At Bondi Beach

Come to Australia
You might accidentally get killed
Your blood is bound to be spilled
With fear your pants will be filled
Because you might accidentally get killed

Australia FTW! :p

Aussie don't want no limp wristed pansies. If you're scared off by the 1 in a million chance of being eaten by a shark then it would be better for all concerned if you stayed away :p

Anyway - Until recently I'd have reccommended Australia or England. But the English government is getting a bit scarey lately - so it's gotta be Aussie. If they won't take you you could try for New Zealand.
Delator
23-10-2006, 13:07
Fiji...who needs a job when you can be a beach bum! :p
Cluichstan
23-10-2006, 13:10
ALL governments have stupid laws. ALL.

Quoted for troof!
Hydesland
23-10-2006, 14:42
Here's some for why I don't!
http://www.isometry.com/human/?i=/usahate.html

And I suggest moving to somewhere like Scotland. It's great, and they share your language.

This is worse then King Bodacious's example. It may look nicer, more well put and better explained. However it's complete biased bullshit, being very manipulative. They are using propagander by trying justify hatred towards the USA based on Americas past mistakes, whilst either over exagerating them or changing their intentions behind the act. Using terms like "ethnic clensing of the palastinians" :rolleyes: for example.
Utracia
23-10-2006, 21:31
Aussie don't want no limp wristed pansies. If you're scared off by the 1 in a million chance of being eaten by a shark then it would be better for all concerned if you stayed away :p

Anyway - Until recently I'd have reccommended Australia or England. But the English government is getting a bit scarey lately - so it's gotta be Aussie. If they won't take you you could try for New Zealand.

Australia sounds good. I understand they have good surfing there should I ever want to take it up. :D

Also seems to be the less militaristic, etc., so perhaps the nation won't develop some Orwellian society like the more powerful countries might...
Soviestan
23-10-2006, 21:32
Just stay in the US.
Dinaverg
23-10-2006, 21:58
Luxembourg!
Utracia
23-10-2006, 21:58
Just stay in the US.

I don't think you are following my hypothetical...
IL Ruffino
23-10-2006, 22:01
I don't think you are following my hypothetical...

Join the army, you'll never be in USA ever again!
Cluichstan
23-10-2006, 22:03
Or just go to Ruffy's place. It's like a whole 'nother country. :p
IL Ruffino
23-10-2006, 22:06
Or just go to Ruffy's place. It's like a whole 'nother country. :p

Amish Country. ;)
Cabra West
23-10-2006, 22:07
I like living in Ireland... but if you do come here, please don't walk around telling people your Irish too. ;)
The Black Forrest
23-10-2006, 22:09
I like living in Ireland... but if you do come here, please don't walk around telling people your Irish too. ;)
Why would I do that? I am Scots! :p

Well one side of the family....
Utracia
23-10-2006, 22:17
I like living in Ireland... but if you do come here, please don't walk around telling people your Irish too. ;)

Don't worry. My ancestors are English. :)
IL Ruffino
23-10-2006, 22:22
I like living in Ireland... but if you do come here, please don't walk around telling people your Irish too. ;)

That does it!

I'm taking a trip toIreland.

I shall walk around wearing a shirt that says "GOD BLESS AMERICA" on it, with a huge USA flag under it, and a "Kiss me I'm Irish" pin attached to my Hard Rock Cafe hat.

I shall tell the locals..

"I'm Irish!" As I askthem to take my picture infront of a pub.

They will love me so..
Cabra West
23-10-2006, 22:27
That does it!

I'm taking a trip toIreland.

I shall walk around wearing a shirt that says "GOD BLESS AMERICA" on it, with a huge USA flag under it, and a "Kiss me I'm Irish" pin attached to my Hard Rock Cafe hat.

I shall tell the locals..

"I'm Irish!" As I askthem to take my picture infront of a pub.

They will love me so..

Don't expect rudeness... but you should expect to hear a lot of laughter when you turn your back :p :D
Cabra West
23-10-2006, 22:28
Don't worry. My ancestors are English. :)

I guess the Irish would pity you then. ;)
IL Ruffino
23-10-2006, 22:32
Don't expect rudeness... but you should expect to hear a lot of laughter when you turn your back :p :D

:p

Ahh how my relatives are kind..