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Segway

Latonic
22-10-2006, 01:48
you know what is a stupid invention? segways. whats the point? i image search and see women taking a segway tour. what? hmm.. they're look fine to me, and they can't WALK? correct me if there is actually is a use for segways.

it's a sad day when walking gives way to technology.
Neo Sanderstead
22-10-2006, 01:50
My understanding is that its far faster than walking and less cumbersome than cycling, so if say your workplace was a 40 minute walk away, it could only be a 10 minute segway ride away.

Please do not write things off on the grounds of your ignorence.
JuNii
22-10-2006, 01:51
White & Nerdy by Al Yankovic

They see me roll on
My Segway
I know in my heart they think I’m white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
Can’t you see I’m white and nerdy
Look at me, I’m white and nerdy
I’d like to roll with
The gangstas
Although it’s apparent I’m too white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
I’m just too white and nerdy
How’d I get so white and nerdy



Truth be told, I rather bike, but then, I've never tried the seqway
Dinaverg
22-10-2006, 01:53
White & Nerdy by Al Yankovic

They see me roll on
My Segway
I know in my heart they think I’m white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
Can’t you see I’m white and nerdy
Look at me, I’m white and nerdy
I’d like to roll with
The gangstas
Although it’s apparent I’m too white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
Think I’m just too white and nerdy
I’m just too white and nerdy
How’d I get so white and nerdy



Truth be told, I rather bike, but then, I've never tried the seqway

Damn, beaten to it.

That was the only good thing that could come of this thread.
Vetalia
22-10-2006, 01:55
The main problem with the Segway is that it tries to fill a niche that, unfortunately, doesn't exist in many places. Another complication is that there are many places where bikes and vehicles like the Segway can't be taken on sidewalks or even on roads, especially high-traffic ones. Also, in many other places, there is too much pedestrian traffic to make these types of vehicles practical.

Another complication is the cost; these vehicles cost as much as a decent used car or half the cost of a higher-end used car, and they can't go anywhere near as fast as one of those.
Latonic
22-10-2006, 02:00
honestly white and nerdy was when i thought of asking this question, thanks for saying what everyone else is thinking, i was just watching it.
and im not ignorant, i said you could correct me, ignorance is not really lack of knowledge but refusal which is not what im doing
IL Ruffino
22-10-2006, 02:06
you know what is a stupid invention? segways. whats the point? i image search and see women taking a segway tour. what? hmm.. they're look fine to me, and they can't WALK? correct me if there is actually is a use for segways.

it's a sad day when walking gives way to technology.

They use them at the Franklin Institute to get around.

It's always a nice surprise seeing one just fly past you.
Latonic
22-10-2006, 02:23
My understanding is that its far faster than walking and less cumbersome than cycling, so if say your workplace was a 40 minute walk away, it could only be a 10 minute segway ride away.

Please do not write things off on the grounds of your ignorence.

*pulls out dictionary* a first definition of ignorance is lack of knowledge, the second is refusal of knowledge. now, im not refusing more knowledge, i said to correct me if i was wrong. As for the first definition, i would have to base things off some kind of "lack of knowledge" if i posted a discussion and i later say "whats the point? i don't lack any knowledge and i know im right anyways, thanks for nothing." what are you suppose to say "o my mistake?" NO! i have to have some kind of "lack of knowledge" and i certainly don't think my view is automatically right.
Icovir
22-10-2006, 02:26
My understanding is that its far faster than walking and less cumbersome than cycling, so if say your workplace was a 40 minute walk away, it could only be a 10 minute segway ride away.

Please do not write things off on the grounds of your ignorence.

Please, please, PLEASE tell me you were kidding, because there's gonna be an intense debate if you weren't.

Nowadays, people are too lazy to get around. That gives leeway to obesity, which gives leeway to diseased, which gives leeway to early death.

Now if walking became obsolete, and everyone (I mean EVERYONE) used cars or segways to get around (instead of bikes and walking), then everyone would have an obesity related disease, no?

The day when walking collapses under technology is the day with healthy foods (vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc.) collapses under crap like McDonalds (hey, they have fries, which are vegetables, right? WRONG!).

Therefore, everyone will be fat, everyone will die early, and the human population will be extinct in a couple of centuries.
Soviet Haaregrad
22-10-2006, 02:30
I want a Segway, I mean, I could use it to get from my bedroom to the stairs and then from the bottom of the stairs to the kitchen, then to the door and over to my car. I could put it in the trunk and then Segway from my car to the door at work...
Icovir
22-10-2006, 02:31
I want a Segway, I mean, I could use it to get from my bedroom to the stairs and then from the bottom of the stairs to the kitchen, then to the door and over to my car. I could put it in the trunk and then Segway from my car to the door at work...

Man, I need a segway just to go from my bed to the bathroom (only 10 steps away, mind you).

10 steps, such a long distance! Why do they make us run these marathons?
Dinaverg
22-10-2006, 02:34
Therefore, everyone will be fat, everyone will die early, and the human population will be extinct in a couple of centuries.

What? Dude, life expectancy wasn't always 60-something you know. We can't go extinct from early deaths, unless they're all before puberty or something.
Vetalia
22-10-2006, 02:36
What? Dude, life expectancy wasn't always 60-something you know. We can't go extinct from early deaths, unless they're all before puberty or something.

I'd be way more concerned about the loss of quality of life rather than a shorter lifespan; who would want to live to 80 but be dependent on medicines and surgery for their wellbeing?

Quality of life is in many ways more important than raw life expectancy.
Killinginthename
22-10-2006, 02:39
The only thing I know for a fact about segway's is that when I went to a class at the plant that manufactures segway to learn to repair them I was told by the guy teaching the class that he had never seen anyone take one apart and put it back together faster and more efficiently than I did.

They are fun to ride too.
Dinaverg
22-10-2006, 02:40
I'd be way more concerned about the loss of quality of life rather than a shorter lifespan; who would want to live to 80 but be dependent on medicines and surgery for their wellbeing?

Quality of life is in many ways more important than raw life expectancy.

If someone is concerned about that, do you think maybe they'd try to not get fat?
Vetalia
22-10-2006, 02:41
If someone is concerned about that, do you think maybe they'd try to not get fat?

Yeah. That's why I walk places rather than drive or take the bus.

Unfortunately, most people prefer to blame others or try to medicate their way out of the problem...
Icovir
22-10-2006, 02:43
What? Dude, life expectancy wasn't always 60-something you know. We can't go extinct from early deaths, unless they're all before puberty or something.

People will get WAY fatter than they are now, my friend, if what I said became true. You know of those young adult (20-29) obesity-related deaths, correct?
Soviet Haaregrad
22-10-2006, 02:43
Man, I need a segway just to go from my bed to the bathroom (only 10 steps away, mind you).

10 steps, such a long distance! Why do they make us run these marathons?

Ever considered a bottle, or possibly tube?
Dinaverg
22-10-2006, 02:46
People will get WAY fatter than they are now, my friend, if what I said became true. You know of those young adult (20-29) obesity-related deaths, correct?

You assume EVERYONE can do that. Do we even have that much food?
Dinaverg
22-10-2006, 02:47
Yeah. That's why I walk places rather than drive or take the bus.

Unfortunately, most people prefer to blame others or try to medicate their way out of the problem...

True. But then you'll be alive, and so will a bunch of fit girls. We won't go extinct.
Vetalia
22-10-2006, 02:48
True. But then you'll be alive, and so will a bunch of fit girls. We won't go extinct.

Awesome. Awesome to the max.
Icovir
22-10-2006, 02:49
You assume EVERYONE can do that. Do we even have that much food?

Well, it is the future. More Micky Dees, finding uses of other unhealthy foods...

Also, not everyoen on the earth. Just more than 3/4 the population. That'll force some people to inbreed, causing birth defects, which in turn causes early deaths, which in turn causes extinction.

The point is is that people need to do somethind about their obesity, and fat--err I mean, fast (khkhkh).
Dinaverg
22-10-2006, 02:54
Well, it is the future. More Micky Dees, finding uses of other unhealthy foods...

Also, not everyoen on the earth. Just more than 3/4 the population. That'll force some people to inbreed, causing birth defects, which in turn causes early deaths, which in turn causes extinction.

The point is is that people need to do somethind about their obesity, and fat--err I mean, fast (khkhkh).

1/4 of the population is 1.5 billion people. How will that cause enough inbreeding to lead to our extinction?
Latonic
23-10-2006, 23:48
i enjoyed your responses. only around here (NYC) we never call mcdonald's mickey dee's, but besides that point lets go back to my original point: so segways are not very useful right?
and im not a health nut but i definitly enjoy and feel that healthy foods and exercise is good.
USMC leatherneck
24-10-2006, 00:15
Quality of life is in many ways more important than raw life expectancy.

May i ask why?
UpwardThrust
24-10-2006, 00:20
My understanding is that its far faster than walking and less cumbersome than cycling, so if say your workplace was a 40 minute walk away, it could only be a 10 minute segway ride away.

Please do not write things off on the grounds of your ignorence.

Less combursome how? I mean they weigh like 100 times more then a bike of a simmilar price range. And are slower.
Vetalia
24-10-2006, 00:25
May i ask why?

What good is living a long time if your life is spent in pain or on medication caused by poor health decisions, or if you live a long time in misery? We can extend life, but extending life is no good unless you can experience and enjoy it.

Remember the myth of Eos and Tithonus who asked for eternal life but didn't specify eternal youth or health and so became decrepit and begged for death. Living forever, or for a long time, is no good if it is a life of suffering.

But then again, they're not mutually exclusive. Generally, better quality of life equates to longer lifespan rather than existing independently.
USMC leatherneck
24-10-2006, 00:29
What good is living a long time if your life is spent in pain or on medication caused by poor health decisions, or if you live a long time in misery? We can extend life, but extending life is no good unless you can experience and enjoy it.

Remember the myth of Eos and Tithonus who asked for eternal life but didn't specify eternal youth or health and so became decrepit and begged for death. Living forever, or for a long time, is no good if it is a life of suffering.

But then again, they're not mutually exclusive. Generally, better quality of life equates to longer lifespan rather than existing independently.

B/c mabye there is more to life than comfort. Mabye just mabye, it is more important to make a contribution to society than be comfortable. IMHO, comfort just makes you weaker. It deters you from doing the difficult things just so u can have an intangible thing.
The Black Forrest
24-10-2006, 00:30
Nope!

The Pet Rock has that beaten by light years!
Qwystyria
24-10-2006, 00:38
People will get WAY fatter than they are now, my friend, if what I said became true. You know of those young adult (20-29) obesity-related deaths, correct?

It won't be the dying young that makes us go extinct, but lack of sex. Nobody wants to have sex with a blob. Not even most other blobs.

On the other hand, you have people like me, who even if I sat around all day, ate junk food, and segwayed to the bathroom, I STILL don't gain weight. I just lose muscle tone. And yes, I'm well above the age where most people lose their matabolism for that.
Dobbsworld
24-10-2006, 00:48
Therefore, everyone will be fat, everyone will die early, and the human population will be extinct in a couple of centuries.

Please, please, PLEASE cork it.
Not bad
24-10-2006, 00:52
Nowadays, people are too lazy to get around. That gives leeway to obesity, which gives leeway to diseased, which gives leeway to early death.



You keep saying early deaths. Early for what?
Katganistan
24-10-2006, 01:20
i enjoyed your responses. only around here (NYC) we never call mcdonald's mickey dee's, but besides that point lets go back to my original point: so segways are not very useful right?
and im not a health nut but i definitly enjoy and feel that healthy foods and exercise is good.

They certainly would be of no use in NYC, that's for sure. In an airport terminal, though.... hmmmmmmm.
And hey, the company just doesn't know how to spell Segue, does it? (the post about taking one from the bedroom to the stairs, and another from the stairs to the front door led to that little segue.... ;))

segue:to make a transition from one thing to another smoothly and without interruption: The conversation segued from travel anecdotes to food.

(dictionary.com)
Theoretical Physicists
24-10-2006, 01:28
To add to the segway debate,
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=segway_more_complicated_than_it_needs_to_be
New Xero Seven
24-10-2006, 01:28
It's too hi-tech nerdy for most people, and the gov't doesn't allow it to be used on sidewalks and what not. So thats why segways aren't used a whole lot, not where I live anyway.
Not bad
24-10-2006, 01:36
The best reason to save Segway from those who would like to see her dead:

Segway Polo.

You got teams of eager men with giant hammers on motorised vehicles in competition with eachother That alone is reason enough for Segway!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8940120949202973376
Entropic Creation
24-10-2006, 01:39
The Segway was a great idea, were people to use them to get around the city instead of cars it would greatly reduce traffic congestion as well as fuel usage and pollution. The problem is that there simply isnt the infrastructure for them.

Were someone downtown to have a Segway instead of a car, where would they park it when they got to their destination?

Perhaps if there were Segway stations all over the city, they could be used like Flexcars. If there was a Segway station a block or two from your apartment complex, and one at your office, it would be better to take it rather than have a car. Some will say “that’s what the bus is for” but in DC it usually isnt practical (depending on where exactly you live and work of course) and it has one of the best public transportation systems in the US.

I truly hope nobody is actually thinking it is supposed to be used to get across your room instead of walking. It isn’t for getting around your house.

A Segway is something which is analogous to a bike, but more compact – thus making it even easier to get around on than a bike. Not to mention it goes up steep hills rather quickly, which most of us have trouble with on a bike.

It was intended to change how people travel around cities. We were supposed to see people on Segways instead of in cars, not instead of walking.
Icovir
24-10-2006, 01:49
Please, please, PLEASE cork it.

NO, Mr. Bond. I can speak my opinion.

Early for what?

Early for dying? The usually life expentancy is 77 for males (I think) and 80 for females (I think).

But usually, REALLY fat people die much earlier than that, earlier than 70.

But, my comments are made null now. Because frankly, they were flat our dumb.
New Xero Seven
24-10-2006, 02:34
Segway Polo.


Oh...oh gawd.
Icovir
24-10-2006, 02:36
Oh...oh gawd.

That was what I said when I read that post.
Desperate Measures
24-10-2006, 02:37
It is not the studidest invention, though. This is:
http://www.fridgedoor.com/iniracmosp.html
New Xero Seven
24-10-2006, 02:38
That was what I said when I read that post.

Only in California... haha. :p :rolleyes: :)
Icovir
24-10-2006, 02:41
Only in California... haha. :p :rolleyes: :)

lol, it's sooo true. EAST SIDE!
Vetalia
24-10-2006, 03:03
B/c mabye there is more to life than comfort. Mabye just mabye, it is more important to make a contribution to society than be comfortable. IMHO, comfort just makes you weaker. It deters you from doing the difficult things just so u can have an intangible thing.

That's true. However, I'm talking more about doing stupid things like drugs or eating unhealthily; they might bring you pleasure, but there is nothing but loss in the longer term.

A contribution to society is different; even if you live only a short while because of it, the contributions you make might enhance quality of life and longevity of others for years to come. Sacrificing your life for others is way different than people who sacrifice their quality of life for immediate pleasure; in many ways, altruism can bring a higher quality of life than any other goal.
Icovir
24-10-2006, 03:05
I never thought that there could be such a serious debate over Segways.

I always thought they were just like Marmite: you love them or you hate them.