NationStates Jolt Archive


If you were President of the U.S.A.

Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 03:56
...and were granted emergency powers to do absolutely whatever you want, what would you do?

I would do the following, in no particular order:

1. Repeal the Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act, and all the other neo-fascist, oppressive, unconstitutional acts the Bush Administration has passed.
2. Withdraw all our troops from abroad - including military bases as well as combat theaters.
3. Drastically tighten border security, but make it easier for people to immigrate here legally.
4. Do away with the Electoral College.
5. Do away with the Federal Reserve and IRS and return to the gold standard.
6. Give Native American reservations more autonomy.
7. Give states a greater say in how federal funds are used.
8. De-politicize and fully secularize all education, as well as de-centralize it, leaving it in the hands of state and local governments.
9. Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.
10. Withdraw from the UN, NATO, the WTO, NAFTA, and every international organization and entangling alliance we're currently in. I would then expel all UN diplomats, tear down UN headquarters, and sign a free trade agreement and non-aggression pact with every country in the world.
11. End sanctions against Cuba and other governments. Despicable as their governments may be, sanctions only hurt the people, not their governments. For that matter, I would exchange embassies with Cuba, as well as the few other countries with which we don't have diplomatic relations.
12. All foreign aid programs, whether humanitarian, military, or other, would be ended.
13. No more unconditionally supporting Israel. In fact, no more "supporting" anyone. We would have a neutral foreign policy, friendly to all, hostile to none. All countries would be treated equally, with no special privileges for anyone.
14. All Departments except Defense, State, and Treasury would be abolished.
15. Defense spending would be drastically reduced to a bare minimum, so we would have a military that could adequately defend the nation, but not police the world.
16. All members of the Bush Administration, as well as their accomplices in Congress, would be impeached.
17. The two-party system would be destroyed. Third parties would be given equal footing.
18. The FCC and all censorship laws would be abolished.
19. All subsidies to business would be ended. All tariffs would be repealed.
20. Minimum wage would be abolished.
21. All health and social welfare programs would be turned over to the states, privatized, or eliminated.
22. Gun control laws would be declared null and void.
23. Privacy rights would be vehemently protected.
24. The CIA would be abolished.
25. I would issue a public apology to the world for all the wrongs we have committed.
26. I would buy back the Panama Canal.
27. Student exchange programs would be begun with as many countries as possible, to expose our students and theirs to different cultures, so we could understand others better, and they could better understand us.
28. Deficit spending would be declared unconstitutional.
29. Rather than taxing citizens directly, the states would be taxed, in proportion to their population.
30. All, or nearly all, laws regulating or otherwise hindering businesses would be repealed.
31. Nearly all land belonging to the federal government would be privatized.
32. Private property rights would be vehemently protected.
33. Abortion, marriage, and other social issues would be left solely to the individual states.
New Xero Seven
20-10-2006, 03:57
I'd annex the United States into Canada... :)

Ok, no, I won't do that... but I'd make it a happy place.
Andaluciae
20-10-2006, 03:58
I'd annex Cuba.
Wanderjar
20-10-2006, 03:59
I would undo everything the Bush Administration and the lackys in Congress have done. Then, I would nuke the world! After sending a message to all national leaders:

I pwn j00 N000bzz!


:D
Ultraextreme Sanity
20-10-2006, 03:59
I would get all the BJ's I wanted and declare war on something to keep people worried about other stuff besides my getting laid all the time .
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 03:59
I forgot one:

34. Resign after completing 1-33.
Montacanos
20-10-2006, 04:12
1. Repeal Military Commisions Act
2. Repeal most Patriot Act Provisions
3. Demand investigations into Operation Northwoods
4. Split Federal Highway money by need, no more ties to drinking age
5. Make it so no one but the government may request your SS#
6. Make it illegal for congress to legislate the internet except in crime(fraud etc.)
7. Make signing statements illegal
8. Repeal Income tax- Institute state tax system (publically recorded)
-Remove IRS
-Remove most other Agencies of a non-critical nature
9. Institute a law review to clean out/unclutter outdated or illegal laws.
10. Make President a single 6-year term.
11. Institute heavy tax on out-sourcing.
-End all business subsidies
12. Devote all excess funds to educational grants.
13. Make the growing of hemp legal.
14. Encourage states to individually adopt Social Security and Universal Healthcare
15. Cut military spending 1/3
-Extend basic training
Jefferson Davisonia
20-10-2006, 04:18
seeing as how most of that falls way outside the scope of presidential power i think you mean king.


and go back to the gold standard? what on earth for?
Katurkalurkmurkastan
20-10-2006, 04:20
snip
no self-respecting president does anything useful with emergency powers.

White House kegger maaaaan!
Jefferson Davisonia
20-10-2006, 04:22
grand idea.

make it yuengling
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 04:22
seeing as how most of that falls way outside the scope of presidential power i think you mean king.


and go back to the gold standard? what on earth for?

So we could have stable currency, instead of the worthless pieces of paper shit fiat money we have now.
Minaris
20-10-2006, 04:22
...and were granted emergency powers to do absolutely whatever you want, what would you do?



Undo all the decisions of 2000-200_ and then:

-Destroy the electoral college and the political parties
-Institute a direct election and gov sponsored debates for all candidates
-Make abortion legal on my terms (no conscious fetuses are to be slain, with exceptions)
-Make marriages a ceased legal function (no legal marriage, but you can live with and do anyone you want)
-Institute the staggered 14-16 legality of sex and then apply Chef's philosophy
-Make guns legal
-Labor prisons replace ours
-Big wall of death at border for military purposes (immigrants can still enter)
-get not-oil fuel in circulation (I got a 30-year plan in development)
-Trials for the Bush Admin. (they are 3811 H4X0R5)
-Institute a 4-day schoolweek
-Stop the frivolous lawsuits
-Change the Constitution entirely to make my changes more permanent (work in progress...)


Did I miss anything?

Oh yeah. DRUGS FOR ALL (cept them collateral-damage ones (excluding drunkness))
BAAWAKnights
20-10-2006, 04:23
seeing as how most of that falls way outside the scope of presidential power i think you mean king.


and go back to the gold standard? what on earth for?
To get rid of the inflationary and bullshit fiat monopoly money.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 04:24
To get rid of the inflationary and bullshit fiat monopoly money.

Exactly.

Oh, and I'd make BAAWAKnights my economics advisor.
Jefferson Davisonia
20-10-2006, 04:26
seeing as how the value of gold itself is basically artificial, that doesnt do squat.

gold has no intrinsic value. even tying money to gold you would still have to compare the stock of gold to the available products. the value of money would still fluctuate.

not only that but the supply of money would be less easily regulated. because of the ability to adopt fiscal policy to regulate supply, inflation is easier to combat.

inflation, and cycles of depression and boom still existed when money was tied to gold
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 04:27
Oh, and I would get rid of fractional reserve banking once and for all. In its place would be full reserve banking.
Jefferson Davisonia
20-10-2006, 04:28
you do realize that means no one could borrow ever
Katurkalurkmurkastan
20-10-2006, 04:35
grand idea.

make it yuengling

i was thinking milwaukee's best, if only because a beer tied to a cannon (albeit a beer cannon) is incredibly appropriate. http://www.milbestlight.com/cannon.aspx

how is it that emergency powers cover any of this discussion?
Wilgrove
20-10-2006, 04:36
1. I would cut National Government power by at least 60%.
2. I would cut National Government size at least 60%.
3. I would decentralized the National Government, giving states more power.
4. I would impliment the fair tax program and abolish the IRS.
5. I would tighten up border security and make a 50 feet tall wall between Mexico and the US.
6. I would tell the Middle East (including Israel) that they are on their own, and if they even think of messing with us, then they should be prepare to be turned into glass.
7. I would pass laws making these changes to government size, power, and the tax codes permentant.
8. I would offer incenitive for people, business, and others to use alternative fuels and means of power since I just basically told the Middle East to fuck off.
9. I would form an alliance with China, Japan, and S. Korea to combat the problem with N. Korea.
10. I would withdraw the US from the U.N.
11. I would delcare that the National Government main function is to provide protect abroad (militatry) and at home (police), everything else is either obligatory or should be left to the state.
12. I would pass a new amendment stating that citizens of the US does have a right to privacy.
13. I would force Mayor Daley of Chicago to rebuild Megis Field and for him to pay for it out of his own pocket.
14. I would pass several measures that would protect General Aviation from people like Mayor Daley. The package would be called "Wilgrove's Flight Plan"
15. I will deregulate most the Private Industry and give America a stronger private sector.
16. I will leave medicare, and medicaid up to the private sector.
17. I will have everyone have their own private Social Security account that they are responsible for, not the government.
18. I will ban the "Fairness Doctrine" stating that it violates the first Amendment.
19. I will give the police and militatry more fundings and more man power.
20. Congressmen will have a term limit of 2 terms.
21. Congressmen raise & Salary will be decided by the people in every term election.

That's all I can think of, if I think more I'll add to my post.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
20-10-2006, 04:42
grand idea.

make it yuengling

i was thinking milwaukee's best, if only because a beer tied to a cannon (albeit a beer cannon) is incredibly appropriate. http://www.milbestlight.com/cannon.aspx

how is it that emergency powers cover any of this discussion?
Mega Retard X
20-10-2006, 04:46
...and were granted emergency powers to do absolutely whatever you want, what would you do?

I would do the following, in no particular order:

1. Repeal the Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act, and all the other neo-fascist, oppressive, unconstitutional acts the Bush Administration has passed.
2. Withdraw all our troops from abroad - including military bases as well as combat theaters.
3. Drastically tighten border security, but make it easier for people to immigrate here legally.
4. Do away with the Electoral College.
5. Do away with the Federal Reserve and IRS and return to the gold standard.
6. Give Native American reservations more autonomy.
7. Give states a greater say in how federal funds are used.
8. De-politicize and fully secularize all education, as well as de-centralize it, leaving it in the hands of state and local governments.
9. Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.
10. Withdraw from the UN, NATO, the WTO, NAFTA, and every international organization and entangling alliance we're currently in. I would then expel all UN diplomats, tear down UN headquarters, and sign a free trade agreement and non-aggression pact with every country in the world.
11. End sanctions against Cuba and other governments. Despicable as their governments may be, sanctions only hurt the people, not their governments. For that matter, I would exchange embassies with Cuba, as well as the few other countries with which we don't have diplomatic relations.
12. All foreign aid programs, whether humanitarian, military, or other, would be ended.
13. No more unconditionally supporting Israel. In fact, no more "supporting" anyone. We would have a neutral foreign policy, friendly to all, hostile to none. All countries would be treated equally, with no special privileges for anyone.
14. All Departments except Defense, State, and Treasury would be abolished.
15. Defense spending would be drastically reduced to a bare minimum, so we would have a military that could adequately defend the nation, but not police the world.
16. All members of the Bush Administration, as well as their accomplices in Congress, would be impeached.
17. The two-party system would be destroyed. Third parties would be given equal footing.
18. The FCC and all censorship laws would be abolished.
19. All subsidies to business would be ended. All tariffs would be repealed.
20. Minimum wage would be abolished.
21. All health and social welfare programs would be turned over to the states, privatized, or eliminated.
22. Gun control laws would be declared null and void.
23. Privacy rights would be vehemently protected.
24. The CIA would be abolished.
25. I would issue a public apology to the world for all the wrongs we have committed.
26. I would buy back the Panama Canal.
27. Student exchange programs would be begun with as many countries as possible, to expose our students and theirs to different cultures, so we could understand others better, and they could better understand us.
28. Deficit spending would be declared unconstitutional.
29. Rather than taxing citizens directly, the states would be taxed, in proportion to their population.
30. All, or nearly all, laws regulating or otherwise hindering businesses would be repealed.
31. Nearly all land belonging to the federal government would be privatized.
32. Private property rights would be vehemently protected.
33. Abortion, marriage, and other social issues would be left solely to the individual states.



And so brings the death of America. It is easy to say the people would riot if you tried to do all of that.:rolleyes:
BAAWAKnights
20-10-2006, 04:46
seeing as how the value of gold itself is basically artificial, that doesnt do squat.

gold has no intrinsic value. even tying money to gold you would still have to compare the stock of gold to the available products. the value of money would still fluctuate.
Money would be defined in terms of weight of gold. Creates less impact wrt inflation and cycles, especially since cycles are the result of governmental meddling into the money supply and businesses.
Jefferson Davisonia
20-10-2006, 04:48
yes but again, all that does is tie the value of money to the value of gold. since gold has no intrinsic value, its still arbitrary.
Free shepmagans
20-10-2006, 04:48
I would... oh hell, I'll be honest.

1. Withdrawl all troops not protecting Asian allies to the homeland.(fuck Europe!)

2. Leave NATO, NAFTA, and hire engineers to figure out a way to dump the U.N. building into the sea.

3. Grant emergency funds to the Libertarians.

4. Offer a free trade agreement to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Israel, Iraq, and all non communist nations on the Asian mainland excluding Russia.

5. Offer nukes to Taiwan... publically.

6. Give a nuke to Israel to remove all doubt.

7. Give a nuke to Syria to balence out giving a nuke to Israel

8. Declare the Daily show official "State supported media"

9. Force FOX news and CNN to merge.

10.Declare the EFF absolute ruler of teh intarwebs.
Kinda Sensible people
20-10-2006, 04:50
1. Repeal the MCA and portions of the Patriot Act.
2. Close Guantanomo Bay, and all black sites completely, and charge those prisoners who we had reasonable doubt about with a crime, and give them a fair trial in a public court. The rest would be returned to their place of Residence.
3. Increase funding to schools.
4. Return to Clinton Era tax levels.
5. Place a constitutional cap on the National Debt.
6. Transfer funding from farm subsidies to social security.
7. Secularize the schools.
8. Abolish the Death Penalty.
9. Legalize Marijuanna and other soft drugs.
10. Create a 6 month withdrawal period from the Shia and Sunni portions of Iraq, reinforce Kurdistan, and transfer more troops to Afghanistan.
11. Lean on China to get rid of all aid to North Korea.
12. Begin real, substantial reform to the UN.
13. Abolish the Electoral College
14. Create requirements upon all Welfare recipients that they attempt to find a place of employment or have a good reason to not (I.E. Serious dissability).
15. Fix Medicare.
16. Ammend the Constitution to include a clear Right to Privacy.
17. Sign the Kyoto Protocal
18. Raise the Minimum Wage.
19. Put the 9/11 Commission Suggestions into effect.
20. Require that the American people approve of the pay for congresspeople each year.
21. Change the Pledge of Allegiance to, "I Pledge Allegiance, to Democracy. To human rights, and to a free and equal society. One nation, ruled by reason . With Equality of Opportunity, liberty, and justice for all."
22. Make all Congresspeople wear Clown suits while serving in any capacity of their job.

There are probably others, but these were my first thoughts.
Wilgrove
20-10-2006, 04:51
And so brings the death of America. It is easy to say the people would riot if you tried to do all of that.:rolleyes:

Let's see what you would do as President.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
20-10-2006, 04:52
grand idea.

make it yuengling

i was thinking milwaukee's best, if only because a beer tied to a cannon (albeit a beer cannon) is incredibly appropriate. http://www.milbestlight.com/cannon.aspx

how is it that emergency powers cover any of this discussion?
Simper Fidelis
20-10-2006, 04:53
I forgot one:

34. Resign after completing 1-33.



Thats funny!
BAAWAKnights
20-10-2006, 04:58
yes but again, all that does is tie the value of money to the value of gold. since gold has no intrinsic value, its still arbitrary.
I'm wondering what your point is, since nothing has intrinsic value.
The Holy Ekaj Monarchy
20-10-2006, 05:01
"All tariffs would be repealed"

I have a problem with this one. We HAVE to have tariffs or Honda and all those other crappy foriegn cars companys can sell there stuff here for free then American mony goes over seas to foriegn buisness.

I. I would Raise tarrifs
II. Send Bush to some desert Island
III. Rasie the income tax for the rich
IV. End the "War" in Iraq and Afganistan
VI. Start lower the national deficit of $4,000,000,000,000 by sending out more exports, collecting more taxes.
(Yes I am serious)

I would probably also throw in a law that Dick Chenney is NEVER allowed to use a gun again.:p
Mega Retard X
20-10-2006, 05:05
Let's see what you would do as President.


1. Repeal all Bush Tax cuts
2. Make deficit spending illegal
3. Make Health and Education free for all citizens
4. Give control of the Education system to the PTA who answers to the Feds.
5. Tighten border security
6. Make english the official language
7. Pull out our forces from Europe
8. Change Iraq policy into us defending Iraqs borders and nothing more
9. Require everybody to learn a second language starting in Middle School
10. Require all immigrants to take an ESL class every year for school students and 4 years for adults
11. Legalize weed for medical uses
12. Mandate that all people convicted of non-violent drug offenses be put into government funded rehabilitation centers
13. Ban the far left and far right from holding office
14. Make voting for president by popular vote
15. Arrest and imprison Bill Clinton and George Bush(Both Bushes) for crimes against humanity
16. Make political attack ads illegal and force them to talk about the issues
17. End all relations and Trade with France until reforms are made in Paris
18. Back a South Korean invasion of North Korea and unify Korea
19. End funding to the UN for a brief period and force changes to the corrupt world power
Fat Squirrel
20-10-2006, 05:05
First things first. An ACTUAL separation of church and state. There would be no more mixing of any religion into legislature or politics. *cough* GW *cough*
Jefferson Davisonia
20-10-2006, 05:06
First things first. An ACTUAL separation of church and state. There would be no more mixing of any religion into legislature or politics. *cough* GW *cough*

cough the founding fathers cough
Fat Squirrel
20-10-2006, 05:07
Well yeah, them too.
Free shepmagans
20-10-2006, 05:09
Oh... hold up... I could turn America into a theocracy and have antepenultimate power (God/pope)!

1. America= Holy Christian Empire of the United Colonies of North America.

2. Me = dictator for life.
JuNii
20-10-2006, 05:42
in no particular order.

1. Define civilian hackers and makers of Viruses and Mal-ware terrorists.
2. Create a task force dedicated to patroling the Internet for these specific crimes only. (child preditors, Phishing, Fraud, Identity thieft)
3. Any company found to not outsource jobs will recieve a tax break.
4. Any company found to hire Illegal Aliens will recieve a 20% increase in taxes in the form of penalties for each year that illegal was hired, and for each percentage of Illegal Aliens vrs workforce for that work place (not company en total, thus a franchised store, Wal*mar will be measured by that store, and not the entire chain/company.)
5. Anyone assisting with illegal Aliens entering and harboring them will be classified as assisting terrorist activities, after a fair civil trial and if convicted, all possessions confiscated and sold. proceeds will then be given to the government* and the convicted person shipped to Club Gitmo.
6. Illegal Aliens caught within the boarders will be stripped of all posessions and those posessions sold. proceeds will then be given to the government*, given two sets of plain clothes, and sent back to their nation of origin. if no nation of origin declared, they will then be shipped to a random country where that country will be paid a small fee then that person is left for the government to handle.
7. Anyone providing false ID's. wether it be used for getting into and around inside the country, or to get a teen into a bar, will be classified as assisting terrorist activities and after a civil trial and conviction, will have 50% of all posessions confiscated and those posessions sold. proceeds will then be given to the government*
8. Reorganize INS to be more efficent.
9. Make Same Sex Marriage a State issue. however, limit that to those states. (i.e. if California allows same sex marriages but Nevada doesn't, a same sex couple from Californa who moves to Nevada would not be able to file as a married couple in Nevada.)
10. Create a Federal Education/Work program to get homeless people educated and jobs even if it means relocating them to another state. Anyone signing up and qualifying, will recieve a 5 year tax break but will have to move to where we tell them to move.
11. anyone found guilty of transporting, selling, and partaking of illegal drugs will have all possessions in their name confiscated and sold. proceeds will then be given to the government* if person caught is the responsibility of another, then that person responsible will have 50% of the total wealth confiscated and sold. proceeds will then be given to the government*
12. Taking of Drugs for medicinal purposes will require a licence, renewed every year, and can only be issued by certain doctors who will be investigated by the Federal Government. Should that Doctor be ineligeble, all licenced persons will be notified and given 30 days to get a new licence from another certified Doctor. such certification and licence will be free.
13. with such a licence, the civilian can grow their own drugs provided they do not distribute nor sell any to anyone, even another licenced person. violaters (both providers and recipiants) will be inelligble to renew their licence. this includes second hand smoke.
14. any and all ideas will be taught in school. creationism will be taught, but also ID as well as evolution. the same with Sex Education, they will provide all forms of safe sex practices... even abstinance.
15. The Separation of Church and state will revert to it's original meaning as written by President Jefferson. Meaning if a government worker wants to protray a cross/star of David/crecent...etc in his/her workplace, so be it.
if a civilian wants to put up a Nativity scene on the steps of a Government Building, they will adhere to the size limitation set by legislation and the Government cannot refuse anyone else of putting up any other Religious or non-religous symbols. However all groups must pay for use of Federal property for any activity. That fee can be transferred to any volunteer reguardless of status as long as that fee is paid. i.e. Congressman Bill can pay the useage fee to have the Boy Scouts use Federal land for their activities... as long as the fee is paid.
16. Penalties for any Federal Employee breaking any law will be increased by two steps. Federal Employees need to have the trust and support of the citizens, any betrayal of that trust will be met with severe consequences.
17. Any crimes against Federal Employees will be met with severe Consequences. (Increased penalties by one step.)
18. There will be a Federally Funded News Station. this station will not recieve any funding from outside sources thus will not be competing for adds with other news outlets. however, it will be an free broadcast station that will provide only news via the Government. this station will also be a live feed for any and all government announcments (State of the Union, Messages from the President, House Voting Sessions as well as all Congressional sessions etc...) there will be no editorizing, no pundits, no opinions given. only straight facts for the viewer to interprete and compare with other outlets. Individual States can also utilize this station for their own legislature and State Government use, provided no private firm nor company can dictate programming.
19. the Death Penalty will be reinstated. however only under these terms.
A) two independant investigations will be conducted. one by the state the other by a Federal Department set up to do such investigations. all evidence and transcrips will be required to be held until the time equalling 1 year after Death Sentence is carried out. any evidence of mishandling and the Death Sentence will be reduced to Life. (or release depending on what is uncovered.)
B) After the two investigations, the Sentenced will begin a 10 yr countdown. after 8 years, another investigation by person(s) not connected to prior investigations will be conducted using updated evidence examination procedures. any doubt will reduce the sentence from Death to Life in prisionment. (or release depending on what is uncovered.)
C) Two weeks prior to execution, the victims or their survivors will be given a chance to "Redeem" the prisoner. This will be done in private. They will review the convicts record in prison and if they wish, they can meet with the convicted felon under supervised conditions. if the Victim or the survivors wish, the Death penalty will be reduced to Life in prison. it can be recommended for a shortened punnishment, and that will be taken into account for the felon's next parole hearing.
20. Legalize Prostitution and then bury it in red tape and taxes.

*The proceeds will go into a general fund for all departments to use. Size of this general fund will also determine if tax breaks for all US citizens will be instituted.
Vetalia
20-10-2006, 05:45
Immediately rescind my emergency powers and return to the rule of law.
Dosuun
20-10-2006, 05:50
If I were president of the USA, I'd resign. I don't want to be corrupted by that kind of power. And I hear the job is really stressful.
Zilam
20-10-2006, 06:01
-Drop the Embargo on Cuba, and strengthen ties with Latin America
- Give Puerto Rico one more chance to become a state, and if they refuse, then let them be independent
-Absolutly free education, both primary(k-12) and secondary(uni)
-absolutly free health care
-Send peace keepers to Sudan
-Pull out of Iraq
-legalize marijuana, and tax it.
-declare that gay marriage, abortion, and gun control are state issues.
-move the US Capitol from DC to STL.


Thats all i can think of. But i have a big list of things written down elsewhere..-goes to look for it-
Socks Went Bang
20-10-2006, 06:02
......I'd give the americans a reality check,
get rid of their guns,
and simply show them that Canada kicks ass.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 06:11
-move the US Capitol from DC to STL.

STL?
Zilam
20-10-2006, 06:16
STL?



St Louis
Dosuun
20-10-2006, 06:21
......I'd give the americans a reality check,
get rid of their guns,
and simply show them that Canada kicks ass.
Then you're in favor or stripping away constitutional rights? Well I can't say the same for myself. I also get the feeling that the rest of the nation isn't fond of the idea of restricting freedoms.
Jello Biafra
20-10-2006, 06:53
Eh, I guess I'll be moderate.

1) Establish a legal process for secession, which any individual or group could potentially use.
2) Nationalize healthcare.
3) Make abortions legal at any point up until birth, or c-section.
4) Legalize gay marriage. Married people receive some federal priviledges. Why would the states decide what happens federally?
5) Ban sales taxes.
6) Make the minimum wage a living wage.
7) Require that all states with "3 strikes and you're out" laws also apply them to corporations.
8) Make all education free. This includes things like college, CPR training, and also education in how to properly wield and use a firearm.
9) Close Guantanamo Bay, and any base where prisoners are kept that aren't prisoners of a country that we're at war with. This is to ensure that these prisoners receive the protections of the U.S. Constitution.
10) Urge the U.N. to reform itself by withdrawing veto power from any of the Security Council members. Instead, all decisions must be approved by the majority of the Security Council, in addition to being approved by the majority of the U.N members.
11) Enact term limits for Congresspersons.
12) Urge the states to do the same for their legislatures.
13) Close most loopholes in the tax codes.
14) Make truth in advertising laws stricter.
15) Establish a policy of open-door immigration.
16) Ban at-will employment after a period of 60 days. This would mean that after 60 days, an employee could only be fired for egregious offenses.
17) Require that all private businesses, non-profits, or groups who receive federal money be subject to federal law.
18) End corporate welfare.
19) Make it easier for drug addicts to be sentenced to rehab instead of jail, for serious drugs.
20) a)Make cannabis legal for industrial and medical purposes.
b)Stop enforcing the illegality of cannabis use for recreational purposes, with the exception of things like driving while high.
b2)This would not apply to cannabis use in public.
21) Ban the death penalty.
22) Ban life imprisonment.
23) Establish sentencing for federal crimes to be minimum sentences. This would mean that someone sentenced to 2 years would only get out then for good behavior. Someone with bad behavior would stay longer, depending on the severity of the behavior.
24) Reduce the number of things that people can sue each other over.
25) Establish a nominal federal fee on stock trades. This fee would be applied per share of stock traded.
26) Withdraw from the WTO, CAFTA, and NAFTA.
27) Commit federal funds for the development of alternative fuels.
28) Rescind the law that says only natural-born citizens can be President.

That's all I can think of for now, but there may be more.
Soheran
20-10-2006, 07:40
Assuming I had the support of the majority of the population in all of the below:

1. Repeal Taft-Hartley and all other statist attacks on workers' rights.
2. Legalize gay marriage; move towards the legal recognition of a wide variety of relationships.
3. Add the Equal Rights Amendment; include sexual orientation and gender identity in it.
4. Ban the teaching of intelligent design in schools.
5. Make including serious discussions of homosexuality in sex-ed classes a condition for federal education aid; end abstinence-only.
6. Implement reparations for African-Americans, combining rigorous affirmative action programs with increased social spending to guarantee genuine equality for all.
7. Withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan; apologize to the planet for repeated imperialist aggressions.
8. Abolish the Pledge of Allegiance.
9. Open the borders to immigrants; speed up the citizenship process; permit all "illegals" currently here to become citizens.
10. Adopt Spanish and English as official languages.
11. Expropriate all businesses with more than ten employees; turn them over to a grass-roots network of workers' councils.
12. Use public works and job training programs to end unemployment.
13. Guarantee a living wage to all.
14. Legalize all drugs, but create programs to treat addicts.
15. Legalize prostitution, and put it under the control of the prostitutes.
16. End homelessness by providing cheap housing to the homeless.
17. Decentralize and democratize social programs, putting them directly in the hands of communities.
18. Implement universal health care.
19. Abolish large inheritances.
20. Guarantee abortion rights.
21. Ban employment discrimination by sexual orientation or gender identity.
22. Use 6, 11, 12, 13, and 17 as tools to abolish poverty; if this is insufficient, add more until the objective is accomplished.
23. Rename country the United Socialist States of America
24. Grant statehood to the District of Columbia; rename it after someone better.
25. Implement programs to make the economy sustainable and clean.
26. Aggressively protect animal habitats.
27. Abolish factory farming.
28. Gradually abolish the meat industry entirely.
29. Permit a market for organs.
30. Use US economic power to try to put the major global economic institutions directly in the hands of the workers and the peasants of the world. Globalize economic democracy.
31. End Columbus Day as a national holiday; add International Workers' and Haymarket Martyrs' Day.
32. Move from a statist model of political power to an anarchist federation of workers' councils and communes.
33. Make all education free, period; pay students over eighteen a living wage.
34. Abolish the death penalty.
35. End all the "war on terror" incursions on civil liberties.
36. Abolish most of the military; replace it with a national militia program under grass-roots democratic control.
37. Grant euthanasia rights to all adults.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 08:30
10. Adopt Spanish and English as official languages.

Why Spanish?
Soheran
20-10-2006, 08:33
Why Spanish?

Because we have a growing Spanish-speaking population, and there's no reason to believe that that will stop anytime soon.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 08:33
3) Make abortions legal at any point up until birth, or c-section.

Why? if a woman is stupid enough to wait so long to have an abortion, that's her own damn fault.

15) Establish a policy of open-door immigration.

Define "open-door."

22) Ban life imprisonment.

What about criminals who absolutely cannot be reformed?


NOTE: These are not meant to be criticisms or put-downs of your policies, just inquiries.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 08:35
Because we have a growing Spanish-speaking population, and there's no reason to believe that that will stop anytime soon.

Many of them are illegal immigrants. And the majority of native-born Americans speak English. I don't see why we should have to adopt another language to accomodate them. Frankly, if a person wants to immigrate elsewhere, he should learn the language of that country. If I were to move to France, I wouldn't expect French people to learn my language; I'd learn theirs.
Soheran
20-10-2006, 08:39
Many of them are illegal immigrants.

So? All of those should be permitted to become citizens, and millions more should be permitted to come.

And the majority of native-born Americans speak English.

Let them. (But teach Spanish in the schools.)

I don't see why we should have to adopt another language to accomodate them.

Why not? It makes it easier for them, and isn't that much of a hardship for us.

Frankly, if a person wants to immigrate elsewhere, he should learn the language of that country. If I were to move to France, I wouldn't expect French people to learn my language; I'd learn theirs.

And they'll learn English. But why not give Spanish equal status, with such a high number of speakers?
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 08:45
*snip*

If someone moves to another country, and they're too lazy to adopt the native language, that is, quite frankly, their own problem.
Free Soviets
20-10-2006, 08:48
...

more or less what he said
Soheran
20-10-2006, 09:01
If someone moves to another country, and they're too lazy to adopt the native language, that is, quite frankly, their own problem.

Freedom of movement is not a privilege, but a right.

Because borders shouldn't even exist in the first place, adding extra and unnecessary hardships to the process of immigration is unjust.
The Lone Alliance
20-10-2006, 09:05
1.Patriot Act, Military Comissions act.
2. Remove the Electorial College
3. Products made using unethical labor would be taxed.
4. Same with outsourcing.
5. Bring up charges of the entire Bush Adminstration, the leading powers in Haburtian, Exxon, and a few other companies and have their put on trial for
TREASON.
6. Build electric\Cement fence near Mexico.
7.Pull out of Shitte\Sunni Iraq, reconigze Northern Iraq as the country of Kurdistan.
8. Pull most forces out of England to give them a break.
9. Repair relations with France.
10.End restrictions against Cuba.
11 Tell Chavez, if he's still ranting, that Bush is gone so shut up.
12And rebuild relations with Latin America.
13. Cut the debt charges for 3rd world nations.
14. Take a less active Role in the UN.
15. Set a Maxmium wage ruling
16. Those who go over Maxmium gets extra taxes that are not able to be written off.
17. Suspend housing in locations without infanstructure.
(A county of subdivisions only would be no more)
18. "No Child left behind" act to be replaced with "Every child should know how to survive" act.
19. Religion will have no place in schooling.
20. Close all relations with the Middle East Theocracy countries. Open relations with Middle Eastern nations with more secular governments (No Saudi no Pakastain, Yes Lebanon)
21. Those on death row are given a choice between a Cyniade pill or firing squad.
22. For those in which they're guilt is +96% of accuracy. There will only be 1 appeal.
23.Eminent Domain would be cut out except for extremely critical reasons.
24.Socialized Drug production to provide competition.

And I have more to go on...
Jello Biafra
20-10-2006, 09:21
Why? if a woman is stupid enough to wait so long to have an abortion, that's her own damn fault.At no point should she be an incubator.

Define "open-door."As though there is no border.

What about criminals who absolutely cannot be reformed?Most likely they will do something in jail that would get them additional years; nonetheless, life imprisonment is a disincentive to wanting to be reformed.
Saxnot
20-10-2006, 09:54
"If I were the president... of this land... oh I'd declare... total war... on the Pusher Man!":D
Dixie State
20-10-2006, 11:06
I would, as president, change the following;

1. Recall all American military forces world wide and close the bases.
2. Leave the U.N.
3. Leave NATO.
4. Close all borders.
4. Turn America into a two party government, bar the Republican and Democratic party from government.
5. Lower taxes.
5. Ban oil and other gases in steps and turn America into an eco nation.
6. In agreement with other nuclear nations damage all mass destruction armes so to make them useless.
7. Give more power to state governments.
8. Kill all prisoners for even the smallest of crimes from ages 18 and up. Death by hanging.
9. Make the military into a defence only armed unit, thats to say only go to war if attacked by foreign nation(s) but only if talks lead to nothing. Never join a war that an "ally" is in.
Risottia
20-10-2006, 11:27
...and were granted emergency powers to do absolutely whatever you want, what would you do?

I would do the following, in no particular order:

1. Repeal the Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act, and all the other neo-fascist, oppressive, unconstitutional acts the Bush Administration has passed.
2. Withdraw all our troops from abroad - including military bases as well as combat theaters.
3. Drastically tighten border security, but make it easier for people to immigrate here legally.
4. Do away with the Electoral College.
5. Do away with the Federal Reserve and IRS and return to the gold standard.
6. Give Native American reservations more autonomy.
7. Give states a greater say in how federal funds are used.
8. De-politicize and fully secularize all education, as well as de-centralize it, leaving it in the hands of state and local governments.
9. Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.
10. Withdraw from the UN, NATO, the WTO, NAFTA, and every international organization and entangling alliance we're currently in. I would then expel all UN diplomats, tear down UN headquarters, and sign a free trade agreement and non-aggression pact with every country in the world.
11. End sanctions against Cuba and other governments. Despicable as their governments may be, sanctions only hurt the people, not their governments. For that matter, I would exchange embassies with Cuba, as well as the few other countries with which we don't have diplomatic relations.
12. All foreign aid programs, whether humanitarian, military, or other, would be ended.
13. No more unconditionally supporting Israel. In fact, no more "supporting" anyone. We would have a neutral foreign policy, friendly to all, hostile to none. All countries would be treated equally, with no special privileges for anyone.
14. All Departments except Defense, State, and Treasury would be abolished.
15. Defense spending would be drastically reduced to a bare minimum, so we would have a military that could adequately defend the nation, but not police the world.
16. All members of the Bush Administration, as well as their accomplices in Congress, would be impeached.
17. The two-party system would be destroyed. Third parties would be given equal footing.
18. The FCC and all censorship laws would be abolished.
19. All subsidies to business would be ended. All tariffs would be repealed.
20. Minimum wage would be abolished.
21. All health and social welfare programs would be turned over to the states, privatized, or eliminated.
22. Gun control laws would be declared null and void.
23. Privacy rights would be vehemently protected.
24. The CIA would be abolished.
25. I would issue a public apology to the world for all the wrongs we have committed.
26. I would buy back the Panama Canal.
27. Student exchange programs would be begun with as many countries as possible, to expose our students and theirs to different cultures, so we could understand others better, and they could better understand us.
28. Deficit spending would be declared unconstitutional.
29. Rather than taxing citizens directly, the states would be taxed, in proportion to their population.
30. All, or nearly all, laws regulating or otherwise hindering businesses would be repealed.
31. Nearly all land belonging to the federal government would be privatized.
32. Private property rights would be vehemently protected.
33. Abortion, marriage, and other social issues would be left solely to the individual states.

1,2,3,6,10,11,12,13,15,16,17,19,23,25,27,28 - thumbs up!:)
5,7,14,20,22,30,33 - thumbs down:(

I'd say there are good chances I'd be voting for you... if I could vote for the US president - but I can't.
Gorias
20-10-2006, 11:34
i'd force people to excerise two hours a day(walking does not count) and force people to read read european newspapers.
Jwp-serbu
20-10-2006, 12:52
think i'd deport all democrats to africa lol
Darknovae
20-10-2006, 13:00
think i'd deport all democrats to africa lol

Send hte Republicans with 'em. :)
King Bodacious
20-10-2006, 14:38
If I were Mr. President, I would do the following:
1. Re-strategize the Iraq War and have a new plan for the exit strategy. I would send a lot more troops in to secure the borders mainly with Iran and Syria to keep their insurgents and extremists out. Finish the Job quickly.
2. After my exit strategy works successfully in Iraq. I would move our troops around and bring most back Home. I would close our base in Germany. A lot of troops would remain in South Korea until we determined the best way to rid N. Korea of the Nukes. I would also give Iran a stern warning of the consequences of them continuing the Nuke programs.
3. I would immediately withdraw from the UN including all funds and would personally hand them the eviction notice.
4. I would station our Troops around our border to secure it for once and for all.
5. I would have a complete Over Haul of the way the Government does its job.
6. Reform the Education system and pay top quality teachers a much higher salary.
7. Reform Immigration to due a much more extensive background check.
8. I would have a special department to oversee all current laws of every level review and to locate the loopholes and nonsense laws starting at the Federal level.
9. Reform the Judicial system. To not support the frivilous lawsuits. To use common sense when presiding over cases.
10. I would eliminate the Special Interest and Lobbyist Groups of interfering and bribing our Politicians and have extensive fines with possible jail times pending on each case.
11. I would pass an Embargo against Iran, N. Korea, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and last but not least France. I would also see to strict enforcements and penalties there of.
12. I would see that strict penalties for convicted Child Molesters and Predators to include the Death Penalty for the more severe cases and Life Imprisonment for the less severe cases are strictly enforced. Would put into consideration the possibility of consensual cases for people within 2 yrs of age.
13. Strictly enforce the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act.
14. Would review and Reform our Tax system to have the American People taxed only once which would come from the paychecks which would mean if elimating all of the other taxes would mean a substantial decrease in taxes so the tax out of the paychecks would need to be increased to sufficiently run our Nation.
15. I would open up our oil caps in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska to be less dependant on other foreign nations.
16. Complete Reform and Overhaul of our Foreign Policy.
17. I would continue the Death Penalty at the Federal Level and to reduce the costs there of. Death Penalty by hanging or firing squad.
18. and so much more........:D

NOTE: this is NOT necessarily the order in which I would act.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 16:34
Freedom of movement is not a privilege, but a right.

Because borders shouldn't even exist in the first place, adding extra and unnecessary hardships to the process of immigration is unjust.

"Extra and unnecessary hardship?" And what's unjust about having them learn the native language?
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 16:36
At no point should she be an incubator.

Killing a baby when it's capable of surviving outside the womb is, put simply, murder.

As though there is no border.

Smart. Then all sorts of creeps can come in. There's a reason for borders, you know.

Most likely they will do something in jail that would get them additional years; nonetheless, life imprisonment is a disincentive to wanting to be reformed.

Some people can't be reformed.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 16:40
11. I would pass an Embargo against Iran, N. Korea, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and last but not least France. I would also see to strict enforcements and penalties there of.

LOL, why France?
King Bodacious
20-10-2006, 16:43
LOL, why France?

Well, typically, the only time I'm prejudice, is only against evil and bad people. With France though, it just felt right to include them.....:D no specific reasons just for personal reasons.....:p

No worries, I don't plan on running for the President. President is always the blame guy no matter how much the Senate and House screws up or even the Judiciary or Law Enforcement or anything in this world that's bad will be blamed on the US President no matter who is in office.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 16:44
Well, typically, the only time I'm prejudice, is only against evil and bad people. With France though, it just felt right to include them.....:D no specific reasons just for personal reasons.....:p

I see.
Beddgelert
20-10-2006, 16:50
Assuming that I could resist saying, "To all you republicans that helped me to win, I'd sincerely like to thank you..." I'd probably start with, "Right, before anyone goes crazy and carries out the barest of background checks, I'm happy to announce that it is now totally legal and constitutional and what have you that a foreign citizen become President of these United States, and weild these emergency powers." and follow it up with a hearty declaration of, "All power to the Soviets!" and then a few lines of the Red Flag and a merry resignation. And maybe a fist to the sky, depending on just how drunk I'd got during the vote counting. Well, if I won, somebody was clearly tipsy.
Greyenivol Colony
20-10-2006, 17:47
i was thinking milwaukee's best, if only because a beer tied to a cannon (albeit a beer cannon) is incredibly appropriate. http://www.milbestlight.com/cannon.aspx

how is it that emergency powers cover any of this discussion?

I followed that link and was taken to a site that asked me for my date of birth (23/09/87... although dd/mm had to be reversed). I typed it in and was told I was too young.

I hate America...
Farnhamia
20-10-2006, 18:13
...and were granted emergency powers to do absolutely whatever you want, what would you do?

I would do the following, in no particular order:

...

.

You might want to check your steering, Congo, you're veering a bit to the right. What you propose would be the end of the United States. I'm not sure what would follow, but it wouldn't be any country I would want to live in.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 18:16
You might want to check your steering, Congo, you're veering a bit to the right. What you propose would be the end of the United States. I'm not sure what would follow, but it wouldn't be any country I would want to live in.

I would also give the military orders: The first hint of corruption or abuse of power you see, stage a coup. No questions asked.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-10-2006, 18:17
I hate America...

In Soviet Russia, America hates you! :p
Avika
20-10-2006, 18:40
1. Bill of rights means bill of rights. If it doesn't involve Federal Law, the national government should not get involved. Also, let every sane person have a gun. The whole purpose of amendment #2 was for the citizens to have a way to protect themselves in case the British come back and institute complete control over the entire US again. Hell, let everyone who can afford it get an Abrams tank too. Maybe a Challenger or a Sherman. Maybe. No Panzers. Have to draw the line somewhere.

2. Although neither Democrats nor Republicans would be thrilled, let everyone know just how the tax money is being spent. Send some poor kids to school so they can get a freak'n job, okay. But once you send them to colleges for free when I have to work my ass off and get into a huge debt just to take the classes, you've gone too far.

3. If I were allowed to do so, I would try to repair the electoral college through an amendment. The people in each state would vote on who the state's votes would go to. That way, big states, like Commiefornia, can't take away any control smaller states, like Nevada, have over the nation.

4. I would get the Iraqi government strong. If the Soviets taught us anything, it's that immediate withdrawels have severe consequences.
Jello Biafra
21-10-2006, 13:28
Killing a baby when it's capable of surviving outside the womb is, put simply, murder.There isn't any baby, it's a fetus.
Additionally, it's perfectly acceptable to defend yourself from an attack, which is what the fetus does.

Smart. Then all sorts of creeps can come in. There's a reason for borders, you know.Yes, to determine the area that laws legally have an effect on.

Some people can't be reformed.How do we determine which people these are without trying?
Icovir
21-10-2006, 13:32
Quite simple:

Stop using so much funds for the war, and instead help education, health care, economy, etc.

Not tighter border control, but lighten border secruity a little (hey, those illegals help our economy, you know!)

Abolish the Electoral College (it was formed when the US was small and the foudning fathers thought that we couldn'treally think for ourselves)

Actually have an EXIT strategy for Iraq, and not keep postponing the "exit" (first it was earlier this year, now it's 2010).
Minaris
21-10-2006, 13:34
Send hte Republicans with 'em. :)

And throw Mel Gibson and Tom Cruise in there.

Just to piss them all off/maker them go insane. :)
Icovir
21-10-2006, 13:35
And throw Mel Gibson and Tom Cruise in there.


That, my friend, increased by respect for you ten-fold.
Minaris
21-10-2006, 13:58
That, my friend, increased by respect for you ten-fold.

Imagine that actually occuring though.

The resulting antics of the politicians could be sold on pay-per-view. :cool:
Undershi
22-10-2006, 03:08
Well, if I was president of the U.S. of A., with full emergency powers, what I'd do is:

- Shift energy production to nuclear power plants, not oil or coal.
- Have Ann Coulter arrested
- Have Bill O'Reily arrested
- Have every other ultra-conservative idealogue I haven't named arrested
- Begin massive production of ethanol for use in cars (it can already be done!)
- Raise taxes on the rich, corporations and yes, on the rest of society as well - although not as extremely.
- Use that money to end the deficit, fix Social Security, establish a National Healthcare system and improve the educational system (at least in reguards to math, science, English courses and Foreign Language courses - I'd discourage the study of history and the social sciences because I'd be a freaking tyrant and wouldn't want the people to know enough about how things were to complain).
- Abolish all tarifs and trade barriers, and encourage all other nations to do the same
- Make self President for Life.
- Appoint almost all my relatives to high positions
- Slowly become corrupt, eventually ending up as some sort of monstrous American version of Saddam Hussein's sons. (What? At least I'm honest... that's what would happen to anyone given that much power.)
Trandonor
22-10-2006, 03:16
First thing I'd do would be to ask how the hell a guy from Cornwall just became President of the US.

Then I'd scarper.