NationStates Jolt Archive

So, Ladies and Gentlemen, it has begun.

Wars escalate in the Middle East which the world's Hyperpower cannot control. The Arabian nations draw ever further away from the rest of the world - paranoia, mistrust and anger grows. Young people, tired of the state we have turned our "civilisation" into, turn to radical means, bypassing our fragmenting democracies and resort to terrorism.

In the Far East, an Arms Race has begun - those with Atomic Weapons display them with all their might, those without see no other way than to build up their own stocks.

A communist state, rushing headlong to superpower status, neglects the freedoms and rights granted to so many gladly throughout Modern History.

The world's Hyperpower activates and clears the airspace over its missile silos.

The United Nations sits, waiting, helpless, for it to begin.

China. North Korea. Japan. Iran. Iraq. South Korea. The United States. The European Union.

It is coming, my friends. It will be far worse than the first, for the states on the far side of this Iron Curtain do not fear the results of their actions. The Second Cold War is coming - and there is precious little we can do about it.

So, Ladies and Gentlemen, it has begun.

Wars escalate in the Middle East which the world's Hyperpower cannot control. The Arabian nations draw ever further away from the rest of the world - paranoia, mistrust and anger grows. Young people, tired of the state we have turned our "civilisation" into, turn to radical means, bypassing our fragmenting democracies and resort to terrorism.

In the Far East, an Arms Race has begun - those with Atomic Weapons display them with all their might, those without see no other way than to build up their own stocks.

A communist state, rushing headlong to superpower status, neglects the freedoms and rights granted to so many gladly throughout Modern History.

The world's Hyperpower activates and clears the airspace over its missile silos.

The United Nations sits, waiting, helpless, for it to begin.

China. North Korea. Japan. Iran. Iraq. South Korea. The United States. The European Union.

It is coming, my friends. It will be far worse than the first, for the states on the far side of this Iron Curtain do not fear the results of their actions. The Second Cold War is coming - and there is precious little we can do about it.

China is communist as much as Korea is democratic (remember Korea's full name).
Rest of your post is just as silly.

Perhaps you mean WWIII... that is more likely.

Everyone always knew that WWIII would be nuclear... :(

Perhaps you mean WWIII... that is more likely.

Everyone always knew that WWIII would be nuclear... :(

You mean nucular ... :eek: ... *runs away*

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the world only really faces a threat from religous extremists. Thugs like Kim Jong Il have a vested interest in rattling the saber, but not actually using it. they are far better off posing and posturing, threatening and keeping their people "safe" than by actually starting a war.

That’s great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, don’t misserve your own needs. Feed it up a knock,

speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn’t coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it’ll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves it's
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Six o’clock - TV hour. Don’t get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,
return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,
blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,
light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,
this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
and I decline.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.



The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mountains sit in a line.
Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,
slam, but neck, right? Right.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...fine...

(It’s time I had some time alone)

Oh yes, there will be a grand Apocalypse, I for one consider this a career option, I've always wanted to be the Road Warrior. Always. So I'm counting on this! :D

Pity. I bet on humanity's extinction occurring in about a thousand years. Ah well. No second Christmas for me.

the world only really faces a threat from religous extremists. Thugs like Kim Jong Il have a vested interest in rattling the saber, but not actually using it. they are far better off posing and posturing, threatening and keeping their people "safe" than by actually starting a war.
Not really, even Muslim extremists only kill about 5,000 people in a really bad year. Governments tend to be much more deadly.

The greatest threats of all are being orchestrated by all of us. Global warming may engulf us in conditions we can't handle, and reckless resource consumption may instigate resource wars and famine.

I'm not sure if humanity has been through anything like this before. In my opinion Judgement day will probably occur in the next thousand years.

So, Ladies and Gentlemen, it has begun.

Wars escalate in the Middle East which the world's Hyperpower cannot control. The Arabian nations draw ever further away from the rest of the world - paranoia, mistrust and anger grows. Young people, tired of the state we have turned our "civilisation" into, turn to radical means, bypassing our fragmenting democracies and resort to terrorism.

In the Far East, an Arms Race has begun - those with Atomic Weapons display them with all their might, those without see no other way than to build up their own stocks.

A communist state, rushing headlong to superpower status, neglects the freedoms and rights granted to so many gladly throughout Modern History.

The world's Hyperpower activates and clears the airspace over its missile silos.

The United Nations sits, waiting, helpless, for it to begin.

China. North Korea. Japan. Iran. Iraq. South Korea. The United States. The European Union.

It is coming, my friends. It will be far worse than the first, for the states on the far side of this Iron Curtain do not fear the results of their actions. The Second Cold War is coming - and there is precious little we can do about it.

you do realise the situation is not worse than most times throughout history right? only this time we have radios and nuclear bombs... so what? everything will go boom as it always does and it will emerge again from the ashes;) ...
and i can't say it would be a bad thing if it didn't... if we cannot keep together enough as a species to survive then we do not deserve to... :)

Not really, even Muslim extremists only kill about 5,000 people in a really bad year. Governments tend to be much more deadly.

And heart disease is more deadly than all the governments in the world combined. Your point?

This thread is incomplete without a discussion about the comptetition for the world's dwindling energy supplies. It is what this is all about afterall...

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That’s great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, don’t misserve your own needs. Feed it up a knock,

speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn’t coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it’ll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves it's
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Six o’clock - TV hour. Don’t get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,
return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,
blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,
light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,
this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
and I decline.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.



The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mountains sit in a line.
Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,
slam, but neck, right? Right.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...fine...

(It’s time I had some time alone)

As Tom Lehrer said,

If any songs are gonna come out of World War III, we'd better start writing them now. I have one here. Might call it a bit of pre-nostalgia.

This is the song that some of the boys sang as they went bravely off to World War III:

So long, mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But while you swelter
Down there in your shelter
You can see me
On your TV.

While we're attacking frontally
Watch Brinkally and Huntally**
Describing contrapuntally
The cities we have lost.
No need for you to miss a minute of the agonizing holocaust. Yeah!

Little Johnny Jones, he was a US pilot,
And no shrinking violet was he.
He was mighty proud when World War III was declared.
He wasn't scared, no siree!

And this is what he said on
His way to Armageddon:

So long, mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But though I may roam,
I'll come back to my home
Although it may be
A pile of debris.

Remember, mommy,
I'm off to get a commie,
So send me a salami
And try to smile somehow.
I'll look for you when the war is over,
An hour and a half from now!

Of course, you really need to hear the song and the jaunty melody together.

Well, pretty much anything in the next 20-30 years will be devoted to managing the world's energy and infrastructure needs in the face of peak oil/natural gas.

I would say the first 10 years or so post-peak are going to be critical because that's the time when we're really not going to be able to mitigate the decline beyond initial measures and the overall situation will be one of economic rationing; this is the time that will be most likely to have war or other conflicts over energy, and the one that is most dangerous to our society and economy.

Now, if we survive the first 10 years or so without conflict, the situation will stabilize and the probability of war will be less and less. Once a transition to a renewable/nuclear energy system is complete, the chance of war will probably be no different than it was in the period before the peak.

It's all going to hell, how grand

Well, pretty much anything in the next 20-30 years will be devoted to managing the world's energy and infrastructure needs in the face of peak oil/natural gas.

I would say the first 10 years or so post-peak are going to be critical because that's the time when we're really not going to be able to mitigate the decline beyond initial measures and the overall situation will be one of economic rationing; this is the time that will be most likely to have war or other conflicts over energy, and the one that is most dangerous to our society and economy.

Now, if we survive the first 10 years or so without conflict, the situation will stabilize and the probability of war will be less and less. Once a transition to a renewable/nuclear energy system is complete, the chance of war will probably be no different than it was in the period before the peak.

So long as we don't also collide with water scarcity, food production problems, industrial material scarcity, global warming related population migration problems, etc...

So long as we don't also collide with water scarcity, food production problems, industrial material scarcity, global warming related population migration problems, etc...

And those are the next big challenges. However, I think it just gets too difficult to really predict what will happen in regard to the other limits to growth in the next century; this is the critical century to industrial civilization in many ways, but we still need more time to see what exactly will happen in regard to these problems.

I think if we can survive peak oil/gas, we can deal with these problems because it will produce a change in ideas regarding the nature of growth and sustainability; we might end up greatly reducing the challenges of global warming and water depletion if the programs instituted during the peak are maintained and expanded after it.

Yes, the future is bleak.

Yes, the future is bleak.

Bleak, yes, but also an opportunity. If we put the effort in to solving these problems, we can build a better world even though the immediate hardships are daunting. The only way we will fail at solving these problems is if we give up.

Bleak, yes, but also an opportunity. If we put the effort in to solving these problems, we can build a better world even though the immediate hardships are daunting. The only way we will fail at solving these problems is if we give up.

LOL

LOL

Hey, I didn't say it was likely, just possible. :p

A Tom Lehrer song, Farnhamia? I think I'm falling in love with you.

;)

Bleak, yes, but also an opportunity. If we put the effort in to solving these problems, we can build a better world even though the immediate hardships are daunting. The only way we will fail at solving these problems is if we give up.

Or we can fail by making no real progress until its too late.

A Tom Lehrer song, Farnhamia? I think I'm falling in love with you.

;)

Or we can fail by making no real progress until its too late.

Gosh ... :p ... and Tom Lehrer is always topical, I find.

And yeah, what's that old saw about either lighting a candle or cursing the darkness? I prefer the former.

for goodness sakes the EU is not a country

Bleak, yes, but also an opportunity. If we put the effort in to solving these problems, we can build a better world even though the immediate hardships are daunting.

How would you solve them?

How would you solve them?Well.. The Us has a great big supply of really nasty weapons. They're pretty much pointed at everyone already, so simply turning one or two against themselves would be enough.

Then the US could loudly proclaim that it'll fire off the lot if even a single country on the planet doesn't immediately adopt the plans outlined in the WEO 2006.

Fix the world or snuff it out immediately. Seems like a pretty good motivator.

China is communist as much as Korea is democratic (remember Korea's full name).
Rest of your post is just as silly.

China is Communist. They have Special Economic Zones, allowing regulated Capitalism, but it is still very much a Red state.

However, its rapidly becoming more and more Socialist....