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Of Sex and Society

Seangoli
18-10-2006, 10:35
Now, call me crazy, but am alone in the world when thinking that "sex for sex sake" is pointless? It seems to drive my roommates obsessed, and I really am indifferent towards having sex. Out of the five of us, I am the only virgin in the house, and I get constant criticism from them for it. Yet, their behavior towards women is absolutely disgusting to me. Their view towards women and sex is something of an object. I find such behavior absolutely disgusting.

So, the question here is: Am I crazy for not giving a damn about sex? What is it with our society that seems so engrossed with sexuality?
Pure Metal
18-10-2006, 10:40
i guess there's a balance between having sex for fun (because it is;)) and glorifying sex and objectifying women.
i certainly didn't give a shit about sex till i lost my virginity and found out what all the fuss was about. but still, if the sex was taken away i wouldn't go apeshit over it *shrugs*

i guess some people just take it too far. for the most part, a 'sex is fun' attitude can be healthy given the right precautions (though personally i really dislike the idea of one-night-stands... just not for me... but 'fun sex' can also be in a relationship of course :))
NERVUN
18-10-2006, 10:42
No, you're not crazy at all and I have no idea what's with our society right now, though I wish it would stop.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 10:42
Now, call me crazy, but am alone in the world when thinking that "sex for sex sake" is pointless? It seems to drive my roommates obsessed, and I really am indifferent towards having sex. Out of the five of us, I am the only virgin in the house, and I get constant criticism from them for it. Yet, their behavior towards women is absolutely disgusting to me. Their view towards women and sex is something of an object. I find such behavior absolutely disgusting.

So, the question here is: Am I crazy for not giving a damn about sex? What is it with our society that seems so engrossed with sexuality?

I've been wondering that for years. Just think of the inanity of differentiating between groups of people based on who they want to have sex with and labeling these groups accordingly. Then forming political action groups that lobby government based on their opinions of whch group is better. Then they have parades celebrating their decision to prefer having sex with certain people. Meanwhile, a small group of lunatics believe that God is punishing us all because one of these groups of people have the wrong kind of sex and we don't treat them badly enough because of it.

Yet I'M the lunatic! :confused: ;)
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 10:50
i guess there's a balance between having sex for fun (because it is;)) and glorifying sex and objectifying women.
i certainly didn't give a shit about sex till i lost my virginity and found out what all the fuss was about. but still, if the sex was taken away i wouldn't go apeshit over it *shrugs*

i guess some people just take it too far. for the most part, a 'sex is fun' attitude can be healthy given the right precautions (though personally i really dislike the idea of one-night-stands... just not for me... but 'fun sex' can also be in a relationship of course :))

Well, what pisses me off the most is that I see my roommates(and all of the people in my general peer group) get wasted, hit on wasted girls(whom usually are to the point of not knowing what the hell is going on), have sex with wasted girls, and then brag about it the next morning. Mean while the girls talk about how "sweet" and "nice" these douches are, and seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the only reason why they are is so they themselves can get laid. And if a girl doesn't show any "prospect" for sex, then they move on to the next one.

Meanwhile, I'm just looking for a freakin girl will actually consider a relationship with me(The pool is shallow for people who are into politics, academics, and actually being a nice guy). That's the part that really pisses me off. Girls always talk about looking for a "nice" and "smart" guy. Bull.

Hmm... I have a lot of penned up rage, me thinks.
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 10:52
I've been wondering that for years. Just think of the inanity of differentiating between groups of people based on who they want to have sex with and labeling these groups accordingly. Then forming political action groups that lobby government based on their opinions of whch group is better. Then they have parades celebrating their decision to prefer having sex with certain people. Meanwhile, a small group of lunatics believe that God is punishing us all because one of these groups of people have the wrong kind of sex and we don't treat them badly enough because of it.

Yet I'M the lunatic! :confused: ;)

As far as Homosexuality is concerned:

Great. Whatever. I don't give a damn. Two people can go have sex for all I care, as long as they both are legal consenting adults(Screw you NAMBLA!). I just don't really want to hear about it. There are more important things to do with my time. :/

There's the rage again.

Also, you are a Goofball... thus it's a double-whammy for ya. ;)
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 10:54
Well, what pisses me off the most is that I see my roommates(and all of the people in my general peer group) get wasted, hit on wasted girls(whom usually are to the point of not knowing what the hell is going on), have sex with wasted girls, and then brag about it the next morning. Mean while the girls talk about how "sweet" and "nice" these douches are, and seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the only reason why they are is so they themselves can get laid. And if a girl doesn't show any "prospect" for sex, then they move on to the next one.

Meanwhile, I'm just looking for a freakin girl will actually consider a relationship with me(The pool is shallow for people who are into politics, academics, and actually being a nice guy). That's the part that really pisses me off. Girls always talk about looking for a "nice" and "smart" guy. Bull.

Hmm... I have a lot of penned up rage, me thinks.

You really need to get laid! :p

Just kidding. Do your on thing. Let them do their own thing, catch their diseases, be accused of rape, knock some girl up and destroy their lives.

Don't sweat the sex.
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 10:55
You really need to get laid! :p

Just kidding. Do your on thing. Let them do their own thing, catch their diseases, be accused of rape, knock some girl up and destroy their lives.

Don't sweat the sex.

It's not the sex that bothers me really, it's the attitudes towards sex. I'm just really getting tired of getting all the guff and no respect whatsoever for being a virgin, really. It's quite tiresome.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 10:57
As far as Homosexuality is concerned:

Great. Whatever. I don't give a damn. Two people can go have sex for all I care, as long as they both are legal consenting adults(Screw you NAMBLA!). I just don't really want to hear about it. There are more important things to do with my time. :/

There's the rage again.

Also, you are a Goofball... thus it's a double-whammy for ya. ;)

Sexual preference is just one example. When you factor in abortion, sodomy laws, anti-pornography laws, anti-indecency laws, etc. You begin to see just how absolutely obsessed people are about eachother's sex lives. Why can't people just boink? Why do they have to spend so much of their days worrying about who or what I boink? :p
Gorias
18-10-2006, 10:58
the attitude towards annoys me too. i hate it when people brag about thier adventures, unless its a funny story. i personily prefere one woman for a few years, than a few women in one year. i'm paranoid about diseases. also the longer you are with a woman, the funnier shit you can get away with.:p
also people remember the function of sex, expression of love and excerise.:fluffle:
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 10:59
It's not the sex that bothers me really, it's the attitudes towards sex. I'm just really getting tired of getting all the guff and no respect whatsoever for being a virgin, really. It's quite tiresome.

Factor in the sources. If you have so much contempt for their attitudes toward sex, does their opinion really affect you so much?

ALso remember that it cuts both ways.
The Blaatschapen
18-10-2006, 10:59
Sexual preference is just one example. When you factor in abortion, sodomy laws, anti-pornography laws, anti-indecency laws, etc. You begin to see just how absolutely obsessed people are about eachother's sex lives. Why can't people just boink? Why do they have to spend so much of their days worrying about who or what I boink? :p

Well said fellow boinker :)
Compulsive Depression
18-10-2006, 11:02
It's not the sex that bothers me really, it's the attitudes towards sex. I'm just really getting tired of getting all the guff and no respect whatsoever for being a virgin, really. It's quite tiresome.
You should get more respect for being a virgin than you give your flatmates for not being?

Everyone gets far too worked up about sex. It is neither a) the greatest achievement possible for humankind or b) a tool of the daemonic agents out to get us. It's just... Sex. Take a deep breath and have a nice cup of tea, people!
Similization
18-10-2006, 11:03
Now, call me crazyAlright, crazy person.

but am alone in the world when thinking that "sex for sex sake" is pointless?Probably not, and since you're a virgin I can even understand it. At some point though, you'll find out that consensual sex between equal partners (none of that misogynistic shit) is one of the better things in life. Even when it isn't anything more than just sex.

It seems to drive my roommates obsessed, and I really am indifferent towards having sex. Out of the five of us, I am the only virgin in the house, and I get constant criticism from them for it. Yet, their behavior towards women is absolutely disgusting to me. Their view towards women and sex is something of an object. I find such behavior absolutely disgusting. Well.. If it's little teenage boys trying to live up to some idealized macho-image, then you can't really do anything but shrug & find some slightly more sane people to hang out with. Most & hopefully all of your roomies will get over it in a year or two.So, the question here is: Am I crazy for not giving a damn about sex? What is it with our society that seems so engrossed with sexuality?It's a combination of hormones, male stereotypes & Abrahamic religion. If you're part of an environment where sex is a forbidden fruit, yet where 'real men' are supposed to be drowning in **** juices & the girls are supposed to be booty-shaking, dirty-talking horny bitches, who none the less has to act like daddy's little angel, figuring out how to behave can be somewhat problematic I'd think.

So no, crazy person, you're not crazy. Your mates are. But they'll get over it eventually.
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:07
Factor in the sources. If you have so much contempt for their attitudes toward sex, does their opinion really affect you so much?

ALso remember that it cuts both ways.

Well, my contempt for their attitudes doesn't affect so much as their complete lack of respect for me. I was actually slapped in the freakin face tonight by one of my "friends" in front of a group of people! The asshole was surprised when I actually hit him back. I know for a fact that it was sex related, as he did it at a time when there were only a group of girls around, and he had the smug "I'm better than you and I know it" look on his face.

It's moreso a respect issue than me actually being affected by their opinions.
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:11
You should get more respect for being a virgin than you give your flatmates for not being?

Not what I meant. I meant that the reason why I get no respect from my roommates for being the only virgin in the house, not that I should get more. I give them ample respect, and yet I get none in return.


Everyone gets far too worked up about sex. It is neither a) the greatest achievement possible for humankind or b) a tool of the daemonic agents out to get us. It's just... Sex. Take a deep breath and have a nice cup of tea, people!

I think the confusion here is that I came off as being against sex. Which I'm not. I'm perfectly fine with it. But the attitudes of most of my peers towards sex is terrible, in my opinion. Most of the males in my age group want to go to a party, get plowed, find the drunkest girl possible, and have sex with her. And then flaunt it like it was some achievement in the morning. That's the main problem I have.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 11:12
Well, my contempt for their attitudes doesn't affect so much as their complete lack of respect for me. I was actually slapped in the freakin face tonight by one of my "friends" in front of a group of people! The asshole was surprised when I actually hit him back. I know for a fact that it was sex related, as he did it at a time when there were only a group of girls around, and he had the smug "I'm better than you and I know it" look on his face.

It's moreso a respect issue than me actually being affected by their opinions.

These aren't friends.

Hell, my friends have tied me naked to the hood of their truck like a dead deer and driven through town with me like that. But there was always respect!

:)
Pure Metal
18-10-2006, 11:14
Well, what pisses me off the most is that I see my roommates(and all of the people in my general peer group) get wasted, hit on wasted girls(whom usually are to the point of not knowing what the hell is going on), have sex with wasted girls, and then brag about it the next morning. Mean while the girls talk about how "sweet" and "nice" these douches are, and seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the only reason why they are is so they themselves can get laid. And if a girl doesn't show any "prospect" for sex, then they move on to the next one.

Meanwhile, I'm just looking for a freakin girl will actually consider a relationship with me(The pool is shallow for people who are into politics, academics, and actually being a nice guy). That's the part that really pisses me off. Girls always talk about looking for a "nice" and "smart" guy. Bull.

Hmm... I have a lot of penned up rage, me thinks.

there's a girl out there for you, don't worry. and your relationship with her will be worth a thousand pointless lays that your roommates put so much effort and faith into. the wait will be worth it.

i say this because i am a geeky guy into politics, academics (not really but i like debate and stuff), i'm fat and unfashionable, play videogames, love to cook, am a "nice guy", etc... and for years i also watched people i knew go out clubbing every other night with the sole intention of getting laid - i'm sure you know the drill - all the while not joining in, not really getting them, and just wanting a proper relationship with a girl.
but then i found a wonderful girlfriend who really does make my life... better. complete :) and i love her :) (plus i get laid more now than any of my one-night-stand friends do lol :p)

so i say fuck your friends and their immature antics. you'll be happier than them in the long run - stick it out :)

You really need to get laid! :p

Just kidding. Do your on thing. Let them do their own thing, catch their diseases, be accused of rape, knock some girl up and destroy their lives.

Don't sweat the sex.

what he said *nods*




ps: this thread is dangerously close to the old 'why do women hate nice guys' kind of thread :eek:
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:17
Alright, crazy person.

Does clinically depressed count as crazy?:p


Probably not, and since you're a virgin I can even understand it. At some point though, you'll find out that consensual sex between equal partners (none of that misogynistic shit) is one of the better things in life. Even when it isn't anything more than just sex.

I'm not saying it's not. However, my views towards sex are a bit less "agressive" in nature than those of my peers. It seems that all the people in my age group are driven solely by it. I have nothing wrong with sex, just when it seems to be your only goal, and the only way to merit one's or another's importance, more or less.


Well.. If it's little teenage boys trying to live up to some idealized macho-image, then you can't really do anything but shrug & find some slightly more sane people to hang out with.

If only it were that simple. They're all in their early twenties.


Most & hopefully all of your roomies will get over it in a year or two.It's a combination of hormones, male stereotypes & Abrahamic religion. If you're part of an environment where sex is a forbidden fruit, yet where 'real men' are supposed to be drowning in **** juices & the girls are supposed to be booty-shaking, dirty-talking horny bitches, who none the less has to act like daddy's little angel, figuring out how to behave can be somewhat problematic I'd think.

I've never heard it explained like that before... I don't think I'll be able to get "****-fruit" out of my head for a while, me thinks.


So no, crazy person, you're not crazy. Your mates are. But they'll get over it eventually.

Here's hoping, at least.
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:20
These aren't friends.

Hell, my friends have tied me naked to the hood of their truck like a dead deer and driven through town with me like that. But there was always respect!

:)

You see, there's a mutual respect there-They did that knowing very well you would get them back. On the other hand, if I were in your shoes, they'd probably leave me on the hood, park in the middle of campus, and leave me there for a day or two. Then they'd laugh their asses off because they know very well I wouldn't do anything back. :/

Maybe I need new friends.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 11:24
You see, there's a mutual respect there-They did that knowing very well you would get them back. On the other hand, if I were in your shoes, they'd probably leave me on the hood, park in the middle of campus, and leave me there for a day or two. Then they'd laugh their asses off because they know very well I wouldn't do anything back. :/

Maybe I need new friends.

Or maybe you should go in the offensive.

Find and steal their condoms. Dust the inside of them with a moisture activated powdered adhesive then reseal them and put them back.

:)

If they are really your friends, then once they get back from their humiliating emergency room visits, they will have a newfound respect for you. And if not, well it was nice knowing you. :)
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:29
Or maybe you should go in the offensive.

Find and steal their condoms. Dust the inside of them with a moisture activated powdered adhesive then reseal them and put them back.

:)

If they are really your friends, then once they get back from their humiliating emergency room visits, they will have a newfound respect for you. And if not, well it was nice knowing you. :)

You are sick. I like it. I've been considering just pissing them off-Boxes of tissue and hand lotion by their bed and "interestin" pornagraphy strategically placed in their bed when they have girls over.

Or, getting anti-fungals and putting them on their night stand.

However, your idea involves pain, humilation, and possible screwed over for life all in one. :/

Either that or dead fish in their rooms could work.
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 11:30
Now, call me crazy, but am alone in the world when thinking that "sex for sex sake" is pointless? It seems to drive my roommates obsessed, and I really am indifferent towards having sex. Out of the five of us, I am the only virgin in the house, and I get constant criticism from them for it. Yet, their behavior towards women is absolutely disgusting to me. Their view towards women and sex is something of an object. I find such behavior absolutely disgusting.

So, the question here is: Am I crazy for not giving a damn about sex? What is it with our society that seems so engrossed with sexuality?

Just because your roommates are jerks doesn't mean that sex is bad.

Using people for it and decieving them into thinking it's something more than sex is bad, but sex itself isn't.

I'd prefer to have sex in the context of a long-term romance myself, but to each their own, unless they're being hurtful towards others, as you seem to suggest your roommates are doing. My roommate is similar, unfortunately.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 11:31
You are sick. I like it. I've been considering just pissing them off-Boxes of tissue and hand lotion by their bed and "interestin" pornagraphy strategically placed in their bed when they have girls over.

Or, getting anti-fungals and putting them on their night stand.

However, your idea involves pain, humilation, and possible screwed over for life all in one. :/

Either that or dead fish in their rooms could work.

I have always been an innovator of mischief. :)
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:33
Just because your roommates are jerks doesn't mean that sex is bad.

Using people for it and decieving them into thinking it's something more than sex is bad, but sex itself isn't.

I'd prefer to have sex in the context of a long-term romance myself, but to each their own, unless they're being hurtful towards others, as you seem to suggest your roommates are doing. My roommate is similar, unfortunately.

It's not that I consider sex bad, it's just that I find the common attitudes towards it by my age group to be rather annoying, and at times disgusting.
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:34
I have always been an innovator of mischief. :)

Hmm, do you think lacing condoms with itching powder would cause any permanent damage?
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 11:36
I give them ample respect, and yet I get none in return.



Stop. Now. If they don't give you respect, you should give them any.
Delator
18-10-2006, 11:38
Sexual preference is just one example. When you factor in abortion, sodomy laws, anti-pornography laws, anti-indecency laws, etc. You begin to see just how absolutely obsessed people are about eachother's sex lives. Why can't people just boink? Why do they have to spend so much of their days worrying about who or what I boink? :p

Hehe...sigged. ;)
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 11:38
Hmm, do you think lacing condoms with itching powder would cause any permanent damage?

Oh, no. But I also don't think it'd be particularly effective. Try a powerful hot sauce. I recommend 'Spontaneous COmbustion'. It's not the most powerful, but it's relatively easy to find, inexpensive and strong enough to get the job done. Just a few drops will do the trick. :)
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 11:38
Well, my contempt for their attitudes doesn't affect so much as their complete lack of respect for me. I was actually slapped in the freakin face tonight by one of my "friends" in front of a group of people! The asshole was surprised when I actually hit him back. I know for a fact that it was sex related, as he did it at a time when there were only a group of girls around, and he had the smug "I'm better than you and I know it" look on his face.



Next time break his nose. Or his jaw. Please. He sounds like a total asswipe.
Seangoli
18-10-2006, 11:41
Stop. Now. If they don't give you respect, you should give them any.

It's not who I am. I respect people. Sometimes it gets frustrating, but I do it anyway because it is who I am. I'm not going to change that. It seems, however, the more I try to respect other people, the fewer people actually respect me.
Vorlich
18-10-2006, 11:45
Forget about your flatmates opinion - you have enough resepct for yourself that you're not going about sleeping with any slapper that comes your way.

They may be having sex but its meaningless and if they're wasted then its not gonna be THAT great.

You're doing the right thing waiting until you meet the person you want to spend time with.

But remember, it is fun when you find someone your are attracted to.....
Ifreann
18-10-2006, 11:46
Oh, no. But I also don't think it'd be particularly effective. Try a powerful hot sauce. I recommend 'Spontaneous COmbustion'. It's not the most powerful, but it's relatively easy to find, inexpensive and strong enough to get the job done. Just a few drops will do the trick. :)

And how do you suggest he get this powder into the condom without making it really obvious that it's been tampered with. I have limited experience, but aren't condoms generally in foil-ish wrapping. It'd be pretty obvious if one was opened.
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 11:48
It's not who I am. I respect people. Sometimes it gets frustrating, but I do it anyway because it is who I am. I'm not going to change that. It seems, however, the more I try to respect other people, the fewer people actually respect me.

I know exactly what you mean. But, that doesn't mean you should be these morons' doormat.

At the moment, my jerk roommate is trying to sleep. It's almost 4:00 in the morning. While I'm listening to music on headphones, I know it's loud enough for him to hear. And I also didn't turn the light off until a half hour ago.

He deserves this sort of treatment though, for various reasons, including that he uses the term "bitches" as a synonym for "women." Also he smoked in our room, so any misfortune he suffers is deserved.

I used to have a hard time being mean, too. I'm like you, or used to be. I want to be nice to people, even when they're jerks.

Sometimes it's better just to give them a taste of karma.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 11:49
And how do you suggest he get this powder into the condom without making it really obvious that it's been tampered with. I have limited experience, but aren't condoms generally in foil-ish wrapping. It'd be pretty obvious if one was opened.

You would be amazed what one can accomplish with a surgeon's scalpel, some rubber cement and a patient, steady hand. :)
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 11:51
Put lice in their beds. But not on their pillows. Lower... the girls will think they're really sweet for giving them the crabs.


Of course, if you wanted to be really horrible, you could always use a needle to poke holes in their condoms.
Ifreann
18-10-2006, 11:57
You would be amazed what one can accomplish with a surgeon's scalpel, some rubber cement and a patient, steady hand. :)

Remind me to never ever get on your bad side.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 12:00
Remind me to never ever get on your bad side.

This is still my good side. :)

Few have seen my bad side. None of them are in any condition to speak of it. :)
Chandelier
18-10-2006, 12:01
Now, call me crazy, but am alone in the world when thinking that "sex for sex sake" is pointless? It seems to drive my roommates obsessed, and I really am indifferent towards having sex. Out of the five of us, I am the only virgin in the house, and I get constant criticism from them for it. Yet, their behavior towards women is absolutely disgusting to me. Their view towards women and sex is something of an object. I find such behavior absolutely disgusting.

So, the question here is: Am I crazy for not giving a damn about sex? What is it with our society that seems so engrossed with sexuality?

No, you're definitely not crazy. It disgusts me, too.
Ifreann
18-10-2006, 12:01
This is still my good side. :)

Few have seen my bad side. None of them are in any condition to speak of it. :)

:eek:

You know what, I'll just keep some mud handy to distract you with.
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 12:02
:eek:

You know what, I'll just keep some mud handy to distract you with.

Good plan. :)
Ifreann
18-10-2006, 12:05
Good plan. :)

*begins stuffing pockets with mud*
Jester III
18-10-2006, 12:20
Now, call me crazy, but am alone in the world when thinking that "sex for sex sake" is pointless? It seems to drive my roommates obsessed, and I really am indifferent towards having sex. [...] Yet, their behavior towards women is absolutely disgusting to me. Their view towards women and sex is something of an object. I find such behavior absolutely disgusting.

The problem isnt the sex, the prbolem is the attitude of your roomies. They dont go hand in hand neccessarily. Just as you can play football like an asshole and foul everyone in sight, you can be a fair sportsman as well. Football wouldnt be to blame.
Nobel Hobos
18-10-2006, 12:44
The problem isnt the sex, the prbolem is the attitude of your roomies. They dont go hand in hand neccessarily. Just as you can play football like an asshole and foul everyone in sight, you can be a fair sportsman as well. Football wouldnt be to blame.

Wow! Great analogy.
Even egotistical assholes who have sex only so they can boast about it can fall in love, and almost overnight reform their attitude. Not always, but really quite often.

I'm guessing that Seangoli is sharing a dorm, and is therefore forced to share living space and all the facilities with four other blokes. I further assume that there is some compelling reason for living in such a nightmarish barracks situation. College perhaps?

Any chance of moving into a more civilized environment, a rented sharehouse for instance? Five is a good number, roughly half male half female. There's politics, there's stress and rent crises, but you're almost never the lone outsider.
Cabra West
18-10-2006, 12:46
Now, call me crazy, but am alone in the world when thinking that "sex for sex sake" is pointless? It seems to drive my roommates obsessed, and I really am indifferent towards having sex. Out of the five of us, I am the only virgin in the house, and I get constant criticism from them for it. Yet, their behavior towards women is absolutely disgusting to me. Their view towards women and sex is something of an object. I find such behavior absolutely disgusting.

So, the question here is: Am I crazy for not giving a damn about sex? What is it with our society that seems so engrossed with sexuality?

Sex should always be for the sake of sex, and nothing else. Sex for any other reason is just plain wrong....

Your roommates are not having it for the sake of it, they're having it so they can show off. Wrong. Completely wrong.