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Ladies, be honest, please

Wilgrove
18-10-2006, 09:13
Ok, so this has been on my mind, and I've asked several of my female friends, and several exs throughout the ages this one question. Does size matter? I've gotten mixed answears too, some say no, other says depends, and others say yes. So I think once and for all, for the sake of men's sanity, I think the women own us men, a strong solid answear. Does size matter?
Lunatic Goofballs
18-10-2006, 09:21
Yes and no.

You don't even need to use your penis to give your woman an orgasm. So having a small penis is really no excuse for bad lovemaking. On the other side, any woman who thinks a large penis matters needs to find a man who knows how to please women better. *nod*

However, many men an women don't know this. A large penis is a crutch for the weak. ;)
Free Randomers
18-10-2006, 09:22
It's the personality that counts.

EDIT:
The size of what precisely?

Height?
Waist?
Build?
Wallet?

EDIT2:I think the women own us men
I think you ment 'owe', but your typo is more accurate.
Wilgrove
18-10-2006, 09:25
It's the personality that counts.


The size of what precisely?

Height?
Waist?
Build?
Wallet?

Umm.....
Free Randomers
18-10-2006, 09:29
Umm.....

It's a reasonable question.

Does height matter to a women?
Does fatness matter to a woman?
Does how stacked you are matter to a woman?
Does your income matter to a woman?

Ask all of these, and you will often get an evasive answer that hints at personality.
Soviestan
18-10-2006, 09:30
Size does matter. at least to all my female friends.
Wilgrove
18-10-2006, 09:33
It's a reasonable question.

Does height matter to a women?
Does fatness matter to a woman?
Does how stacked you are matter to a woman?
Does your income matter to a woman?

Ask all of these, and you will often get an evasive answer that hints at personality.

The question is about the size of the penis in relations to pleasing a woman.
Cabra West
18-10-2006, 09:34
It matters insofar as most women don't like too small or too big.... one is a little disappointing, the other rather painful.
That doesn't mean that that couldn't be compensated, it just takes a little effort.

Yes, size matter, but it seems to matter a lot more to you guys than it does to us. ;)
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 09:40
the other rather painful.


Which is why bragging about a 14" cock is just silly.
Cabra West
18-10-2006, 09:46
Which is why bragging about a 14" cock is just silly.

Apparently, it impresses the lads.... maybe that's the whole point, anyway?
I've never had any female friend tell me about the size of her current lovers cock, so I guess it's really just something you guys like to compare. Don't ask me why...
Wilgrove
18-10-2006, 09:50
Apparently, it impresses the lads.... maybe that's the whole point, anyway?
I've never had any female friend tell me about the size of her current lovers cock, so I guess it's really just something you guys like to compare. Don't ask me why...

Because it makes us feel more like a man, it's a primitive kinda thing, like a pissing contest.
Kyronea
18-10-2006, 09:50
Of course it doesn't matter. Why should it? Fact is, the inside of a vagina can only hold so much anyway. A smaller penis is better than a larger penis in this regard. Furthermore, without skill, a large penis is a blunt and dangerous instrument, whereas a small penis is merely blunt.
Delator
18-10-2006, 09:56
Yes and no.

You don't even need to use your penis to give your woman an orgasm. So having a small penis is really no excuse for bad lovemaking. On the other side, any woman who thinks a large penis matters needs to find a man who knows how to please women better. *nod*

However, many men an women don't know this. A large penis is a crutch for the weak. ;)

QFT!
Pure Metal
18-10-2006, 09:59
Of course it doesn't matter. Why should it? Fact is, the inside of a vagina can only hold so much anyway. A smaller penis is better than a larger penis in this regard. Furthermore, without skill, a large penis is a blunt and dangerous instrument, whereas a small penis is merely blunt.

i understand that if size does matter, its not length that's best, but good girth, right?

Because it makes us feel more like a man, it's a primitive kinda thing, like a pissing contest.

i won the last pissing contest i was in :D :p
though its also a compensatory thing for a lot of guys... like "that dude may be more successful and have a better car and all that stuff than me, but at least i have a bigger cock!" (ergo feeling like you have a big cock becomes important)
kinda stupid, really. like saying 'at least i'm taller than that bastard' when, frankly, who fucking cares? :P
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 10:00
Apparently, it impresses the lads.... maybe that's the whole point, anyway?
I've never had any female friend tell me about the size of her current lovers cock, so I guess it's really just something you guys like to compare. Don't ask me why...

One of the several reasons I prefer mixed company...
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 10:03
i understand that if size does matter, its not length that's best, but good girth, right?


It would probably help to have significant diameter.


Length after a certain point becomes a nuisance, because there's nothing good about being longer than she is deep.
Kyronea
18-10-2006, 10:07
i understand that if size does matter, its not length that's best, but good girth, right?

As far as I'm concerned, the Angry Inch could be more than enough with the proper skill.

But girth is good, I'll admit.
Transcendant Pilgrims
18-10-2006, 10:13
Size helps, so does skill. If you're lucky enough to have both, well...:fluffle:

Lunatic Goofballs: [...] A large penis is a crutch for the weak.

If any weaklings out there need a crutch, just TG.:D

P.S. If all else fails, you can always use this >>---> :upyours::eek:

;)
NERVUN
18-10-2006, 10:40
If you think about it, women squeeze something the size, shape, and weight of a small to mid-sized watermelon out of there.

We guys are kinda outclassed in the whole size bit compared to that ye ken?
Pure Metal
18-10-2006, 10:42
If you think about it, women squeeze something the size, shape, and weight of a small to mid-sized watermelon out of there.

We guys are kinda outclassed in the whole size bit compared to that ye ken?

yeah but that's not really supposed to feel good...
NERVUN
18-10-2006, 10:44
yeah but that's not really supposed to feel good...
True, but I remember that from a junior high school class where my teacher used it to shut up some fellow classmates who were trying to get into a measuring contest and bosting that they might be too big for the ladies.

It worked and worked well. ;)
Le Franada
18-10-2006, 10:56
Yes and no. It is not so much lenght as girth, there aren't that many nerve ending after about 8 cm up so anything longer is not completely felt. As long as it is wide enough, it should be okay. That being said, if it is too big it can hurt as well. But it is also depends if you know what you are doing. If you are too quick or there is little foreplay, it doesn't matter what size you are, you probably won't please the woman. Woman in general take much longer to have an orgasm then men.
Jello Biafra
18-10-2006, 11:55
Yes and no. It is not so much lenght as girth, there aren't that many nerve ending after about 8 cm up so anything longer is not completely felt. That seems to be a myth.
Ifreann
18-10-2006, 12:09
I've heard size only matters if it's too anything(big, small, thick, thin, talkative, whatever)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-10-2006, 12:16
It matters insofar as most women don't like too small or too big.... one is a little disappointing, the other rather painful.
That doesn't mean that that couldn't be compensated, it just takes a little effort.

Yes, size matter, but it seems to matter a lot more to you guys than it does to us. ;)
Yep.

i understand that if size does matter, its not length that's best, but good girth, right
Hm, I'd say that would depend on the woman in question. Women are built just as differently from each other as guys are, so chances are for some length will be more important, for others girth.

That seems to be a myth. It does? I mean, I've never heard anything about "8 cm" or anything, but there certainly aren't many nerve endings the further in you go (the blinding pain of something hitting your cervix not included >.<). I mean, how immeasurably stupid and self-defeating would that be considering we might have to squeeze a kid out there? Just to make it hurt even more? :p
Ifreann
18-10-2006, 12:20
......I mean, how immeasurably stupid and self-defeating would that be considering we might have to squeeze a kid out there? Just to make it hurt even more? :p

Who says nature can't be stupid?;)
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 12:21
well my closest female friends seem to be of the opinion that while a bigger penis certainly makes a difference for the better, it is not essential, not necessarily a primary concern, and can easily be outweighed by other things - they're not going to go out with a really ugly guy with a big dick, or a really stupid guy, or a dickhead. also the same girl would probably give a different answer at different times depending on how they feel, like sometimes all they might want out of a guy is someone to hold them, or someone to treat them like a princess, or someone they can be really fascinated and stimulated by, or whatever, and yes, sometimes a girl might just want a guy who can roger them silly. it's just the same for guys. at the end of the day we all want someone who can do the most for us, one thing missing out of everything we might want out of a partner is not going to upset too much.
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 12:22
Who says nature can't be stupid?;)


Certainly not the appendix...
Jello Biafra
18-10-2006, 12:23
It does? I mean, I've never heard anything about "8 cm" or anything, but there certainly aren't many nerve endings the further in you go (the blinding pain of something hitting your cervix not included >.<). I mean, how immeasurably stupid and self-defeating would that be considering we might have to squeeze a kid out there? Just to make it hurt even more? :pI dunno, it seems just as silly as putting access to a man's prostate inside his anus...lol.
With that said, I imagine you're probably right in that the nerve endings end at some point, but I doubt it's as shallow as 8cm. Also, I don't think it's the same for all women (as I understand.)
Teh_pantless_hero
18-10-2006, 12:27
well my closest female friends seem to be of the opinion that while a bigger penis certainly makes a difference for the better, it is not essential, not necessarily a primary concern, and can easily be outweighed by other things - they're not going to go out with a really ugly guy with a big dick, or a really stupid guy, or a dickhead.
Sure fooled me on the bolded part.
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 12:29
Apparently, it impresses the lads.... maybe that's the whole point, anyway?
I've never had any female friend tell me about the size of her current lovers cock, so I guess it's really just something you guys like to compare. Don't ask me why...

no, my flatmates have all compared at some point the size of their boyfriends cocks, or at least mentioned it. all of their boyfriends at that time were apparently big, so either one or more of them are lying or girls have different ideas from guys about what is big and what is not or the statistics of average penis size are lying.
Jello Biafra
18-10-2006, 12:32
no, my flatmates have all compared at some point the size of their boyfriends cocks, or at least mentioned it. all of their boyfriends at that time were apparently big, so either one or more of them are lying or girls have different ideas from guys about what is big and what is not or the statistics of average penis size are lying.Maybe it's the same guy?
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 12:33
Sure fooled me on the bolded part.

well yeah, that's probably something that doesn't put them off to start with but they then soon get dissolution with perhaps.
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 12:33
Maybe it's the same guy?

haha, no. i know all their boyfriends.
Khadgar
18-10-2006, 12:36
Sure fooled me on the bolded part.

I'm rather confused by the female propensity to date assholes and then complain to male friends about it. If he's an ass, dump him. Simple!
Smunkeeville
18-10-2006, 12:54
Yes and no.

You don't even need to use your penis to give your woman an orgasm. So having a small penis is really no excuse for bad lovemaking. On the other side, any woman who thinks a large penis matters needs to find a man who knows how to please women better. *nod*

However, many men an women don't know this. A large penis is a crutch for the weak. ;)

pretty much.

and a plus is once she really likes you, and isn't sleeping around she really doesn't have anything to compare with, and since she is hanging out with you, all of you not just your penis, it's really a non-issue.

seriously you should be thinking more about things you can control, like how you treat her outside of the bedroom which has much more bearing on how much she will enjoy the sex than what you do for 5 minutes in bed. ;)
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 12:57
I'm rather confused by the female propensity to date assholes and then complain to male friends about it. If he's an ass, dump him. Simple!

it's because assholes have confidence, or at least bluster, and frequently use flattery to get the girl, or guy. both confidence and flattery are very attractive if done right.
Jello Biafra
18-10-2006, 13:01
haha, no. i know all their boyfriends.Then you should personally verify their claims and get back to us.
Cabra West
18-10-2006, 13:02
no, my flatmates have all compared at some point the size of their boyfriends cocks, or at least mentioned it. all of their boyfriends at that time were apparently big, so either one or more of them are lying or girls have different ideas from guys about what is big and what is not or the statistics of average penis size are lying.

Really? Wow... I never had a conversation like this with my friends. We compared condoms, and toys of course, and techniques, but penis sizes? No. That was a non-issue.
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:04
Then you should personally verify their claims and get back to us.

well i can verify one of them (accidentally saw his in the bogs at a club the other day :eek:), the others have all conveniently split with those boyfriends in the last year or so.
Smunkeeville
18-10-2006, 13:05
Really? Wow... I never had a conversation like this with my friends. We compared condoms, and toys of course, and techniques, but penis sizes? No. That was a non-issue.

I haven't ever had that conversation with any of my friends ever either, and we talk about sex a lot, we talk about positions, technique, etc, but not really penis sizes... oh and when we talk about technique we are talking about ours, not the guys. ;)
Bottle
18-10-2006, 13:07
Ok, so this has been on my mind, and I've asked several of my female friends, and several exs throughout the ages this one question. Does size matter? I've gotten mixed answears too, some say no, other says depends, and others say yes. So I think once and for all, for the sake of men's sanity, I think the women own us men, a strong solid answear. Does size matter?
*Sigh*

Guys ask this all the damn time. If you'd just give it a tiny ounce of thought, you'd know the answer and you wouldn't have to keep asking the same thing over and over.

Does the size of the girl matter to you? Yes, at the extremes (way too big/way too small), but within the normal range of variation it just doesn't make that big a difference.

There are a whole lot of other things that make a much bigger difference, like the relative experience of the parties involved, and their willingness to please one another.

I've said it before, and I will say it again: sex is not all about the penis. Sorry guys. The penis is only part of the story, and for a lot of women it's not even really the most important one. :D
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:07
Really? Wow... I never had a conversation like this with my friends. We compared condoms, and toys of course, and techniques, but penis sizes? No. That was a non-issue.

mostly drink was involved but not always. perhaps they were all just a bit proud. well it was all sort of instigated by one of them who was just amazed at the size of her boyfriends cuz she expected him to be small for whatever reason. i guess the others felt they had to let it be known that they weren't missing out or something.
Cabra West
18-10-2006, 13:09
I haven't ever had that conversation with any of my friends ever either, and we talk about sex a lot, we talk about positions, technique, etc, but not really penis sizes... oh and when we talk about technique we are talking about ours, not the guys. ;)

We're talking about both. ;) Let's face it, if her guy does something that mine doesn't, I can teach him. You never know who I might be doing a favour with this in the long run.
Smunkeeville
18-10-2006, 13:10
We're talking about both. ;) Let's face it, if her guy does something that mine doesn't, I can teach him. You never know who I might be doing a favour with this in the long run.

ah, never thought about that, I pretty much talk to my husband about sex so much that I really don't have to go elsewhere for ideas....other than when I am like "what do you like?" and he is like "whatever you do I like" :rolleyes: :p
Jello Biafra
18-10-2006, 13:11
well i can verify one of them (accidentally saw his in the bogs at a club the other day :eek:), the others have all conveniently split with those boyfriends in the last year or so.What are the bogs? Is that Britspeak for the restrooms?
If not, I'm curious as to why he had it out in a club...
Cabra West
18-10-2006, 13:11
mostly drink was involved but not always. perhaps they were all just a bit proud. well it was all sort of instigated by one of them who was just amazed at the size of her boyfriends cuz she expected him to be small for whatever reason. i guess the others felt they had to let it be known that they weren't missing out or something.

Possibly... to be honest, I woudn't even know my boyfriends exact measurements. ;)
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:12
What are the bogs? Is that Britspeak for the restrooms?
If not, I'm curious as to why he had it out in a club...

yeh, restrooms. but we don't do much resting there in the uk.
Myriad States
18-10-2006, 13:13
It's a reasonable question.

Does height matter to a women?
Does fatness matter to a woman?
Does how stacked you are matter to a woman?
Does your income matter to a woman?

Ask all of these, and you will often get an evasive answer that hints at personality.


To be honest, yes (my shallow side coming out, I know), not unless its extreme, not unless its extreme (hugely stacked guys are a neg), and as long as you live within it it isn't a major problem for me.

See? Questions answered, not really evasively...

...so does that hint that I do or don't have a personality?
Jello Biafra
18-10-2006, 13:14
yeh, restrooms. but we don't do much resting there in the uk.Oh, shucks. <Cancels trip to the UK.>
Yeah, I'm not sure why we call them restrooms, either.
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:14
Possibly... to be honest, I woudn't even know my boyfriends exact measurements. ;)

haha, one of my flatmates really really pissed off her boyfriend not long ago by trying to sneak a ruler into bed so she could measure his, hahahah he was not impressed, and has now hidden all the rulers he can find in his flat.

to be honest i wish they wouldn't talk about the size of their boyfriends penises, it doesn't make me feel too good.
Callisdrun
18-10-2006, 13:16
I dunno, it seems just as silly as putting access to a man's prostate inside his anus...lol.
With that said, I imagine you're probably right in that the nerve endings end at some point, but I doubt it's as shallow as 8cm. Also, I don't think it's the same for all women (as I understand.)

Actually.. 8 cm seems about right, maybe for an average. Obviously everyone is different.
Ifreann
18-10-2006, 13:16
Possibly... to be honest, I woudn't even know my boyfriends exact measurements. ;)

Well how many people bring a ruler to the bedroom and use it to measure things?
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:18
Well how many people bring a ruler to the bedroom and use it to measure things?

might want to look at my last post
NERVUN
18-10-2006, 13:40
other than when I am like "what do you like?" and he is like "whatever you do I like" :rolleyes: :p
Smunkee, be fair, that's like asking "Does this make me look fat?" I mean, how are guys supposed to answer that and NOT get yelled at. ;)
Smunkeeville
18-10-2006, 13:43
Smunkee, be fair, that's like asking "Does this make me look fat?" I mean, how are guys supposed to answer that and NOT get yelled at. ;)

true......I guess if he came up with something that I don't do I would be like "who does that to you!?" with that scary look I have, but only today because I have PMS.... LOL

the man has no fantasy life, he just doesn't care to, he says that life with me is his fantasy......WTF!?

I don't even know what to do with that information
The Nazz
18-10-2006, 13:45
Because it makes us feel more like a man, it's a primitive kinda thing, like a pissing contest.

If that's what makes you feel like a man, well, you're not one yet is all I've got to say.
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:50
to be honest i think the only answer that will satisfy any asker of the question in the OP is "yes, size does matter". a negative answer will be assumed to be someone just being kind; an evasive "no, but, yeh, but" is not conclusive in anyway so is not really an answer to the question; "yes" on the other hand confirms our worst fears and once that has happened we can move on and live with the fact that girls are going to at least notice and make comment (if only to themselves) on the size of our dicks. that way one can really focus and put some effort into making up for any perceived inadequacy.
Eutrusca
18-10-2006, 13:50
Ok, so this has been on my mind, and I've asked several of my female friends, and several exs throughout the ages this one question. Does size matter? I've gotten mixed answears too, some say no, other says depends, and others say yes. So I think once and for all, for the sake of men's sanity, I think the women own us men, a strong solid answear. Does size matter?

To some women all the time, and to all women some of the time. There's no easy answer to this because when women have an orgasm they want more, but most women couldn't care less how long you are as long as you last long. Get it?
Bottle
18-10-2006, 13:50
If that's what makes you feel like a man, well, you're not one yet is all I've got to say.
It really amazes me that any guy would feel like more of a man when bragging about his penis size, considering that most people automatically assume such men to be the worst equipped.

Of course, I'm also amazed that there are still 45 year old bald men who buy penis cars and think it makes them look cool, when everybody else just thinks "Mid-life crisis, tiny dick."
NERVUN
18-10-2006, 13:50
true......I guess if he came up with something that I don't do I would be like "who does that to you!?" with that scary look I have, but only today because I have PMS.... LOL

the man has no fantasy life, he just doesn't care to, he says that life with me is his fantasy......WTF!?

I don't even know what to do with that information
Be happy that you satisfy your husband in all things?
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:51
It really amazes me that any guy would feel like more of a man when bragging about his penis size, considering that most people automatically assume such men to be the worst equipped.

Of course, I'm also amazed that there are still 45 year old bald men who buy penis cars and think it makes them look cool, when everybody else just thinks "Mid-life crisis, tiny dick."

some people just like cool cars....
Eutrusca
18-10-2006, 13:52
It really amazes me that any guy would feel like more of a man when bragging about his penis size, considering that most people automatically assume such men to be the worst equipped.

Of course, I'm also amazed that there are still 45 year old bald men who buy penis cars and think it makes them look cool, when everybody else just thinks "Mid-life crisis, tiny dick."

LMAO! :D

Does that apply to buying a motorcycle too? :confused:
Smunkeeville
18-10-2006, 13:53
Be happy that you satisfy your husband in all things?

I could, but that doesn't leave room for my irrational thoughts and my being pissed at him for no fucking reason.

It kinda takes away from some stuff that I am really good at doing you know? that whole "why won't he tell me? why does he hate me?" and then yelling at him for no reason....
Bottle
18-10-2006, 13:53
some people just like cool cars....
Penis cars aren't cool cars. They're the flashy cock-stand-in cars that actually have shite under the hood. :D
Bottle
18-10-2006, 13:55
LMAO! :D

Does that apply to buying a motorcycle too? :confused:
If it's one of those "suburban Sunday rebel" crotch rockets, then yes. Though most people know a lot less about bikes than they do about cars (myself included), so fewer people know the difference between a nice motorcycle and a piece of expensive crap.
Eutrusca
18-10-2006, 13:57
If it's one of those "suburban Sunday rebel" crotch rockets, then yes. Though most people know a lot less about bikes than they do about cars (myself included), so fewer people know the difference between a nice motorcycle and a piece of expensive crap.

LMAO! Like I'm a "surburban Sunday rebel!" NOT! My new one isn't just a "bike," it's a HARLEY! That's like comparing beans to pate! :D
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 13:57
Penis cars aren't cool cars. They're the flashy cock-stand-in cars that actually have shite under the hood. :D

so a ferrari or a tvr isn't a penis car but a model-before-the-latest corvette is?

don't forget there are many awesome looking cars that don't have much grunt but are still tonnes of fun to drive though.
Bottle
18-10-2006, 14:05
so a ferrari or a tvr isn't a penis car but a model-before-the-latest corvette is?

don't forget there are many awesome looking cars that don't have much grunt but are still tonnes of fun to drive though.
I suppose I should also add that you have to watch how the vehicle is driven. Look at how the chap handles his ride: is it obvious that he bought it for the looks, and not for the moves? Is it fairly clear that he only learned to drive a stick shift because his penis car isn't made in automatics? Is he driving his Farrari very carefully at the speed limit, because 1) he knows he already can't afford the insurance on it, let alone what it will be if he gets a ticket, and 2) the whole point is for girls to see the car, so he needs to go slowly to give them a chance to oggle?

How you handle the ride is as important as the wheels, in most cases. This fits perfectly with the OP of this thread, when you think about it, since a lot of guys get so hung up on having the biggest and bestest that they forget about learning how to use it. If you have a Viper but you drive like it's a Aerostar, then all the girls who know what's what will pass you by. Same goes for sex. :D
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 14:09
I suppose I should also add that you have to watch how the vehicle is driven. Look at how the chap handles his ride: is it obvious that he bought it for the looks, and not for the moves? Is it fairly clear that he only learned to drive a stick shift because his penis car isn't made in automatics? Is he driving his Farrari very carefully at the speed limit, because 1) he knows he already can't afford the insurance on it, let alone what it will be if he gets a ticket, and 2) the whole point is for girls to see the car, so he needs to go slowly to give them a chance to oggle?

How you handle the ride is as important as the wheels, in most cases. This fits perfectly with the OP of this thread, when you think about it, since a lot of guys get so hung up on having the biggest and bestest that they forget about learning how to use it. If you have a Viper but you drive like it's a Aerostar, then all the girls who know what's what will pass you by. Same goes for sex. :D

ha, true. although when a guy in a flash car uses his car like it's meant to be used it's like he's waving his cock about aswell. the only difference between the guy driving fast and the guy cruising at 40 is the faster one has a boner :D
NERVUN
18-10-2006, 14:32
I could, but that doesn't leave room for my irrational thoughts and my being pissed at him for no fucking reason.

It kinda takes away from some stuff that I am really good at doing you know? that whole "why won't he tell me? why does he hate me?" and then yelling at him for no reason....
See, this is why men are convinced that their wives are crazy. ;)
Khadgar
18-10-2006, 14:38
ah, never thought about that, I pretty much talk to my husband about sex so much that I really don't have to go elsewhere for ideas....other than when I am like "what do you like?" and he is like "whatever you do I like" :rolleyes: :p

You know you could bring home a strap-on to test that theory.:D
Ashmoria
18-10-2006, 14:46
a friend of mine tells a story about being in a sushi restaurant (after hours) chatting with the staff when the japanese chef broke out into a rant about this very topic

"american women complain about men being too small. maybe the truth is that american women just have FLAPPY VAGINAS!"

(i probably shouldnt have put that in quotes since he didnt have perfect english and it cant be accurate)

there are women to whom penis size is extremely important. i would recommed that you avoid such women unless you are a world class lover with at least slightly larger than average equipment.

for the average woman, they like what the man they love has. especially if he develops enough technique to ensure that they have an orgasm a majority of the time they have sex together. great equipment is useless if a man is a bad or inconsiderate lover. small equipment is no big deal if you know how to please her and make sure that she is satisfied.

and, as in everything, with 3billion women on earth, there is bound to be a mix of opinions on this topic. there is never one true answer.
Le Franada
18-10-2006, 15:36
I dunno, it seems just as silly as putting access to a man's prostate inside his anus...lol.
With that said, I imagine you're probably right in that the nerve endings end at some point, but I doubt it's as shallow as 8cm. Also, I don't think it's the same for all women (as I understand.)

I don't know, from what I have discussed with other women, about 8 cm is about right, though a couple have claimed a bit higher up, maybe 9 or 10. 8 cm was the figure I have always heard as the average. I am not saying that women can't feel nothing above that, but there is a point where are less endings. Of course, it is different for every woman. Personally I would say for me much more than 8 cm up and I don't feel too much unless something goes too deep, and that doesn't feel so good. Vaginas aren't that long, on average 10 cm IIRC, and from my experience it doesn't feel too good when something touches the cervix.
Free Randomers
18-10-2006, 15:42
Personally I would say for me much more than 8 cm up and I don't feel too much unless something goes too deep, and that doesn't feel so good. Vaginas aren't that long, on average 10 cm IIRC, and from my experience it doesn't feel too good when something touches the cervix.
Given the average penis is about 15cm I would be surprised if the average vagina is only 10cm.
Cluichstan
18-10-2006, 15:46
Given the average penis is about 15cm I would be surprised if the average vagina is only 10cm.

Actually, the average penis is a little under five inches (how sad for the average -- and those below average! :eek: ).
Compulsive Depression
18-10-2006, 15:48
for the average woman, they like what the man they love has. especially if he develops enough technique to ensure that they have an orgasm a majority of the time they have sex together.

One orgasm, most of the time?
I'm doing significantly more work than necessary here :(

Vaginas aren't that long, on average 10 cm IIRC, and from my experience it doesn't feel too good when something touches the cervix.
My girlfriend usually comes instantly if I go deep enough to touch her cervix. Takes all sorts, eh?

Edit:
Actually, the average penis is a little under five inches (how sad for the average -- and those below average! :eek: ).
I've heard averages from 5 inches to 7 inches. I don't think an accurate value exists.
Cluichstan
18-10-2006, 15:51
My girlfriend usually comes instantly if I go deep enough to touch her cervix. Takes all sorts, eh?

I dated a girl, very tiny (only about five feet tall), several years ago who said it was painful as all hell if I hit her cervix, so I hafta go with La Franada on that one.
Cluichstan
18-10-2006, 15:52
Edit:

I've heard averages from 5 inches to 7 inches. I don't think an accurate value exists.

Of course not, because too many guys lie. ;)
Compulsive Depression
18-10-2006, 15:52
I dated a girl, very tiny (only about five feet tall), several years ago who said it was painful as all hell if I hit her cervix, so I hafta go with La Franada on that one.
Oh, I don't doubt it. But it just goes to show that not everyone's the same.
Bottle
18-10-2006, 15:53
Given the average penis is about 15cm I would be surprised if the average vagina is only 10cm.
That's actually a fairly reasonable average for the non-aroused state of the human vagina. The numbers I've heard are between 3 and 6 inches, which converts to roughly 7.5-15 cm (I think).

However, guys aren't the only ones who change size when turned on. During arousal there will what is known as "vaginal tenting," which involves backwards and upwards movements of the anterior vaginal wall. The last 2/3 of the vagina expands, and the cervix also retracts. During penetrative sex, the vagina can go from about 10 cm to closer to 15 cm very rapidly. With sufficient arousal it can often expand to accomodate more than 20 cm.

For the curious, here's an interesting article where MRI images were taken of couples during heterosexual missionary-position intercourse:
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/319/7225/1596
Free Randomers
18-10-2006, 15:53
Actually, the average penis is a little under five inches (how sad for the average -- and those below average! :eek: ).

Really?

I remember FHM did a sex survey a couple of years ago, one of the questions was "How Long is Your Penis".

The next month the front page had "LIARS" in massive letters on the front. Seems the 'average' FHM respondant claimed an 8"/20cm penis. They gave a detailed instruction on the correct way to measure and even included a ruler!
Cluichstan
18-10-2006, 15:57
Really?

I remember FHM did a sex survey a couple of years ago, one of the questions was "How Long is Your Penis".

The next month the front page had "LIARS" in massive letters on the front. Seems the 'average' FHM respondant claimed an 8"/20cm penis. They gave a detailed instruction on the correct way to measure and even included a ruler!

Now THAT'S funny. :D
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 15:57
Of course not, because too many guys lie. ;)

i wonder if the lying makes the average increase or decrease. cuz if the guys replying to the survey added a little extra to the figure they put that would put the average up. but i've never seen an average size quoted anywhere particularly reliable so perhaps whoever compiled the figures fiddled with them a little to make themselves feel better, i.e. lowered the average. maybe it all works out correct, who knows, but i'm still inclined to disbelieve any average penis size statistics.
Bottle
18-10-2006, 16:10
My girlfriend usually comes instantly if I go deep enough to touch her cervix. Takes all sorts, eh?

There are a few women who report experiencing pleasure when their cervix is stimulated, but it's actually more likely that what you are contacting is the cul-de-sac. When a woman is aroused, the uterus lifts up a bit and exposes the cul-de-sac area. Many women report intense orgasms when this area is stimulated during sex.
Compulsive Depression
18-10-2006, 16:17
There are a few women who report experiencing pleasure when their cervix is stimulated, but it's actually more likely that what you are contacting is the the cul-de-sac. When a woman is aroused, the uterus lifts up a bit and exposes the cul-de-sac area. Many women report intense orgasms when this area is stimulated during sex.
Ah right, jolly good. I've learned something today, ta :)
Cluichstan
18-10-2006, 16:21
There are a few women who report experiencing pleasure when their cervix is stimulated, but it's actually more likely that what you are contacting is the cul-de-sac. When a woman is aroused, the uterus lifts up a bit and exposes the cul-de-sac area. Many women report intense orgasms when this area is stimulated during sex.

I could tell guys how to find it, but that would give away secrets that make me better than those who don't know. ;)
Bottle
18-10-2006, 16:23
I could tell guys how to find it, but that would give away secrets that make me better than those who don't know. ;)
Heh, then I guess I should apologize for ruining your monopoly on skills, since I tell people to simply talk to their partner and experiment with these things. I find that the best authority on what pleases a woman is that women herself, so I tend to recommend that guys not rely on secondary sources when they could just get it from the primary. :D
Bottle
18-10-2006, 16:24
Ah right, jolly good. I've learned something today, ta :)
I'm all about the random fun facts. Not that it really matters what you call it, so long as she's liking what you're doing to it. ;)
Cluichstan
18-10-2006, 16:24
Heh, then I guess I should apologize for ruining your monopoly on skills, since I tell people to simply talk to their partner and experiment with these things. I find that the best authority on what pleases a woman is that women herself, so I tend to recommend that guys not rely on secondary sources when they could just get it from the primary. :D

There are some things that are the same, no matter the woman (or the man, for that matter). ;)
Bottle
18-10-2006, 16:27
There are some things that are the same, no matter the woman (or the man, for that matter). ;)
In my experience, there are some things which tend to be true of most women and men, but there will also be an exception to every rule.

For instance, I have found a guy who enjoys when his partner uses teeth while performing oral sex on them. I've met a girl who hates having her clitoris stimulated. For any generality you can come up with, I'm pretty sure there will be at least one person out there who doesn't fit with it...and you never know when you might end up shacking up with that person! :)
The Nazz
18-10-2006, 16:29
That's actually a fairly reasonable average for the non-aroused state of the human vagina. The numbers I've heard are between 3 and 6 inches, which converts to roughly 7.5-15 cm (I think).

However, guys aren't the only ones who change size when turned on. During arousal there will what is known as "vaginal tenting," which involves backwards and upwards movements of the anterior vaginal wall. The last 2/3 of the vagina expands, and the cervix also retracts. During penetrative sex, the vagina can go from about 10 cm to closer to 15 cm very rapidly. With sufficient arousal it can often expand to accomodate more than 20 cm.

For the curious, here's an interesting article where MRI images were taken of couples during heterosexual missionary-position intercourse:
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/319/7225/1596

You are just taking all the fun out of this topic. ;)
Amordia
18-10-2006, 16:29
Ok, so this has been on my mind, and I've asked several of my female friends, and several exs throughout the ages this one question. Does size matter? I've gotten mixed answears too, some say no, other says depends, and others say yes. So I think once and for all, for the sake of men's sanity, I think the women own us men, a strong solid answear. Does size matter?
Hm...does size matter? Well in my experience a bigger size is good at times, but it hurts like hell. A smaller size you really can't feel anything, so I would have to say that personally I prefer medium size...
Bottle
18-10-2006, 16:31
You are just taking all the fun out of this topic. ;)
Hey, I think MRI images of sex are fun as hell!

Plus, I think it's good for people to remember that the vagina isn't just some passive recepticle for the penis. It's an active participant in sex! It changes in size and shape much like the penis does, and to an even greater extent in some cases! It's not just a uniform hole, it's got a bunch of cool features and special spots!

If that ain't fun, I don't know what is! :D
The Nazz
18-10-2006, 16:31
i wonder if the lying makes the average increase or decrease. cuz if the guys replying to the survey added a little extra to the figure they put that would put the average up. but i've never seen an average size quoted anywhere particularly reliable so perhaps whoever compiled the figures fiddled with them a little to make themselves feel better, i.e. lowered the average. maybe it all works out correct, who knows, but i'm still inclined to disbelieve any average penis size statistics.

I think it's all in the way men measure their penises. Secure men do it from the top. Insecure men go from the bottom, and consider anything north of the taint to be their cock. ;)
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 16:35
I think it's all in the way men measure their penises. Secure men do it from the top. Insecure men go from the bottom, and consider anything north of the taint to be their cock. ;)

i didn't know about that distinction. and what's the taint?
The Nazz
18-10-2006, 16:52
i didn't know about that distinction. and what's the taint?

It's that little area that "taint dick and taint ass." ;)
Infinite Revolution
18-10-2006, 16:55
It's that little area that "taint dick and taint ass." ;)

oh, haha! gosh, some people are desperate for more dick!
WC Imperial Court
18-10-2006, 20:54
pretty much.

and a plus is once she really likes you, and isn't sleeping around she really doesn't have anything to compare with, and since she is hanging out with you, all of you not just your penis, it's really a non-issue.

seriously you should be thinking more about things you can control, like how you treat her outside of the bedroom which has much more bearing on how much she will enjoy the sex than what you do for 5 minutes in bed. ;-)
I agree with you. Tho if its only 5 minutes that he is in bed with her, that may be more of an issue than his size ;)

Really? Wow... I never had a conversation like this with my friends. We compared condoms, and toys of course, and techniques, but penis sizes? No. That was a non-issue.
Almost all my friends are more innocent than I am. I talk about it with guys more than I do with girls. I am not sure what this says about me...

ah, never thought about that, I pretty much talk to my husband about sex so much that I really don't have to go elsewhere for ideas....other than when I am like "what do you like?" and he is like "whatever you do I like" :rolleyes :P
I hate that shit. If I want tips, give me tips, godangit! Not some mushy, gooey BS. :rolleyes: :p

Smunkee, be fair, that's like asking "Does this make me look fat?" I mean, how are guys supposed to answer that and NOT get yelled at. ;-)
The answer to "Does this make me look fat" is, and always will be "no." If the dress truly is wretched, the correct answer is "No, but I really liked that one better."

As for what do you like, just be honest, for chrissake. I cant see why you'd get yelled at for saying "that thing you do with your tongue" or whatever gets you hot and bothered and then just saying thats what really super turns you on?

LMAO! =D

Does that apply to buying a motorcycle too? :confused:
Probably. But we won't hold that against you. :fluffle:

See, this is why men are convinced that their wives are crazy. ;)
Haha! Men should be convinced their wives are crazy because these women agreed to marry them!

Actually, the average penis is a little under five inches (how sad for the average -- and those below average! :eek: ).
I heard 6.5 inches...

One orgasm, most of the time?
I'm doing significantly more work than necessary here :-(
~snip~

Edit:

I've heard averages from 5 inches to 7 inches. I don't think an accurate value exists.
Honey, ain't nothing wrong with puttin in extra effort ;) :fluffle: Besides, who wants to do only what is necessary?

And you're probably right about the inaccurate averages.

Hm...does size matter? Well in my experience a bigger size is good at times, but it hurts like hell. A smaller size you really can't feel anything, so I would have to say that personally I prefer medium size...

LoL...reminds me of Goldilocks and the 3 bears ;)

As for the OP, I think TLC answered this question: So if you're gonna come you better come with it
If you ain't swingin' just put your tongue in it (oh)
The Nazz
18-10-2006, 21:14
oh, haha! gosh, some people are desperate for more dick!

Like I said, the insecure ones measure from there. ;)
Smunkeeville
18-10-2006, 21:38
I agree with you. Tho if its only 5 minutes that he is in bed with her, that may be more of an issue than his size ;)

believe me, if the guy thinks that his size is what matters in the bedroom, she might as well pray he makes it to five minutes foreplay included. ;)
Ilie
18-10-2006, 21:49
I'm sure this has already been said several pages ago, but you said be honest so here you go. It is the fit between you and the woman, not just YOU. My boyfriend has a huge penis, but it's a little tiny bit too big so we can't do certain things or they'll hurt too much. Even with just regular sex. Also, I've been with guys who feel too small for me, so yeah, that's not very satisfying. You need to find the girl who fits just right.

Barring that, get real good with the way you work it (and your mouth) and it won't matter that much anyway.
Carnivorous Lickers
19-10-2006, 16:59
Actually, the average penis is a little under five inches (how sad for the average -- and those below average! :eek: ).

I cant believe that. I dont know any way they could obtain a truly accurate "average" either.

Maybe I'm ignorant-I dont see many dicks, but 5 inches in length sounds very small.
Cluichstan
19-10-2006, 17:03
I cant believe that. I dont know any way they could obtain a truly accurate "average" either.

Maybe I'm ignorant-I dont see many dicks, but 5 inches in length sounds very small.

Perhaps because you're basing it on letters to Penthouse ("So I slipped her my fine nine..."). :p
Carnivorous Lickers
19-10-2006, 17:09
Perhaps because you're basing it on letters to Penthouse ("So I slipped her my fine nine..."). :p

READ Penthouse ? *L*

No- apparently, it was a topic with my wife and her friends, years ago. Next time I had it out, she measured it with a tape. Her friends then started to flirt and make lewd comments, one calls me "Meat".

Not ten inches, but apparently, larger than their husbands.
New Xero Seven
19-10-2006, 17:19
In the end, does it really matter? You can't change the size of your penis. Well, you could, but there's horrible side-effects, to say, surgery, or other stuff... yeah.

Of course, I'm not female, so I can't speak on behalf of women. Different women have different preferences. So I'll suggest that you go find a woman who doesn't give a shit about the size of your dick.
Bottle
19-10-2006, 17:22
believe me, if the guy thinks that his size is what matters in the bedroom, she might as well pray he makes it to five minutes foreplay included. ;)
Indeed. Not to put too fine a point on it, but a lot of women will be far more concerned about the size of your tongue than anything else...:D
Utracia
19-10-2006, 17:48
I heard 6.5 inches...

Are we talking erect or relaxed state? :confused:
Khadgar
19-10-2006, 18:05
I would imagine condom companies would have very good data on what is average.
Poliwanacraca
19-10-2006, 18:12
I would imagine condom companies would have very good data on what is average.

Actually, I somewhat doubt it. At least one male friend of mine has confessed to buying the extra-super-jumbo size, not because his penis is particularly extra-super-jumbo, but because the girl at the checkout counter was cute. I'd be surprised if many other guys haven't done much the same thing at one point or another. :p
Ashmoria
19-10-2006, 18:13
I would imagine condom companies would have very good data on what is average.

i was just reading that the average condom sold in the US is just over 7inches long (think about the other factors involved) and just over 6 inches in japan.
Ad Pontes
19-10-2006, 18:17
Think of size in terms of boobs - there's no such thing as bad boobs. All boobs are good... but my personal preference is for big ones.

With cocks, some women don't care, some prefer big ones. You can't ask whether the female half of the population in general cares, only whether the signicant other in your life is bothered...
PsychoticDan
19-10-2006, 18:22
Yes and no.

You don't even need to use your penis to give your woman an orgasm. So having a small penis is really no excuse for bad lovemaking. On the other side, any woman who thinks a large penis matters needs to find a man who knows how to please women better. *nod*

However, many men an women don't know this. A large penis is a crutch for the weak. ;)

Got a case of the shorties there? ;) They have cosmetic surgery that can take care of it.


I'll not presume to speak for a woman so I'll just tell you what my woman told me. Size matters. Girth more than length. Women like the feeling of being "filled up." Too big hurts too much to enjoy, but too small is unsatisfying. Every woman is different, but they will all like it bigger up to the point that they start to feel uncomfortable. If she really likes you, size is secondary - up to a point. If you're pathetically small you'll probably need an operation if you ever plan on really satisfying a woman.
Glitziness
19-10-2006, 18:28
I'll not presume to speak for a woman so I'll just tell you what my woman told me. Size matters. Girth more than length. Women like the feeling of being "filled up." Too big hurts too much to enjoy, but too small is unsatisfying. Every woman is different, but they will all like it bigger up to the point that they start to feel uncomfortable. If she really likes you, size is secondary - up to a point. If you're pathetically small you'll probably need an operation if you ever plan on really satisfying a woman.
Not necessarily. I've heard of some women liking a less tight, filled-up feeling, with a different kind of friction.
Liuzzo
19-10-2006, 18:28
:fluffle: yeh, restrooms. but we don't do much resting there in the uk.

size is relevent to each woman and their liking. I'd say that most women would prefer you to be wider than longer as you'll create more sensation that way. There are far more nerve endings to teh side then there are towards the bottom. Plus, if she wanted a partial hysterectomy she'd see the doc. It also helps to have a little bit of rhythm and a bit of varied technique. A woman in a relationship is different as they view sex more as an emtional things and require much more than good vibrations. An american MC recently said "I aint a cuddler I fuck the drool out a chick" and I concur. For a one time throwdown it's about your size and how you move your ass, tounge, fingers, toys..... where's my wife!? Good day all :fluffle:
Pure Metal
19-10-2006, 19:09
Not necessarily. I've heard of some women liking a less tight, filled-up feeling, with a different kind of friction.

uh-oh, that doesn't bode well for me:(
Glitziness
19-10-2006, 19:20
uh-oh, that doesn't bode well for me:(
well.... i don't fit into the category of women i just mentioned. so dont you worry ;) :fluffle:
Ashmoria
19-10-2006, 19:48
uh-oh, that doesn't bode well for me:(

geez pm, you cant be both bigger and smaller than average. as long as youre getting the job done, its good.
Soviestan
19-10-2006, 19:54
My penis is hugh!
Cluichstan
19-10-2006, 19:56
My penis is hugh!

You named your penis Hugh?
Pure Metal
19-10-2006, 19:58
geez pm, you cant be both bigger and smaller than average. as long as youre getting the job done, its good.
huh? :confused:
well.... i don't fit into the category of women i just mentioned. so dont you worry ;) :fluffle:
yay :fluffle:
My penis is hugh!

that's almost my name...
Soviestan
19-10-2006, 19:59
You named your penis Hugh?

Yes,o of course. Its fitting, you didnt?
Cluichstan
19-10-2006, 20:01
Yes,o of course. Its fitting, you didnt?

No, but I had a gf at uni that dubbed it Lazarus... ;)
Pan-Arab Barronia
19-10-2006, 23:34
Ok, so this has been on my mind, and I've asked several of my female friends, and several exs throughout the ages this one question. Does size matter? I've gotten mixed answears too, some say no, other says depends, and others say yes. So I think once and for all, for the sake of men's sanity, I think the women own us men, a strong solid answear. Does size matter?

I hold with my opinion - "it's not the size of the wave, it's the motion in the ocean".

God bless my dad. He rocks.
Daemonocracy
19-10-2006, 23:37
Ok, so this has been on my mind, and I've asked several of my female friends, and several exs throughout the ages this one question. Does size matter? I've gotten mixed answears too, some say no, other says depends, and others say yes. So I think once and for all, for the sake of men's sanity, I think the women own us men, a strong solid answear. Does size matter?

can't be too big and can't be too small.

and if you are ready and willing to go down...size don't matter.
Bitchkitten
19-10-2006, 23:49
Tiny is not good, but neither is huge. Medium size is best. Enough to, well, fill you up, but not break anything.
Terrorist Cakes
20-10-2006, 00:02
To me, not really. See, I choose relationships based on factors outside of just plain old sex. If I were choosing a husband, or something, sex life would be something I'd need to consider, but just a casual relationship, then no. Then again, I probably fall into the "so desperate, any guy would do category," so...
Helspotistan
20-10-2006, 00:14
The Thing is Women vary just as much as guys.. just its less obvious due to them being all coy and keeping their bits all wrapped up inside.
I have had partners where I was too big and you had to be very careful not to cause them pain and I have had partners where it was like throwing a sausage down a corridor...
Its like any part of a physical relationship it all depends on the fit. I have been with a woman who was 4'11' and I am 6'1' I felt like a child molester even though she was 4 years older than me.. she had to stand on a chair in order to give me a kiss goodbye :) And I have been with a girl who was a good couple of inches taller than me.. its pretty weird seing things from the other side. My wife is just the right height, not that that is why I am with her mind...
But when it comes down to comparing with guys bigger is always better. Muscles, Height... even beer gutts.. not sure why.. it seems to be just the way things are done?
So if you ask does size matter.. sure.. maybe. But it only needs to be bigger for the boys :)
Katganistan
20-10-2006, 00:17
Ok, so this has been on my mind, and I've asked several of my female friends, and several exs throughout the ages this one question. Does size matter? I've gotten mixed answears too, some say no, other says depends, and others say yes. So I think once and for all, for the sake of men's sanity, I think the women own us men, a strong solid answear. Does size matter?

To some women, yes. To others, no.
Then you have guys who are adequate or more than on size but are lousy at technique.
Then you have guys who know how best to use what they've got.
What does any of it matter, though, if it's not someone you're emotionally attached to?

Why do you assume all women are the same, or that there is, pardon the pun, a one-size fits all answer?
Dodudodu
20-10-2006, 00:38
So can we get the "perfect size?"
The Nazz
20-10-2006, 02:03
To some women, yes. To others, no.
Then you have guys who are adequate or more than on size but are lousy at technique.
Then you have guys who know how best to use what they've got.
What does any of it matter, though, if it's not someone you're emotionally attached to?

Why do you assume all women are the same, or that there is, pardon the pun, a one-size fits all answer?

In the end, what the question really proves is that the person asking it doesn't understand or doesn't care that there's another person on the end of his fuckstick--it's all about his cock, don'tcha know?
New Xero Seven
20-10-2006, 02:09
So can we get the "perfect size?"

What is perfection?
Bottle
20-10-2006, 13:15
So can we get the "perfect size?"
Somebody hasn't been reading the thread.

And somebody also hasn't been paying the least attention to his partners (if any). Have you somehow not noticed that women come in different sizes and shapes? Would you honestly ask for the single "perfect" shoe size that fits all women? Well, then why ask for the "perfect" penis size? What is perfect for one woman will be uncomfortable for another. Duh.
Bottle
20-10-2006, 13:16
In the end, what the question really proves is that the person asking it doesn't understand or doesn't care that there's another person on the end of his fuckstick--it's all about his cock, don'tcha know?
Exactly. Personally, I'm inclined to tell guys like that, "Don't even bother fucking unless it's at least 12 inches long," in the hopes that they will develop such an inferiority complex that they'll never be able to get near a woman again. :D
The Nazz
20-10-2006, 13:20
Exactly. Personally, I'm inclined to tell guys like that, "Don't even bother fucking unless it's at least 12 inches long," in the hopes that they will develop such an inferiority complex that they'll never be able to get near a woman again. :D

Well, porn has driven a lot of the insecurity (as well as the more recent move toward shaved vaginas, which drives me nuts).
Bottle
20-10-2006, 13:26
Well, porn has driven a lot of the insecurity (as well as the more recent move toward shaved vaginas, which drives me nuts).
Any guy stupid enough to think that porn reflects reality should not be fucking in the first place. He's clearly so dull that he'll probably try to stick it in her ear or something.

I mean, come on dudes. You really think that hot nude women just randomly splay themselves out on pool tables for fat, flabby, middle-aged men? You think that when women masturbate they are wearing 3 inch fake nails (OUCH!) and high heels?

If so, I've got a time-share proposal I'd love to run by you...;)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-10-2006, 14:05
Well, porn has driven a lot of the insecurity (as well as the more recent move toward shaved vaginas, which drives me nuts).

Any guy stupid enough to think that porn reflects reality should not be fucking in the first place. He's clearly so dull that he'll probably try to stick it in her ear or something.

I mean, come on dudes. You really think that hot nude women just randomly splay themselves out on pool tables for fat, flabby, middle-aged men? You think that when women masturbate they are wearing 3 inch fake nails (OUCH!) and high heels?

If so, I've got a time-share proposal I'd love to run by you...;)
WORD (not least on the "OUCH" >.<).

Although I still think that today's kids who are practically growing up with easily available internet porn of the sort you're talking about can't really be faulted that much for believing it to some degree to be a projection of reality. I mean, hell, it's practically all they ever see of nude women and sex before they actually ever see a nude woman and have sex themselves.
Bottle
20-10-2006, 14:12
WORD (not least on the "OUCH" >.<).

Although I still think that today's kids who are practically growing up with easily available internet porn of the sort you're talking about can't really be faulted that much for believing it to some degree to be a projection of reality. I mean, hell, it's practically all they ever see of nude women and sex before they actually ever see a nude woman and have sex themselves.
The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the misconceptions about the female body that are being set up by porn.

For instance:

Normal, healthy boobs change shape when a woman lies down. They do not remain perfectly spherical and pointing at the ceiling.

The majority of women do not regularly experience orgasm from simply having a penis inserted into their vagina and thrust around a bit. It doesn't matter how big it is. If you are with a woman who doesn't experience orgasm from having your dick in her, that doesn't necessarily mean you're too small or that you're "doing it wrong." She may just be one of the majority of women who don't experience orgasm this way. Learn to love the clitoris.

There is no G-spot in the back of a woman's throat, no matter what the porn stars seem to be showing you.

Personally, I think there should be elective high school sex ed courses that cover things like this. I'd teach it for free. :D
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-10-2006, 14:14
The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the misconceptions about the female body that are being set up by porn.

For instance:

Normal, healthy boobs change shape when a woman lies down. They do not remain perfectly spherical and pointing at the ceiling.

The majority of women do not regularly experience orgasm from simply having a penis inserted into their vagina and thrust around a bit. It doesn't matter how big it is. If you are with a woman who doesn't experience orgasm from having your dick in her, that doesn't necessarily mean you're too small or that you're "doing it wrong." She may just be one of the majority of women who don't experience orgasm this way. Learn to love the clitoris.

There is no G-spot in the back of a woman's throat, no matter what the porn stars seem to be showing you.

Personally, I think there should be elective high school sex ed courses that cover things like this. I'd teach it for free. :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. The bolded part is almost literally what I posted a long while back in a "Cosmetic Surgery" thread we once had...
Fascist Dominion
20-10-2006, 15:20
Yes and no.

You don't even need to use your penis to give your woman an orgasm. So having a small penis is really no excuse for bad lovemaking. On the other side, any woman who thinks a large penis matters needs to find a man who knows how to please women better. *nod*

However, many men an women don't know this. A large penis is a crutch for the weak. ;)
Hehe, G-spot, my friends, G-spot.;)
Wallet?
Gravlen would be proud.:cool:
it's because assholes have confidence, or at least bluster, and frequently use flattery to get the girl, or guy. both confidence and flattery are very attractive if done right.
They are indeed. And a good voice certainly doesn't hurt, either. *nods*
Possibly... to be honest, I woudn't even know my boyfriends exact measurements. ;-)
Long and wide enough?:confused: Sounds about right anyway, I'm sure... *shrugs*
true......I guess if he came up with something that I don't do I would be like "who does that to you!?" with that scary look I have, but only today because I have PMS.... LOL

the man has no fantasy life, he just doesn't care to, he says that life with me is his fantasy......WTF!?

I don't even know what to do with that information
Hahahaha! I say stuff like that to my girlfriend. Kinda has the opposite effect, though.:D
There are a few women who report experiencing pleasure when their cervix is stimulated, but it's actually more likely that what you are contacting is the cul-de-sac. When a woman is aroused, the uterus lifts up a bit and exposes the cul-de-sac area. Many women report intense orgasms when this area is stimulated during sex.
*takes notes*
Hey, I think MRI images of sex are fun as hell!

Plus, I think it's good for people to remember that the vagina isn't just some passive recepticle for the penis. It's an active participant in sex! It changes in size and shape much like the penis does, and to an even greater extent in some cases! It's not just a uniform hole, it's got a bunch of cool features and special spots!

If that ain't fun, I don't know what is! :D
I should imagine actually utilizing those cool features and special spots is much more fun.
that's almost my name...
I'm sure there's an uncanny resemblance, too.... <.<
No, but I had a gf at uni that dubbed it Lazarus... ;)
ROFL! Nice.;)
To me, not really. See, I choose relationships based on factors outside of just plain old sex. If I were choosing a husband, or something, sex life would be something I'd need to consider, but just a casual relationship, then no. Then again, I probably fall into the "so desperate, any guy would do category," so...
Well, with that attitude, of course you fall into that category.:p
What is perfection?

That depends. What is the self?
Pure Metal
20-10-2006, 15:24
The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the misconceptions about the female body that are being set up by porn.

For instance:

Normal, healthy boobs change shape when a woman lies down. They do not remain perfectly spherical and pointing at the ceiling.

The majority of women do not regularly experience orgasm from simply having a penis inserted into their vagina and thrust around a bit. It doesn't matter how big it is. If you are with a woman who doesn't experience orgasm from having your dick in her, that doesn't necessarily mean you're too small or that you're "doing it wrong." She may just be one of the majority of women who don't experience orgasm this way. Learn to love the clitoris.
hooray for the clitoris! :) :) :fluffle:

...You think that when women masturbate they are wearing 3 inch fake nails (OUCH!) and high heels? ...

heels? yes. because i make her* ;) :p
(*or, ask her kindly to if its not too much trouble.... :P)
Dinaverg
20-10-2006, 15:30
To me, not really. See, I choose relationships based on factors outside of just plain old sex. If I were choosing a husband, or something, sex life would be something I'd need to consider, but just a casual relationship, then no. Then again, I probably fall into the "so desperate, any guy would do category," so...

Yay! Well, not yay for you being desperate, but...

Ah, forget it, I'll start over.
Fascist Dominion
20-10-2006, 15:35
Yay! Well, not yay for you being desperate, but...

Ah, forget it, I'll start over.

j00 phael!
Dinaverg
20-10-2006, 15:40
j00 phael!

Let's see you do better. Then I'll steal it.

Well, with that attitude, of course you fall into that category.:p
Fascist Dominion
20-10-2006, 15:42
Let's see you do better. Then I'll steal it.

I'm not the one trying to woo her. *shrugs*
Smunkeeville
20-10-2006, 15:44
Hahahaha! I say stuff like that to my girlfriend. Kinda has the opposite effect, though.:D

one can assume then that your girlfriend is not crazy irrational, and over analyitical the the point of being insane?
Fascist Dominion
20-10-2006, 15:52
one can assume then that your girlfriend is not crazy irrational, and over analyitical the the point of being insane?

One assumes incorrectly.:p She's just absolutely infatuated with me.:cool: She thinks it's cute.:D
Bottle
20-10-2006, 16:15
*takes notes*


Hmm, maybe I should get to work teaching that "Sex Ed" class after all...

:D
Dinaverg
20-10-2006, 16:22
Hmm, maybe I should get to work teaching that "Sex Ed" class after all...

:D

I'm so signing up.
Bottle
20-10-2006, 16:30
I'm so signing up.
Something tells me the mods would lock a thread entitled, "Answers To Sex Questions." But that's the only thing stopping me. ;)
Dinaverg
20-10-2006, 16:31
Something tells me the mods would lock a thread entitled, "Answers To Sex Questions." But that's the only thing stopping me. ;)

Well...There's always Gabbly, no? Besides, I'm sure you could get some mods on your side...perhaps notably female ones.
Smunkeeville
20-10-2006, 16:32
Something tells me the mods would lock a thread entitled, "Answers To Sex Questions." But that's the only thing stopping me. ;)

you know.....I don't remember what happened to the penis thread that was started in my honor, I don't remember any bannings or locking or moving to spam....
Philosopy
20-10-2006, 16:35
you know.....I don't remember what happened to the penis thread that was started in my honor, I don't remember any bannings or locking or moving to spam....

They do tend to get deleted as soon as the Mods noticed them. There was once a masturbation thread that went on for ages and had essentially died out before it was spotted, but it got spaminated nevertheless. There really is a zero tolerance approach to anything too explicit.
Smunkeeville
20-10-2006, 16:37
They do tend to get deleted as soon as the Mods noticed them. There was once a masturbation thread that went on for ages and had essentially died out before it was spotted, but it got spaminated nevertheless. There really is a zero tolerance approach to anything too explicit.

the penis thread wasn't explicit though, it was about penis not really much else....I mean it's no different than a thread about toes.
Dinaverg
20-10-2006, 16:43
the penis thread wasn't explicit though, it was about penis not really much else....I mean it's no different than a thread about toes.

...

Hehehe...
Pure Metal
20-10-2006, 16:44
They do tend to get deleted as soon as the Mods noticed them. There was once a masturbation thread that went on for ages and had essentially died out before it was spotted, but it got spaminated nevertheless. There really is a zero tolerance approach to anything too explicit.

i think the thing that really matters is what's in the title, not so much the content
Compulsive Depression
20-10-2006, 16:57
i think the thing that really matters is what's in the title, not so much the content

So you call it "How to keep the cat happy" and everybody merrily gets on with their little* lives :)

Oh, replies to some stuff I can't be bothered to quote:
Being shaved has the advantage of not having to pick hairs out of your mouth. It's not nearly so important as being clean (and even if you do shave, you don't need to go pre-pubescent-like bald) but it's nice. IMO, YMMV, as with everything else in this topic.
Porn stars wearing shoes all the time's pretty obvious; you never know what you might tread on.
I saw a woman in real life (on the tube) with those scary 3" talon-fingernails. I don't think they were fake, either. How would you do anything? It'd be almost like being disabled! :eek:

*Hehe ;)