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My Theory:

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1. There is a god. (Not saying how many or which)

2. We are imagined by real beings. I have the best argument for this. People use the phrase "I think therefor I am" but you may have been Imagined with the ability to think or think that you think. (Tongue tied yet?:p )

3. Evolution.

4. We have always been and always will.

5. We where made by other people and where dumped here like lab mice.(Might get vaporized for catching on...)
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What do you think?

I'll ask you the question that people have been asking Berkely then.

If we are merely ideas in the mind of God, why are you telling us this?

Yeah, I always thought that the whole extra-terrestrial creation thing was actually viable.

I'll ask you the question that people have been asking Berkely then.

If we are merely ideas in the mind of God, why are you telling us this?

Because without me telling you God is nothin?

Yeah, I always thought that the whole extra-terrestrial creation thing was actually viable.

It is.

I always thought that earth was like big alien experiment, and they introduce random things to see what happens. Like religion.
*hides from fundies*

I always thought that earth was like big alien experiment, and they introduce random things to see what happens. Like religion.
*hides from fundies*

yup g2g to bed now.

I perfer the idea that god (God) created us to be "little playthings" so that he can have all the fun he wants with us. And since he's the supreme being of the universe, he can do whatever he wants with us, and we can't do SHIT to stop him.

yup g2g to bed now.

Nighty night, don't let the bed bugs bite. :p

I had a weird theory that god created the universe and the laws it adheres to, then when he created life he used a bit of himself to "breathe life" into our bodies? So god has ceased to exist as a whole but exists still within all life, and some human beings (jesus, buddha, Muhammed, Steven Hawking, etc.) Somehow became aware of the divine spark within them...




is this stupid??

I'll ask you the question that people have been asking Berkely then.

If we are merely ideas in the mind of God, why are you telling us this?

5. We where made by other people and where dumped here like lab mice.(Might get vaporized for catching on...)

he wants us all vaporized.

he wants us all vaporized.

If we aren't real, does it matter?

I had a weird theory that god created the universe and the laws it adheres to, then when he created life he used a bit of himself to "breathe life" into our bodies? So god has ceased to exist as a whole but exists still within all life, and some human beings (jesus, buddha, Muhammed, Steven Hawking, etc.) Somehow became aware of the divine spark within them...

No, there's a concept very much like that in which God became the universe, and our purpose is to reconstruct God by striving to enact that essence within us.

I read it on Wikipedia earlier today...given my luck, I probably won't find it.

Read "God's Debris" by Scott Adams. It's kinda sorta along those lines.

St Jello Biafra;11824168']Read "God's Debris" by Scott Adams. It's kinda sorta along those lines.

That's what I meant! Thanks a bunch, because now I remember the name of the concept: Pandeism. :cool:

That's what I meant! Thanks a bunch, because now I remember the name of the concept: Pandeism. :cool:

Anytime.

Because without me telling you God is nothin?

God does not exist without being perceived?

Then how can we be beings in the mind of God, if God is a being in our minds?

God does not exist without being perceived?

I imagine according to a solipsist viewpoint, yes. But then again, if by perceiving God you create him, doesn't that make you God?

Then how can we be beings in the mind of God, if God is a being in our minds?

Well, either we are God or that supposition is flawed. And since I lack the ability to alter my reality beyond the laws of physics, I'd have to say the supposition is flawed.

I imagine according to a solipsist viewpoint, yes. But then again, if by perceiving God you create him, doesn't that make you God?



Well, either we are God or that supposition is flawed. And since I lack the ability to alter my reality beyond the laws of physics, I'd have to say the supposition is flawed.

I admit that my grasp on solipsism is, at best, weak, and that I was merely engaging in Socratic argument for the sake of further understanding the arguement, but that is the great paradox of solipsism.

"If we are merely thoughts in the mind of God, how then, can God exist, if he is not perceived. If we, as ideas, may perceive him, then we cannot be ideas."

Unless it's a Schroedinger thing, and God both exists and doesn't exist until he is observed.

I admit that my grasp on solipsism is, at best, weak, and that I was merely engaging in Socratic argument for the sake of further understanding the arguement, but that is the great paradox of solipsism.

And that's one of the reasons I don't subscribe to solipsism (Occam's Razor being another).

"If we are merely thoughts in the mind of God, how then, can God exist, if he is not perceived. If we, as ideas, may perceive him, then we cannot be ideas."

Unless it's a Schroedinger thing, and God both exists and doesn't exist until he is observed.

I guess Schroedingerian Agnosticism is too much of a mouthful for the idea, but that's pretty much what that could be considered. :confused:

And that's one of the reasons I don't subscribe to solipsism (Occam's Razor being another).

I've always just shrugged and said. "It doesn't really matter. Either way, I still exist to myself, so it isn't a relevant question."

I guess Schroedingerian Agnosticism is too much of a mouthful for the idea, but that's pretty much what that could be considered. :confused:

I don't know that it is agnosticism, per se, because it is both atheistic and theistic, until God is observed. Once God has been "Observed" (technically an impossibility, for mortals), he is defined, but until then he is AND is not.