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So it would seem that our friend Bill O'Reilly seems to fancy himself a doctor these days. On his Oct. 11th show, he claimed that it is never the case that a womans life can be at risk from giving birth. He claims, incorrectly, that you can always have a C-section and do those kinds of things
First of all, that is wholly false, as stated in the article. Second of all, a C-section and "those kinds of things"? Wow. How specific. Third of all, last I knew, O'Reilly has a BA from Marist in history and an MA in broadcast journalism from BU. As far as I can tell, he is in absolutly no position to say that there is no case that a birth can be fatal to the mother. Not only is he incorrect, he is directly lying and spreading false information, and clearly not checking the most basic of facts.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610160007

(yes, I realize that media matters isn't the most unbiased source, but it contains the sound clip, as well as accurate information about the risks of birth)

Hmm Papa Bear talking out of his ass, that's a shocker.

Hmm Papa Bear talking out of his ass, that's a shocker.

Generally, I'm used to it. But this is really blatant, and potentially harmful, information to spread

There are always going to be freak accidents -- 99.99% of the time, however, everything will go fine.

There are always going to be freak accidents -- 99.99% of the time, however, everything will go fine.

Source of that statistic? Other than your rectal cavity?

There are always going to be freak accidents -- 99.99% of the time, however, everything will go fine.

Ectopic pregnancies (http://www.webmd.com/content/article/88/99785.htm)occur one out of 50.

There is also preclampsia and eclampsia (http://www.webmd.com/content/article/51/40800.htm) to consider.

these numbers were in the article, if you had bothered to read it.

He's also Dr Love, its why he had to pay a fortune to the woman he sexually harassed.

Ectopic pregnancies (http://www.webmd.com/content/article/88/99785.htm)occur one out of 50.

I thought he was talking about C-sections, not conditions which are present before the delivery.

I thought he was talking about C-sections, not conditions which are present before the delivery.

http://www.manatee.k12.fl.us/SITES/ELEMENTARY/PALMASOLA/readcompex.htm

I thought he was talking about C-sections, not conditions which are present before the delivery.

No, he said that there is never a case when a pregnancy can be fatal to the mother. That is incorrect. A c-section will in NO way resolve eclampsia or ectopic pregnancies.

He probably checked with Dr. Frist, the reknowned video-tape diagnostician.

(yes, I realize that media matters isn't the most unbiased source, but it contains the sound clip, as well as accurate information about the risks of birth)

Though Media Matters almost always focuses on the Right, they are usually pretty good when it comes to getting facts straight. They would get more respect if they focused on everyone though.

Hmm Papa Bear talking out of his ass, that's a shocker.

Pretentious blowhard is the work you want.:D

Bad form that, he really should have done some basic research before spewing that drivel.

No, he said that there is never a case when a pregnancy can be fatal to the mother. That is incorrect. A c-section will in NO way resolve eclampsia or ectopic pregnancies.

With proper medical treatment, a pregnancy is indeed perfectly safe. If you opt not to go to a licensed doctor, then you run the risk of dying. However, the conditions mentioned are easily treatable and should not prove fatal if you are in competent hands.

Though Media Matters almost always focuses on the Right, they are usually pretty good when it comes to getting facts straight. They would get more respect if they focused on everyone though.

I really wish they would. The articles they do publish are good, such as this one...sadly, they still show too much bias

With proper medical treatment, a pregnancy is indeed perfectly safe. If you opt not to go to a licensed doctor, then you run the risk of dying. However, the conditions mentioned are easily treatable and should not prove fatal if you are in competent hands.

it COULD be treatable. They are not always easy to diagnose. Women don't always know something is wrong, tests aren't always accurate, sonigrams can misrepresent what is there. It has surprisingly little to do with competence

With proper medical treatment, a pregnancy is indeed perfectly safe. If you opt not to go to a licensed doctor, then you run the risk of dying. However, the conditions mentioned are easily treatable and should not prove fatal if you are in competent hands.

Please stop just saying things. You have the internet in front of you. I know this for a fact. Find things, link to these things. Take baby steps at first. Link to something. Link to anything at all.

With proper medical treatment, a pregnancy is indeed perfectly safe. If you opt not to go to a licensed doctor, then you run the risk of dying. However, the conditions mentioned are easily treatable and should not prove fatal if you are in competent hands.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3634/is_199611/ai_n8754934

Don't let reality get in your way.

it COULD be treatable. They are not always easy to diagnose. Women don't always know something is wrong, tests aren't always accurate, sonigrams can misrepresent what is there. It has surprisingly little to do with competence

Not to mention the fact that there are times where nothing can be done at all.

I wonder if MTAE ever gets sick of getting owned on here? Every time he says something stupid, even in spite of his arguing untenable positions.

I wonder if MTAE ever gets sick of getting owned on here? Every time he says something stupid, even in spite of his arguing untenable positions.

He's bested UN Ambassadorship for the best troll NS has ever seen. Let him have his fun. We all know it's Lunatic Goofballs anyway.

As for O'Reilly blatently lying about something such as this...why are you surprised? It's O'Reilly, for the world's sake.

He's bested UN Ambassadorship for the best troll NS has ever seen. Let him have his fun. We all know it's Lunatic Goofballs anyway.

As for O'Reilly blatently lying about something such as this...why are you surprised? It's O'Reilly, for the world's sake.
UN was a punk compared to Jesussaves.


and I'm surprised because it potentially puts women who choose to listen at risk for the sake of his political motives

UN was a punk compared to Jesussaves.


and I'm surprised because it potentially puts women who choose to listen at risk for the sake of his political motives

As if Bill "Heavy Breather" O'Reilly cares about women.

Am I too late to make a pun about Bill O'Reilly practicing his medical skills doctoring the truth?

Am I too late to make a pun about Bill O'Reilly practicing his medical skills doctoring the truth?
Nope. Think you squeezed it right in there.

O'Reilly is entertaining. Shit, GWB called him "factor" during the 2004 'presidential' interview instead of Bill or O'reilly. It's a product.

With proper medical treatment, a pregnancy is indeed perfectly safe. If you opt not to go to a licensed doctor, then you run the risk of dying. However, the conditions mentioned are easily treatable and should not prove fatal if you are in competent hands.

You are woefully misinformed.

http://www.parathyroid.com/pregnancy.htm
http://www.womenfitness.net/obes_and_preg.htm
http://www.who.int/reproductive-health/publications/MSM_94_11/MSM_94_11_chapter1.en.html
http://www.prb.org/Template.cfm?Section=PRB&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7746
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breech_birth
http://www.crlp.org/pdf/pub_fac_adoles_maternalhealth.pdf
http://www.prcdc.org/summaries/matmort/matmort.html
http://www.safemotherhood.org/facts_and_figures/maternal_mortality.htm
http://www.motherfriendly.org/Downloads/csec-fact-sheet.pdf

You are woefully misinformed.

On the plus side, it's not like he'll ever get laid, so it's not really information he needs. ;)

You know, this reminds me of V for Vendetta. Bill O'Reilly is the news-caster guy who's spreading false information in order to advance the power of the government.

There are always going to be freak accidents -- 99.99% of the time, however, everything will go fine.

Uh, no. Just no. Pregnancy and birth are extremely dangerous, and it not rare for a miscarriage, serious bodily harm to the mother, or death to happen.

On the plus side, it's not like he'll ever get laid, so it's not really information he needs. ;)On the off chance that he does, he's probably not going to use protection though :(