NationStates Jolt Archive

Poll coming soon....

Which country do you feel is doing the most good or showing the best benefits to the world in today's times?

Which country do you feel is showing the "Best Leadership Role" in leading the world?

All of those options suck.

Luxembourg.

With the amount of aid given out, and the fortitude to do what they believe is right in a world critical of their decisions for various reasons, how could this not be the United States? I know some will be critical of certain policies, but take the United States away and tell me what the world would look like.

North Korea.

Alright, who voted for France?

Ladonia FTW!

http://www.ladonia.net/index.html

With the amount of aid given out, and the fortitude to do what they believe is right in a world critical of their decisions for various reasons, how could this not be the United States? I know some will be critical of certain policies, but take the United States away and tell me what the world would look like.

Hmm.. well condidering the huge landmass you're talking about removing I guess the sea's would be a lot shallower and that would reveal much more land..

But politically? Hell I don't know..

None. Noone. Nobody. Nada.

russia:D ... keeps the fuck away from anything that does not concern them directly... that's the best way to go i reckon

also it can keep in line anyone who dares challange them in any way, both through military and economic power (i mean energy, raw materials and the likes...)

Nobody. I can't think of single nation in the world today that is actually fulfilling a leadership role. All I see everywhere I look is an international gaggle of politicians searching for their own asses with both hands and flashlights and failing to find them.

Antarctica, if it counts.

Antarctica, if it counts.

As good as any. :D

Alright, who voted for France?
I did.

Hmmmmmm.....

I'd say either the UK or France is doing best morally, but that Iran is being the Best Leader of Nations right now...

I don't see any country showing more leadership than the USA.

If that doesn't scare you, I don't know what will.

Personally I have liked where Sweden is going … Economically I would do otherwise but socially I like where they are going for the most part.

I don't see any country showing more leadership than the USA.

If that doesn't scare you, I don't know what will.

There are two parts to “leadership” having a good message and broadcasting your message loud and wide and convincing others

The USA is loud, and somewhat good at convincing others (though we are loosing ground on that every day)

But I don’t think our current message is as good as it should be, and if we continue to fail that we will probably loose the other parts eventually too

No country really can compare to the US in leadership. I mean, come on, France is a whiny pushover, the UK agrees with the US on EVERYTHING, Germany I think is the only nation that can come close.

France is a whiny pushover

Yea, they were a real pushover when the US wanted them to join their ill-advised and shambolic invasion of Iraq, and instead did the right thing, whatever the reasons were.

Yea, what a whiny pushover.

It may surprise you somewhat to learn that your view of France, shared by much of the US, is not a view shared by most of the rest of the world. Likewise your view of the US.

France is a whiny pushover

You're either being sarcastic, or you're extremely ignorant.

Yea, they were a real pushover when the US wanted them to join their ill-advised and shambolic invasion of Iraq, and instead did the right thing, whatever the reasons were.

Yea, what a whiny pushover.
Several things wrong with your post....
First, you ASSUME the Iraq war is wrong. So, things would be all better if Saddam was still throwing people into woodchippers eh?
Second, France bows to the foolish will of the people, they care more about meaningless rights then they do about running the country. They have little to no will, the only reason they refused the Iraq war is, LOOK AT THE FRENCH MILITARY. They couldn't invade the Vatican, let alone Iraq.

You're either being sarcastic, or you're extremely ignorant.

See previous post

You're either being sarcastic, or you're extremely ignorant.

I think it's too much to hope for the former. :(

Several things wrong with your post....
First, you ASSUME the Iraq war is wrong. So, things would be all better if Saddam was still throwing people into woodchippers eh?
Second, France bows to the foolish will of the people, they care more about meaningless rights then they do about running the country. They have little to no will, the only reason they refused the Iraq war is, LOOK AT THE FRENCH MILITARY. They couldn't invade the Vatican, let alone Iraq.

ahahahhahaahahaha, sorry:p

With the amount of aid given out, and the fortitude to do what they believe is right in a world critical of their decisions for various reasons, how could this not be the United States? I know some will be critical of certain policies, but take the United States away and tell me what the world would look like.

Considering that Japan gives far more in aid than the U.S. does...

Ariddia, I remind you again, we're not all like him. :(

Ariddia, I remind you again, we're not all like him. :(

Well, not all of you are zealots like myself....

i was serios when i said in a previous post that the french military could easily take on the american military... the only field where the americans are obviously superior is the navy... but thats about it:D

Several things wrong with your post....
First, you ASSUME the Iraq war is wrong. So, things would be all better if Saddam was still throwing people into woodchippers eh?

Yes, all the news coming out of Iraq for the last few years certainly suggests that it is a much safer, friendlier, and quieter place to live, with far more accessible resources for the people and better public services, than it was pre-invasion.

Truly, Iraq today is the Iraq of the future.

Second, France bows to the foolish will of the people

Oh, you mean they're democratic?

Yeah, curse those troublesome democracies. Just as well Iraq is in no danger of falling into that trap!

i was serios when i said in a previous post that the french military could easily take on the american military... the only field where the americans are obviously superior is the navy... but thats about it:D

I don't think the French military could take one of our street gangs.

Several things wrong with your post....
First, you ASSUME the Iraq war is wrong. So, things would be all better if Saddam was still throwing people into woodchippers eh?
Second, France bows to the foolish will of the people, they care more about meaningless rights then they do about running the country. They have little to no will, the only reason they refused the Iraq war is, LOOK AT THE FRENCH MILITARY. They couldn't invade the Vatican, let alone Iraq.

Some days I think the Vatican deserves being invaded as much as anyone

i was serios when i said in a previous post that the french military could easily take on the american military... the only field where the americans are obviously superior is the navy... but thats about it:D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Are you nuts? The French military has NO decent hardware, they even lack the Eurofighter! French infantry have little to no training. Put an Abrams against any French tank, watch the carnage :P

I don't think the French military could take one of our street gangs.

maybe not but do you really think YOUR military can? :rolleyes:

They couldn't invade the Vatican,

Anyone else amused by how he managed to pick a country guarded by the best-trained and equipped military on the entire planet?

Several things wrong with your post....
First, you ASSUME the Iraq war is wrong. So, things would be all better if Saddam was still throwing people into woodchippers eh?
Well... at least people weren't killing each other as much.
Second, France bows to the foolish will of the people, they care more about meaningless rights then they do about running the country.
OMG, teh French are teh weak! Stupid democracy! LOL!!
They have little to no will, the only reason they refused the Iraq war is, LOOK AT THE FRENCH MILITARY. They couldn't invade the Vatican, let alone Iraq.
What about it? One of the best militaries in the world. You overestimate the Holy See.


On topic, I think the US comes closest, altough all because of sheer size and loudness.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Are you nuts? The French military has NO decent hardware, they even lack the Eurofighter! French infantry have little to no training. Put an Abrams against any French tank, watch the carnage :P

And of course, you're the expert on that sort of matters.....

Yes, all the news coming out of Iraq for the last few years certainly suggests that it is a much safer, friendlier, and quieter place to live, with far more accessible resources for the people and better public services, than it was pre-invasion.

Truly, Iraq today is the Iraq of the future.



Oh, you mean they're democratic?

Yeah, curse those troublesome democracies. Just as well Iraq is in no danger of falling into that trap!

Democracy does not work, when rights become the only concern. It is that simple, and if you like I will explain why. And if you belive the media, you are an idiot, talk to someone who has been there.

And of course, you're the expert on that sort of matters.....

Expert? No, but I am enough of an armchair general to tell you the french military is foolish. BTW, thanks for all the pro-Vatican posts. They would smash ANYONE

Do the die-hard American Patritots not realise that France is ALOT more respected by the international community than America is, and that would make them the better international leader?

Or has Faux News not reported that?

Do the die-hard American Patritots not realise that France is ALOT more respected by the international community than America is, and that would make them the better international leader?

Or has Faux News not reported that?

Yes! God forbid the international community not love and respect us, oh wait. The International community didn't respect the newbord USA either, yet we are raised to belive that is was the greatest thing ever. The opinions of the foolish international community (led by that sham we call the UN) are meaningless.

Democracy does not work, when rights become the only concern. It is that simple, and if you like I will explain why. And if you belive the media, you are an idiot, talk to someone who has been there.

And what, pray tell, is more important than rights?

Democracy does not work, when rights become the only concern. It is that simple, and if you like I will explain why.

Please do, I am literally falling over myself to hear this.

now!too easy
i never knew i was one of it

None of the above x2 thank you very much indeed.

If I have to choose, I'll go with Japan.

Yes! God forbid the international community not love and respect us, oh wait. The International community didn't respect the newbord USA either, yet we are raised to belive that is was the greatest thing ever. The opinions of the foolish international community (led by that sham we call the UN) are meaningless.

We don’t live in a vacuum and we would not have the power we do now without the “international community”

To think that we do is simply ignorant

We don’t live in a vacuum and we would not have the power we do now without the “international community”

To think that we do is simply ignorant

I think it's very possible that the US wouldn't be in this foreign policy mess it's now in if it had, in fact, listened to the "international community", or at least paid some attention to them.

None. The only country with the military, economic and political might to lead the world in the ways we need on issues involving global warming, resource depletion, over population, terrorism, etc... is the U.S. and we elected a fucking moron and alienated the world. Now it's more like every man for himself out there.

I don't mean to offend Sol but it is precisely this kind of not listening to others and shoutiness (not sure that's a word, oh well) that may make other nations respect the US a teensy bit less:

It's kind of like seeing the biggest, richest and loudest kid on the playground feel the need to mouth off despite his obvious starting advantage...

I think it's very possible that the US wouldn't be in this foreign policy mess it's now in if it had, in fact, listened to the "international community", or at least paid some attention to them.

Very possibly, and it is just this kind of high handed FU behavior that pisses the rest of the world off.

I don’t care if the rest of the world LOVES us but to throw away ideas simply BECAUSE the rest of the world shares them with us is idiotic

I have no idea why everyone voted for france, when their government leadership is not brilliant, especially in terms of diplomacy with other countries.

Maybe it is because they seem to be more liberal, even though they are conservative.

I would have to Say Jordan. the've been surrounded by wars in nearly every direction and have somehow managed to stay at peace. Well done Jordan.

Several things wrong with your post....
First, you ASSUME the Iraq war is wrong. So, things would be all better if Saddam was still throwing people into woodchippers eh?
Second, France bows to the foolish will of the people, they care more about meaningless rights then they do about running the country. They have little to no will, the only reason they refused the Iraq war is, LOOK AT THE FRENCH MILITARY. They couldn't invade the Vatican, let alone Iraq.

So france sucks because its a democracy?

:confused:

None of the above x2 thank you very much indeed.

If I have to choose, I'll go with Japan.

That's what I did. *nod*

Several things wrong with your post....
First, you ASSUME the Iraq war is wrong. So, things would be all better if Saddam was still throwing people into woodchippers eh?You know what sucks? Rummy has made such a mess of Iraq because of his incompetence and stupidity and arrogance that the answer to your question has become "yes."

my question is why do these certain americans (i will not generalise as most people on NS are from the US and seem quite sensible) think that there is no other military force in the world since the USSR collapsed?...

no wonder they are loosing wars to people living in caves:p

(to quote some guy i've seen on the BBC some months ago: "This whole war on terror is nothing but an advertising campaign. Now can someone explain to me how the most advanced countries in the world can loose an advertising campaign against people living in caves?"):)

You're either being sarcastic, or you're extremely ignorant.


They have little to no will, the only reason they refused the Iraq war is, LOOK AT THE FRENCH MILITARY. They couldn't invade the Vatican, let alone Iraq.

Ah, that answers my question. You're extremely ignorant.


Ariddia, I remind you again, we're not all like him. :(

I know, don't worry.

You know what sucks? Rummy has made such a mess of Iraq because of his incompetence and stupidity and arrogance that the answer to your question has become "yes."
rummy,did that alone ? with a big "R"?
thought guy...

rummy,did that alone ? with a big "R"?
thought guy...

Rumsfeld was the cheif architect of the Iraq war. He micromanaged it. It was his decision to dismiss the Iraqi police, the Iraqi army, and the adinistrative structure of the Iraqi government. These were the first of a series of drastic mistakes. It means that Iraq was left with no functioning civil infrastructure and that the US would have to rebuild the whole thing. It was his decision to allow the looting of bahgdad for several days after the initial invasion and to guard nothing but oil infrastructure. They did not defend hospitals, schools, electricity stations, TV stations... just oi linfrastructure. I could go on...

Not that Bush is off the hook. He's the chief moron in charge and should have fired Rummy years ago when his incompetence became apparent.

France was most vocal against the most enormous bludner in international affairs in a very long time, the iraq war.

Therefore, because France was right all along, and France was doing the right thing, France is the best.

Maybe India or Japan.

Rumsfeld was the cheif architect of the Iraq war. He micromanaged it. It was his decision to dismiss the Iraqi police, the Iraqi army, and the adinistrative structure of the Iraqi government. These were the first of a series of drastic mistakes. It means that Iraq was left with no functioning civil infrastructure and that the US would have to rebuild the whole thing. It was his decision to allow the looting of bahgdad for several days after the initial invasion and to guard nothing but oil infrastructure. They did not defend hospitals, schools, electricity stations, TV stations... just oi linfrastructure. I could go on...

Not that Bush is off the hook. He's the chief moron in charge and should have fired Rummy years ago when his incompetence became apparent.
HBah!
i learn something tonight.
them, micromanaging irak

France, FTW!

no other opion or Joke option. Wow. I see someone failed pollmaking last year.

psh, none, the pirates under capt. Jack Sparrow are.:gundge:

France was most vocal against the most enormous bludner in international affairs in a very long time, the iraq war.

Therefore, because France was right all along, and France was doing the right thing, France is the best.

They certainly deserve a salute for both their courage and their foresight - two things our own government (and people) demonstrably lack.

Yea, they were a real pushover when the US wanted them to join their ill-advised and shambolic invasion of Iraq, and instead did the right thing, whatever the reasons were.

Yea, what a whiny pushover.

It may surprise you somewhat to learn that your view of France, shared by much of the US, is not a view shared by most of the rest of the world. Likewise your view of the US.

Alright, I can see where we won't agree, but France? Three words concerning poor leadership here: "Oil for food"

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040321-101405-2593r.htm

Contributions to WFP in 2006 as of 09 October 2006 (US$)
1 USA 932,164,017 (that's like close to half of the total from the rest of the world)
2 European Commission 225,163,370
3 UN 114,198,483
4 Canada 110,999,818
5 UK 91,582,627
6 Netherlands 71,551,360
7 Sweden 57,873,046
8 World Bank 54,809,800
9 Germany 49,159,987
10 Australia 48,507,044
11 Norway 43,601,900
12 Japan 40,962,614
13 Denmark 40,410,429
14 Saudi Arabia 30,142,800
15 Sudan (Government Of South Sudan) 30,000,000
16 Private Donors 24,058,045
17 Ireland 23,933,860
18 France 21,303,359
19 Kenya 21,174,300
20 Switzerland 20,465,043
21 Spain 16,429,757
22 Finland 13,867,956
23 Russian Federation 11,007,821
24 Belgium 10,302,939
25 Pakistan 9,351,495
26 Italy 7,333,106
27 Malawi 7,077,360
28 Indonesia 7,002,047
29 Sudan (Government Of National Unity) 6,220,000
30 New Zealand 5,030,081
31 Luxembourg 4,758,846
32 Libya 4,514,792
33 India 4,266,667
34 African Dev Bank 4,068,018
35 Angola 3,500,000
36 Bangladesh 2,714,236
37 Greece 2,192,885
38 OPEC Fund 2,000,000
39 Austria 1,838,929
40 China 1,800,314
41 Turkey 1,200,000
42 Mauritania 1,197,376
43 South Africa 1,112,145
44 Azerbaijan 1,084,900
45 Venezuela 800,000
46 Iceland 514,281
47 Portugal 488,052
48 Egypt 486,958
49 Cyprus 400,000
50 Czech Republic 308,194
51 Ecuador 306,423
52 Qatar 293,409
53 Republic Of Congo 248,897
54 Nigeria 200,737
55 Republic Of Korea 200,000
56 Poland 200,000
57 Inter-American Development Bank 199,417
58 Kuwait 143,058
59 Vietnam 129,324
60 Guatemala 109,661
61 Thailand 103,912
62 Nepal 100,055
63 Hungary 65,000
64 Liechtenstein 64,577
65 Andorra 62,438
66 Assoc of S-E Asian Nations 53,728
67 Singapore 50,000
68 Slovakia 48,805
69 Peru 47,000
70 San Marino 38,461
71 Morocco 38,234
72 Jordan 37,823
73 Lithuania 37,226
74 Monaco 36,276
75 Faroe Islands 27,398
76 Colombia 27,000
77 Sri Lanka 11,805
78 Bulgaria 10,000
79 Ghana 10,000
80 Holy See 10,000
81 Algeria 2,511
82 Madagascar 1,113
83 Panama 1,000
84 Bhutan 983
GRAND TOTAL 2,187,847,328

World Food Program Donors

http://www.wfp.org/appeals/Wfp_donors/index.asp?section=3&sub_section=4

Oh boy, just what we need. More leaders.

France. They got their game together

Alright, I can see where we won't agree, but France? Three words concerning poor leadership here: "Oil for food"

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040321-101405-2593r.htm

As I said, they did the right thing, whatever the reasons were.

Why is Venezuela not an option?

Sure why not? After all, it has to be a close tie between Venezeula, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea right?

I'd say Sweden... but that was last week, or the one before it. They are going ass-backwards up the captl1z tree now. Norway? Finland?

Iran. They're willing to stand up against the big kids on the block, no matter how much they might get beat up. They're willing to make sure that imperialists don't take over again. They're willing to make sure the world doesn't come under one totalitarian state. Iran man, gotta love em.

Why? This is a serious question... I would like to know if a defense of this position can be made.

Leadership is relative. Someone can "lead" and do it poorly.

Being the biggest elephant on the block doesn't per se equal good leadership.

I would think Sweden or Norway really have their shit together.

I voted Germany because they're trying to be a bridge between EU and USA, and also they're widely acknowledged as a responsible country (5+1 group about Iran nuclear programme).
But I think Italy performed better in the recent Israel-Lebanon war, and also because Italy is leading the countries that support Serbia joining the EU, even though Serbia is hindering the capture of the alleged war-criminal Mladic.

None of those.

I would think Sweden or Norway really have their shit together.

I agree.

I would have voted for Canada if it was on the poll.

Luxembourg.

the leader has longest record of being in power in europe. bertie is third, if they win next year, he'll be second.

Australia, bitches!

Yeah, that's right. Especially in foreign policy. When it comes to the military, we jump to do what the US tells us to do. When it comes to refugees, we do what Indonesia tells us!

How's THAT for leadership.

Poll coming soon....

Which country do you feel is doing the most good or showing the best benefits to the world in today's times?

Which country do you feel is showing the "Best Leadership Role" in leading the world?

Any neutral country would be accepted. those and canada

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2005/44494.htm

the United States has been and remains the world leader in providing assistance to the developing world.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1189/is_1_276/ai_112168502

the United States leads the world in pharmaceutical and scientific research and development, playing a central role in medical breakthroughs that transform the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_United_States

The United States leads the world in higher education, with many foreign elites choosing to educate their children there. The United States boasts more than 1,500 universities, colleges, and other institutions of higher learning.


Facts are stubborn things in determining which nations are really leading.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2005/44494.htm
i thought of something,..
it is not old enought,i'll wait tomorow,just
to get the corporations out of it. ;)

Poll coming soon....

Which country do you feel is doing the most good or showing the best benefits to the world in today's times?

Which country do you feel is showing the "Best Leadership Role" in leading the world?

What? No Cuba?

Who were the morons who voted for France?

I havent seen France take the lead on anything in a very long time....

United States on the other hand, despite it's mistakes, is still the worlds only remaining superpower which directly implys that it has enormous influence in the world for better or for worst. Therefore the only leader is clearly the United States.

Who were the morons who voted for France?

I havent seen France take the lead on anything in a very long time....

United States on the other hand, despite it's mistakes, is still the worlds only remaining superpower which directly implys that it has enormous influence in the world for better or for worst. Therefore the only leader is clearly the United States.

Read the OP again (aw hell I will just quote it)

Which country do you feel is doing the most good or showing the best benefits to the world in today's times?

Which country do you feel is showing the "Best Leadership Role" in leading the world?

The first part does dose not require a loud voice just a voice …

The US may like to take a leadership role and speak with a loud voice, but I don’t think they are doing “the most good”.

Personally I don’t like any of the choices on the poll or at least most of them

Hmmmmmm.....

I'd say either the UK or France is doing best morally, but that Iran is being the Best Leader of Nations right now...


Multi-track Microproliferation: Lessons from Aum Shinrikyo and Al Qaida


Gavin Cameron

Abstract:

This article compares the proliferation activities of the substate groups Aum Shinrikyo and al Qaida, Osama bin Laden's organization. It argues that they are dissimilar in motivation and organizational structure, yet pursued a similar multi-track strategy in an attempt to acquire weapons of mass destruction. The article explores both groups' efforts to obtain these weapons and suggests that the similarities in the methods they used in their pursuit are largely a consequence of the financial resources of Aum and al Qaida. The article concludes that the examples of these groups provide important lessons for governmental efforts to counter future microproliferation. Moreover, since both Aum and al Qaida continue to pose a proliferation threat, continued vigilance towards them remains vital.


http://taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/(2hkipijvrh0zjs55ci1fj0rh)/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backto=issue,1,6;journal,42,45;linkingpublicationresults,1:102492,1


April 23, 2005
Leading Iranian mullah: "Fight the Jews and Vanquish Them"
"Ayatollah Nouri-Hamedani: 'Fight the Jews and Vanquish Them so as to Hasten the Coming of the Hidden Imam,'" from MEMRI, with thanks to Rebecca Bynum:

The official Iranian news agency Fars, which is close to the conservative circles in Iran, recently published a statement by Ayatollah Hossein Nouri-Hamedani, one of the Iranian regime's leading religious authorities, in which he advocates fighting the Jews in order to prepare the ground and to hasten the advent of the Hidden Imam, the Messiah according to Shiite belief.
It should be noted that the Fars news agency took the report off its web site several hours after its publication, and other Iranian media outlets close to the conservatives refrained from citing it...

Prior to the Advent of the Hidden Imam, Arrogance and Colonialism Rule the World

"Fars news agency: Ayatollah Nouri-Hamedani, discussing [Shi'ite] religious texts, said: 'One should fight the Jews and vanquish them so that the conditions for the advent of the Hidden Imam be met.' According to the Fars news agency's report, Ayatollah Nouri-Hamedani met with members of the Mahdaviyat Studies Institute. He praised the institute's work and demanded that the religious seminaries in Qom also do more to research religious texts and hadith concerning the Hidden Imam...

"Nouri-Hamedani said that the texts concerning the end of days are rife with allusions and hidden meanings. He asked the researchers to devote their efforts to elucidating these texts. He noted: 'In the texts it is told that the Hidden Imam will remove the yoke of humiliation from mankind's neck. Therefore it is clear that prior to the advent of the Hidden Imam, Arrogance [a common epithet for Western powers, especially the U.S.A.] and colonialism rule the world.'

The Jews Have Hoarded All the Wealth in One Place, and All the World are Their Slaves

"According to this religious authority, 'at present the Jews' policies threaten us. One should explain in the clearest terms the danger the Jews pose to the [Iranian] people and to the Muslims. Ever since Islam's appearance, the group that expressed fierce opposition to Islam - and still acts in this fashion - were the Jews. They were involved in the Khaybar, Uhud, and Ahzab wars.' He added: 'Already from the beginning the Jews wanted to hoard the world's goods in [their] greed and voracity. They always worked in important professions and now they have hoarded all of the wealth in one place. And all of the world, especially America and Europe, are their slaves.'"...

"The revelation of the culture of Jihad and martyrdom in the country [Iran] struck world Arrogance [i.e., the U.S. and the Western powers] with dread. The existence of such a spirit among our youth led to world Arrogance's not daring to infringe on our borders... History shows that every people that lost the culture of Jihad and martyrdom were brought down."


Leadership...right...if you like WW III :D :D :D

REF only....funny too
http://www.iranian.com/Imani/2006/September/Pope/index.html


LEADERSHIP ??? To what worldwide Jihad ??

Nukes for all ???

And it is not just Israel that is endangered: a nuclear Iran would immediately trigger a rapid Middle Eastern arms race. Saudi Arabia would be quickest off the blocks, with Egypt and Turkey not far behind. Some of the smaller Gulf states would demand protection too. It's true that these nations have lived with a nuclear Israel without racing to catch up, but most observers believe that an Iranian bomb would be intolerable in the eyes of its Arab rivals. Determined to prevent Iran from emerging as the Muslim superpower in the region, they would stop at nothing to match it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1761372,00.html


LEADERSHIP ????

Read the OP again (aw hell I will just quote it)



The first part does dose not require a loud voice just a voice …

The US may like to take a leadership role and speak with a loud voice, but I don’t think they are doing “the most good”.

Personally I don’t like any of the choices on the poll or at least most of them

A leader does something, one cannot lead by doing nothing like France.

America, does a whole lot more good than what France does. When a natural disaster occurs any wheres in this world, who is typically the first outsiders to rush to help. The US Navy or other US military followed very shortly after is billions of dollars donated between our People and Government. Who is the most active on assisting Africa with Aids and sending in money and humanitarian aid, USA of course. Who has doctors around the globe helping the ones who need it the most? How many Americans are going overseas to adopt children to give them a better life? We are sending so much humanitarian aid around the globe, Red cross is around the globe. Our military is around the globe on stand by to help whosoever needs it. We as America do so much good for this world and because of a few things that we do that the world dislikes they discredit it all. I am tired of the world condemning the bad stuff America does and the so ungratefulness the world appears to be towards the USA.

That's fine continue to condemn us. We are still going to do what we do best and that is to show off our generosity and humanitarian aid to help in the good of this world. You can keep bickering about how much bad we do. No worries, though, we'll continue to send you millions and billions of dollars of either monetaries or aid.

Overall, the USA does far more good than bad. Condemn us for the bad but please act somewhat grateful for the good that we do.

We as America do so much for this world, more than the world combined and because of a few things that we do that the world dislikes discredits it all.
See, with such a statement, you lack all credibilty.

Don't underestimate the rest of the world (http://intlcenter.tamu.edu/International%20Response/Response_US_Hurricane_Disasters.htm).

See, with such a statement, you lack all credibilty.

Don't underestimate the rest of the world (http://intlcenter.tamu.edu/International%20Response/Response_US_Hurricane_Disasters.htm).

I never said that the intn'l community doesn't have any humanitarian aid happenings. That is what you chose to see in my thread. I do understand the humanitarian aid does happen throughout the world.

http://www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/tsunami/ngolist.html

http://www.oecd.org/document/40/0,2340,en_2649_33721_36418344_1_1_1_1,00.html Skim down to the 3rd or 4th paragraph, you'll see who the largest donor was in 2005.