O'reilly interviews Bush Tonight
Daemonocracy
16-10-2006, 21:53
Now I know most people here hate Bill O'reilly and are plotting President Bush's destruction, but if you double up on the Ace Inhibitors and Beta Blockers, you just may be able to make it through this interview.
After all the crap that has been going on in Washington and with the Republicans in particular, it will be interesting to hear what takes place in this interview. Whether you like O'reilly or not, he does throw in a few hardball questions in all of his interviews. This is also the first one on one interview the President has given that I've known of in quite some time.
Tonight at 8:00 pm Eastern Standard Time on Fox News.
The Nazz
16-10-2006, 21:54
Isn't pornography forbidden on basic cable?
Daemonocracy
16-10-2006, 21:56
Isn't pornography forbidden on basic cable?
thanks for the mental image. I really needed that. :mad:
The Nazz
16-10-2006, 21:59
thanks for the mental image. I really needed that. :mad:
At least I didn't get graphic. I went for the subtle joke instead.
DrunkenDove
16-10-2006, 22:25
Isn't pornography forbidden on basic cable?
Best. Reply. Ever.
Congo--Kinshasa
16-10-2006, 22:33
http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/O_REILLY.gif
Drunk commies deleted
16-10-2006, 22:38
http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/O_REILLY.gif
I El Oh El-ed.
CthulhuFhtagn
16-10-2006, 22:47
Isn't pornography forbidden on basic cable?
I was going to say something along those lines. Only much more graphic.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-10-2006, 22:49
I was going to say something along those lines. Only much more graphic.
Like,
"Finally! The Asshole and the Exploratory Digit are reunited!"
;)
Neo Undelia
16-10-2006, 22:52
Isn't pornography forbidden on basic cable?
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Dinaverg
16-10-2006, 22:53
Like,
"Finally! The Asshole and the Exploratory Digit are reunited!"
;)
...wait, which is which?
The Nazz
16-10-2006, 22:53
Took the words right out of my mouth.
The joke kind of wrote itself.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-10-2006, 22:56
...wait, which is which?
Yes. :)
The Nazz
16-10-2006, 22:57
Like,
"Finally! The Asshole and the Exploratory Digit are reunited!"
;)
I was thinking more of situations involving fellatio and analingus, personally.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-10-2006, 22:58
I was thinking more of situations involving fellatio and analingus, personally.
But that would actually accomplish something worthwhile. :)
Dinaverg
16-10-2006, 22:59
Yes. :)
Ah...
New Granada
16-10-2006, 23:38
I wonder if oreilly will use his teeth to get bush's pants open.
I wonder if oreilly will use his teeth to get bush's pants open.
You made me throw up things I haven't even eaten yet.
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 00:40
You made me throw up things I haven't even eaten yet.
Sweet. :D
New Domici
17-10-2006, 00:42
Now I know most people here hate Bill O'reilly and are plotting President Bush's destruction, but if you double up on the Ace Inhibitors and Beta Blockers, you just may be able to make it through this interview.
After all the crap that has been going on in Washington and with the Republicans in particular, it will be interesting to hear what takes place in this interview. Whether you like O'reilly or not, he does throw in a few hardball questions in all of his interviews. This is also the first one on one interview the President has given that I've known of in quite some time.
Tonight at 8:00 pm Eastern Standard Time on Fox News.
Not when they're influential republicans. He's interviewed the president and members of his administration before. This is going to do for Bush metaphorically what he would be fined by the FCC if he did literally, and what Monica did for Bill.
Peechland
17-10-2006, 00:42
I hope he'll use small words.
Montacanos
17-10-2006, 00:49
Im pretty sure you mean the younger, but could you please specify which bush it is that you are speaking of?
CthulhuFhtagn
17-10-2006, 00:57
Im pretty sure you mean the younger, but could you please specify which bush it is that you are speaking of?
The one married to the lady that killed her friend.
Interesting Specimens
17-10-2006, 00:58
Yes. :)
Friggin' Vorlons.
*rushes to toilet bowl as the comments made so far sink in*
Let's do a live Gabbly chat while watching it!
*signs on*
I hope he'll use small words.
I think most people will agree that George Bush can ONLY use small words.
CthulhuFhtagn
17-10-2006, 01:10
I think most people will agree that George Bush can ONLY use small words.
Don't misunderestimate him.
Sdaeriji
17-10-2006, 01:39
Finally the question on everyone's mind will be answered! Bush: Boxers or Briefs?
Finally the question on everyone's mind will be answered! Bush: Boxers or Briefs?
His Answer: Egyptian Leather Thong
Sdaeriji
17-10-2006, 01:44
His Answer: Egyptian Leather Thong
See, Bush always struck me as a Commando kind of guy. You know, loose and free.
Teh_pantless_hero
17-10-2006, 01:45
Let the ego inflating contest begin!
Who shall win?
Will Bush be able to inflate O'Reilly's already expansive ego the fastest with his good-ol'-boy compliments? Or will O'Reilly inflate Bush's the fastest with his honed and practiced support anything Bush does verbal fellatio?
Everyone is about to hate me alot for stating how much I love Bush. I love Bush. What a hero. And talk about a man who know's what's what.
Everyone is about to hate me alot for stating how much I love Bush. I love Bush. What a hero. And talk about a man who know's what's what.
May I ask why?
Well, for the most part he has been able to handle the economy fairly well (my interest and main concern), I love his accent (gotta love that southern drawl), and his constant grammatical errors get me going. Still, he does a pretty good job as the most important man in the world. Keep in mind I'm in fact Canadian.
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 01:58
May I ask why?
Because he's Bushanomics's cousin?
Well, for the most part he has been able to handle the economy fairly well (my interest and main concern),
up until now yes, but wait 'till the old Iraq debt catches up with us...
I love his accent (gotta love that southern drawl), and his constant grammatical errors get me going.
A president's accent and grammatical errors are irrelevent to me...
Still, he does a pretty good job as the most important man in the world.
Bush is criticised a wee bit much, methinks. He isn't stupid, despite his texas accent or public speaking failures.
Keep in mind I'm in fact Canadian.
Keep yar garbage outta mah state yoo canuck!:mp5:
:D
Demented Hamsters
17-10-2006, 02:11
I was thinking more of situations involving fellatio and analingus, personally.
Maybe we'll see Santorum live on Fox TV?
(and I'm not talking about the senator here)
Sheerly for interests sake (not that I expect to get many intelligent replies) can anyone tell me why they hate Bush so much?
Sheerly for interests sake (not that I expect to get many intelligent replies) can anyone tell me why they hate Bush so much?
He's become the focal point for hatred of neocons, the GOP, and understandably hated conservative pundits.
People take their hatred for a vague ideology and focus it on one man, and that happens to be George W. Bush.
Dragontide
17-10-2006, 02:21
thanks for the mental image. I really needed that. :mad:
LoL! Sorry but it was the first image that poped into my head as well.
Daemonocracy
17-10-2006, 02:25
This thread has done what was intended. You guys are even more to the left than I originally thought. :eek:
You guys are full of Hate. This is why the Democrats have such trouble winning elections, even against a party that committed suicide long ago.
Well your Hero, Keith Olbermann, attacked O'reilly on his show, again, and went on a little rant about it, again.
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2006, 02:27
I hope he'll use small words.
If he sticks to "My Pet Goat", then he should be okay? :p
Sane Outcasts
17-10-2006, 02:32
This thread has done what was intended. You guys are even more to the left than I originally thought. :eek:
You guys are full of Hate. This is why the Democrats have such trouble winning elections, even against a party that committed suicide long ago.
Well your Hero, Keith Olbermann, attacked O'reilly on his show, again, and went on a little rant about it, again.
What, sexual innuendo translates to hate now?
Be careful about what you think you see here. Most people are of the opinion that O'Reilly is an extremely conservative commentator, a big fan of Bush, and will likely try to act tough but really play the suck-up when he interviews Bush. If they choose to express their opinions using colorful innuendo, why must you see it as Hate (with a capital H, no less)?
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2006, 02:33
Finally the question on everyone's mind will be answered! Bush: Boxers or Briefs?
Al fresco? :eek:
CanuckHeaven
17-10-2006, 02:37
Because he's Bushanomics's cousin?
Where is Bushanomics?? He is overdue for an appearance?
Dobbsworld
17-10-2006, 02:39
I'm not full of hate - I'm full of dinner. Increasingly less so, as the evening wears on.
Good thing I have cake.
Demented Hamsters
17-10-2006, 02:41
I'm not full of hate - I'm full of dinner. Increasingly less so, as the evening wears on.
Good thing I have cake.
You have cake, and you're not sharing?!
You selfish bastard!!
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 03:01
I'm not full of hate - I'm full of dinner. Increasingly less so, as the evening wears on.
Good thing I have cake.
You have cake, and you're not sharing?!
You selfish bastard!!
This is where the hating begins. ;)
Sheerly for interests sake (not that I expect to get many intelligent replies) can anyone tell me why they hate Bush so much?
I dislike his economics. The tax cuts were aimed at the rich and the have not trickled down.
I dislike NCLB, the idea is solid, but the methods and the under-funding make it a disaster.
I dislike the war in Iraq. I can understand he got bad intelligence. I can respect the "We started it, so we have to finish it", I cannot respect or understand the rotating reasons for the war, especially as now we're doing this for freedom, yet make friends and nice nice with countries that we know are torturing people and are run by full blown tyrants and dictators. I also dislike the shear arrogence of not planning on how to win the damn thing, or what to do after the war.
I dislike his creeping powers, slowly gathing more to the Excutive branch. He can now imprision anyone he likes. For any reason.
I dislike the torture and the sending of people abroad to be tortured.
I dislike the slow responce to Katrina.
I dislike his partisan approch (And yes, the Democrats share equal blaime in this). He came proclaming he was a uniter not a divider, but the US is more polorized than ever before and he gives strong indications that he just don't care about reaching out to the other half of the US (One of the reasons I am looking forward to a Democrat controled Congress is because he will have to finally work and not just order).
I don't hate him, but I do agree with the statement that President Bush isn't a truly bad president per se, he is however a lower-average president when we really need a great president.
That's why I don't like him.
Now I know most people here hate Bill O'reilly and are plotting President Bush's destruction, but if you double up on the Ace Inhibitors and Beta Blockers, you just may be able to make it through this interview.Actually, I'd be more afraid that I'd pull something shaking my head so often. :D
I dislike his economics. The tax cuts were aimed at the rich and the have not trickled down.
I dislike NCLB, the idea is solid, but the methods and the under-funding make it a disaster.
I dislike the war in Iraq. I can understand he got bad intelligence. I can respect the "We started it, so we have to finish it", I cannot respect or understand the rotating reasons for the war, especially as now we're doing this for freedom, yet make friends and nice nice with countries that we know are torturing people and are run by full blown tyrants and dictators. I also dislike the shear arrogence of not planning on how to win the damn thing, or what to do after the war.
I dislike his creeping powers, slowly gathing more to the Excutive branch. He can now imprision anyone he likes. For any reason.
I dislike the torture and the sending of people abroad to be tortured.
I dislike the slow responce to Katrina.
I dislike his partisan approch (And yes, the Democrats share equal blaime in this). He came proclaming he was a uniter not a divider, but the US is more polorized than ever before and he gives strong indications that he just don't care about reaching out to the other half of the US (One of the reasons I am looking forward to a Democrat controled Congress is because he will have to finally work and not just order).
I don't hate him, but I do agree with the statement that President Bush isn't a truly bad president per se, he is however a lower-average president when we really need a great president.
That's why I don't like him.Can I add Clear Skies to that list?
Can I add Clear Skies to that list?
I can't believe I forgot that, please do so.
I dislike your inability to spell.
There is little wrong with his economic policy, keep your nose out of what you don't understand.
I hate people like me on forums :)
I think most people will agree that George Bush can ONLY use small words.
Don't misunderestimate him. He's the decider, and the terrorists are always trying to come up with new ways to harm the American people, and so is he...
I dislike your inability to spell.
There is little wrong with his economic policy, keep your nose out of what you don't understand.
I hate people like me on forums :)
Mass-murderer, trillion-dollar debt... Yeah, Bush ain't bad, just misunderestimatood. :p
I dislike your inability to spell.
Two point to this: 1, I actually do have a learning disability which makes it difficult for me to spell words. I compensate by running things through spell check and proof reading when it's important that things are spelled correctly (such as papers, tests or lessons). 2, I do not consider replying to you important.
There is little wrong with his economic policy, keep your nose out of what you don't understand.
Wow... such a come back. You sure put me in my place, yes sir. I now know exactly where I went wrong in doubting President Bush's economic policy thanks to your wonderfully written, eloquent, and well reasoned reply. And you provided so much irrefutable evidence as well. :rolleyes:
I hate people like me on forums :)
Given that within your five posts you have managed to insult many people on this forum, I believe other people will join you.
...
So if Bush is going on the O'Reilly show...you think we can get him on The Daily Show? :D
...
So if Bush is going on the O'Reilly show...you think we can get him on The Daily Show? :D
I'd give a kidney for that!
Killinginthename
17-10-2006, 05:06
Well, for the most part he has been able to handle the economy fairly well (my interest and main concern), I love his accent (gotta love that southern drawl), and his constant grammatical errors get me going. Still, he does a pretty good job as the most important man in the world. Keep in mind I'm in fact Canadian.
By Brett Arends
Boston Herald Business Columnist
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
The neocon talk-show hosts were so angry last week they could barely speak.
The “mainstream media” and “the drive-by media” and “the liberal media,” they said, were deliberately ignoring the president’s great record on the stock market, on gasoline prices and on jobs.
Why don’t the media talk about the Dow, they demanded.
OK. Let’s.
The Dow Jones Industrials Average closed last week at 11,867. That’s a gain of 1,279 points since George Bush took office on Jan. 20, 2001.
That’s an annualized gain of 2 percent.
Under Bill Clinton, it was 15.9 percent.
Bush’s dad: 9.8 percent.
Ronald Reagan: 11.3 percent.
These figures are public record.
The index also did better under Presidents Ford, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Calvin Coolidge. Much better.
Since World War I, the only presidents with a worse Dow Jones Industrials record than the incumbent were Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter.
Hoover, Nixon, Carter, Bush? Hmmmm.
I’m saying nothing.
Let’s talk about gasoline prices.
Yes, they’re down 73 cents a gallon from the peak in August. Average today: $2.26. But in January 2001, they were $1.46. So they’re still up 55 percent.
Jobs?
Since January 2001, the jobless rate has risen from 4.2 percent to 4.6 percent.
Over that period, non-farm payrolls have added an average of 46,200 jobs a month. That’s good, right?
Clinton: 237,000 a month.
Reagan: 168,000.
Carter: 215,000. Carter!
Bush’s dad presided over a recession so bad it cost him his job. His record must be worse, right?
His average: 54,000 a month. That’s 17 percent higher than junior’s.
Hey, don’t blame me. They asked.
Link (http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=161760&format=text)
Sheerly for interests sake (not that I expect to get many intelligent replies) can anyone tell me why they hate Bush so much?
I despise Bush for practical reasons; I do not hate him for irrational reasons.
I despise Bush because of
1) His hypocrisy
He claims to be a "Christian" while waging an illegal, immoral and unnecessary war against a country that never attacked the U.S.
He claims to be compassionate while gutting social services so he can cut taxes for the ultra-rich.
He claims to support the troops while sending them off to war poorly equipped and short handed...trying to fight a war "on the cheap" so the above tax cuts can be provided to the people that made his "election" possible...and when these brave men and women come home from Bush's war they find that their VA benefits are being cut and co-pays are going up...they are coming home and ending up homeless...they are coming home missing arms and legs and with deep scars on their souls to an Administration that does not care one bit about their sacrifices, wounds or well being...but will wrap themselves in the flag and praise the troops while out on the campaign trail!
2) His ignorance
Face it he is not the brightest bulb on the tree and he actually revels in his ignorance.
He discredits scientists that are far more intelligent than he is on such subjects as Global Warming and Evolution to pander to his rich corporate masters and to the "Religious Right" that bring in the votes of the sheep that want so desperately to believe that the foolish myths that they were taught as children are true.
He veto’s one bill in his entire Presidency and it is a bill that would allow for Federal funding of stem cell research that has the potential to help millions of sick people.
He veto’s this bill because he believes in a "culture of life" but (see hypocrisy above!) has no problem putting people to death, actually mocking them when they beg to be spared.
And the stupidest thing is the embryos that the scientists want to use would be donated by couples that created them for in-vitro fertilization...they are going to be destroyed anyway.
3) His pandering to above groups...the filthy rich, the poor and foolish and his corporate masters.
4) His naked cowardice and tough guy bravado that prove him to be nothing but a bully
G.W. Bush had a chance to fight for his country and he instead chose to hide out in the Texas National Guard...and he could not even cut it there!
While men like John Kerry and John Murtha were volunteering to go to Vietnam and fight, Bush (and Cheney and Rove etc.) were using their influential friends and family to get them out of the draft thus sparing them the horrors of war.
Now this in itself would not bother me terribly if it were not for the fact that Bush now talks tough with OTHER PEOPLES LIVES!
Bush said "Bring it on" and our soldiers paid the price.
But you don't see any Bush kids fighting in Iraq!
Bush invaded Iraq on trumped up intelligence because controlling the Middle East oil reserves is a key part of the PNAC agenda!
5) Bush has run up the largest Federal debt in history!
Bush has allowed the debt to be run up to over 8 TRILLION dollars ($8,000,000,000,000)
My kids are going to be the ones that will have to pay for Bush’s wars, tax cuts for the rich and reckless spending.
6) Finally there is Bush’s arrogant abuse of his Presidential powers!
Bush has illegally wiretapped American’s when all he had to do to legally use wiretaps is go to the FISA court and get a warrant from a court that has only refused to do so a handful of times in its existence.
Bush has used “signing statements” that he feels allow him, not the courts, to interpret the law.
He feels that the President is above the law!
His Administration has imprisoned at least one U.S. CITIZEN ( Jose Padilla ) and numerous foriegn nationals without the benefit of a trial.
They have condoned the use of torture.
They have ignored the Geneva Convention.
They have set back Constitution rights that have been in place since the founding of this great nation.
And now with the help of a spineless Congress has changed the laws of this great nation to retroactively allow for torture of people never convicted of any crime and suspended habeas corpus.
There are checks and balances in place for a good reason and Bush and his cronies have ignored them time and again.
Sorry to make all you folks that already read this rant in the "Do you hate your country?" thread slog through it again but he asked.
Dobbsworld
17-10-2006, 05:21
Mmm, the cake was good.
By Brett Arends
Boston Herald Business Columnist
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
The neocon talk-show hosts were so angry last week they could barely speak.
The “mainstream media” and “the drive-by media” and “the liberal media,” they said, were deliberately ignoring the president’s great record on the stock market, on gasoline prices and on jobs.
Why don’t the media talk about the Dow, they demanded.
OK. Let’s.
The Dow Jones Industrials Average closed last week at 11,867. That’s a gain of 1,279 points since George Bush took office on Jan. 20, 2001.
That’s an annualized gain of 2 percent.
Under Bill Clinton, it was 15.9 percent.
Bush’s dad: 9.8 percent.
Ronald Reagan: 11.3 percent.
These figures are public record.
The index also did better under Presidents Ford, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Calvin Coolidge. Much better.
Since World War I, the only presidents with a worse Dow Jones Industrials record than the incumbent were Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter.
Hoover, Nixon, Carter, Bush? Hmmmm.
I’m saying nothing.
Let’s talk about gasoline prices.
Yes, they’re down 73 cents a gallon from the peak in August. Average today: $2.26. But in January 2001, they were $1.46. So they’re still up 55 percent.
Jobs?
Since January 2001, the jobless rate has risen from 4.2 percent to 4.6 percent.
Over that period, non-farm payrolls have added an average of 46,200 jobs a month. That’s good, right?
Clinton: 237,000 a month.
Reagan: 168,000.
Carter: 215,000. Carter!
Bush’s dad presided over a recession so bad it cost him his job. His record must be worse, right?
His average: 54,000 a month. That’s 17 percent higher than junior’s.
Hey, don’t blame me. They asked.
Link (http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=161760&format=text)
I despise Bush for practical reasons; I do not hate him for irrational reasons.
I despise Bush because of
1) His hypocrisy
He claims to be a "Christian" while waging an illegal, immoral and unnecessary war against a country that never attacked the U.S.
He claims to be compassionate while gutting social services so he can cut taxes for the ultra-rich.
He claims to support the troops while sending them off to war poorly equipped and short handed...trying to fight a war "on the cheap" so the above tax cuts can be provided to the people that made his "election" possible...and when these brave men and women come home from Bush's war they find that their VA benefits are being cut and co-pays are going up...they are coming home and ending up homeless...they are coming home missing arms and legs and with deep scars on their souls to an Administration that does not care one bit about their sacrifices, wounds or well being...but will wrap themselves in the flag and praise the troops while out on the campaign trail!
2) His ignorance
Face it he is not the brightest bulb on the tree and he actually revels in his ignorance.
He discredits scientists that are far more intelligent than he is on such subjects as Global Warming and Evolution to pander to his rich corporate masters and to the "Religious Right" that bring in the votes of the sheep that want so desperately to believe that the foolish myths that they were taught as children are true.
He veto’s one bill in his entire Presidency and it is a bill that would allow for Federal funding of stem cell research that has the potential to help millions of sick people.
He veto’s this bill because he believes in a "culture of life" but (see hypocrisy above!) has no problem putting people to death, actually mocking them when they beg to be spared.
And the stupidest thing is the embryos that the scientists want to use would be donated by couples that created them for in-vitro fertilization...they are going to be destroyed anyway.
3) His pandering to above groups...the filthy rich, the poor and foolish and his corporate masters.
4) His naked cowardice and tough guy bravado that prove him to be nothing but a bully
G.W. Bush had a chance to fight for his country and he instead chose to hide out in the Texas National Guard...and he could not even cut it there!
While men like John Kerry and John Murtha were volunteering to go to Vietnam and fight, Bush (and Cheney and Rove etc.) were using their influential friends and family to get them out of the draft thus sparing them the horrors of war.
Now this in itself would not bother me terribly if it were not for the fact that Bush now talks tough with OTHER PEOPLES LIVES!
Bush said "Bring it on" and our soldiers paid the price.
But you don't see any Bush kids fighting in Iraq!
Bush invaded Iraq on trumped up intelligence because controlling the Middle East oil reserves is a key part of the PNAC agenda!
5) Bush has run up the largest Federal debt in history!
Bush has allowed the debt to be run up to over 8 TRILLION dollars ($8,000,000,000,000)
My kids are going to be the ones that will have to pay for Bush’s wars, tax cuts for the rich and reckless spending.
6) Finally there is Bush’s arrogant abuse of his Presidential powers!
Bush has illegally wiretapped American’s when all he had to do to legally use wiretaps is go to the FISA court and get a warrant from a court that has only refused to do so a handful of times in its existence.
Bush has used “signing statements” that he feels allow him, not the courts, to interpret the law.
He feels that the President is above the law!
His Administration has imprisoned at least one U.S. CITIZEN ( Jose Padilla ) and numerous foriegn nationals without the benefit of a trial.
They have condoned the use of torture.
They have ignored the Geneva Convention.
They have set back Constitution rights that have been in place since the founding of this great nation.
And now with the help of a spineless Congress has changed the laws of this great nation to retroactively allow for torture of people never convicted of any crime and suspended habeas corpus.
There are checks and balances in place for a good reason and Bush and his cronies have ignored them time and again.
Sorry to make all you folks that already read this rant in the "Do you hate your country?" thread slog through it again but he asked.
Thanks for those interesting facts when it comes to Bush's performance on the economy. Quite enlightening, really.
Dobbs: Grr...
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 06:02
Thanks for those interesting facts when it comes to Bush's performance on the economy. Quite enlightening, really.
Seconded. Of course, it'll only take minutes for a Bush apologist to screech "9/11," as though no other president in recent history had to deal with such an issue.
Seconded. Of course, it'll only take minutes for a Bush apologist to screech "9/11," as though no other president in recent history had to deal with such an issue.
To which one can easily point out that the American economy did WELL in WWII. Freaking. World. Freaking. War. Freaking. Two. Freaking. With. Freaking. Hitler. Freaking. And. Freaking. Fifty. Freaking. Millions. Freaking. Soldiers. Freaking. Killed. Freaking. Many. Freaking. Of. Freaking. Which. Freaking. Americans.
Sorry, but neocon stupidity makes me freak out.
Seconded. Of course, it'll only take minutes for a Bush apologist to screech "9/11," as though no other president in recent history had to deal with such an issue.
Aye. 9/11 is merely the most recent, and while probably the most tragic in terms of the its effect on the country, that doesn't make it a more important event than all the other issues.
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 06:25
To which one can easily point out that the American economy did WELL in WWII. Freaking. World. Freaking. War. Freaking. Two. Freaking. With. Freaking. Hitler. Freaking. And. Freaking. Fifty. Freaking. Millions. Freaking. Soldiers. Freaking. Killed. Freaking. Many. Freaking. Of. Freaking. Which. Freaking. Americans.
Sorry, but neocon stupidity makes me freak out.Haven't you heard? We're in World War III right now, facing down the uber-powerful threat of guys in caves combined with oil-producing Islamofascists WHOWANTOTKILLYOUNOOOOOOOEEEEEESSSSAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHH11!!!!111
Why, if the economy fell apart for the working class right now, Bush could hardly be blamed for it, what with all the other shit he has to worry about. [/sarcasm]
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 06:29
Aye. 9/11 is merely the most recent, and while probably the most tragic in terms of the its effect on the country, that doesn't make it a more important event than all the other issues.
I'd rank WWII, Korea and Vietnam all well ahead of the 9/11 attacks. Hell, catch me on the right day, and I might argue that the assassinations of MLK Jr., Bobby Kennedy and Malcolm X were, combined, a more tragic event on the whole than the 9/11 attacks.
The real tragedy of the 9/11 attacks has been the way the Bush administration has convinced weak minded people inside and outside the government to voluntarily sacrifice their rights because theyre so terrified of a boogeyman that's not much of a threat.
Haven't you heard? We're in World War III right now, facing down the uber-powerful threat of guys in caves combined with oil-producing Islamofascists WHOWANTOTKILLYOUNOOOOOOOEEEEEESSSSAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHH11!!!!111
Why, if the economy fell apart for the working class right now, Bush could hardly be blamed for it, what with all the other shit he has to worry about. [/sarcasm]
...Dude...Nazz...you're freaking me out here. Methinks you're starting to snap.
I'd rank WWII, Korea and Vietnam all well ahead of the 9/11 attacks. Hell, catch me on the right day, and I might argue that the assassinations of MLK Jr., Bobby Kennedy and Malcolm X were, combined, a more tragic event on the whole than the 9/11 attacks.
The real tragedy of the 9/11 attacks has been the way the Bush administration has convinced weak minded people inside and outside the government to voluntarily sacrifice their rights because theyre so terrified of a boogeyman that's not much of a threat.
Aye, there is that. Still, this one is a wee bit more personal, because in each of those instances you specify, it was a famous person, or involved those who joined the Army to fight. With 9/11, it was just ordinary people doing ordinary jobs when BAM, the bastards smashed planes into them. Furthermore, we saw destruction of buildings through an attack on our country we have not seen since the Civil War. That tends to hit home a lot more than even seeing beloved figures like MLK Jr being shot.
But then, what do I know? I'm only 19. I never saw any of that personally. The only thing I saw was 9/11. So perhaps I simply lack the proper perspective.
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 06:41
Aye, there is that. Still, this one is a wee bit more personal, because in each of those instances you specify, it was a famous person, or involved those who joined the Army to fight. With 9/11, it was just ordinary people doing ordinary jobs when BAM, the bastards smashed planes into them. Furthermore, we saw destruction of buildings through an attack on our country we have not seen since the Civil War. That tends to hit home a lot more than even seeing beloved figures like MLK Jr being shot.
But then, what do I know? I'm only 19. I never saw any of that personally. The only thing I saw was 9/11. So perhaps I simply lack the proper perspective.
There's no question that for your generation--and possibly for mine as well--the 9/11 attacks were a defining moment. My parents are of the generation who can answer the question "where were you when JFK was shot" and they know instantly. My generation--I'm 37--didn't really have that, short of seeing Challenger explode in midair or maybe the Oklahoma City bombing. Most of the big stuff happened elsewhere--the fall of the Soviet Union, the tearing down of the Berlin Wall, etc. What am I left with? Live Aid?
So yeah, the 9/11 attacks will be this generation's life-altering moment. I just hope that we don't wind up with a totalitarian government as a result of that alteration.
Demented Hamsters
17-10-2006, 06:43
I'd give a kidney for that!
Hell, I'd give two kidneys!
Bush's kidneys that is.
And Karl Rove's heart, if they ever break through the seventh seal to retrieve it.
Hell, I'd give two kidneys!
Bush's kidneys that is.
And Karl Rove's heart, if they ever break through the seventh seal to retrieve it.
I'd give about tree fiddy.
Demented Hamsters
17-10-2006, 06:47
There's no question that for your generation--and possibly for mine as well--the 9/11 attacks were a defining moment. My parents are of the generation who can answer the question "where were you when JFK was shot" and they know instantly. My generation--I'm 37--didn't really have that, short of seeing Challenger explode in midair or maybe the Oklahoma City bombing. Most of the big stuff happened elsewhere--the fall of the Soviet Union, the tearing down of the Berlin Wall, etc. What am I left with? Live Aid?
So yeah, the 9/11 attacks will be this generation's life-altering moment. I just hope that we don't wind up with a totalitarian government as a result of that alteration.
You can remember where you were and what you were doing when Kurt Cobain topped himself?
That was a generation-defining moment, surely.
Also, the launch of MTV.
and 'classic' cola.
Spice girls first #1.
Hammertime.
Big events in our history. big BIG events.
You can remember where you were and what you were doing when Kurt Cobain topped himself?
That was a generation-defining moment, surely.
Also, the launch of MTV.
and 'classic' cola.
Spice girls first #1.
Hammertime.
Big events in our history. big BIG events.
MTV has always been there (I'd assume, we don't get it here, but its clone, Much, has always been around)
I have no recolection of classic cola
I'd always assumed that the Spice Girls were at #1 when time started
Can't Touch this.
I'd say Columbine. At least for you yanks.
There's no question that for your generation--and possibly for mine as well--the 9/11 attacks were a defining moment. My parents are of the generation who can answer the question "where were you when JFK was shot" and they know instantly. My generation--I'm 37--didn't really have that, short of seeing Challenger explode in midair or maybe the Oklahoma City bombing. Most of the big stuff happened elsewhere--the fall of the Soviet Union, the tearing down of the Berlin Wall, etc. What am I left with? Live Aid?
So yeah, the 9/11 attacks will be this generation's life-altering moment. I just hope that we don't wind up with a totalitarian government as a result of that alteration.
Although in some ways it seems more likely to happen, I am still more than optimistic that it won't.
And although I myself do not have the kind of perspective I'd like, my parents do. At least, my dad does: he was born in the middle of World War II, and Kennedy was shot on his 21st birthday. (He's always hated his birthday; it took me ages to finally find out why.) Though my mom can't match him on that regard, she did still see Kennedy shot as a kid, and watched all sorts of stuff in the sixties and seventies go down.
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 06:52
You can remember where you were and what you were doing when Kurt Cobain topped himself?
That was a generation-defining moment, surely.Can't help you.
Also, the launch of MTV. I can remember the first time I watched it, but we didn't have cable when I was a kid.
and 'classic' cola.Getting warmer
Spice girls first #1.Little late for me
Hammertime.Fuck you, man. That ain't right. ;)
Big events in our history. big BIG events.
:D
If I was interveiwed by Papa Bear, I'd come onto him. Just to see how he reacts.
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 06:55
Aye. 9/11 is merely the most recent, and while probably the most tragic in terms of the its effect on the country, that doesn't make it a more important event than all the other issues.
And really, it's effect was miniscual on the over all world than many other events. 9/11 was terrible, but (I know I'm going to get some flames thrown my way on this) it was played up much larger than it really was. There have been far worse, and far "smaller" events which impacted us much more greatly than the events of 9/11.
*prepares for flames*
Cannot think of a name
17-10-2006, 07:00
You can remember where you were and what you were doing when Kurt Cobain topped himself?
That was a generation-defining moment, surely.
.
The record store I worked at...imagine how irratating that was...
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 07:01
You can remember where you were and what you were doing when Kurt Cobain topped himself?
That was a generation-defining moment, surely.
I really don't give a damn what happens in terms of pop-culture. It's pointless, it worthless, and quite frankly allows stupidity to run rampant, causing people to care more about who screwed who in Hollywood rather than what's going on in the world. /jadedness.
Also, the launch of MTV.
and 'classic' cola.
Spice girls first #1.
Hammertime.
Don't give a damn, don't give a damn(even though I love the stuff), don't give a damn, and don't give a damn. Really, these issues just don't matter.
Big events in our history. big BIG events.
I now sense the sarcasm.
However, I'd like to say that I'm going to start a new party. The "I don't give a damn" party. You're gay? Great. I don't give a damn. You're Christian? Great, I don't give a damn. Same thing goes all around.
If I was interveiwed by Papa Bear, I'd come onto him. Just to see how he reacts.
...I know you meant that as flirting, but I interpreted that with the other meaning, making it sound utterly digusting...
Seangoli: Oh, I don't doubt that. That's why I usually don't bring it up when talking about such events. It just struck me personally, in many ways. For instance, the company my dad had been working for at the time was growing steadily, and my dad could have come close to making 1,000,000 per year. The 9/11 attack, however, sent the company crashing to the ground, eventually destroying my dad's job. His inability to find much work lead to us first moving to a little house in Baily, Colorado, then finally to move in my Aunt Linda's two bedroom house in Lakewood. A house that ended up having seven people and three large animals, as well as several small ones, living in it for a year. My little brother and I shared the laundry room as our bedroom. Luckily, that was over with by September 2004, and just last year, we actually managed to go so far as BUYING a new house, something we haven't done since we sold that place we owned for twelve years in Ohio.
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 07:02
And really, it's effect was miniscual on the over all world than many other events. 9/11 was terrible, but (I know I'm going to get some flames thrown my way on this) it was played up much larger than it really was. There have been far worse, and far "smaller" events which impacted us much more greatly than the events of 9/11.
*prepares for flames*
*Drives up in the Fire Truck of Liberal Power*
Got your back, bud. ;)
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 07:04
However, I'd like to say that I'm going to start a new party. The "I don't give a damn" party. You're gay? Great. I don't give a damn. You're Christian? Great, I don't give a damn. Same thing goes all around.Wanda Sykes has a bit in her new standup special where she goes on a tear about how the older she gets, the more often she says "I don't give a fuck." It happens to all of us, I think.
Sarkhaan
17-10-2006, 07:05
This thread has done what was intended. You guys are even more to the left than I originally thought. :eek:
You guys are full of Hate. This is why the Democrats have such trouble winning elections, even against a party that committed suicide long ago.
Well your Hero, Keith Olbermann, attacked O'reilly on his show, again, and went on a little rant about it, again.
Hate? With a capital "H"? Does this mean that you intend on personifying hatered into an abstract, yet more tangible object? See, when you capitalize the "H", you make it a proper noun, which instantly turns it into a tangible, similar to Dobbs' cake.
Damn, I need to study less while I'm on NS....
As for Bush's economics, when the economy was in the pits, didn't the neocons scream about how the president really doesn't have control over the economy, and how it was really clintons policys coming forward?
Why doesn't this apply now?
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 07:07
Wanda Sykes has a bit in her new standup special where she goes on a tear about how the older she gets, the more often she says "I don't give a fuck." It happens to all of us, I think.
Worst part, being 20, it's quite hard as it seems that everybody else in my peer group(Hell even well into the 30's) seems to give more of a damn than they should.
Why, might I ask, do people care about such meaningless dribble? It doesn't effect their life at all, and yet they obsess completely over it. I read the tabloids only late at night when I'm work, and I have absolutely nothing to do just to pass the time. I can't imagine obsessing over this crap.
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 07:10
*Drives up in the Fire Truck of Liberal Power*
Got your back, bud. ;)
Thank God. I know it was terrible... but it did not have a very strong effect on us, really. Raise an eyebrow to terrorism to the general public(The most of which still don't know a damn thing about it even today), perhaps. It is a problem to be dealt with, but it just seems that people took the event and ran with it... and here we are today. FUBAR'ed beyond all recognition.
Sarkhaan
17-10-2006, 07:10
And really, it's effect was miniscual on the over all world than many other events. 9/11 was terrible, but (I know I'm going to get some flames thrown my way on this) it was played up much larger than it really was. There have been far worse, and far "smaller" events which impacted us much more greatly than the events of 9/11.
*prepares for flames*
oh, hell...there have been books that changed the world more than 9/11.
This is coming from a person who lost people in 9/11. It was played up. Without our consent. It became a catch phrase, rather than something we could actually properly mourn. It went from being the great unification of the nation, a moment of great promise and hope for what we would become, to something to fear...something that was used to justify the greatest expansion of presidential powers in US history, two wars of varying justifiability, and countless other programs.
9/11 impacted NYC and the suburbs greatly. It really had very little to do with the US in general, untill it was perverted beyond recognition. That isn't wholly Bush's fault, but he didn't help.
*grabs fire extinguisher, joins Nazz in the lineup*
you go for the big ones, I'll catch the flareups;)
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 07:11
Worst part, being 20, it's quite hard as it seems that everybody else in my peer group(Hell even well into the 30's) seems to give more of a damn than they should.
Why, might I ask, do people care about such meaningless dribble? It doesn't effect their life at all, and yet they obsess completely over it. I read the tabloids only late at night when I'm work, and I have absolutely nothing to do just to pass the time. I can't imagine obsessing over this crap.
It's conditioning. Your peers have been taught, via consumer culture, that this crap matters. My generation got hit with it as well, but there were swaths of the country that weren't connected in as well. Like I said, when I was a kid, we didn't have cable, and my family wasn't an oddity. Lots of my friends didn't have it either. And the internet was still a dream. Hell, PCs were still for the upper middle class at best. But my daughter, who is only slightly younger than you, is inundated with this crap all the time. No wonder she thinks it matters--to her, it does because it's all she's ever really known.
Sarkhaan
17-10-2006, 07:11
Worst part, being 20, it's quite hard as it seems that everybody else in my peer group(Hell even well into the 30's) seems to give more of a damn than they should.
Why, might I ask, do people care about such meaningless dribble? It doesn't effect their life at all, and yet they obsess completely over it. I read the tabloids only late at night when I'm work, and I have absolutely nothing to do just to pass the time. I can't imagine obsessing over this crap.
me and you will get along fine (I'm also 20, and agree with you)
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 07:12
oh, hell...there have been books that changed the world more than 9/11.
This is coming from a person who lost people in 9/11. It was played up. Without our consent. It became a catch phrase, rather than something we could actually properly mourn. It went from being the great unification of the nation, a moment of great promise and hope for what we would become, to something to fear...something that was used to justify the greatest expansion of presidential powers in US history, two wars of varying justifiability, and countless other programs.
9/11 impacted NYC and the suburbs greatly. It really had very little to do with the US in general, untill it was perverted beyond recognition. That isn't wholly Bush's fault, but he didn't help.
*grabs fire extinguisher, joins Nazz in the lineup*
you go for the big ones, I'll catch the flareups;)
An army of three... we can stop any blaze of flames! I'm the frontline, though. You guys stay back up. If anyone goes down, it ought to be me. I live a rather pointless existance.
Sarkhaan
17-10-2006, 07:15
An army of three... we can stop any blaze of flames! I'm the frontline, though. You guys stay back up. If anyone goes down, it ought to be me. I live a rather pointless existance.
I'm an English major, Nazz is an English professor.
Really, we're pretty pointless, too;)
Thank God. I know it was terrible... but it did not have a very strong effect on us, really. Raise an eyebrow to terrorism to the general public(The most of which still don't know a damn thing about it even today), perhaps. It is a problem to be dealt with, but it just seems that people took the event and ran with it... and here we are today. FUBAR'ed beyond all recognition.
Because America forgets. We forgot Oaklohoma City, we forgot the first World Trade Center, we forgot PanAm, we forgot Pearl Harbor (Listening to President Bush saying our oceans no longer protect us made me laugh), and eventually we will forget 9/11.
As a country, we're rather like Peter Pan, we keep forgetting things like that. It makes America as a country rather optimistic and forward looking, it also means that, as a country, we have a tendency to over react when things like this do happen.
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 07:18
Because America forgets. We forgot Oaklohoma City, we forgot the first World Trade Center, we forgot PanAm, we forgot Pearl Harbor (Listening to President Bush saying our oceans no longer protect us made me laugh), and eventually we will forget 9/11.
As a country, we're rather like Peter Pan, we keep forgetting things like that. It makes America as a country rather optimistic and forward looking, it also means that, as a country, we have a tendency to over react when things like this do happen.
To say history isn't our best subject as a society is to be quite generous.
Thank God. I know it was terrible... but it did not have a very strong effect on us, really. Raise an eyebrow to terrorism to the general public(The most of which still don't know a damn thing about it even today), perhaps. It is a problem to be dealt with, but it just seems that people took the event and ran with it... and here we are today. FUBAR'ed beyond all recognition.
It did affect me, as I pointed out earlier. *annoyed at being ignored*
However, even that effect was, at most, a temporary thing. I quite frankly hope we can just look back on 9/11 the way we do everything else: something that was just a part of history that does not have any real effect on us now.
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 07:22
It's conditioning. Your peers have been taught, via consumer culture, that this crap matters. My generation got hit with it as well, but there were swaths of the country that weren't connected in as well. Like I said, when I was a kid, we didn't have cable, and my family wasn't an oddity. Lots of my friends didn't have it either. And the internet was still a dream. Hell, PCs were still for the upper middle class at best. But my daughter, who is only slightly younger than you, is inundated with this crap all the time. No wonder she thinks it matters--to her, it does because it's all she's ever really known.
Wierd thing is, I should have been the pretty apt to it. My father, now a *Baptist*(Converted from Catholicism) WAS Republican, now Democrat(It's messed up somehow), and was rather religious in my Childhood. I watched television alot as a kid(Mostly Discovery Channel, though. Best Channel on normal cable, by far).
However, I was a social outcast through most of High School. Once Junior High hit, I WAS the bottom of the barrel. I remember all I really wanted was to "fit in", and tried to get into pop-culture, didn't work. Never grew an interest. I detested school sports completely. I couldn't imagine why my peers obsessed over something so meaningly, I mean mediocre at best High School athletes? What the hell? Then I turned Atheist, around 13 or 14, and detested society even more. Turned agnost at 16 or 17, grew to "accept" people's views(albeit ignorant and sometimes completely stupid) on things, and slowly have grown more cynical, to an extent where if something of Pop-culture is even mentioned I go off. Scary thing is, I've spent much of my current years trying to get people to be less ignorant, and yet now I am growing the feeling that I may be able to use it to my own advantage.
I also coined a term in High School for such people as having "Delusions of Mediocracy", as I noticed that people really don't have any ambition anymore. They want their simple world, their easy world, they don't want to do anything great or even good. They just want to live in a world of easiness and nothing to complicated...
But that's another rant for another day.
Sarkhaan
17-10-2006, 07:25
It did affect me, as I pointed out earlier. *annoyed at being ignored*
However, even that effect was, at most, a temporary thing. I quite frankly hope we can just look back on 9/11 the way we do everything else: something that was just a part of history that does not have any real effect on us now.
oh, I'm sorry, did you say something?;)
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 07:25
I'm an English major, Nazz is an English professor.
Really, we're pretty pointless, too;)
I got ya beat. Anthropology major. Second year. I have literally no point. You at least can see you are trying to teach people to speak... by the time I graduate, I will have no contributions to the world. Hell, I've never had a girlfriend, so there really is not a chance of me reproducing.
Seangoli
17-10-2006, 07:26
To say history isn't our best subject as a society is to be quite generous.
It's really quite alarming. However, it kind of makes sense. An ignorant society is an easily controlled society. Perhaps a conspiracy to keep students ignorant of the past by filling their minds with meaningless pop culture?
Sarkhaan
17-10-2006, 07:29
I got ya beat. Anthropology major. Second year. I have literally no point. You at least can see you are trying to teach people to speak... by the time I graduate, I will have no contributions to the world. Hell, I've never had a girlfriend, so there really is not a chance of me reproducing.
well, I am an English ed major, but who knows if I'll end up going into that permanently. I could easily make a better living bartending (sad, but true). Although, becoming a professor is becoming increasingly appealing....
Anthropology would have been my second choice in majors (okay, English was my 2nd, but then I realized I hate business, and so became first). It might be my masters work. Or maybe psych. Yeah. I really have no idea where I'm going in life. God, I love the uncertainty.:)
oh, I'm sorry, did you say something?;)
...you beat me by one day on the terror alert, and now this?!
Bah.
Nazz: I definitely agree that not too many people have ambition of the nature you speak of anymore. At times, neither do I, though I try to avoid that, as I would very much like to do something truly important for the world. What that might end up being, I have absolutely no idea.
Sarkhaan
17-10-2006, 07:39
...you beat me by one day on the terror alert, and now this?!
Bah.
Nazz: I definitely agree that not too many people have ambition of the nature you speak of anymore. At times, neither do I, though I try to avoid that, as I would very much like to do something truly important for the world. What that might end up being, I have absolutely no idea.
aww...I'm sorry:fluffle:
but yeah, I completely agree. There are definatly days (right now, for example) where I really just want to say "screw it", drop out of school, move to Phuket or Tuvalu, and make my living giving hula hoop lessons (yes, me and a friend actually have this plan drawn up). But overall, I want to do something worthwhile and meaningful
The Nazz
17-10-2006, 12:43
It's really quite alarming. However, it kind of makes sense. An ignorant society is an easily controlled society. Perhaps a conspiracy to keep students ignorant of the past by filling their minds with meaningless pop culture?
I have this theory. After WWII, the US dumped a shitload of money into public education, from kindergarten through the public university system, and it resulted in one of the best-educated generations ever--my parents' generation, i.e. hippies. Now, hippies are today represented as losers, drug users who spent all their time fucking and spitting on Vietnam troops, etc., but what they really were were people who were smart enough to see the system for what it was, and instead of sitting back and taking it, they tried to fight back, and to a limited extent, they succeeded.
But the power structure survived, and started defunding public education, and it has been doing the same thing ever since. The public education system today is a shadow of what it was even when I was in school, but there's been a corresponding increase in the effect of pop culture.
Teh_pantless_hero
17-10-2006, 13:16
Because America forgets. We forgot Oaklohoma City, we forgot the first World Trade Center, we forgot PanAm, we forgot Pearl Harbor (Listening to President Bush saying our oceans no longer protect us made me laugh), and eventually we will forget 9/11.
Don't forget more important things like the Japanese Internment.
Similization
17-10-2006, 13:34
But the power structure survived, and started defunding public education, and it has been doing the same thing ever since. The public education system today is a shadow of what it was even when I was in school, but there's been a corresponding increase in the effect of pop culture.If you too start calling the anarcho punks the revenge of the hippies, I swear I'll vomit so hard you'll need a change of clothes.
Stephistan
17-10-2006, 14:18
Not sure if someone has already addressed this or not as I didn't read the entire thread. But, why would anyone waste their time watching a wing of the Republican party (Fox News) simply give Bush an open forum to spew the same old tired talking points that I can recite with my eyes closed?
Congo--Kinshasa
17-10-2006, 14:20
Not sure if someone has already addressed this or not as I didn't read the entire thread. But, why would anyone waste their time watching a wing of the Republican party (Fox News) simply give Bush an open forum to spew the same old tired talking points that I can recite with my eyes closed?
Three words: Know. Your. Enemy.
Stephistan
17-10-2006, 14:22
Three words: Know. Your. Enemy.
Which might hold merit if your enemy ever changed his talking points....lol
UpwardThrust
17-10-2006, 14:25
Not sure if someone has already addressed this or not as I didn't read the entire thread. But, why would anyone waste their time watching a wing of the Republican party (Fox News) simply give Bush an open forum to spew the same old tired talking points that I can recite with my eyes closed?
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
:D
Stephistan
17-10-2006, 14:27
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
:D
Hahaha, yes, I seen the clip on Jon Stewart. That would be a hard job for him given there was no connection. But pure classic gold! *LOL*
P.S. Nice to see you're still around. :)
UpwardThrust
17-10-2006, 14:31
Hahaha, yes, I seen the clip on Jon Stewart. That would be a hard job for him given there was no connection. But pure classic gold! *LOL*
P.S. Nice to see you're still around. :)
You too :) had not seen you post in quite a while.
I plan on being around for a long time :)
Stephistan
17-10-2006, 14:35
You too :) had not seen you post in quite a while.
I plan on being around for a long time :)
Yeah, I rarely come by anymore. I still read often enough, but rarely post. I've been putting most of my political energy into my radio show. :)
UpwardThrust
17-10-2006, 14:43
Yeah, I rarely come by anymore. I still read often enough, but rarely post. I've been putting most of my political energy into my radio show. :)
Woah I did not know ya did radio ...
Lol Ill just give ya another bushism to laugh at
"I have a record in office, as well. And all Americans have seen that record. September the 4th, 2001, I stood in the ruins of the Twin Towers. It's a day I will never forget." --George W. Bush, Marlton, New Jersey, Oct. 18, 2004
"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" --George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004
Stephistan
17-10-2006, 14:56
Woah I did not know ya did radio ...
Lol Ill just give ya another bushism to laugh at
"I have a record in office, as well. And all Americans have seen that record. September the 4th, 2001, I stood in the ruins of the Twin Towers. It's a day I will never forget." --George W. Bush, Marlton, New Jersey, Oct. 18, 2004
"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" --George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004
Haha what can I say, Bush is a moron, anyone who does not realize that by now never will.
As for the radio thing, yep, been on air for 36 weeks now. You can check it out if you want by either going to my site or better yet...
BZoO HomeGrown Radio (http://www.bzoo.org)
Dinaverg
17-10-2006, 16:11
...FUBAR'ed beyond all recognition.
Fucked up beyond all recognition'ed beyond all recognition?
Sheerly for interests sake (not that I expect to get many intelligent replies) can anyone tell me why they hate Bush so much?
Why I dislike George W. Bush
1. Tax breaks for those who need it least
2. Regardless of who you blame the "most" his administration made numerous tactical errors before 9/11
3. Wasn't fully "truthful" as to his reasons for going into the Iraq War
4. Has a tag motto of "smear and spin" thanks to Karl Rove
5. Largest trade deficit in history
6. Largest US Debt evet
7. Refuses to go through the proper channels to do things ie. FISA court, congress ie. detentions indefinately
8. Legislates torture into our "moral code" and puts at risk myself and the brave men and women who serve this country.
9. Refuses to be held accountable for his mistakes and blames others to scapegoat them:cool:
I could go on, but those are the first nine things off the top of my head.
Losing It Big TIme
17-10-2006, 18:41
Why I dislike George W. Bush
1. Tax breaks for those who need it least
2. Regardless of who you blame the "most" his administration made numerous tactical errors before 9/11
3. Wasn't fully "truthful" as to his reasons for going into the Iraq War
4. Has a tag motto of "smear and spin" thanks to Karl Rove
5. Largest trade deficit in history
6. Largest US Debt evet
7. Refuses to go through the proper channels to do things ie. FISA court, congress ie. detentions indefinately
8. Legislates torture into our "moral code" and puts at risk myself and the brave men and women who serve this country.
9. Refuses to be held accountable for his mistakes and blames others to scapegoat them:cool:
I could go on, but those are the first nine things off the top of my head.
Standing ovation....:) Absolutely spot on. Especially with #1 and #6 as these are things that people forget to talk about enough........
The Realm of The Realm
17-10-2006, 18:41
An army of three... we can stop any blaze of flames! I'm the frontline, though. You guys stay back up. If anyone goes down, it ought to be me. I live a rather pointless existance.
Perhaps, in a few moments, you'll notice the mumbling of the crowd behind you. We number thousands, we who have been steadily drinking beer with no Port-O-Let in sight.
We'll piss on anything you guys miss ...
Don't forget more important things like the Japanese Internment.
and the 442.