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Heres a simple question...

Pirates or ninjas? :p

Ninjas...!

have to say ninjas for my heritage.

Pirates. Ninjas are just overrated.

Pirates knew how to have FUN. Ninjas just wear black all the time.

Pirates were the cool kids who went to parties, drank rum and plundered booty. Ninjas were the goth kids with no friends.

Cossacks.

Ninjas...!

vote!

Ninjas, because they can ambush people pretty good and they know really nice kung fu.

Ninjas are more universally feared. Especially by paranoid lunatics and/or drug addicts.

Pirates, on the other hand, knew how to have a good time. Usually at someone else's expense.

If I had to invite one or the other to my party, I'd definitely invite pirates.

But if you ask me what I'm looking over my shoulder for on a dark night as I try to slip out of my muddy clothes so my wife won't know I was playing in the mud again, it's ninjas. And her. :p

i voted pirates


but the obvious answer is "vikings"

To aid in this discussion, I have a handy reference chart.
http://archive.gamespy.com/grudge/2004.03/2004.03.15_results.shtml

You know why pirates are better than ninjas? Pirates have guns, and boats. Ninjas are gay.

i voted pirates


but the obvious answer is "vikings"

Beat me to it!!!

http://www.amlwch.net/images/viking.jpg

FTW!

Ninjas aren't even real. Most of the abilities we hear about, like entertaining askaninja.com, are completely made-up bullshit very similar to hearing endless bullshit about Chuck Norris and how sexually attractive supposedly heterosexual internet boys supposedly don't find him.

Pirates however, were very real. Like Blackbeard. One time he was playing poker and he shot one of his crewmen under the table, in the kneecaps. Why? He answered that he needed to kill one of 'em every so often just to remind them who he was.

BAD-ASS. So don't even bother coming up with some fake ninja story. It didn't happen, it's not impressive.

Here's another reason: Captain Morgan Rum.

Where's the ninja alcohol? Oh that's right, they don't have one, because they're a bunch of teetotalling prudes.

Ninjas pwn.

Ninjas aren't even real. Most of the abilities we hear about, like entertaining askaninja.com, are completely made-up bullshit very similar to hearing endless bullshit about Chuck Norris and how sexually attractive supposedly heterosexual internet boys supposedly don't find him.

Pirates however, were very real. Like Blackbeard. One time he was playing poker and he shot one of his crewmen under the table, in the kneecaps. Why? He answered that he needed to kill one of 'em every so often just to remind them who he was.

BAD-ASS. So don't even bother coming up with some fake ninja story. It didn't happen, it's not impressive.

Here's another reason: Captain Morgan Rum.

Where's the ninja alcohol? Oh that's right, they don't have one, because they're a bunch of teetotalling prudes.

Wanna know what the ninja rum is? Zima.

Wanna know what the ninja rum is? Zima.

Hahaha! Nice.

Except they don't even drink it.

And neither does anyone else.

Hahaha! Nice.

Except they don't even drink it.

And neither does anyone else.

HA! That's true. Here's an embarrassing story. This one time I was hanging out at a buddies house and for some reason he had like thirty Zima's in the fridge. I called him a bitch for having them, so I bragged that I could drink every one of them and not get drunk. I drank like fifteen of them and I fell asleep I was so ripped.

HA! That's true. Here's an embarrassing story. This one time I was hanging out at a buddies house and for some reason he had like thirty Zima's in the fridge. I called him a bitch for having them, so I bragged that I could drink every one of them and not get drunk. I drank like fifteen of them and I fell asleep I was so ripped.

That's not too embarassing. You managed to hork free alcohol. I mean, yeah, it's zima, but its FREE!

That's not too embarassing. You managed to hork free alcohol. I mean, yeah, it's zima, but its FREE!

Very true. Every college students dreams come true. It was funny though, because towards the end I kept laughing because I was sooo drunk on Zima. But Captain Morgan's a man's drink. That, and Jaeger!

Ninjas aren't even real. Most of the abilities we hear about, like entertaining askaninja.com, are completely made-up bullshit very similar to hearing endless bullshit about Chuck Norris and how sexually attractive supposedly heterosexual internet boys supposedly don't find him.

Pirates however, were very real. Like Blackbeard. One time he was playing poker and he shot one of his crewmen under the table, in the kneecaps. Why? He answered that he needed to kill one of 'em every so often just to remind them who he was.

BAD-ASS. So don't even bother coming up with some fake ninja story. It didn't happen, it's not impressive.

Here's another reason: Captain Morgan Rum.

Where's the ninja alcohol? Oh that's right, they don't have one, because they're a bunch of teetotalling prudes.

You are absolutely correct in every way. Especially with this part:

Captain Morgan Rum
Anybody who disagrees has either:
1)Never tried Captain Morgan
-OR-
2)No taste

Also, Pirates have their own letter in The Alphabet of Manliness.
That's pretty bad-ass.

Ninjas aren't even real. Most of the abilities we hear about, like entertaining askaninja.com, are completely made-up bullshit very similar to hearing endless bullshit about Chuck Norris and how sexually attractive supposedly heterosexual internet boys supposedly don't find him.

Pirates however, were very real. Like Blackbeard. One time he was playing poker and he shot one of his crewmen under the table, in the kneecaps. Why? He answered that he needed to kill one of 'em every so often just to remind them who he was.

BAD-ASS. So don't even bother coming up with some fake ninja story. It didn't happen, it's not impressive.

Here's another reason: Captain Morgan Rum.

Where's the ninja alcohol? Oh that's right, they don't have one, because they're a bunch of teetotalling prudes.

Ninjas were real. Also they were way the hell better at fighting than pirates. Pirates were cool and all but you can't beat ninjas.

How can you say that ninjas were fake? In addition to serving the emperor, theyey were, in fact, assassins of the highest caliber, mercenaries, masters of gunpowder, swords, shuriken, knives, rope, and a plethura of other weapons, and a number of hand to hand martial arts (pirates might master swords to a certain degree, guns, cannoneering, and haggard street-fighting styles). They wore black because they usually attacked at night (what do pirates do? Oh wait! they yell insults and fire at eachother like idiots!).

If you hired a ninja as an assassin, you could be sure they would never reveal the fact that you employed them... even at the cost of their lives (the minute a pirate found out his life was in danger, he would cheat and lie and do anything to get out of the situation... no honor at all).

Ninjas didn't kill their comrades for no good reason. Ninjas never killed innocent people simply for personal gain. Ninjas have more grace, speed, finesse, and skill than pirates.

Ninjas drink Sake.

Even if ninjas were/are fake (a ridiculous idea... considering all the readily available history on them. Anyone could say the same thing about pirates... and be just as foolish), that has nothing whatsoever to do with this poll. In a theoretical battle between a ninja and a pirate, a ninja would undoubtedly win.

Ninjas drink Sake.

Rum is waaaaay yummier, and it makes you invincible.

In any event, I thought the obvious interpretation is that the "REAL Ultimate" ninja was fake and never really did exsist.

Ninjas of course. They kick pirates ass. And nothing is so deadly like an shamrock shurike. See here. ;)

http://www.drmcninja.com/page.php?issue=2

Ninjas were real. Also they were way the hell better at fighting than pirates. Pirates were cool and all but you can't beat ninjas.

Why would feudal Japanese warriors be better than 17th and 18th century European/American ones? Let's face it, Japan was isolated for a long time and its warfare history was much less comprehensive than that of Europe. The pirates simply have a much bigger martial history, not to mention generally superior technology.

How can you say that ninjas were fake? In addition to serving the emperor, theyey were, in fact, assassins of the highest caliber, mercenaries, masters of gunpowder, swords, shuriken, knives, rope, and a plethura of other weapons, and a number of hand to hand martial arts (pirates might master swords to a certain degree, guns, cannoneering, and haggard street-fighting styles). They wore black because they usually attacked at night (what do pirates do? Oh wait! they yell insults and fire at eachother like idiots!).

1. Ninjas are fake as described by their fans. I mean you guys also say they could transform into animals and live forever and fly and shit.

2. Masters of gunpowder? Ha! Not bloody likely. Pirates worked with superior, effective naval artillery on a routine basis. Ninjas, if they bothered to use gunpowder, used it as flash and fright.

3. Shuriken? Yeah okay, they get shuriken, but pirates get pistols and muskets. Guess which weapon is better.

4. Swords and martial arts skills - can be impressive, but doesn't make up for ninjas essentially medievalism as opposed to modernism. Besides, pirates used swords too, and unlike ninjas, their style AND sword allowed for successful parrying. Ever see someone parry a cutlass with a ninja-ken? Me neither.

5. That pirates would bother with insults and flashiness at all shows how much cooller they are.

If you hired a ninja as an assassin, you could be sure they would never reveal the fact that you employed them... even at the cost of their lives (the minute a pirate found out his life was in danger, he would cheat and lie and do anything to get out of the situation... no honor at all).

I'm sure ninjas are very discrete, but that's just what you'd expect from a contract hit-man... or a mistress.

That bit about pirates being cowardly is just untrue. Blackbeard didn't run no matter how many times his life was in danger. He stayed and fought. He died after like 5 gunshots and over 20 times being stabbed. He was like the Proto-Rasputin.

Ninjas didn't kill their comrades for no good reason.

Well, most of the time pirates didn't either. Blackbeard had a good reason - he had to maintain his reputation.

Ninjas never killed innocent people simply for personal gain.

Of course they did! That was their JOB! Killing people, for personal gain.

On the other hand, pirates were democratically organized and they shared their profits equally amongst the crew, and also helped their nations by privateering. So you see, they were really quite selfless.

Ninjas have more grace, speed, finesse, and skill than pirates.

Grace, speed, finesse? Yeah, okay. But so does a supermodel, and that doesn't make her better than pirates.

As for skill... well, depends on the skill. Hiding at night? Ninjas. Naval Warfare and Armed Redistribtion of Wealth? Pirates.

Ninjas drink Sake.

But sake is not named after, nor does it really have anything to do with ninjas nor ninjadom. And even with that aside, it still doesn't compare with Captain Morgan. Arrr.

In a theoretical battle between a ninja and a pirate, a ninja would undoubtedly win.

Pirate(s) vs Ninja(s). This isn't about which one would win in some obviously contrived boxing match. Pirates fight at sea, in effective maritime warfare groups. Ninjas fight more or less alone, on land, and only when they can achieve surprise, usually against unarmed or sleeping opponents. Unless they can find a pirate sleeping, on land, they haven't got a prayer. They wouldn't even know how to operate a ship, let alone fight with one.

Y'know, I've once read an interesting article about hypothetical match of European knight versus Japanese Samurai:)

Someone has mentioned Cossacks, I'm with this guy - it's something from my part of the world. As about ninjas and pirates, I think I'd prefer pirates. I don't like too much fascination with something so exotic as Japanese culture.

Pirates ftw! They're awesome plus they drink rum, my drink of choice. I would have been a pirate had I lived back then so pirates easily. Plus ninjas are lame and how can you not love jack sparrow :p

Rum is waaaaay yummier, and it makes you invincible.

its true

I've let google image search answer for me... first results...

Ninja
http://www.gratuitouslylongdomainname.net/PhotoGallery/Ninja%20(Sais).jpg


Pirates
http://www.users.nac.net/ronzalme/Portfolio/Pirates.gif

Googlefight:

'pirates'=97,200,000

'ninjas'=6,320,000

Winner: 'pirates'!

'Nuff said. :)

I have never in my life seen a real pirate, I doubt they exist anymore. Nobody at sea these days talks and dresses like a pirate and carries around a musket and sword, with a parrot perched upon his shoulder. However, there are still ninjas around who dress as such, and train with the traditional weapons and master the skills of stealth.

I'll tell you what happened to the pirates. The ninjas killed them all. :)

1998 called, they want their thread back..


(Pirates, ftw)

I have never in my life seen a real pirate, I doubt they exist anymore. Nobody at sea these days talks and dresses like a pirate and carries around a musket and sword, with a parrot perched upon his shoulder. However, there are still ninjas around who dress as such, and train with the traditional weapons and master the skills of stealth.

I'll tell you what happened to the pirates. The ninjas killed them all. :)

We played pirate a lot when I still fenced, but I'll have to vote ninja for my own training. However I will mention that there are in fact modern day pirates still sailing.. They hang out around the east coast of Africa, and the US Navy even captured a few recently.

Also because of this site: www.askaninja.com

Hmm... pirates are cool... but today I was a ninja...

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9470/dsc00069oz5.jpg

We played pirate a lot when I still fenced, but I'll have to vote ninja for my own training.

Also because of this site: www.askaninja.com

That was just playing, I doubt you actually sailed in a ship. Like I said, there are no real pirates left.

Anyway, have you trained in ninjitsu? Me too. :)

1998 called, they want their thread back..


(Pirates, ftw)



Exactly my thought hehe, hadn't seen this argument in a while as I had thought it was all sorted. Pirates rule, Ninjas suck. It's so obvious why discuss it.

Pirates = Old school

Ninjas = 14 years old leet kiddies who think fraggin/head shot ability is vocational and girls will love them for it.


Also note Pirates have Skull N Crossbones which is way better than the ninja...errrrr black cloth?

As to Rum, Cap'n Morgan is good but lets not forget Sailor Jerry and Mount Gay Rum both gifts to Pirates from the gods.


BTW: wtf is Zima? sounds like a russian 8bit game?

However I will mention that there are in fact modern day pirates still sailing.. They hang out around the east coast of Africa, and the US Navy even captured a few recently.

Were these so called pirates wearing eyepatches and funky clothes, and said 'yarr mateys' a lot while drinking rum? I doubt it, all the proper pirates have been killed by ninjas.

That was just playing, I doubt you actually sailed in a ship. Like I said, there are no real pirates left.

Anyway, have you trained in ninjitsu? Me too. :)

Bujinkan, but we spend a good amount of time on the ninjitsu side of the house. Those endurance drills suck! But I love them. :)

I have never in my life seen a real pirate, I doubt they exist anymore. Nobody at sea these days talks and dresses like a pirate and carries around a musket and sword, with a parrot perched upon his shoulder. However, there are still ninjas around who dress as such, and train with the traditional weapons and master the skills of stealth.

I'll tell you what happened to the pirates. The ninjas killed them all. :)

Ninja please...

There is still a lot of pirating going on in the Carribean and the Asian seas. Pirates today have machine guns and small/fast boats for catching their prey off guard.

That being said, Ninja are better. Real Ninja anyway. The Ninja has stealth, style, technique, fighting ability all superior to the typical pirate. But then again, we are comparing two completely different things. Ninjas are not very adept to raiding cargo vessels, and pirates are probably not the ones to call for a discreet high-profile assassination. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Bujinkan, but we spend a good amount of time on the ninjitsu side of the house. Those endurance drills suck! But I love them. :)

Oh yeah. Our 'warm ups' were so bad that sometimes I was aching all over before we even started the lesson properly.

No question about it. Ninjas all the way.

Brutal Overlord of PRG

Oh yeah. Our 'warm ups' were so bad that sometimes I was aching all over before we even started the lesson properly.

Out of curiosity, where can you study ninjitsu in Manchester?

I'll tell you what happened to Pirates. After years of kicking ass (including those of ninjas) at sea, they got bored and decided to take up roles as politicians. Think about this, George Washington had wooden teeth, if he had a wooden leg it would have blown his cover and no one would have voted for him so, in an act of blatant defiance and pirate-try, he replaced his teeth with wooden ones carved out of the peg used by Blackbeard.

Fact 2. Why do you think George Bush has such a hard time speaking? It's because he wants to say arghhh after every other word. And the war in Iraq is clear evidence of his pirate heritage, who else would send troops into a hostile area on a whim? Pirates would.

Case Closed.

...I tried to tell you people.

Meh, you'll levy your tribute just like all the others when the Vikings come to your village!

I'll tell you what happened to Pirates. After years of kicking ass (including those of ninjas) at sea, they got bored and decided to take up roles as politicians. Think about this, George Washington had wooden teeth, if he had a wooden leg it would have blown his cover and no one would have voted for him so, in an act of blatant defiance and pirate-try, he replaced his teeth with wooden ones carved out of the peg used by Blackbeard.

Fact 2. Why do you think George Bush has such a hard time speaking? It's because he wants to say arghhh after every other word. And the war in Iraq is clear evidence of his pirate heritage, who else would send troops into a hostile area on a whim? Pirates would.

Case Closed.

I think this calls for some photoshopped pictures of shrub as a pirate, or possibly as a cabin boy being brutally raped by dick cheney as a pirate. I can't decide.

Out of curiosity, where can you study ninjitsu in Manchester?

Salford University (you don't have to be a student there to train).

There are a few other people who teach it as well, but I'm not actually sure where.

Salford University (you don't have to be a student there to train).

There are a few other people who teach it as well, but I'm not actually sure where.

Hmmm, went past there today but it's a bit of a trek. I'll have to think on it.

Also:
Pirates are the chosen people of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. They get to go to heaven, where there's a Beer Volcano and a Stripper Factory. That's right. A BEER VOLCANO and a STRIPPPER FACTORY. Do Ninjas get those things? No! For fighting His chosen people, I'd imagine they go to Hell. Or at least not get access to the best parts of Heaven. In Hell, the beer is probably stale or something, and the strippers have venereal diseases. Therefore, not only do pirates win at life, they also win after life.

Additionally, Pirates have International Talk Like a Pirate Day. Do Ninjas have their own holiday? If they do, it obviously sucks, because nobody knows about it.

Pirates also were pretty democratic, especially for their time. Ninjas weren't. They had a ruler who they obeyed unquestionably. The ruler was always right and was pretty much sacred. Kinda like Big Brother. Also like Big Brother, they formed myths about themselves, about how they descended from demons and how they were invincible and unending and stuff. They tried to get people to be afraid of them, thinking that they could be watching at any moment.

Basically, Pirates formed democracies; Ninjas formed dictatorships. Ninja lovers, why do you hate freedom?

Also:
Pirates are the chosen people of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. They get to go to heaven, where there's a Beer Volcano and a Stripper Factory. That's right. A BEER VOLCANO and a STRIPPPER FACTORY. Do Ninjas get those things? No! For fighting His chosen people, I'd imagine they go to Hell. Or at least not get access to the best parts of Heaven. In Hell, the beer is probably stale or something, and the strippers have venereal diseases. Therefore, not only do pirates win at life, they also win after life.

Additionally, Pirates have International Talk Like a Pirate Day. Do Ninjas have their own holiday? If they do, it obviously sucks, because nobody knows about it.

Pirates also were pretty democratic, especially for their time. Ninjas weren't. They had a ruler who they obeyed unquestionably. The ruler was always right and was pretty much sacred. Kinda like Big Brother. Also like Big Brother, they formed myths about themselves, about how they descended from demons and how they were invincible and unending and stuff. They tried to get people to be afraid of them, thinking that they could be watching at any moment.

Basically, Pirates formed democracies; Ninjas formed dictatorships. Ninja lovers, why do you hate freedom?

I won't get inside this topic again. Pirates were monsters. I am really surprised to see the kind of crap that people turn from under the table in this silly "Ninjas vs. Pirates" debate.

"Pirates formed democracies", of course, like the movie, you are piece of anglo saxon that do not know anything about what the caribbean is, or was, for that matter.

"Pirates also were pretty democratic, especially for their time", as above, you have no idea about what are you talking about. Ask the victims of their pillages if they were democratic.

And they shouldn't have a Holiday, as you stated. Having a pirate holiday, for us in the caribbean, is an insult, almost as insulting as if we state a "Bomb like a Macho Muhaidin" day.

I'll dress my little kids as Osama Rightful Fighters, because they pwn both Pirates and ninjas. And I'll start enjoying the "Talk Like Osama Day"

Pirates win. Because modern pirates have automatic weapons and getaway speedboats. Modern ninjas have the same stuff original ninjas had, just mass produced.

Spartans.

Arrr... PIRATES!

1.Cannons are cannons are cannons!
2.Sabres are cooler than ninja-to!
3.Guns shoot farther than shurikens!
4.A pirate can travel the seven seas. Ninjas cannot go anywhere out of Japan!
5.Rhum!
6.A good barroom brawl!
7.The governor's daughter!
8.Tobacco!
9.Booty!

"Pirates formed democracies", of course, like the movie, you are piece of anglo saxon that do not know anything about what the caribbean is, or was, for that matter.

What movie? This is more or less a historical fact.

"Pirates also were pretty democratic, especially for their time", as above, you have no idea about what are you talking about. Ask the victims of their pillages if they were democratic.

Ha! Ask the victims of the Greek democracies, or the USA's bombing campaigns the same question. It doesn't matter - being democratic has absolutely nothing to do with being "nice." Strawman!

And they shouldn't have a Holiday, as you stated. Having a pirate holiday, for us in the caribbean, is an insult, almost as insulting as if we state a "Bomb like a Macho Muhaidin" day.

I'll dress my little kids as Osama Rightful Fighters, because they pwn both Pirates and ninjas. And I'll start enjoying the "Talk Like Osama Day"

Emotionalist garbage.

Ninjas man, Ninjas. Gotta love wearing all black man ;)

Wow, yes, pirates were really democrats, even if they founded no nation, and hardly commanded or ruled over any population, more than the crew of their ships, that hardly could be defined as a "Civic society", or more than a loose military troop.

And...YOUR love for pirates is emotional garbage, or a twisted desire to be, ahem, "elite".

Ninjas man, Ninjas. Gotta love wearing all black man;)

Soooo Gothic...:)


...I tried to tell you people.

Meh, you'll levy your tribute just like all the others when the Vikings come to your village!

What about Vikings as the version of Pirates several centuries earlier?;)

Chris the Ninja Pirate....

ninja

Ninjas pwn, because Japan pwns, simple as that.

Ninjas, because they can ambush people pretty good and they know really nice kung fu.

No they don't. Ninjas are japanese, and know Ninjutsu, while kung fu is chinese and is learned at Shaolin Temples.

No they don't. Ninjas are japanese, and know Ninjutsu, while kung fu is chinese and is learned at Shaolin Temples.
Yeah, I hate when people think that China is the same thing as Japan is the same thing as Korea, etc. They are totally different.

An easy question, indeed! Pirates! Nobody with a brain even has to think about that one! :p

BEST NINJA STORY EVER TOLD (http://www2.thewalrus.ca/xn/video?v=superninja.asx)

NinjA! :p

That was just playing, I doubt you actually sailed in a ship. Like I said, there are no real pirates left.

Anyway, have you trained in ninjitsu? Me too. :)

theres an asspound of pirates off the coast of africa. and also southeast asia.

pirates with rpgs and machine guns... but pirates

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Ninjas. Always ninjas.

Pirates cause they got treasure.... yarrrrr!

uum...hmmm... Pirates I guess but Vikings would beat them both in a handicap, tag-team match! :p

uum...hmmm... Pirates I guess but Vikings would beat them both in a handicap, tag-team match! :p

exactly my original point

jar

Vikings suck. Ninjas pwn. Deal with it.

exactly my original point

jar

Shiver me timbers!

Vikings suck. Ninjas pwn. Deal with it.

ninjas wear black for its slimming properties.

they are totally metro.

Ninjas are just a bunch of pussies who are too afraid to fight you one on one.

Pirates are so awsome that we don't even ened to be SOBER to beat your ass one on one.

Plus Rum is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than Sake.
http://www.maj.com/gallery/zekk55/Weapons/1177556954_l.jpg
~A pirate who's dating a ninja.

ninjas wear black for its slimming properties.

they are totally metro.

OMG! Help ME!!! I can't stop laughing!!! :D :p :D

What about Vikings as the version of Pirates several centuries earlier?;)

Gah...Pirates never took territory or fielded armies like the Vikings did.

Besides, Pirates don't have Valhalla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla). :)

Ninjas have stealth pirates just move in making all aware of their presence. ;)

NINJA!

Well, I'd vote myrth because he is the Ninja Viking Pirate from hell. Who has laser eyes, chainsaw arms, D-cups, and a darn good whiskey. But you spelled it wrong.

I won't get inside this topic again. Pirates were monsters. I am really surprised to see the kind of crap that people turn from under the table in this silly "Ninjas vs. Pirates" debate.

"Pirates formed democracies", of course, like the movie, you are piece of anglo saxon that do not know anything about what the caribbean is, or was, for that matter.

"Pirates also were pretty democratic, especially for their time", as above, you have no idea about what are you talking about. Ask the victims of their pillages if they were democratic.

And they shouldn't have a Holiday, as you stated. Having a pirate holiday, for us in the caribbean, is an insult, almost as insulting as if we state a "Bomb like a Macho Muhaidin" day.

I'll dress my little kids as Osama Rightful Fighters, because they pwn both Pirates and ninjas. And I'll start enjoying the "Talk Like Osama Day"

Pirates were a sort of democratic society - compared to how the Royal Navy recruited sailors - ... as long as we call the US a democracy. Ask Iraqis how much the US are democratic! :D

I have never in my life seen a real pirate, I doubt they exist anymore. Nobody at sea these days talks and dresses like a pirate and carries around a musket and sword, with a parrot perched upon his shoulder. However, there are still ninjas around who dress as such, and train with the traditional weapons and master the skills of stealth.

I'll tell you what happened to the pirates. The ninjas killed them all. :)

Nope. Now the pirates are called CEOs! And they have bodyguards carrying muskets (or pistols if you like talking "modern") and have parrot-like secretaries perched upon their helicopters!:D

pirates.

but combining the two would kick ass.

some of the most formiddible pirates ruled the seas of south east asia.
in the early 1800's this area hosted about 40,000 pirates, led, for the most part, by a captain known as Mrs. Cheng {a former prostitute from canton}.

even though she was chinese and not a ninja, it seems as close as the two have actually gotten. plus it's f**king bad ass.

I won't get inside this topic again. Pirates were monsters. I am really surprised to see the kind of crap that people turn from under the table in this silly "Ninjas vs. Pirates" debate.

"Pirates formed democracies", of course, like the movie, you are piece of anglo saxon that do not know anything about what the caribbean is, or was, for that matter.

"Pirates also were pretty democratic, especially for their time", as above, you have no idea about what are you talking about. Ask the victims of their pillages if they were democratic.

And they shouldn't have a Holiday, as you stated. Having a pirate holiday, for us in the caribbean, is an insult, almost as insulting as if we state a "Bomb like a Macho Muhaidin" day.

I'll dress my little kids as Osama Rightful Fighters, because they pwn both Pirates and ninjas. And I'll start enjoying the "Talk Like Osama Day"

well, if you want to get anal about things...


some of the most noted people from the late 17th century were pirates. sir francis drake, henry morgan {yes, the booze guy}, cortes. and piracy had EVERYTHING to do with politics and making the rich richer. a lot of pirates were encouraged, rewarded and pardoned by their kings and queens, because they made money for their countries. also, latin america and northern america were founded and raped for the political pursuit of gold.

and may i further note that ninjas, samurai and other japanese merchants of war were beyond brutal on many occasions. they came up with the most efficient tortures and punishments.

how many forms of entertainment are based on violence? it's interesting. it's entertaining. humans have and will continue to be violent, cruel and generally derranged. and no one event or group the the worst. there's always something worse. get over it.

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p.s. pirates were probably the LESS brutal out of the two. they aimed to steal. ninjas, by definition were assasins.
does anyone else watch the god damned history channel?

Ninjas rule. Pirates aren't better, I know Johnny Depp was hot :P but really, pirates don't have as much style as ninjas. Pirates had cannons and swords but they are so ... hacky.
Ninja kills were mostly nice, clean jobs. A ninja actually hid inside a mattress and killed someone while they lay down in their bed.
I think that is way cooler than bang! and swordfights.
I don't like the new pirates with machine guns and speedboats either. I don't think that there are still ninjas, so I am free to romanticise them. :D

does anyone else watch the god damned history channel?Don't have the history channel.