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I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.

I don't smoke it, I wouldn't advocate smoking it, I would advise against smoking it, but I also find it absolutely ludicrous that it's illegal.

All drugs should be legalized. If people want to rot their minds, let them.

Abso-freaking-lutely (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm)
The active ingredient in marijuana may stall decline from Alzheimer's disease, research suggests.

Scientists showed a synthetic version of the compound may reduce inflammation associated with Alzheimer's and thus help to prevent mental decline.

Abso-freaking-lutely (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm)

Seconded.

Abso-freaking-lutely (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm)

Come on, we all know I'm not going to live long enough to have to worry about Alzheimers, with the way I'm going, my liver will be in tatters by the time I'm thirty.

Come on, we all know I'm not going to live long enough to have to worry about Alzheimers, with the way I'm going, my liver will be in tatters by the time I'm thirty.

Was it George Jones who sang "If I'd have known I was gonna live this long, I would have taken better care of myself?";)

I hopoe I live a long time and its nice to know weed will help.lol

People can fuck with their own lives if they want. :p I say who cares, since we won't be able to end drugs without the consent of the individual, and we'll never be able to get that from everyone...

I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.

We're working to legalize it in Colorado. Of course, The MAN--the Federal Government--will probably stomp on us again like they did when Denver legalized it. I have never used the term The Man, but this time, I am, because pot is, quite simply, the safest drug you could smoke, has some medical benefits, and is a lot safer than tobacco.

Let's just say I would cry out of overwhelming joy the when/if they make cannabis legal. I use it on a fairly regular basis, so it means something when I say there will be a few draw backs. 1) Stoner culture will be exploited by corporations, let me assure you, weed leaves will be on EVERYTHING in Wal-Mart 2) Marijuana will probably be fused with the tobacco plant (if that's possible) so it produces nicotine and gets people hooked, and 3) there'll be even MORE anti-pot commercials on the networks.

Come on, we all know I'm not going to live long enough to have to worry about Alzheimers, with the way I'm going, my liver will be in tatters by the time I'm thirty.

I've read THC is the most effective drug known for clearing the plaques that cause Alzheimers. Although you'll have no memory anyways by the time you're 40 anyways from pot. :D

Pot I think will be legalized in the next decade of this year. It is on many ballots and it looks like pot will win in most if not all of them.

I've read THC is the most effective drug known for clearing the plaques that cause Alzheimers. Although you'll have no memory anyways by the time you're 40 anyways from pot. :D

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I'm afraid you are mistaken. Dee--a coworker at Wendy's--is approximately 47 years old, and is in excellent health. She has the best memory of anyone I have ever met. And she has smoked marijuana every day since she was fifteen.

Pot I think will be legalized in the next decade of this year. It is on many ballots and it looks like pot will win in most if not all of them.

The tragedy of the thing is (and it is a tragedy for someone like me) that in the states where it's decriminalised, or (hopefully) legalised the feds crack down time ten. In my senior year of high school, this DEA agent came in an talked to us about drugs. He was soooo Miami Vice, but that's besides the point. Basically what I picked up is that basic point that no matter how much people want to get high, the feds are there to ruin it. A sort of cock block if you will.

Absolutely.

Never smoked it, never wanted to, but people should be permitted to do what they want in these respects.

Cannabis makes dumb. But since those using it are already dumb no-one gets hurt.

THANKS to everyone who has posted in this thread so far especially the ones who dont smoke or approve of smoking it takes a strong person to stand op for another persons rights when it has no direct effect on them personally :)


when i saw the thread title i thought
"oh no :( now im going to be up all nite arguing on the internet again"

but im soooo glad that you all on my side on this one :)

there is a proposal in the U.N. list right now please everyone have your delegate approve it.

as for the real world im lucky i live in california and have my doctors recommendation to make me legal also i have 4 stores in my town to choose from :)


also some of the nations in my region (the green weed region) are working on a new hemp resolution so keep your eyes out for it

I want to make a cannibis law but no one seems to go for it. We need people that are for it to vote for it in the UN.

If you want to smoke it, go ahead, but don't expect the state to cover your medical bills when your health goes downhill. The thing is, people often read the benefits, but frequently overlook the negatives, of which in this case, there are many. I know people who supported legalization, and continued to smoke it anyway. They ruined their lives in doing so, and now campaign to young people like themselves who ignored the downsides. In the short-term, smoking cannabis may have more positives than negatives, but over time the real effects will become apparant.

If you want to smoke it, go ahead, but don't expect the state to cover your medical bills when your health goes downhill. The thing is, people often read the benefits, but frequently overlook the negatives, of which in this case, there are many. I know people who supported legalization, and continued to smoke it anyway. They ruined their lives in doing so, and now campaign to young people like themselves who ignored the downsides. In the short-term, smoking cannabis may have more positives than negatives, but over time the real effects will become apparant.
WTF?

What medical problems do people who smoke pot have besides the same as the rest of us?
I know plenty of professional people that smoke daily, they hold down steady jobs and probably have fewer health problems than most of us. If you have credible proof that pot smokers have more medical problems than the rest of us, please provide a link.

Legalisation reason A.
For liberty.

Reason B.
For revenue (Government taxation on a Government owned business.)

Reason C.
With taxation, people will be put off marijuana just like smoking.

Reason D.
Can age limit.

Reason E.
I myself am a marijuana lover.

Reason F.
Medically helps with mental illness.




Reasons Against Legalisation from the conservative right.

Reason A. We never dun it when we was kids.

Reason B. It gives black men money (Think about it... if cigarettes were a black mans company how illegal would they be already? im not racist, im pointing out racism. any flames will be subsequently pissed on.)

Reason C. It rots yer brain.

Reason D. It reduces productivity

Hell no. We should be criminalising those drugs that are still legal, not relaxing controls on those that aren't.

Hell no. We should be criminalising those drugs that are still legal, not relaxing controls on those that aren't.

What - like aspirin?

What - like aspirin?
Well, asprin is dangerous in its own way and probably would never have been released if it was discovered today - any Doctor will tell you that - but I was referring to drugs in the colloquial sense.

People should have the right to put anything they want in their bodies. Inform them of any deletarious effects and let them make their own decision. At that point they should be allowed to mainline kerosene if they want.

At that point they should be allowed to mainline kerosene if they want.

As incredible as it sounds, I actually saw people from my own high school shooting up lighter fluid late one summer night. They're dead now - they didn't die that night, but their hobbies got the better of them eventually.

As incredible as it sounds, I actually saw people from my own high school shooting up lighter fluid late one summer night. They're dead now - they didn't die that night, but their hobbies got the better of them eventually.That's insane. Can we see Darwin's theories at work here?

Cannabis should remain illegal. If you do legalize Marijuana, then pass a law that potheads get no Mental Health care. Since such a law would probably be considered unconstitutional, then keep it illegal.

That said, Nicotine & Alcohol in excess of 15% should ideally be illegal too, or we should pass laws that deny Medical care from smokers and heavy drinkers. But we don't live in an ideal world, so we make ilegal what we can.

Pot smokers don't have any more mental illness than the general population. Where do you get your information, watching "Reefer Madness?"

All drugs should be legalized. If people want to rot their minds, let them.

seconded. gimme some excellent brain-rot, now.

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I'm afraid you are mistaken. Dee--a coworker at Wendy's--is approximately 47 years old, and is in excellent health. She has the best memory of anyone I have ever met. And she has smoked marijuana every day since she was fifteen.

I was merely kidding. :p

I quit smoking it mainly because I didn't want to chance a surprise drug test at my job.

I feel it should be legalized but controlled. It does more good than harm. More people die each year to tobacco and alcohol-related deaths. People typically don't fight when together. It's more peaceful. When I used to smoke I would never smoke before my job. I waited until I was on my time. What I do on my time should be my business.

About these damn drug tests, it's said that pot stays in your system for about 30 days (debateable) but the harder drugs such as cocaine is only in your system about 3 days.

Bottom Line: Pot should be legal as long as it's used in a responsible way. :D

Yes...

*looks stoned*

Well I dont like the idea of a bunch of dumbass Cheech and Chong's running around everywhere, but what's worse than that is all the money that organized crime makes off the stuff.

If pot became legal, it would cripple organized crime in a way that has never been accomplished by law enforcement agencies.

And if only one (1) doctor, says he needs pot to cure a paitent (or to help relieve symptoms of something), then an absolute YES for legal, medical pot!

I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.

The war on drugs, like Prohibition, gun control or the Jim Crow laws, are a direct assault on Constitutional rights.

If pot became legal, it would cripple organized crime in a way that has never been accomplished by law enforcement agencies.

No it wouldn't.

And even tho i'm from UK - i'd much rather a pot-head for president than a coke-alc-head.. 'Maybe' then there'd be a tad more compassion in the white-house.

and: it's not possible to create a worthwhile 'legal' monopoly on weed, without 1984 style enforcement :P soon as its legal for big business - every old woman has it in her back yard. it's an 'erb man.

i stopped smokin it 6 months ago cos i was bored of the paranoia and sluggish thought - but i still have no doubt that it's an awesome drug, esp compared to alcohol, which only serves to keep people stupid and going out every weekend instead of stayin home reading.

I wouldn't partake, and wouldn't advocate the partaking, but I think it's idiotic that it's illegal... so yeah, make it legal.

I do smoke it every now and then, but I do not believe that it should become legal to sell it. For the simple reason that I do not trust the corporate structure to sell it, 'hmm,' they'll think, 'this cannabis stuff sells pretty good, but I think it'd sell better if we made it clinically addictive!'

And, although this may seem like a joke argument, it actually helps the economy of our most deprived areas. There are some places where the only reasonable career path for young people is marijuana dealership, if we legalise the sale, they will be priced out of the market and deprived of a vital lifeline. They would then have no choice but to specialise on the dealership of more dangerous drugs, or just flat-out resort to crime.

No it wouldn't


It wouldn't? It's not sold at church bingo (or is it :D) It's not sold at the grocery store. Marlboro isn't growing millions of acres of it. It's produced and sold by organized crime. You could go on a kill crazy rampage against organized crime and that wont do squat; or arrest them again and again and all that happens is a promotion for everyone in the family. But take away their money and they all suffer.

First I deal with cigarettes, car exhausts, pollution, and now MJ?! NO! Thats teh evil!!!!!11 :gundge:

Legalised and taxed, for sure.

Yes it should be legal because it was made illegal originally by the US government in attempt to piss off migrant Mexican workers during the 1930s, during prohibition.

Yes.... it was part of an earlier policy that embraced racism.

That is enough reason to make it legal. That and the doctors who reported to Congress during the hearings as to wheather or not Marijuana should be criminalized, spoke out against any move to make it illegal and has reported on far more benefits than side effects.

Congress ignored the reports.

Moderate smoking of weed is a good idea, it should be totally legal.

It's a victimless crime. Ergo, no basis for government intervention.

Moderate smoking of weed is a good idea, it should be totally legal.
I agree.

I smoke recreationally. I only smoke on my free time; I refuse to smoke if I have class or work, or I have to go out somewhere that isn't a party.

Plus, marijuana is not physically addictive, but, in some extreme cases can be psychologically addicted because of the active THC element that causes the elated high. Further, unlike with cigarettes, there isn't a need to smoke another immediately because you can't get any higher and you likely don't feel the need to smoke more.

Yes, it should be legalized.

Some previous posts are showing some flawed thinking though.

On the subject of positive versus negative health effects, like any other drug it has both. Most notable negative:

Decreases short-term memory
Respiratory problems
While it does not cause mental problems, it exacerbates certain disorders.

http://www.weedguru.com/agamed.php
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_basics.shtml

On the subject of there being less problems associated to it then drinking alcohol, as it is illegal and the general public does not have easy access to it, it is natural to think this. But it does affect a persons judgement, reaction time, and cognitive ability, thus, if it were legal I am sure that in the long haul you would see just as many accidents and such related to the use of Ol' Mary Jane.

After all this negative discussion of it, let me reiterate, I still feel it should be legal. I don't like my rights being trampled on, especially for the purpose of making a buck.

For all the reasons the government gives for keeping it illegal it all comes down to one thing... Money, "The war on drugs" is big business, make no mistake about that. It probably, at this point generates more government revenue then legalizing it and taxing it ever could. Nevermind that it could create a new crop option for our failing farming communities. Think of all those poor DEA agent suddenly out of a job! Oh, the government cutbacks from legalization would be murder. No one wants to loose thier jobs or the nice fat raises that come attached to any bills sent through Congress to increase spending for the drug war, or any other war for that matter.

It should be my right to do to my body as I want, provided I am hurting no one else...:D

It should be legalised so it can be properly regulated.

Bottom Line: Pot should be legal as long as it's used in a responsible way. :D

Pretty much. It's like alcohol, and would be treated as such by the law. Age restrictions, restrictions on driving under the influence etc, and no doubt if it were legalsied it could be taxed to fuck so if there were an increase in health problems (and i'm neither saying categorically there would be or ruling them out) the NHS would ahve more funding to deal with it. Frankly, the NHS coudl do with more funding in any case.

I say legalize it, tax it and treat it just like alcohol.

Without a doubt it should be just as legal as BEER .

It wouldn't? It's not sold at church bingo (or is it :D) It's not sold at the grocery store. Marlboro isn't growing millions of acres of it. It's produced and sold by organized crime. You could go on a kill crazy rampage against organized crime and that wont do squat; or arrest them again and again and all that happens is a promotion for everyone in the family. But take away their money and they all suffer.

Well, the growth and production is organised, and it is criminal, so technically it is organised crime. But that term is misleading as it seems to be implying that shady criminal masterminds are pulling the strings and that every pot dealer is also involved in extortion, theft and murder... which is not true at all.

Only if it's legal to shoot anyone stoned out of their minds.

Of course it should be legalised. all drugs should be legalised, though I dont really consider weed a "drug", more like special cigarettes.

It should be legalized because the money will go to corporations paying fair wages to the manufactures, instead of money to drug lords.

I'm totally for legalizing it like I have stated in my earlier posts.

Although I do have a question to everyone that says tax it. How do you tax something that anyone can grow? It doesn't take much to grow a plant.

Yes, be legal to be grown by an individual for personal use.

Of course it should be legalized. Police have better things to do with their time then deal with arresting people for having this drug. I am even leaning to legalizing just about all drugs, let people kill themselves if they want, they do that with tobacco and alcohol, why not with the currently illegal drugs? They simply have to pay the full consequences if they hurt anyone or damage anything while under the influence. Not use it as an excuse.

lol

I don't understand how any plant can be illegal. It is the same as saying that nature is illegal. If some plants that grow in nature are illegal, than
nature should be brought before court to defend herself. Which, I believe you would agree - is completely absurd. And I dont even smoke the stuff. :)

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I'm totally for legalizing it like I have stated in my earlier posts.

Although I do have a question to everyone that says tax it. How do you tax something that anyone can grow? It doesn't take much to grow a plant.

you tax the sale of it.

just like you dont get taxed on shoes if you make your own, but you do if you buy them

why couldn't people just grow it theirselves? I mean it doesn't take a expert.

I guess buying it if you don't want to go throw the trouble of growing.

if you did you wouldnt be taxed.

just like anything else.

I don't smoke it, I wouldn't advocate smoking it, I would advise against smoking it, but I also find it absolutely ludicrous that it's illegal.

What he said.

I'm totally for legalizing it like I have stated in my earlier posts.

Although I do have a question to everyone that says tax it. How do you tax something that anyone can grow? It doesn't take much to grow a plant.If it'a grown for individual use, there's no tax. If it's grown commercially, it's subject to tax and whatever regulation is normal for other produce.

I don't smoke it, I wouldn't advocate smoking it, I would advise against smoking it, but I also find it absolutely ludicrous that it's illegal.

And they say I am retarded!!

Only if it's legal to shoot anyone stoned out of their minds.
Who gets to judge whether someone is that stoned? The stoner or the shooter?

lol

Only if it's legal to shoot anyone stoned out of their minds.

The logic behind this statement please?

If alcohol's legal, then hash should be too.

Illegal so that people don't do it in public.

That wasn't the reason why it was made illegal in the US.

Bah!

The logic behind this statement please?

I've been nearly killed by enough drunk drivers, and that mess is legal. Imagine what carnage will occur when everyone is stoned!

Keep it illegal. I think there's ample proof via DUI/DWI arrests and deaths via drunk driver that humans can't handle alcohol, much less harder stuff.

ya havent really smoked pot have ya?

harder stuff?

as a serious binge drinker i can tell you id rather have a pothead behind the wheel

And they say I am retarded!!



???? I haven't smoked pot in 5 years.. but I know it is ridiculous for it to be illegal, for way more reasons than just to smoke/eat/drink etc. But ...
our greedy crooked ass government is the main reason it is illegal here. Because they know its just too easy for people to grow on their own.. and they wouldn't get a fucking cut like they do with the illegal trafficking of it. You think all the dope that gets into this country is outside the governments realm of view? If they weren't getting their pockets lined.. you'd see a mad reduction in dope in this country.. cocaine and heroine especially.

ya havent really smoked pot have ya?

harder stuff?

as a serious binge drinker i can tell you id rather have a pothead behind the wheel


totally agree.

I've been nearly killed by enough drunk drivers, and that mess is legal. Imagine what carnage will occur when everyone is stoned!

Keep it illegal. I think there's ample proof via DUI/DWI arrests and deaths via drunk driver that humans can't handle alcohol, much less harder stuff.

Damn, how many times does this strawman need to be knocked down and set on fire?

I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.

I say yes. I don't do weed, but I think we're wasting valuable resources fighting something that really doesn't harm anybody but the user...I mean, alcohol is worse, yet it is very much legal to use!

I can't even talk about this subject.. It's so retarded. Pisses me off.

I can't even talk about this subject.. It's so retarded. Pisses me off.

I agree.
The one good thing about alcohal is you can't get second hand drunk.

The thing I love about pot is that you can get a buzz or the high lasts longer if your in a car with the windows up or a closed room.

Alchol makes you stupid, pot makes you relax and think. Thing is you forget about what you have thought about. While smoking I know I forget things but it stops when the high is gone.

I agree.

I smoke recreationally. I only smoke on my free time; I refuse to smoke if I have class or work, or I have to go out somewhere that isn't a party.

Plus, marijuana is not physically addictive, but, in some extreme cases can be psychologically addicted because of the active THC element that causes the elated high. Further, unlike with cigarettes, there isn't a need to smoke another immediately because you can't get any higher and you likely don't feel the need to smoke more.

What? Where did you hear that from? Believe me, smoking another joint will get you higher! I learned this the...well I don't want to say hard way because it wasn't hard at all and I very much enjoyed it...at a party the other night. I was as high as the drunk people were drunk. Only I had control of my motor skills, and it wore off in a couple of hours. Man that was a good night now that I think about it....:p

Your exactly right.

Kanabia should totally be legal, he rocks.

okay....

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Anyone got anything else to say?

Why stop at pot? I mean if the problem is that prisons and courts are stretched to breaking point trying to enforce a law which is essentially about personal choice then hey, let's go the whole hog... legalise them all, charge a reasonable amount of duty on them and restrict the buying age to above a legal minimum - voting age perhaps.. we can work out the details later.

This way we can free the police and courts to deal with crimes that piss off ordinary citizens. We remove a large source of funding for organised crime and (apparently) terrorists. We allow 3rd world countries to grow crops that they actually make some money on. We increase government revenues that can be used to tackle the wave of drug related problems. And we can educate people about all drugs in a fair and open way and create debate.

Sure some will always fuck-up but at least they won't be marginalised and criminalised when they do but receive full and open support.

Also alcohol is legal (in this country at least) but most companies take a fairly dim view of being drunk at work and I am sure the same attitude can be enforced for being stoned, tripping and mongin out.

Just an idea... ;)

Just pot for now.

I find the idea of the government legislating against any substance absurd. Especially when that thing is a plant that anyone can grow. While I think all drugs should be legal, I dont think that cannabis should be categorised with the others. In terms of danger and addiction, it is more like coffee or Coca Cola, and in terms of effects it is more like beer and cigarettes. Not to mention the other uses of the stuff, like making clothes and paper and anything else you might want to make.

Along with protected consensual sex, Cannabis is one of the purest most wonderful things in the world.

Amen Brother!!!!

It is sorta legal here...neighbors have a few plants in their garden, uncle has one in his garden..but I don´t smoke it, it stinks. As does any other stuf that needs to be smoked. :p

If you only legalise pot you could argue you simply take people up the abuse trail. What do the rebeliously minded do now? Coke? Schmackheads anyone? Nah I think not. Just legalise em all...

Paxomenia;11821893']If you only legalise pot you could argue you simply take people up the abuse trail. What do the rebeliously minded do now? Coke? Schmackheads anyone? Nah I think not. Just legalise em all...

Why do you hate freedom? ;) :D

because freedom is the biggest yoke of all, it binds men (and women) to an ideal that can not be achieve by all, all the time :)

you can get high with money.i declare all casinos other the world, falacious
and perverse....

I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.

And for what seems like the millionth and first time, yes, :drug: prohibition was and is primarily based on ignorant racism. Racism is wrong. Thus the basic premise of drug prohibition is wrong. Unless you still belive that: opiates lead to chinks seducing our good white ladies, cocaine creates fiendish hard to kioll niggers, and cannabis creates dirty spics with knives; these prohibitions are based on specious grounds and ought to be repealed. (Note: one need only look at the current incarciration rates to see that this policy continues...)

I have been a user of drugs in my past and I have came to a conclusion that all drugs should be legalized in some ways. I have a Proposal written out on Recreational Drug Use but don't have any Endorsements. If I could get two of you to endorse me I promise that both Drug Promoters and those of you who believe it should be illegal because of the uneducated minds on properly legalizing the drug won't regret it once the proposal goes in front of the UN Delegates to vote on. Please band together with me on this and give me a change to better our nations on the legalization of drugs.

Thank You,
The United States of Flores Mafia

My ideal policy is simple and the same as my ideal alcohol policy.

Legalize it.
Tax it moderately, use the money to subsidize health care.
Make DUI manslaughter a very serious crime (significant jail time).
Take away licenses for victimless DUI. Permanantly.

My ideal policy is simple and the same as my ideal alcohol policy.

Legalize it.
Tax it moderately, use the money to subsidize health care.
Make DUI manslaughter a very serious crime (significant jail time).
Take away licenses for victimless DUI. Permanantly.

Actually, I favor 1st degree murder for DUI and other deaths directly related to intoxication.

Cannabis is the main threat to a peaceful society. It causes hate and violence to spiral out of control. It makes people decide to do bad things.

It is evil and addictive, I refuse to accept it as anything other than one of the worst drugs around.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MARIJUANA_INITIATIVE?SITE=SCCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-10-17-14-46-36

I find the idea of the government legislating against any substance absurd. Especially when that thing is a plant that anyone can grow. While I think all drugs should be legal, I dont think that cannabis should be categorised with the others. In terms of danger and addiction, it is more like coffee or Coca Cola, and in terms of effects it is more like beer and cigarettes. Not to mention the other uses of the stuff, like making clothes and paper and anything else you might want to make.

Along with protected consensual sex, Cannabis is one of the purest most wonderful things in the world.

I would merely like to take issues with the bolded part (bolding mine), in that it has been shown that caffeine is in fact much more addictive than Cannabis, and, I believe, more harmful. If I happen to find any links to studies, i will be sure to post them. And I agree with your last statement. All thoughI contend that all psychedelics rank much, much higher than cannabis on a "beauty" scale.

Legalize marijuana!

I would merely like to take issues with the bolded part (bolding mine), in that it has been shown that caffeine is in fact much more addictive than Cannabis, and, I believe, more harmful.

I'm divided on the issue. Caffeine is much more widespread and has far more addicts. But smoking cannabis does put smoke into your lungs, which increases risk of lung cancer and related. Yet on the other hand, caffeine, as a stimulant, is more or less like mini-cocaine. I haven't seen too many studies (there isn't, amazingly enough, an Anti-Caffeine lobby consisting of moralizing fundies, propaganda and tobacco corporations) on it, but I'd imagine that caffeine use increases risk of things like heart disease. I mean, it makes sense - anything that increases stress to the heart does that, and artificial stimulation every day certainly qualifies.

On one hand we have lung cancer, on the other, heart disease. The latter kills more people.

Cannabis is the main threat to a peaceful society. It causes hate and violence to spiral out of control. It makes people decide to do bad things.

It is evil and addictive, I refuse to accept it as anything other than one of the worst drugs around.

But if a doctor says he needs some for a paitent. shouldn't that be HIS decision and not the governments? A doctor can write a prescription for drugs that are far more powerful than pot. But some doctors say that ONLY pot works in certain situations.

But if a doctor says he needs some for a paitent. shouldn't that be HIS decision and not the governments? A doctor can write a prescription for drugs that are far more powerful than pot. But some doctors say that ONLY pot works in certain situations.

Take stem-cell research, it's one of those issues that is important on a federal level, so they take responcibility for dealing with the do's and don't factors.

A little history on pot (http://www.adrugwarcarol.com/index.html).

Pot should be legal because either people will use it resposibly and continue to be productive members of society or they'll abuse it and ruin their lives. If they do the latter then you need not pity them because they brought it on themselves, just like an alcoholic or a smoker.

Legalize marijuana!



I'm divided on the issue. Caffeine is much more widespread and has far more addicts. But smoking cannabis does put smoke into your lungs, which increases risk of lung cancer and related. Yet on the other hand, caffeine, as a stimulant, is more or less like mini-cocaine. I haven't seen too many studies (there isn't, amazingly enough, an Anti-Caffeine lobby consisting of moralizing fundies, propaganda and tobacco corporations) on it, but I'd imagine that caffeine use increases risk of things like heart disease. I mean, it makes sense - anything that increases stress to the heart does that, and artificial stimulation every day certainly qualifies.

On one hand we have lung cancer, on the other, heart disease. The latter kills more people.

I present this study (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_media7.shtml) as at least the begnnings of a general refutation of yor worries about lung cancer, although I agree that putting smoke of any type into one's lungs cannot be good. Also, to reduce the risks and dangers associated with smoking, one can smoke hashish (which has far less tar and other harmful chemicals than straight up buds), or eating, another popular method, which places your lungs in no danger.

I present this study (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_media7.shtml) as at least the begnnings of a general refutation of yor worries about lung cancer, although I agree that putting smoke of any type into one's lungs cannot be good. Also, to reduce the risks and dangers associated with smoking, one can smoke hashish (which has far less tar and other harmful chemicals than straight up buds), or eating, another popular method, which places your lungs in no danger.

Oh, I don't have worries about lung cancer. I think the risk is minimal. And frankly, since we allow tobacco smoking, it simply isn't rationally consistent to ban marijuana smoking on the basis of smoking being harmful.

What Daistalla said is true. The origins of the war on drugs, including marijuana, relied heavily on racist stereotypes, outright lies and propaganda - and continues to this day.

Yes, but just like smokes, booze, strip clubs..lol only for adults. Not minors.

Oh, I don't have worries about lung cancer. I think the risk is minimal. And frankly, since we allow tobacco smoking, it simply isn't rationally consistent to ban marijuana smoking on the basis of smoking being harmful.

What Daistalla said is true. The origins of the war on drugs, including marijuana, relied heavily on racist stereotypes, outright lies and propaganda - and continues to this day.

Yep. I agree with you on all points. And really, few things are better than walking down the street on a beautiful day, high as a kite. Especially if there are some sick clouds.

Take stem-cell research, it's one of those issues that is important on a federal level, so they take responcibility for dealing with the do's and don't factors.

Yea, but a pot plant dosn't require an aborted fetus to produce.

I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.

whoa... its been proven to have benifits? k i wont assume thats false or true, i just think i need proof of these benifits, and then i think its important to weigh the value of the benifits against the value of the loss that the chronic does. this may sound like i dont know, trust me i do. used to be a 98% average kid... poked smot and now i barely scratch sixty and blame it on opression. i dont know if this sounds really hypocritical, but i cant see the benifits of mary j, being anasthetic, out weighing the significant amount of brain damage done over a period of time, plus those who would be getting it would lose their strongest asset, their minds. steven hawking and mary j would provide a much less brilliant guy who doesnt have a theory for everything, instead he has a recipe for some kick ass brownies. not cool man, some people arent made for weed.

Yea, but a pot plant dosn't require an aborted fetus to produce.

neither does stem cell research idiot. lmao are you on acid? i'd find out about this crap before i made a difinitive choice on it. stem cells are only existant in the blastocyst stage, which is like a few weeks before any form of distinguishable embryo is made, and even longer for a fetus. so shut up dumbass.

Look, marijuana was legal along with cocaine. New York city's mayor even made a report on how marijuana is not addictive, yet he smoked a regular 15 grams a day. America has faced many difficulties during the legalizing of drugs. Unemployment was up, the economy was struggling, more crime. Even when marijauna was legal is still produced more crime. So don't act like it's all harmless pot and everything because it isn't. It brings you down to shit and makes you feel like gold.

So no, pot shouldn't and never will be legalized again.

neither does stem cell research idiot. lmao are you on acid? i'd find out about this crap before i made a difinitive choice on it. stem cells are only existant in the blastocyst stage, which is like a few weeks before any form of distinguishable embryo is made, and even longer for a fetus. so shut up dumbass.

Teminated pregnancies are one way to aquire stem cells. Or didn't you know that?

whoa... its been proven to have benifits? k i wont assume thats false or true, i just think i need proof of these benifits, and then i think its important to weigh the value of the benifits against the value of the loss that the chronic does. this may sound like i dont know, trust me i do. used to be a 98% average kid... poked smot and now i barely scratch sixty and blame it on opression. i dont know if this sounds really hypocritical, but i cant see the benifits of mary j, being anasthetic, out weighing the significant amount of brain damage done over a period of time, plus those who would be getting it would lose their strongest asset, their minds. steven hawking and mary j would provide a much less brilliant guy who doesnt have a theory for everything, instead he has a recipe for some kick ass brownies. not cool man, some people arent made for weed.

This on Marijuana myths (including brain damage). (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml)

And this for the benefits of medical marijuana. (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_medical_info2.shtml)

Yep. I agree with you on all points. And really, few things are better than walking down the street on a beautiful day, high as a kite. Especially if there are some sick clouds.

yea thats true, only tobacco doesnt impare your judgement, and it maybe be way more addictive, but it at least contributes to the economy, rather than forcing the government to spend countless dollars in preventing it. because of tobacco's influence on the economy its deep rooted itself so that getting rid of it would be so much harder than something that isnt a part of functional society. and yea the racist stereotypes is associated with the war on drugs, but marijuana cant be compared to that through assoication, becuase its role in the war on drugs is so insignificant in comparison. right now the greatest threat is methanphetamines, (spelt wrong whatever) and it doesnt make sense to attribute the lives of pot smokers to meth heads because meth heads are the cause of poverty, which marjiuana is contributing to lightly. the issue is that marjiuana does however severely affect a persons ability to retain information, and that in itself can deeply affect an economy, or keep it from progressing. legalizing it would allow a flood gate effect of constant users, and illegal weed just helps slow the flow of damage. its hard to accept that it impairs your judgement but it does. and yea tobbacco sucks hahahaha. not to say poking smot sucks, but the use of it on that level would destroy alot of lives.

Look, marijuana was legal along with cocaine. New York city's mayor even made a report on how marijuana is not addictive, yet he smoked a regular 15 grams a day. America has faced many difficulties during the legalizing of drugs. Unemployment was up, the economy was struggling, more crime. Even when marijauna was legal is still produced more crime. So don't act like it's all harmless pot and everything because it isn't. It brings you down to shit and makes you feel like gold.

So no, pot shouldn't and never will be legalized again.

So, because he mayor of New York smoked a large amount of marijuana on the daily, he was addicted? I don't see it...I can see how that can be pulled out, but it is not necessarily true. Also, I would say that many other issues were afflicting America during the times when Marijuana was legal, and just because marijuana was legal does not mean it was a cause of these problems. I'm gonna have to ask you for evidence there.

And can you show how marijuana caused crime when it was legal? Also, just because it was legal during the same time period cocaine was legal does not make it as bad as cocaine.

And could you elaborate as to how it "brings you down to shit?"

This on Marijuana myths (including brain damage). (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml)

And this for the benefits of medical marijuana. (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_medical_info2.shtml)

sweet... thats a releif and a half. but that website does seem a bit sketchy. it doesnt really allow for a direct route to convict it as fact. so i cant really say i trsut it entirely, but it does releive alot of concerns i had. why is it though, that the majority of my closest friends who all smoke marijuana have extremely low iq's act very slowly constnatly, barely manage a job, and whose home lives suck primarily becuase of them? i cant beleive that marijuana does nothing to people, becuase i know and i've seen waht its done to great people. i live in two seperate social crowds and the other never smoked marijuana, and we all used to hang out as kids, so why is it that the one group is "normal" while me and my closest friends lack... inhibitions.

yea thats true, only tobacco doesnt impare your judgement, and it maybe be way more addictive, but it at least contributes to the economy, rather than forcing the government to spend countless dollars in preventing it. because of tobacco's influence on the economy its deep rooted itself so that getting rid of it would be so much harder than something that isnt a part of functional society. and yea the racist stereotypes is associated with the war on drugs, but marijuana cant be compared to that through assoication, becuase its role in the war on drugs is so insignificant in comparison. right now the greatest threat is methanphetamines, (spelt wrong whatever) and it doesnt make sense to attribute the lives of pot smokers to meth heads because meth heads are the cause of poverty, which marjiuana is contributing to lightly. the issue is that marjiuana does however severely affect a persons ability to retain information, and that in itself can deeply affect an economy, or keep it from progressing. legalizing it would allow a flood gate effect of constant users, and illegal weed just helps slow the flow of damage. its hard to accept that it impairs your judgement but it does. and yea tobbacco sucks hahahaha. not to say poking smot sucks, but the use of it on that level would destroy alot of lives.



Using marijuana does indeed imapir one's judgement and short-term memory. However, these effects fade with the other effcts of the drug. And hey, alcohol is/can be much the same. Also, if one does not retain information at, say, one's workplace, one suddenly finds oneself unemployed. So, if you cannot control yourself, you lose out, same as any other drug. Also, I am not saying that there should be no penalties for a lack of judgement while under the influence of marijuana. DUIs and vehicular manslaughter due too marijuana, for example, should be as harshly penalised as they are if one is drunk, or whatever.

And the legalisation (and taxation) of marijuana really would help us out economically. Know about it.

sweet... thats a releif and a half. but that website does seem a bit sketchy. it doesnt really allow for a direct route to convict it as fact. so i cant really say i trsut it entirely, but it does releive alot of concerns i had. why is it though, that the majority of my closest friends who all smoke marijuana have extremely low iq's act very slowly constnatly, barely manage a job, and whose home lives suck primarily becuase of them? i cant beleive that marijuana does nothing to people, becuase i know and i've seen waht its done to great people. i live in two seperate social crowds and the other never smoked marijuana, and we all used to hang out as kids, so why is it that the one group is "normal" while me and my closest friends lack... inhibitions.

Yeah, about your friends who have changed quite a bit "due to marijuana"... Do they do any other drugs? Are they alcoholics? How were they raised? All these questions, and more, are really important in analysing why a person might be like he or she is. And is there necessarily anything wrong with lacking inhibitions? To an extent, at least, I believe that a lack of inhibitions is a good thing, although I am unsure of what you meant precisely when you used that term...

I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.

Not only should cannibas be legalized... every drug should be. The government has no right at all to tell people what to do with their own bodies. Prostitution is in the same boat.

I'm against the legalization of mariuahna.

It can cause depressions, lethargie, and in some cases even shizophreny.

And I know something intressting from a former classmate who smokes mariuahana regulary. Once he smoked some with a few friends, and suddenly a girl get an epileptic seizure, I don't know if the girl was an epileptic before or not. If she was an epileptic before, perhaps she didn't recognize that she needed medication while she was stoned, or the mariuahna neutralized her medication. If not - then mariuahna is even more dangerous.

And if THC can help against Alzheimer, it should be researched, so that it's able to create drugs without these severe side effects.

We already have enough problems with lung cancer and alcoholics - we don't need more problems with mariuahna.

So, because he mayor of New York smoked a large amount of marijuana on the daily, he was addicted? I don't see it...I can see how that can be pulled out, but it is not necessarily true. Also, I would say that many other issues were afflicting America during the times when Marijuana was legal, and just because marijuana was legal does not mean it was a cause of these problems. I'm gonna have to ask you for evidence there.

And can you show how marijuana caused crime when it was legal? Also, just because it was legal during the same time period cocaine was legal does not make it as bad as cocaine.

And could you elaborate as to how it "brings you down to shit?"

lmao man thats awesome!!! sorry... just... really really good response. yea, k so it does contribute to a lack of effort, and i can easily say that if you take most people who smoke marijuana, and another people who dont, you can easily see the response time difference, and the effectiveness of their response. yea, alright so the mayor did smoke alot of chronic, dont mean he's addicted, does mean his choice in studies (which, if you didnt know, start with a theory and can only end with a positive result, otherwise its not published) anyways he obviously was biast. thats the guys point. and history is a shitty example to use, the best offense is to ask was "if you look at those you know who are heavily into marijuana, how many of them put the effort into life that some of the other clear headed people put in. therse a clear cut difference isnt there?" and even if the response is no, you know that hte only person one cant lie to is themselves. the real question is, if it was legal, would it really make a difference on your life? most people drink before their eighteen, go all out, and once their eighteen they celebrate, and then what? they stop. now its lost its novelty.

Liberty EKB;11824629']Not only should cannibas be legalized... every drug should be. The government has no right at all to tell people what to do with their own bodies. Prostitution is in the same boat.

i like how scary you are. funny thing about anarchists, they want the freedoom to kill another person, but they always seem to want someone to protect them when that persons brother comes to get em'

even funnier, the only freedom that one is born with is at birth, you have the right to attempt to progress. the one thing that takes that freedom away, is anothers, its called a paradox, this is why you make friends, with friends you cna protect eachother, and still remain free. hence government, but how do you know your free? now comes democracy. anarchy is an ideal that needs to be counter argued in order to sustain a strong fight. i doubt anyone can do that effectively for either side of the argument. but all drugs being legal, even if you think it doesnt effect you, it will eventually and then you'd look back and regret your actions.
"they legalzed pot,
i smoked pot, said nothing to stop them,

they legalized crack,
i sold crack, i said nothing to stop them,

theyt legalized cocain,
i did cocain, i did nothing to stop them,

then they legalized meth,
and my neighbor came to my door, and nothing was to stop him."

Yeah, about your friends who have changed quite a bit "due to marijuana"... Do they do any other drugs? Are they alcoholics? How were they raised? All these questions, and more, are really important in analysing why a person might be like he or she is. And is there necessarily anything wrong with lacking inhibitions? To an extent, at least, I believe that a lack of inhibitions is a good thing, although I am unsure of what you meant precisely when you used that term...

the will to do anything. and yea, they were raised by families almost the exact same as the others, the only difference was they were in the valley, and in the valley there are a couple drug dealers. we all went tot he same school, and swim lessons and everything. its based on the environmental influences, inhibitions being non existant result in the lack of money flow. yea, i hate to say it, but its blatantly apparent in my friends lives what makes them different, and its directly coonnected to the use of marijuana. and no none of them use anything else, becuase we were all raised as best as we could be, and none of us beleive in anything worse. despite all my anti marijuana talk, i ddont htink its so bad, its just dangerous to turn into a mainstream product that can be distributed on such a large scale.

The buzz/high you get from pot does not last as long alchol nor is it addictive. Now if your againest both and think they should both be illegal, then it has been proven it can stave off Alzhimers, help glacoma patients, cancer patients with pain, and also people who have AIDS. Now it is true you do get short-memory loss but that is while high. Just to mention a average persons high lasts a little longer then a half-hour and the buzz lasts to about 3.5 hours. Not as long alchol. Plus while your doing this you get health benfits. Not to mention people tend not to do it in excess maybe two or three blunts a day. ( those smoke it recreationally) Weed should be legal. It was hypocritical to make it illegal and we are keeping the hypocracy by not legalizing it.

If THC can help against Alzheimer, it should be researched, so that it's able to create drugs without these severe side effects.


For any medical affliction.

Cannabis should ABSOLUTELY be legal in the US. Especially when I'm smoking it.

Damn Straight

Using marijuana does indeed imapir one's judgement and short-term memory. However, these effects fade with the other effcts of the drug. And hey, alcohol is/can be much the same. Also, if one does not retain information at, say, one's workplace, one suddenly finds oneself unemployed. So, if you cannot control yourself, you lose out, same as any other drug. Also, I am not saying that there should be no penalties for a lack of judgement while under the influence of marijuana. DUIs and vehicular manslaughter due too marijuana, for example, should be as harshly penalised as they are if one is drunk, or whatever.

And the legalisation (and taxation) of marijuana really would help us out economically. Know about it.

lmao i know, but the moral value in that would be horrific. and yea it can be compared to alcohol, easily. and alcohol is even more dangerous, becuase it is addictive, and yea most people, when introduced with a drug with as much stigma as marijuana usually dont use it with respect to saftey. and yea after a while it would level out, but it'd be just another beer, another cigarrette. its on the same level, and i think all of them, if legalized, which isnt so horrific i guess, should be deeply regulated becuase i've been the victim of all of these first hand, and im not the only one. it isnt so great when your little brother is born with fetal alcohol spectrum disorder and is so disabled he's placed into a specialized group home, only to be a strain on the economy. along with all the paralyzed people from accidents, and all the health risks involved with any of these. it may sound strange, but it would bring in alot of money through taxes, but at the same time it would bring in an immense amount of legal backsuit, violent protests involving religious groups who beleived their constitution and conservative leader was meant for them, handicaps hindered economic blackholes because of their disabilities. it might help out a bit to have taxes, but it doesnt really help out in the long run. its far too near sighted to assume taxes would profit a nation at all.

The buzz/high you get from pot does not last as long alchol nor is it addictive. Now if your againest both and think they should both be illegal, then it has been proven it can stave off Alzhimers, help glacoma patients, cancer patients with pain, and also people who have AIDS. Now it is true you do get short-memory loss but that is while high. Just to mention a average persons high lasts a little longer then a half-hour and the buzz lasts to about 3.5 hours. Not as long alchol. Plus while your doing this you get health benfits. Not to mention people tend not to do it in excess maybe two or three blunts a day. ( those smoke it recreationally) Weed should be legal. It was hypocritical to make it illegal and we are keeping the hypocracy by not legalizing it.

actually thats a really good point. lol, i dont think it should be treated like beer and cigarrettes though. it should remain a medicinal thing, but behind very closed doors. just becuase the exposure could cause a widespread use. its alright for people likee these, but legalizing it simply just allows its distribution, and thats not as benificial. lithium has twice the effect as marijuana on some people, and can be used in conjunction, causing a high for at least a day, and this is done far less frequently. thats alright, but its probably better if litium wanst sold like candy to adults. regulation meaning restricted use, in the betterment of others is important. so yea thats alright.

Yes, it should be legalized.

Decreases short-term memory
Respiratory problems.

you would see just as many accidents and such related to the use of Ol' Mary Jane.


It should be my right to do to my body as I want, provided I am hurting no one else...:D

the memory loss if from lack of oxygen to the brain due to the resins building up on the lungs. that could be solved by eating it but it takes more so it would need to be legal so the price would go down.

Respiratory problems= i have to give you this one :D while it can be helpfull with asthma it can cause bronchitis

AS FOR THE DUI's the chp did a study i few years back with driving simulators on drunk drivers, sober drivers, and stoned drivers.
the stoned drivers did just as well as the sober drivers even better in some parts of the test.
i know when i play video games if i cant pass a level i will stop for a few seconds, smoke a joint start again and beat it like 3/4 of the time



I have been a user of drugs in my past and I have came to a conclusion that all drugs should be legalized in some ways. I have a Proposal written out on Recreational Drug Use but don't have any Endorsements. If I could get two of you to endorse me I promise that both Drug Promoters and those of you who believe it should be illegal because of the uneducated minds on properly legalizing the drug won't regret it once the proposal goes in front of the UN Delegates to vote on. Please band together with me on this and give me a change to better our nations on the legalization of drugs.

Thank You,
The United States of Flores Mafia


come join the green weed region even if for just a few days we will get you your endorsements ;)



I've been nearly killed by enough drunk drivers, and that mess is legal. Imagine what carnage will occur when everyone is stoned!

Keep it illegal. I think there's ample proof via DUI/DWI arrests and deaths via drunk driver that humans can't handle alcohol, much less harder stuff.

again do a google search on "CHP marijuana study" you should find lots of things going both ways
BUT YOU CANNOT CALL IF "ample proof"
well you can but you just make yourself look like an idiot :D



ANYONE ELSE ?

also i know of 3 nations who are drawing proposals and looking at the poll on this thread i think we have a good chance.


sweet... thats a releif

:D we have a pot club in my ton called sweet releif :D and yes i have my script



The logic behind this statement please?

simple he is a just another propaganda sponge

It should be legalized for recreational use. So the beneifts can be given to everyone that does use it. I forgot one of the other benefits is the high. It gives people that are busy just to relax and take it easy.

bump.

Anyone here about colorado and nevada?

I think it should be legalized because it is a drug that has proven benefits. It is one of the few legal/illegal drugs that do.

I know this has been done million and one times but I am seeing what people think on this forum. Just curiosity.


This one is real easy to sort. All the time we have any sort of drug that is legal then it is hypocrosy to make any other drug illeagal.

So either make booze and fags illieagal, or leaglise all drugs.

i like how scary you are. funny thing about anarchists, they want the freedoom to kill another person, but they always seem to want someone to protect them when that persons brother comes to get em'

even funnier, the only freedom that one is born with is at birth, you have the right to attempt to progress. the one thing that takes that freedom away, is anothers, its called a paradox, this is why you make friends, with friends you cna protect eachother, and still remain free. hence government, but how do you know your free? now comes democracy. anarchy is an ideal that needs to be counter argued in order to sustain a strong fight. i doubt anyone can do that effectively for either side of the argument. but all drugs being legal, even if you think it doesnt effect you, it will eventually and then you'd look back and regret your actions.
"they legalzed pot,
i smoked pot, said nothing to stop them,

they legalized crack,
i sold crack, i said nothing to stop them,

theyt legalized cocain,
i did cocain, i did nothing to stop them,

then they legalized meth,
and my neighbor came to my door, and nothing was to stop him."

Your the one that strikes me as scarey. Did you actually READ any of these posts or did you just decide to go on some strange illogical rant? You have rights being taken away and neighbors knocking on doors with meth? What are YOU smoking?

#1 If your born in the USA YES your born with an entire set of inalienable rights.
#2 You mentioned anarchy 2x. At no point anywhere in any other post has anarchy nor anything related to it been mentioned supported or argued for or against. Nor has anyone identified themselves as anarchists nor have i seen anyone promoting anarchy. So wtf are you talking about? Unless you are bizarrley equating legalization of pot with anarchy.

"even if you think it doesnt effect you, it will eventually and then you'd look back and regret your actions." Well im almost 40 years old now, im still waiting for when i will regret my actions. Could you give me a clue when this will happen please? Im patiently waiting. thanks.

lol

I think it should be legalized because prohibition is basically a way of shoveling money into the pockets of violent criminals. You'd think we'd have learned our lesson from the gangster era, but I guess some people are a bit slow on the uptake.

Cannabis needs to be regulated by the government.

sweet... thats a releif and a half. but that website does seem a bit sketchy. it doesnt really allow for a direct route to convict it as fact. so i cant really say i trsut it entirely, but it does releive alot of concerns i had. why is it though, that the majority of my closest friends who all smoke marijuana have extremely low iq's act very slowly constnatly, barely manage a job, and whose home lives suck primarily becuase of them? i cant beleive that marijuana does nothing to people, becuase i know and i've seen waht its done to great people. i live in two seperate social crowds and the other never smoked marijuana, and we all used to hang out as kids, so why is it that the one group is "normal" while me and my closest friends lack... inhibitions.

Why do many people think Stoners lack brains? I know that some do, but have you ever thought that maybe that was coincidence? I smoke pot...a lot and I'm fine. In fact I am one of the smartest three people in my school and I'm just a junior. Hell, I've showed up to physics completely baked before (And it wasn't skunk weed, This was chronic) when I had to take a test. If you had to guess what I got on that test, what would you say?

Well I got a perfect on it. Didn't miss one. I was the only actually. I don't think pot makes you have any personality characteristic, it's just used as an excuse when you're irresponsible. I know many more people like you described who don't toke than I do with the stoner crowd. If lifes are ruined by pot, it's only because it's illegal. If you get caught with any amount over a little, you're life will be shit.

The problem is that our job system is not made for any ex-criminals. I mean once you're caught for anything and you go to jail, your chances for a job plummet. Then bacause you can't find a job, what do you have to turn to? Yes, crime. Once you get that first offense, unless you get a lucky break which does happen a lot, you're life will spiral down. It's not pot's fault.

Cannabis is the main threat to a peaceful society. It causes hate and violence to spiral out of control. It makes people decide to do bad things.

It is evil and addictive, I refuse to accept it as anything other than one of the worst drugs around.

Ruffy, was that a joke? Yo're usually more reasonable than that....

Look, marijuana was legal along with cocaine. New York city's mayor even made a report on how marijuana is not addictive, yet he smoked a regular 15 grams a day. America has faced many difficulties during the legalizing of drugs. Unemployment was up, the economy was struggling, more crime. Even when marijauna was legal is still produced more crime. So don't act like it's all harmless pot and everything because it isn't. It brings you down to shit and makes you feel like gold.

So no, pot shouldn't and never will be legalized again.

Sorry, come again? That made no sense.

I'm against the legalization of mariuahna.

It can cause depressions, lethargie, and in some cases even shizophreny.

And I know something intressting from a former classmate who smokes mariuahana regulary. Once he smoked some with a few friends, and suddenly a girl get an epileptic seizure, I don't know if the girl was an epileptic before or not. If she was an epileptic before, perhaps she didn't recognize that she needed medication while she was stoned, or the mariuahna neutralized her medication. If not - then mariuahna is even more dangerous.

And if THC can help against Alzheimer, it should be researched, so that it's able to create drugs without these severe side effects.

We already have enough problems with lung cancer and alcoholics - we don't need more problems with mariuahna.
i like how scary you are. funny thing about anarchists, they want the freedoom to kill another person, but they always seem to want someone to protect them when that persons brother comes to get em'

even funnier, the only freedom that one is born with is at birth, you have the right to attempt to progress. the one thing that takes that freedom away, is anothers, its called a paradox, this is why you make friends, with friends you cna protect eachother, and still remain free. hence government, but how do you know your free? now comes democracy. anarchy is an ideal that needs to be counter argued in order to sustain a strong fight. i doubt anyone can do that effectively for either side of the argument. but all drugs being legal, even if you think it doesnt effect you, it will eventually and then you'd look back and regret your actions.
"they legalzed pot,
i smoked pot, said nothing to stop them,

they legalized crack,
i sold crack, i said nothing to stop them,

theyt legalized cocain,
i did cocain, i did nothing to stop them,

then they legalized meth,
and my neighbor came to my door, and nothing was to stop him."

Hmmm.... opposition to cannabis seems to have the effect of imparing logic and language skills.

I think it should be legalized because prohibition is basically a way of shoveling money into the pockets of violent criminals. You'd think we'd have learned our lesson from the gangster era, but I guess some people are a bit slow on the uptake.

At least alcohol wasn't prohibited on grotesque, scurrilously racist grounds. The temperance movement wasn't going around claiming that alcohol lead to white slavery of good moral white women by dirty Chinks, like the anti-opium folks. There weren't any newspaper editorials denouncing the evil the Negro alcohol fiends, like the ones about the Negro Coke Fiends. And nobdy tried to change the English terms for booze to Spanish in a smear campaign to associate it with dirty greasy spics, as was done with cannabis.

Legalize marijuana!



I'm divided on the issue. Caffeine is much more widespread and has far more addicts. But smoking cannabis does put smoke into your lungs, which increases risk of lung cancer and related. Yet on the other hand, caffeine, as a stimulant, is more or less like mini-cocaine. I haven't seen too many studies (there isn't, amazingly enough, an Anti-Caffeine lobby consisting of moralizing fundies, propaganda and tobacco corporations) on it, but I'd imagine that caffeine use increases risk of things like heart disease. I mean, it makes sense - anything that increases stress to the heart does that, and artificial stimulation every day certainly qualifies.

On one hand we have lung cancer, on the other, heart disease. The latter kills more people.

Actually, there have been a few scientific studies showing marijuana may help prevent lung cancer. Because of the anti-oxidants and other chemicals in the pot, It makes your lungs less susceptible to cancer. On the other hand, it does cause many respiratory problem number one being coughing and bronchitis. here's the link to one of the studies.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=0002491F-755F-1473-B55F83414B7F0000&ref=rss

If you smoke anything that will happen

C'mon. It's not any worse than tobbaco.

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I'd like to see pot legal. However, I have 2 concerns:

1. As has already been mentioned numerous times, the federal goverment, though it's really none of it's goddamned business, has been overstepping it's bounds for decades now and it has only become worse in recent years. Since they're obviously keen on controlling the population rather than serving it, the path to legalizaiton is almost certainly going to become violent at some point as the feds attempt to assert their right where they truly have none. The only mitigating factor to this is going to be...

2. The goddamned pirates running the corporations, and who also happen to own a large portion of the federal government, will most certainly push into existence legislation criminalizing the production of the plant outside of their own control. This will cause the natural, hollistic substance that many people now consume to become extremely scarce, and the legal alternative is going to be polluted with chemicals designed to force users to consume more and to be unable to stop consumption, just like what happened with tobacco.

I see no other alternatives to these scenarios, other than for pot to remain illegal on the books with local law enforcement generally looking the other way, as the situation MOSTLY is on the West coast of the United States. Some people get clipped for it, but those are usually the folks who are already doing something else wrong and just happen to have pot with them, so the cops add drug charges onto the stack because they can. I don't like this, either, but it seems like it might be better than the other scenarios.

I disagree with you because of the fact that if it became legal there wouldn't be a need for any additives in the herb because of the fact that people like the effect that they get off of it, which will cause continues use. As to the fact of the government just turning there back and only busting the people who were commiting a different crime, that is bullshit because if you are on the west coast you see the dea up in the mountains all the time looking for harvest of pot plants, the people who were growing that weren't doing anything that would be illegal if they legized the drug. There needs to be some laws on this drug so that it isn't overuse immorally but the drug needs to be able to be used without such criminal issues.

I am on the West coast, and I won't get into details about my experience with the generic drug subculture here. Suffice to say, there's been plenty of times I've seen a pound or more of pot ignored completely by law enforcement, and plenty of times someone was being a dick to the cops when they got pulled over for speeding and subsequently busted for a roach. The DEA et al looking for growers up in the mountains is mostly the result of high-level political struggles between very rich, powerful people who are not necessarily rich and powerful because of their drug operations. It is often simply an attack upon a person from that front for completely separate motives.

As far as "no need for additives," you again misunderstand the thinking and motivations of the rich and powerful. There's really no need for additives in tobacco, yet there they are. The companies don't care at all about what they're selling: they would sell dog shit if they thought there was some way they could dress it up so people would buy it. Their entire motivation is money. Money. Money. If a substance is already addictive, they need to make it MORE addictive to sell more of it and make more money. If there's some possibility that someone can control their consumption of something, the corporations need to remove that barrier so that person can consume as much as they are physically capable of consuming as fast as they possibly can and increase the company's stock price. If they die from the consumption of it then the company has done its job as long as they died after consuming at least enough of it to be profitable for the company.

No. Give me a break. People stand out in sleet with no coat on smoking a cigarette.
Imagine how much stupider they'd be on a joint break.

No. Give me a break. People stand out in sleet with no coat on smoking a cigarette.
Imagine how much stupider they'd be on a joint break.

Oh, well we can't have people not wearing coats in the rain. Thank goodness the world has a mother, and it's you.

I am a dedicated cigarette smoker, I also research every drug I use, and I just want to inform you that nicotine is added into cigarettes because it is proven to help provide energy while numbing the central nervous system. So that additive is to help the user, which yes it is addictive also. It’s like killing two birds with one stone. The physical and mental effect that you receive from marijuana is enough for the user to use excessive amounts to maintain the high.

Legalise Cannabis. Why? Because hemp paper is cheaper than wood paper, which is why it was outlawed in the first place. Hooray for the timber lobby.

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Benefits of cannabis: Good feelings, prevents quite a few diseases, most noticable alzheimers

Risks of cannabis: I guess if you use it while doing a risky activity it might cause bad things to happen, but still not as much as drinking alchohal would cause risk while doing a risky activity. There's no lung cancer risk, and no brain damage (Suprise suprise) risk either. Interesting.

Therefore: Cannabis are no more dangerous than alchohal, and potentionally less dangerous than tobacco. Therefore:

Legalize it, you dumbfucks.

No. Give me a break. People stand out in sleet with no coat on smoking a cigarette.
Imagine how much stupider they'd be on a joint break.

wow i wouldnt even think you would be smart enough to use a computer.

but here you are :D



you can take a soda or an energy drink to work for lunch but that dont mean we will start to see people all over drinking beer during their lunch break.


just a few rich ones who own their own company ;)

Risks of cannabis:...There's no lung cancer risk,

Do you have a source for that? I've heard the claim before, but never seen any substantiation and it doesn't really make sense to me that there would be any. If you have some more information on that I'd be interested in seeing it.

Therefore: Cannabis are no more dangerous than alchohal, and potentionally less dangerous than tobacco.

I completely agree with this.

Do you have a source for that? I've heard the claim before, but never seen any substantiation and it doesn't really make sense to me that there would be any. If you have some more information on that I'd be interested in seeing it.



I completely agree with this.

Article on UCLA study. (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_media7.shtml)

I really think that cannabis will be legal in atleast 25 percent of America in 10 years if not less time.

ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *breathes* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

What? Oh you're serious? I'm telling you there's not a fat chance in hog heaven. It should be legal, but it won't be.

Weed? LEGAL?! We have enough problems as it is! :p

Thats why we get rid of some we have.

I'd like to see pot legal. However, I have 2 concerns:


2. The goddamned pirates running the corporations, and who also happen to own a large portion of the federal government, will most certainly push into existence legislation criminalizing the production of the plant outside of their own control. This will cause the natural, hollistic substance that many people now consume to become extremely scarce, and the legal alternative is going to be polluted with chemicals designed to force users to consume more and to be unable to stop consumption, just like what happened with tobacco.

I.


your paranoid rantings serve only to prove anti drug legislators points.

please stop

Yes. Tax it like cigarettes and sell a pack of 20 joints for $10. Or something. I don't care really. It's just as easy to get as a pack of cigarettes anyway.

on a more serious note, since its good for old people it will soon be legal

lets face it. old people run this damn country

Article on UCLA study. (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_media7.shtml)

Thank you very much. I found what appears to be a source (http://www.thoracic.org/sections/publications/press-releases/conference/articles/study-finds-no-link-between-marijuana-use-and-lung-cancer.html) for your original link. It contains a bit more detail. This is certainly good news.

your paranoid rantings serve only to prove anti drug legislators points.

please stop

Let me guess: you must be a member of at least one board of directors.

Perhaps there is some paranoia, but I hardly think it's unjustified. It is a fact that tobacco companies process fresh, untainted tobacco and use about 600 additives to "enhance" the experience of smoking, i.e. make people more inclined to smoke and to smoke more when they do. The reason they wouldn't use additives to "enhance" the experience of smoking pot is...? Given the numerous lawsuits against not only tobacco companies but other industries like fast food accusing them of degrading the public health, while admittedly frivolous if one believes that people are able to make their own choices, yet do they illustrate a general desire on the part of industry to increase the health of the general populace or to push a product for the sake of increasing profits? Do environmental laws exist because companies care about dumping toxic shit into environments where people live or because we need to make it more expensive for them to dump the toxic shit rather than disposing of it properly? Can we really trust these companies to think about us and do things that are good for us or can we only trust them to think about themselves and how to increase their wealth, power and survivability?

Yes. Tax it like cigarettes and sell a pack of 20 joints for $10. Or something. I don't care really. It's just as easy to get as a pack of cigarettes anyway.

It's really hard to tax cause its a plant that can basically grow anywhere.

It's really hard to tax cause its a plant that can basically grow anywhere.

Heh heh what like tabacco?

pwn'd :)

It a personal choice - pepsi or coke, beer or spliff - hardly a proper subject for legislation.
It increases criminality - makes smokers petty criminals, provides huge incomes to organised criminals
It cripples law and order - high percentage of inmates are on drug related charges, police and court time wasted
*I could go on but I can't be arsed :)

vs

"drugs are bad mmmkay" unless we have a large industry already producing them in which case they are alright

Tobacco can only be grown in certain climates as for cannabis not so much. It can be grown anywhere and everywhere.

Take stem-cell research, it's one of those issues that is important on a federal level, so they take responcibility for dealing with the do's and don't factors.

Stem cell research raises ethical issues that the legalization of cannabis doesn't.

I'm worried about the people who control drug farming and distribution, and make many people across the world poor, but I guess legalizing it might make this less occurent, so yeah, maybe.

wow i wouldnt even think ....




You would have been better off stopping right there.

Still smoking, huh?

I'm worried about the people who control drug farming and distribution, and make many people across the world poor, but I guess legalizing it might make this less occurent, so yeah, maybe.

As opposed to the to the many people who oppose legalized coca, cannabis, and opiate products being sold at a fair market, as well as favoring exposing said farmers to toxic warfare?

bump

Cannabis has so many myths and outright lies regarding its use and danger that it is hard to know the truth.
Do you want to know the truth?

Go to Jack Herer's (http://www.jackherer.com/) website and you will learn
1) Why cannabis was made illegal (hint: It has nothing to do with getting high and everything to do with corporate profits)
2)The medical benefits of cannabis which have been known for thousands of years.
3) The industrial uses of cannabis (hemp).
The plant itself has thousands of uses, not just paper and rope.

Read his book The Emperor Wears No Clothes (http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html) for free online and you will learn all you need every know about cannabis and the reason why the government to this day uses lies and ignorance to keep this amazing plant illegal.

Cannabis is the main threat to a peaceful society. It causes hate and violence to spiral out of control. It makes people decide to do bad things.

It is evil and addictive, I refuse to accept it as anything other than one of the worst drugs around.

I would love to see some kind of proof to back up this statement.

Look, marijuana was legal along with cocaine. New York city's mayor even made a report on how marijuana is not addictive, yet he smoked a regular 15 grams a day. America has faced many difficulties during the legalizing of drugs. Unemployment was up, the economy was struggling, more crime. Even when marijauna was legal is still produced more crime. So don't act like it's all harmless pot and everything because it isn't. It brings you down to shit and makes you feel like gold.

So no, pot shouldn't and never will be legalized again.

Again where is the proof to back up your statements?
The LaGuardia report on "marijuana" found no harmful effects upon society due to the moderate use of cannabis.
I cannot find any report of Mayor LaGuardia using cannabis recreationally...sounds to me like someone trying to slander his good name because he published an honest report and not "reefer madness" propaganda.
Your statement "America has faced many difficulties during the legalizing of drugs" (beside the fact that you are mangling the English language) does not say at which point in America's history you are referring to since there were no drug laws on the books prior to 1911.
Coca, opium and cannabis were all completely legal for the first 150 years of this country's history and somehow we managed to survive.
Why do you think Coca-cola is named Coca-cola?

I'd like to see pot legal. However, I have 2 concerns:

1. As has already been mentioned numerous times, the federal government, though it's really none of it's goddamned business, has been overstepping it's bounds for decades now and it has only become worse in recent years. Since they're obviously keen on controlling the population rather than serving it, the path to legalizaiton is almost certainly going to become violent at some point as the feds attempt to assert their right where they truly have none. The only mitigating factor to this is going to be...

2. The goddamned pirates running the corporations, and who also happen to own a large portion of the federal government, will most certainly push into existence legislation criminalizing the production of the plant outside of their own control. This will cause the natural, hollistic substance that many people now consume to become extremely scarce, and the legal alternative is going to be polluted with chemicals designed to force users to consume more and to be unable to stop consumption, just like what happened with tobacco.

I see no other alternatives to these scenarios, other than for pot to remain illegal on the books with local law enforcement generally looking the other way, as the situation MOSTLY is on the West coast of the United States. Some people get clipped for it, but those are usually the folks who are already doing something else wrong and just happen to have pot with them, so the cops add drug charges onto the stack because they can. I don't like this, either, but it seems like it might be better than the other scenarios.

1) So because the Federal government has already overstepped its authority by enacting un-Constitutional drug laws you believe that the only way the American people can regain their rights is through violence?
I believe that as more studies show that cannabis is in fact far less harmful that tobacco and alcohol and as the "Baby Boom" generation that smoked cannabis in the 1960's grows older and the "reefer madness" generation dies off that cannabis will once again be legal in this country thru legislation.

2) Why would anyone buy adulterated cannabis when they could either grow their own or buy organically grown cannabis.
Surely you do realize that you can buy tobacco (http://www.naturalamericanspirit.com/) without any additives?
Will some companies try to sell adulterated cannabis that is addictive?
Sure they will.
But if we demand that cannabis be regulated in the same way tobacco and alcohol are then it will be our choice as consumers to decide if we want adulterated cannabis or the natural unblemished plant.

3) The only problem with "decriminalization" (which is basically what you are advocating) is that the market is still controlled by criminals (making the very word decriminalization one of the biggest oxymoron’s ever).
Criminals have no one regulating the sale of their wares.
Criminals will sell to anyone with the money to purchase what they are selling.
Criminals have a strong incentive to "up sell" their customers to more dangerous, truly addictive, substances.
Believe me I know what I am talking about having dealt with the drug sub-culture for many years.
Dealers will often give away free samples of such drugs as cocaine and heroin to get people hooked.
A drug addict is a very loyal customer.
Leaving cannabis sales in their hands is foolish at best.

Cannabis should be treated, in my opinion, just like wine.
Grown with love by connoisseurs who treat the plant and its consumers with respect.
Regulated by the government to keep it out of the hands of minors.
Now I do realize that large companies (most likely tobacco companies) would get involved and possibly add things to cannabis to "enhance" its effects.
But true connoisseurs could still open small shops and sell organically grown cannabis that has been grown by an expert with love and devotion.

I am a dedicated cigarette smoker, I also research every drug I use, and I just want to inform you that nicotine is added into cigarettes because it is proven to help provide energy while numbing the central nervous system. So that additive is to help the user, which yes it is addictive also. It’s like killing two birds with one stone. The physical and mental effect that you receive from marijuana is enough for the user to use excessive amounts to maintain the high.

You may want to go back and do that research again.
Nicotine is naturally found in tobacco.
Now cigarette companies do add many chemicals (http://www.naturalamericanspirit.com/Portals/5/pdfs/409additives.pdf) that cause nicotine’s effect on the body to be enhanced, in effect making it more addictive, but nicotine itself does not have to be added.

As for the negative effects of smoking cannabis these can be alleviated by using vaporization (http://www.canorml.org/healthfacts/vaporizers.html) or by concentrating the active ingredients in cannabis to create hashish or even purer forms of cannibanoids.

I think you can all guess how I voted.
One last thing.
I smoked cannabis moderately for nearly twenty years before giving it up a couple of years ago without any withdrawal at all.
It helped me with my depression ( I was on less meds then than now)
It helped me with my insomnia. (Again I have to take meds for this now and never had to before)
It helped me relax (which is hard for me due to anxiety)
I quit because of legal reasons and would most likely use cannabis to help me with my problems if it were made legal once again.
I assure you that I am an intelligent, productive member of society that has used, grown and shared this wonderful plant and my extensive knowledge regarding it with many friends.

My friend and I were talking about this today, and he said that the only reason its illegal is cuz the government can't regulate it, and therefore can't tax it.

1) So because the Federal government has already overstepped its authority by enacting un-Constitutional drug laws you believe that the only way the American people can regain their rights is through violence?

Not precisely. My concern is in the general reluctance of the federal government to alter it's position. Prohibition of alcohol ended peacefully enough, but the times were a bit different. The current adminstration has taken at least as many liberties with our liberties as the worst administration on record to date. It shows no sign of stopping. Unless there is some way for the politicians to make money through legalization, I don't believe the federal government is going to change it's position. Perhaps voting can still change things, but it seems to me that this could easily become the flashpoint for another war over states rights vs. federal authority.

I believe that as more studies show that cannabis is in fact far less harmful that tobacco and alcohol and as the "Baby Boom" generation that smoked cannabis in the 1960's grows older and the "reefer madness" generation dies off that cannabis will once again be legal in this country thru legislation.

I would like this to be true, except for #2...

2) Why would anyone buy adulterated cannabis when they could either grow their own or buy organically grown cannabis.

Because in the event cannabis becomes legal, laws regulating the production are almost a certainty. It is highly unlikely that "uncontrolled" production (e.g. growing it in your backyard) will be allowed and any unsanctioned production of the product will be vigorously discouraged by the corporations and law enforcement. The emergence of a niche company offering an "additive-free" product will be purposely slowed by regulation and beureaucracy designed to discourage entry into the market by those who are not already positioned to take advantage of the situation (i.e. multi-national conglomerates like Phillip-Morris). By the time such a product reaches the consumers, most will already be hooked (through brand loyalty, acclimatization to or dependance on the blend of additives, etc.) on the big name brands.

3) The only problem with "decriminalization"...is that the market is still controlled by criminals

Absolutely, but I see little difference in handing the operation over to companies, other than the potential for government regulated control, which is really going to boil down to laws being passed to prevent newcomers and "little guys" from entering the market and competing with the big companies who are buying the votes. It is also a fact now that many marijuana growers/dealers won't touch the harder drugs. Not because the penalties are any stiffer, simply out of a desire not to get involved in the bullshit that comes with dealing with people on those harder drugs. The "hey, you like that? Try this..." mentality happens mostly at the level of "street" dealers, whose mentality has a surprising amount in common with the mentality of corporate heads. And believe that if we legalized coke and heroin along with cannabis, the companies selling marijuana cigarettes would be stapling free samples on every single pack of joints. We wouldn't be getting rid of the criminals, just putting control of the industry into the hands of a different set.

Cannabis should be treated, in my opinion, just like wine.

That would be nice.

Grown with love by connoisseurs who treat the plant and its consumers with respect...But true connoisseurs could still open small shops and sell organically grown cannabis that has been grown by an expert with love and devotion.


I'm sorry, I just got an image of a little Asian guy with a long beard and a wooden ladle dipping clear, fresh water from some hidden mountain spring into little plastic bottles. The highest quality stuff is always going to be produced by those with a passion for the object, but those are the high-priced, small lot sort of things that aren't typically available to the average consumer. The unwashed masses must settle for the mechanically produced, emotionally void shadows of the more noble expressions of a product that are consequently cheaper and more widely available.

The net effect of turning the system down this road is that the good shit currently generally available to the average consumer will become far too pricey for most, and we'll be forced to settle for the cheap shit most of the time while only smoking the really good shit on special occasions. How often do you drink a $650 bottle of wine?

Regulated by the government to keep it out of the hands of minors.

'Cause they're doing SUCH a good job of that with tobacco and alcohol already, right? ;)

In the end, yes, I would like to see it legal, but I am very concerned that doing so will have an overall negative effect on the consumer.

Someone knows their stuff.

Because in the event cannabis becomes legal, laws regulating the production are almost a certainty. It is highly unlikely that "uncontrolled" production (e.g. growing it in your backyard) will be allowed and any unsanctioned production of the product will be vigorously discouraged by the corporations and law enforcement.

Controlled, yes, but not, I think completely restricted. People in the Netherlands, for example, are allowed to grow up to 5 cannabis plants legally, I believe.

I agree.

I don't smoke it, I wouldn't advocate smoking it, I would advise against smoking it, but I also find it absolutely ludicrous that it's illegal.
What he said.