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What is your favorite NYC (Manhattan) landmark?

Markreich
14-10-2006, 22:43
What's your favorite landmark in The City and why?

Remember, only 10 options.

EDIT: Consider Broadway part of Times Square.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
14-10-2006, 22:55
I've never been to New York :( - but I want to vote anyway. :p And based on what I've seen, I have to go with Central Park, especially those really big boulders. *nod*
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 22:56
I would have to say the Statue of Liberty. It's such a wonderful symbol. Hope, operatunity, and freedom. The symbol of the people. The symbol of America.



Can you think of any notion more beautiful than that of freedom?
Jello Biafra
14-10-2006, 22:57
I've never been to New York :( - but I want to vote anyway. :p Same here. I picked the Statue of Liberty. Anything but Times Square, anyway....ugly neon signs.
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 22:59
Same here. I picked the Statue of Liberty. Anything but Times Square, anyway....ugly neon signs.

Oh, you'd hate Vegas, then. :p
Philosopy
14-10-2006, 23:00
I clicked the wrong option. Not that it makes much difference - I've never been there anyway. :p
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 23:01
One thing I don't understand (and a lot of people do it, so would you please be so kind as to enlighten me why): Why put a closing time on a poll?
Jello Biafra
14-10-2006, 23:03
Oh, you'd hate Vegas, then. :pProbably, and the signs would only be one reason.
Lacadaemon
14-10-2006, 23:06
Yah.

MoMA and the Met are two completely different things. They are not even close to each other. And while it is true that MoMA just got a new builiding a few years ago, it's hardly a landmark. You couldn't even point it out on the skyline unless someone showed you.

Anyway, the best landmark is when you go up New Town Creek and see the FOVIKS which is the ruins of phelps-dodge.

The Hellgate Bridge is pretty damn awesome too.
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 23:06
Probably, and the signs would only be one reason.

Well, on the other hand, I suppose people gamble all over the world. -Every time you eat a McDonald's hamburger, for example.
Lacadaemon
14-10-2006, 23:10
ooo yah,

the intrepid's gone too.

carry on.
Jello Biafra
14-10-2006, 23:11
Well, on the other hand, I suppose people gamble all over the world. -Every time you eat a McDonald's hamburger, for example.Lol. That's true, but I was thinking more of the large concentrations of drunk people. <Shudder.>
Andaluciae
14-10-2006, 23:11
Same here. I picked the Statue of Liberty. Anything but Times Square, anyway....ugly neon signs.

Times Square at three in the morning was a very unique experience for me. I felt like it was daytime, because of all the light, but I decidedly knew that it was night.
Sarkhaan
14-10-2006, 23:12
I like the poem on the Statue of Liberty, but I really just love the Chrysler building.
Markreich
14-10-2006, 23:12
One thing I don't understand (and a lot of people do it, so would you please be so kind as to enlighten me why): Why put a closing time on a poll?

Because after awhile, the thread will end anyway. A closed poll keeps it from zombie-ing as much.
New Xero Seven
14-10-2006, 23:13
I just like New York, period. :D
IL Ruffino
14-10-2006, 23:13
I seriously forgot that I've even been to NYC..

Only went to the Radio City Music Hall, though.

That was cool.

I picked Rockefeller Center just because..
Markreich
14-10-2006, 23:17
ooo yah,

the intrepid's gone too.

carry on.

It doesn't sail until 6 November, and will reopen in autumn 2008.
http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/pages/presscenter
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 23:17
Because after awhile, the thread will end anyway. A closed poll keeps it from zombie-ing as much.

Zombie-ing?
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 23:20
Lol. That's true, but I was thinking more of the large concentrations of drunk people. <Shudder.>

Then you'd hate Congress. :cool:
Markreich
14-10-2006, 23:20
Zombie-ing?

When a thread goes X pages, goes quiet for a week or two, then gets dug up by someone looking for something to talk about -- who usually doesn't read the previous X pages. ;)
Jello Biafra
14-10-2006, 23:23
Then you'd hate Congress. :cool:Nah, I enjoy getting sexually explicit e-mails. :)
Lacadaemon
14-10-2006, 23:24
It doesn't sail until 6 November, and will reopen in autumn 2008.
http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/pages/presscenter

I stand corrected. Almost gone.
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 23:30
When a thread goes X pages, goes quiet for a week or two, then gets dug up by someone looking for something to talk about -- who usually doesn't read the previous X pages. ;)

Ah... When I started a thread, I was just so desperate for people to talk about it and debate the issue that I really didn't care whether or not they'd read the previous discussions. The only problem was that those who hadn't read the debates didn't understand what I meant in the issue. ("Should freedom be limited by morals of is freedom a moral?")
Congressional Dimwits
14-10-2006, 23:41
Nah, I enjoy getting sexually explicit e-mails. :)

Ironically, I was just about to add a segment for my little online satirical column involving a sex scandal with "Senator Albert Folly" and also a segement on the combination of the State Committe and a counterpart leading to the creation of the Church and State Committee, which will be run mostly by the hard-core highly religious, the Association of Zealous Agnostics and the Society of G-d--Fearing Atheists.
Kiryu-shi
15-10-2006, 04:54
The most fun I've ever had at any of said locations is playing street football in Time Square during rush hour, so I out of those choices, Time Square. Central Park is also nice, but as a rule, I tend to not get caught being at the same place as tourists, so I don't go to landmarks/touristy places often.
My official choice is my school, which is sorta a historic landmark.
RockTheCasbah
15-10-2006, 04:56
The World Trade Center.

Oh, wait, oops...
Kiryu-shi
15-10-2006, 05:01
What is your favorite NYC (Manhattan) landmark?
.

Yah.

MoMA and the Met are two completely different things. They are not even close to each other. And while it is true that MoMA just got a new builiding a few years ago, it's hardly a landmark. You couldn't even point it out on the skyline unless someone showed you.

Anyway, the best landmark is when you go up New Town Creek and see the FOVIKS which is the ruins of phelps-dodge.

The Hellgate Bridge is pretty damn awesome too.

New Town Creek is in Queens, although it is pretty cool up there.
And about Moma and the Met, I think the OP wanted an art museum option, and listed two of the most famous ones. Moma's cooler than the the Met though, by far. Of course the coolest museum, not that I've been there yet, is the Museum of Sex, somewhere downtown, I think.
Vetalia
15-10-2006, 05:03
Either the NYSE or the Nasdaq MarketSite...both look awesome, especially the Nasdaq.
Markreich
15-10-2006, 05:03
The World Trade Center.

Oh, wait, oops...

Congrats for being yourself, Richard. :rolleyes:
Arrkendommer
15-10-2006, 05:05
What's your favorite landmark in The City and why?

Remember, only 10 options.

EDIT: Consider Broadway part of Times Square.

New York is an alien/government conspiracy.
Kiryu-shi
15-10-2006, 05:06
The World Trade Center.

Oh, wait, oops...

It's actually one of the most popular tourist actractions, as sick as that may be.
Potarius
15-10-2006, 05:08
I've never been to New York, but as odd as it may seem, I think I'd like Central Park the most.

It's the mass of people more than anything, really. Well, the mass of people with the backdrop of Manhattan. :p
Vetalia
15-10-2006, 05:10
It's actually one of the most popular tourist actractions, as sick as that may be.

I don't really see it as sick...it's not really different than seeing any historical landmark, especially one with the importance of 9/11.

Plus, with all the construction going on now it'll be pretty damn cool to see the new structure rise from the ruins...I'd take a trip there next time I get the chance. They're already clearing out the basement and driving rebars in to the ground, and the actual basement steel is being processed in Virginia and other parts of the US right now.

No structural steel above ground until 2008, but there will be the basement level steelwork going on by the start of next year.
Daemonocracy
15-10-2006, 05:13
i'd say either the Empire State Building or a pub with a 50 cent drafts special.
Keruvalia
15-10-2006, 05:16
I like the dead burnt bodies of the 9/11 victims. I'd snort them like cocaine if I could.
Kiryu-shi
15-10-2006, 05:17
I don't really see it as sick...it's not really different than seeing any historical landmark, especially one with the importance of 9/11.

Plus, with all the construction going on now it'll be pretty damn cool to see the new structure rise from the ruins...I'd take a trip there next time I get the chance. They're already clearing out the basement and driving rebars in to the ground, and the actual basement steel is being processed in Virginia and other parts of the US right now.

No structural steel above ground until 2008, but there will be the basement level steelwork going on by the start of next year.

I guess I'm just not interested, at all. I have to say, having a "Freedom Tower" is one of the reasons I want to move away from NYC as soon as possible.

i'd say either the Empire State Building or a pub with a 50 cent drafts special.

Buying anything for 50 cents in Manhattan? HAHAHA!!!:p
Vetalia
15-10-2006, 05:19
I guess I'm just not interested, at all. I have to say, having a "Freedom Tower" is one of the reasons I want to move away from NYC as soon as possible.

Construction of skyscrapers is just something I'm interested in...it could be called the "Hitler Tower" for all I care, because if it's a major engineering project, I'm interested in it. Plus, that hole is pretty ugly; I think a new building has a lot more symbolism attached to it than a hole in the ground.

Sadly, I can't find a good webcam of the Burj Dubai anywhere...you think they'd have one given that it's the biggest skyscraper in the world.
Potarius
15-10-2006, 05:21
I guess I'm just not interested, at all. I have to say, having a "Freedom Tower" is one of the reasons I want to move away from NYC as soon as possible.

Isn't that just the most disgusting name ever? I mean, if it really was about freedom, then it'd be fine...

...But the fact that it has even remotely anything to do with Bush and his cronies just kills it. "Liberty Center" would've been a much better name in my opinion.
Potarius
15-10-2006, 05:22
Construction of skyscrapers is just something I'm interested in...it could be called the "Hitler Tower" for all I care, because if it's a major engineering project, I'm interested in it. Plus, that hole is pretty ugly; I think a new building has a lot more symbolism attached to it than a hole in the ground.

Sadly, I can't find a good webcam of the Burj Dubai anywhere...you think they'd have one given that it's the biggest skyscraper in the world.

Burj al-Arab? It's certainly one of the biggest, but it's not the tallest, if that's what you mean.
Markreich
15-10-2006, 05:22
I like the dead burnt bodies of the 9/11 victims. I'd snort them like cocaine if I could.

On behalf of two guys from my company and 3000 other people: fuck you, asshole.
Vetalia
15-10-2006, 05:25
Burj al-Arab? It's certainly one of the biggest, but it's not the tallest, if that's what you mean.

I mean biggest, mainly because that poses a lot more engineering challenges and is more interesting than just a tall building.
Daemonocracy
15-10-2006, 05:25
Buying anything for 50 cents in Manhattan? HAHAHA!!!:p

I saw it once! I did! some Irish Pub somewhere had 50 cent drafts from like 7-8 pm on a wednesday i believe. I almost fell out of my cab. The previous night i had spent almost 30 bucks...on 3 drinks! gah!
Kiryu-shi
15-10-2006, 05:30
Construction of skyscrapers is just something I'm interested in...it could be called the "Hitler Tower" for all I care, because if it's a major engineering project, I'm interested in it. Plus, that hole is pretty ugly; I think a new building has a lot more symbolism attached to it than a hole in the ground.

I would much rather have just the park and the reflection things. Downtown could use a little tranquility. The design of the tower is not bad, I guess, but I just would rather have something less obstrusive as a memorial. Of course, there are many big reasons why I'm not making the decisions...
Markreich
15-10-2006, 05:31
I saw it once! I did! some Irish Pub somewhere had 50 cent drafts from like 7-8 pm on a wednesday i believe. I almost fell out of my cab. The previous night i had spent almost 30 bucks...on 3 drinks! gah!

Maybe a Blarney Stone?

$10/each average if you're in midtown.
Katganistan
15-10-2006, 05:34
Just so you know, the USS Intrepid Sea Air and Space Museum will be closed for the next two years...

You missed my absolute favorite: the American Museum of Natural History/Rose Space Center.
Vetalia
15-10-2006, 05:36
I would much rather have just the park and the reflection things. Downtown could use a little tranquility. The design of the tower is not bad, I guess, but I just would rather have something less obstrusive as a memorial. Of course, there are many big reasons why I'm not making the decisions...

In my opinion, the tower is an aesthetic necessity; a tall building like the FT would create a focal point in the skyline and provide a lot of additional office space for the hot market in that part of town (ironically, the economy of lower Manhattan is stronger now than it was before 9/11 and a lot of office space is occupied). The only challenge will be getting tenants to move in, but I think sentiment is going to be different in 2010 than it is now.

Even so, a park and memorial are desperately needed; I think the complex will fit together gracefully, but who can tell until it's completed?
Katganistan
15-10-2006, 05:39
It's actually one of the most popular tourist actractions, as sick as that may be.

I've lived here my whole life. Been to WTC twice while it existed.
Never felt the need to go see the hole.
Katganistan
15-10-2006, 05:41
I like the dead burnt bodies of the 9/11 victims. I'd snort them like cocaine if I could.

That's so utterly crass I can't believe it came from you.
It's also way, WAY over the top.

Take a weeklong vacation.
Katganistan
15-10-2006, 05:46
Burj al-Arab? It's certainly one of the biggest, but it's not the tallest, if that's what you mean.

I thought those two connected towers in Malaysia was the tallest....

I was wrong... Canadian National Tower is the tallest TOWER in the world, and Taipei 101 is the tallest BUILDING in the world currently.

The Freedom Tower will be between the two in height.
Kiryu-shi
15-10-2006, 05:50
In my opinion, the tower is an aesthetic necessity; a tall building like the FT would create a focal point in the skyline and provide a lot of additional office space for the hot market in that part of town (ironically, the economy of lower Manhattan is stronger now than it was before 9/11 and a lot of office space is occupied). The only challenge will be getting tenants to move in, but I think sentiment is going to be different in 2010 than it is now.

Even so, a park and memorial are desperately needed; I think the complex will fit together gracefully, but who can tell until it's completed?

I won't be here by the time everything is finished, I hope, so it really isn't my problem, but, I think that it throws of the whole skyline because of how tall it is compared to the other skyscrapers. It makes the rest of the buildings seem slightly insignificant, but again, I'm no architecture or building expert.

That being said, the coolest new building coming to New York City in the next few years: *weeps with visual orgasm* (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nym/ballpark/newpark_overview.jsp) For those who do not recognize true perfection in building form, your probably not a deranged Mets fan.
Katganistan
15-10-2006, 05:55
I won't be here by the time everything is finished, I hope, so it really isn't my problem, but, I think that it throws of the whole skyline because of how tall it is compared to the other skyscrapers. It makes the rest of the buildings seem slightly insignificant, but again, I'm no architecture or building expert.

That being said, the coolest new building coming to New York City in the next few years: *weeps with visual orgasm* (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nym/ballpark/newpark_overview.jsp) For those who do not recognize true perfection in building form, your probably not a deranged Mets fan.

YAY FOR THE NEW STADIUM!
Kiryu-shi
15-10-2006, 06:09
YAY FOR THE NEW STADIUM!

The video of the stadium is very, very cool. I think they should team up with Metlife, and call the stadium something like Metlife Park; get a sponsorship but also have a relevant name. And giant pictures of Snoopy in a Mets Uniform.
JiangGuo
15-10-2006, 06:57
I'm surprised Ground Zero is not on the list.
GreaterPacificNations
15-10-2006, 07:00
I thought those two connected towers in Malaysia was the tallest....

I was wrong... Canadian National Tower is the tallest TOWER in the world, and Taipei 101 is the tallest BUILDING in the world currently.

The Freedom Tower will be between the two in height.
Yeah, the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur became the worlds tallest twin towers on 11/09/01.
Katganistan
15-10-2006, 07:36
Yeah, the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur became the worlds tallest twin towers on 11/09/01.

I can't decide whether you're simply ignorant or obnoxious, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: they were built taller than the World Trade Center to begin with, 27 years after the WTC was completed.
Potarius
15-10-2006, 08:54
I thought those two connected towers in Malaysia was the tallest....

I was wrong... Canadian National Tower is the tallest TOWER in the world, and Taipei 101 is the tallest BUILDING in the world currently.

The Freedom Tower will be between the two in height.

Actually, there's a funny thing about the Petronas Towers that seems to totally fly past everyone.

The buildings, as a whole, are still shorter than the Sears Tower, at just 1,481 feet (counting the spire). Without the spire, the tallest one is just 1,243 feet, which is shorter than both WTC One and the Sears Tower.

Note that the Sears Tower is 1,451 feet to the roof, and close to 1,800 feet when you count the antenna. WTC One was 1,351 feet to the roof, and 1,753 feet counting the antenna.

So, in short, both the Sears Tower and WTC One were taller than Petronas One. But, since the spire is apparently counted as a part of the structure (and an antenna isn't, even though it's integral to the building? hah...), Petronas One was awarded the title of "World's Tallest".

Screwy, isn't it?
Markreich
15-10-2006, 13:43
I'm surprised Ground Zero is not on the list.

Ground Zero isn't a landmark per se, it's the after effect of a landmark. And (hopefully) they will start building the new complex soon, afterwhich Ground Zero will become its own park/memorial.

I doubt few people would choose it as their favorite landmark, any more than someone would say that their favorite place in Hawaii is Pearl Harbor. It's a place to go, an impressive one, but is usually not something one can look at and say "wow, that's cool/I like that". Few people go to cemetaries to appreciate the aesthetics of headstones.

I saw it one perfect spring day when I just didn't feel like riding on the subway and walked from Grand Central to down to Wall Street. It's a big, big hole at this point. Gave me a similar feeling I had when I saw Aushwitz in 1994: this is a place where something very, very bad happened and that the spirits/vibe/whatever/presence of the place is/are not still.
Layarteb
21-11-2006, 03:34
Well I've always held the Statue of Liberty as the beacon of freedom and the ESB and Brooklyn Bridge to be engineering marvels that I honored and respected greatly. Tough to choose so I went with the Statue & Ellis (my ancestors came through there). I really did have a hankering for the WTC too but some assholes decided that they needed to be rebuilt so I can't choose them anymore :(.
Neo Undelia
21-11-2006, 03:45
To me, The Empire State Building is one of the greatest symbols of human achievement, so that one.
Rhaomi
21-11-2006, 03:47
Well I've always held the Statue of Liberty as the beacon of freedom and the ESB and Brooklyn Bridge to be engineering marvels that I honored and respected greatly. Tough to choose so I went with the Statue & Ellis (my ancestors came through there). I really did have a hankering for the WTC too but some assholes decided that they needed to be rebuilt so I can't choose them anymore :(.
You do realize that you just resurrected a more than month-old thread, right? :confused:
Layarteb
21-11-2006, 03:57
Wow no I didn't even realize that. Is that a bad thing? I mean it's about NYC and NYC is uber so :). Sorry.
Kiryu-shi
21-11-2006, 03:58
Wow no I didn't even realize that. Is that a bad thing? I mean it's about NYC and NYC is uber so :). Sorry.

:D
New Xero Seven
21-11-2006, 04:07
The Statue of Liberty for its symbolism.
Time Square for the krazy lights, sounds, and images.
N Y C
21-11-2006, 04:16
Impossible to choose for me. The Chrysler building is probably my favorite skyscraper. The Queensboro Bridge is special to me, baause I've always had a view of it. There's an amazing slide in Central Park, rediculously long and carved out of stone. All those cool haunts evey neighborhood has: restaurants, shops etc. My favorite museum would have to be the Met...especially the Asian wing, it's very soothing to walk around in. Time Square is neat, but the real "town square" of Manhattan is probably Union Square.
Markreich
22-11-2006, 02:14
Wow no I didn't even realize that. Is that a bad thing? I mean it's about NYC and NYC is uber so :). Sorry.

As it's my thread... I'm not unpleased. ;)
Infinite Revolution
22-11-2006, 02:17
i always liked the flatiron building.
Layarteb
22-11-2006, 05:51
As it's my thread... I'm not unpleased. ;)

Hooah!
Mirkana
22-11-2006, 06:26
American Museum of Natural History.
Layarteb
22-11-2006, 06:38
American Museum of Natural History.

Man I haven't been there since forever. I really want to go back actually and when the Intrepid reopens I'm going.
Callisdrun
22-11-2006, 07:08
Empire State Building. The WTC might have been taller, but they didn't have the good old Empire State Building's style.
MrMopar
22-11-2006, 07:09
Chysler Building, hands down. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool car guy.
Hiemria
23-11-2006, 03:09
The Statue of Liberty is technically in New Jersey.
Layarteb
23-11-2006, 03:28
The Statue of Liberty is technically in New Jersey.

You're thinking Ellis Island. They stole that from us in 1998 but Liberty Island is still NY territory.