NationStates Jolt Archive

Don't bother talking shit about the source of this article (http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/10/12/14357/845), all it says is that GOoPer seats are in even more serious danger than we first thought. And, it sites two reputable polls in the process. Good (and by that I mean bad) luck in November repos.

great, then theyll win in 08. then they will have an unopposed majority. then everything will suck all over again just differantly. and all you people will be in hog heaven till you realize that neither party should ever come to complete power. and then its too late.

Woo-hoo! Let's put this country right back on the right path! Next stop, the White House! :D

Shut up! You'll jinx us, you bastard. *throws salt over shoulder; tries to think of other superstitious things to do*

Jefferson Davisonia: great, then theyll win in 08. then they will have an unopposed majority. then everything will suck all over again just differantly. and all you people will be in hog heaven till you realize that neither party should ever come to complete power. and then its too late.

... and that actually is unavoidable with the current US election system. Seriously, two-party just sucks. Someone getting 30% of the vote should get approx. 30% of the power and responsibility, not the current system where the one who gets most gets it all.

But to change it would need both parties agreeing on it, and since it would royally fuck them both it will never happen.

great, then theyll win in 08. then they will have an unopposed majority. then everything will suck all over again just differantly. and all you people will be in hog heaven till you realize that neither party should ever come to complete power. and then its too late.

I'm not the type of guy to promote a one party state, even if the one party is the better of them all. But, in this particular case at this particular time there is a good deal of damage to reverse, and the dems are going to need their time in power to put the balance back to the way it should be IMO.

the fact of the matter is, they wont reverse it. they will simply push through their own agenda, blind and uncaring, stumbling about destroying everything left intact after bush in their zeal

Don't bother talking shit about the source of this article (http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/10/12/14357/845), all it says is that GOoPer seats are in even more serious danger than we first thought. And, it sites two reputable polls in the process. Good (and by that I mean bad) luck in November repos.

I am really going to enjoy saying "Nyah nyah nyah!" when you and your fellow Republican-haters find yourselves on the outside looking in once again. Richard Nixon will rise from the dead and be elected President a third time before the Donkocrats seize control of the legislative branch. San Fran Nan Pelosi will run out of face to keep lifting before she becomes Speaker :p

Donkocrats, put the crack pipe down and get re-acquainted with reality. :D

I am really going to enjoy saying "Nyah nyah nyah!" when you and your fellow Republican-haters find yourselves on the outside looking in once again. Richard Nixon will rise from the dead and be elected President a third time before the Donkocrats seize control of the legislative branch. San Fran Nan Pelosi will run out of face to keep lifting before she becomes Speaker :p

Donkocrats, put the crack pipe down and get re-acquainted with reality. :D

You're almost good at satire to make some appearances on comedy central... almost. Your boys may have been able to get a couple over on us, but get ready for the sea change. Try not to get caught in the undertoe...

Republican party has been dead for years, about time people realized that.
Get rid of them.

Not only that, but it appears that several gubernatorial positions will be picked up by Democrats as well. Not that any of this really matters.

Pack your bags repos. Cya!

Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss

EEkkkhkhhhhhhuuuuuugggrrrulllllllaaammmmmnnnkjjjiagokakaiiiiiieeerrrrkkhhhnn,....meeheemana!.

K I'm done.

Dem '08 (unless its Hilary then I dont think so)

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Elephants chasing donkeys on a nascar speedway in Mozambiqu durring a hurricane!!!!



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Wow...aren't yall celebrating alittle too early? I mean polls were saying both Gore and Kerry would win their elections....

great, then theyll win in 08. then they will have an unopposed majority. then everything will suck all over again just differantly. and all you people will be in hog heaven till you realize that neither party should ever come to complete power. and then its too late.

Agreed.

EEkkkhkhhhhhhuuuuuugggrrrulllllllaaammmmmnnnkjjjiagokakaiiiiiieeerrrrkkhhhnn,....meeheemana!.

K I'm done.

Dem '08 (unless its Hilary then I dont think so)

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Elephants chasing donkeys on a nascar speedway in Mozambiqu durring a hurricane!!!!tries to imagine Elephants and donkeys in stock cars...



==It is past 2:30 am. For your own sanity ignore this post.==:eek: oops... too late...

Shut up! You'll jinx us, you bastard. *throws salt over shoulder; tries to think of other superstitious things to do*
Yup.

Can't le anyone get complacent here.

The Dems should never be underestimated for their ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

MAKE SURE YOU GET OUT AND VOTE.

MAKE SURE YOU GET OUT AND VOTE.
Unless you're a republican.
In which case, have a good lie-in. Don't leave the house, just potter about, watch a couple of dvds, catch up on your reading, bake some cookies. Enjoy a nice relaxing stay-at-home Saturday. You deserve it!

Yes! *shakes fist in the air* One step closer to the wet dream of all leftists: an omni-present one-party state!

Oh...and if the GOP does win in the elections... what do you Democrats plan on doing? Scream "election theft"....again?

// is not a Republican //
// greatly rejects the notion that he is //
// what's a Damocrat? //
// likes slashies //

Oh...and if the GOP does win in the elections... what do you Democrats plan on doing? Scream "election theft"....again?

// is not a Republican //
// greatly rejects the notion that he is //
// likes slashies //

You need your party to have the majority on the supreme court to cheat on an election. Ask Dubya.

Fried Tuna]... and that actually is unavoidable with the current US election system. Seriously, two-party just sucks. Someone getting 30% of the vote should get approx. 30% of the power and responsibility, not the current system where the one who gets most gets it all.

But to change it would need both parties agreeing on it, and since it would royally fuck them both it will never happen.

Quoted for truth.

You need your party to have the majority on the supreme court to cheat on an election. Ask Dubya.

Yes. When defeated, shriek "theft!" at the top of your lungs until you either recruit all that you can to your side or bore people with your tired, poor sportsmanship. The Democrats should manage pro sports teams.

But thats all water under the bridge. If you are republican and want to support you candidates then you can do so after the elections by super-sizing your combo meal! :p

... and that actually is unavoidable with the current US election system. Seriously, two-party just sucks. Someone getting 30% of the vote should get approx. 30% of the power and responsibility, not the current system where the one who gets most gets it all.

But to change it would need both parties agreeing on it, and since it would royally fuck them both it will never happen.
Maybe...maybe not.
Other countries changed their voting system from first-past-the-post to something more representative.
To do so, there needed to be a majority consensus and vote by the two parties that invariably alternated govt. Fortunately for those countries, said two parties were good enough to consider the wishes of the People over their own needs.

I wouldn't say it necessarily screw the Dems and Gop. Usually what happens when a country goes to proportionate representation is that for the first couple of elections there's a slew of minor parties gaining seats, but as time goes on, their base dwindles and thus their numbers in parliament.
You end up with the two big parties holding large number of seats - not usually a majority mind, and one of them needing to form a coalition with a minor party in order to rule. This is usually along the lines of the big party agreeing to push through a couple of the minor party's policy and in return the minor party agreeing to vote for confidence issues.
So not much change in the end really.

But thats all water under the bridge. If you are republican and want to support you candidates then you can do so after the elections by super-sizing your combo meal! :p

Funny.

I'm not a Republican, though I will find it absolutely hilarious if the Democrats don't win this election.

Funny.

I'm not a Republican, though I will find it absolutely hilarious if the Democrats don't win this election.

Then maybe you should concider renting a season of Aqua Teens on election day if you want to laugh.

Then maybe you should concider renting a season of Aqua Teens on election day if you want to laugh.

Don't care for Aqua Teen. Robot Chicken, on the other hand...

// so convinced, you are //
// arrogant, you have become
// speak like Yoda, I do //

Maybe...maybe not.
Other countries changed their voting system from first-past-the-post to something more representative.
To do so, there needed to be a majority consensus and vote by the two parties that invariably alternated govt. Fortunately for those countries, said two parties were good enough to consider the wishes of the People over their own needs.

I wouldn't say it necessarily screw the Dems and Gop. Usually what happens when a country goes to proportionate representation is that for the first couple of elections there's a slew of minor parties gaining seats, but as time goes on, their base dwindles and thus their numbers in parliament.
You end up with the two big parties holding large number of seats - not usually a majority mind, and one of them needing to form a coalition with a minor party in order to rule. This is usually along the lines of the big party agreeing to push through a couple of the minor party's policy and in return the minor party agreeing to vote for confidence issues.
So not much change in the end really.

Essentially it's about what sized parties the system favors. In the current US system if you split a party in two it essentially loses all it's power. The biggest problem in this is that it forces everyone to vote for a "complete package", for example if you're libertarian there's just no way to vote without either just wasting your vote or voting also for issues you detest.

I've been toying with the idea of completely doing away with districts, all congressmen would be voted from the same "pool", and instead of having one person/one vote in congress give them one vote per one person who voted for them, with cut-off at a set number, say the 500 first with most votes get in. Anyone who didn't make it gets to transfer his/her votes to a candidate that did make it. That would make every vote equal in the most effective way possible, I think. Any glaring flaws?

:( I've always been very suspicious of the American system. A two party state is only one step away from a one party state.

Personally, I think it is too late. Seeing no difference between the Republicans and Democrats, we already have a one party state.

Wow...aren't yall celebrating alittle too early? I mean polls were saying both Gore and Kerry would win their elections....

Gore did win his election.

Yes! *shakes fist in the air* One step closer to the wet dream of all leftists: an omni-present one-party state!

What are you talking about? That's damn near what we have now, and the leftists are none too pleased about it.

Gore did win his election.

He won the popular vote. He just didn't win the one that actually matters. The Electoral College vote.

He won the popular vote. He just didn't win the one that actually matters. The Supreme Court vote.

Fixed. ;)

The Republicans will not lose the majority in either chamber.

I will find it absolutely hilarious if the Democrats don't win this election.

yeah, nothing gives me the giggles quite like the torture and dictatorship party retaining power

The Republicans will not lose the majority in either chamber.

You might be right--a month is a long time and the republicans have a history of pulling out races in the end. But for now, the numbers are against you, especially in the House. Right now the Dems are leading enough races outside the margin of error to take 218 seats, a majority. That's not even including TX-22, which isn't being polled because it's a Dem versus a write in candidate in Tom DeLay's old seat.

I can't believe that this thread has made it to so many posts without anyone asking what a 'damocrat' is.

I can't believe that this thread has made it to so many posts without anyone asking what a 'damocrat' is.
Damn democrat?

Damn democrat?

I was thinking more of a Lady Democrat.

great, then theyll win in 08. then they will have an unopposed majority. then everything will suck all over again just differantly. and all you people will be in hog heaven till you realize that neither party should ever come to complete power. and then its too late.

It's what allergists call a counter irritant. Something that is unpleasant in the opposite way of what ever you've already got works out to feeling pretty close to normal.

With any luck dems will sweep in 06, gain sway in 08, and then reach equilibrium in '12.

However, to claim that the Dems will be just as bad as the Repubs is disingenuous. The repubs have created the worst, more partisan Congress in living memory, and this president is arguably the worst ever. Worst likely scenario is that Dems in complete control will be kinda bad, but way better than the Repubs were, so people will be inclined to give them a pass. But I wouldn't worry about that, because the media will be sure to pounce on every little thing to make it sound like the Dems have gone uber corrupt right out of the gate, so before you know it FOX will be calling for special elections over Congressional Franking (their free postage perk).

The Republicans will not lose the majority in either chamber.

Oh well, that sorts that out. Thanks for stopping by and settling the issue for us. BTW, when are you putting out the next issue of Wishful Thinking Weekly?

Woo-hoo! Let's put this country right back on the right path! Next stop, the White House! :D

Don't you mean a path that is slightly less bad than the path we were on before? Nothing will really change, of that I'm certain.

Wow...aren't yall celebrating alittle too early? I mean polls were saying both Gore and Kerry would win their elections....

Wilgrove is absolutely correct!
We still have the Diebold (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091906P.shtml) "voting" (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Voring_machine_grup_identifies_new_flaws_0731.html) machines (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-26-e-voting_x.htm) to get past in November.

The last two elections were stolen.
Do not be surprised if the next one is also.

Don't bother talking shit about the source of this article (http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/10/12/14357/845), all it says is that GOoPer seats are in even more serious danger than we first thought. And, it sites two reputable polls in the process. Good (and by that I mean bad) luck in November repos.

God help us all!:D

What are you talking about? That's damn near what we have now, and the leftists are none too pleased about it.

The ultimate goal of leftism is total government invasion of its citizens. That is the end game of the leftist political idealogy. The further left you go, the more you seek government intervention (control over) private citizens. The political spectrum needs to stop being measured as liberal vs conservative and start being measured as tyranny vs freedom (note their positions; leftism ends in tyranny).

What am I talking about, you ask? I'm talking about the fact that you're all in a frenzy, praying for a complete Democratic take over of the Congress. Hence, the one-party state.

Destroy the DNC and the RNC. Then America can move to establish real freedom.

The ultimate goal of leftism is total government invasion of its citizens. That is the end game of the leftist political idealogy. The further left you go, the more you seek government intervention (control over) private citizens. The political spectrum needs to stop being measured as liberal vs conservative and start being measured as tyranny vs freedom (note their positions; leftism ends in tyranny).

What am I talking about, you ask? I'm talking about the fact that you're all in a frenzy, praying for a complete Democratic take over of the Congress. Hence, the one-party state.

Destroy the DNC and the RNC. Then America can move to establish real freedom.
Okay, for starters, Democratic control of the Senate would move us away from the current status we have as a one party state, and away from evangelical control of the levers of power, and if ever there were a group that wanted to control what you do in your everyday life, it's the evangelicals.

Secondly, if it's organized control of anything you're afraid of, then you have no reason whatsoever to fear the Democrats. We're the least organized party in the history of political parties. So said no less than Will Rogers. ;)

The further left you go, the more you seek government intervention (control over) private citizens.

anarchism

you lose

Don't bother talking shit about the source of this article (http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/10/12/14357/845),

Heaven forbid that we examine the quality of a source placed before us.

Heaven forbid that we examine the quality of a source placed before us.

I think the OP was worried--and rightly so--that a report from a blog would be automatically discounted, no matter what the underlying evidence was, and so was trying to head that off.

Okay, for starters, Democratic control of the Senate would move us away from the current status we have as a one party state, and away from evangelical control of the levers of power, and if ever there were a group that wanted to control what you do in your everyday life, it's the evangelicals.

Secondly, if it's organized control of anything you're afraid of, then you have no reason whatsoever to fear the Democrats. We're the least organized party in the history of political parties. So said no less than Will Rogers. ;)

:D ew too bad people have forgotten him.

To quote:

"I am not a member of any organized party — I am a Democrat."

Okay, for starters, Democratic control of the Senate would move us away from the current status we have as a one party state, and away from evangelical control of the levers of power, and if ever there were a group that wanted to control what you do in your everyday life, it's the evangelicals.

Secondly, if it's organized control of anything you're afraid of, then you have no reason whatsoever to fear the Democrats. We're the least organized party in the history of political parties. So said no less than Will Rogers. ;)

In most cases where private individual matters are concerned, that's true, but don't forget that it's the left that wants to regulate what you say(speech codes, anyone?, political campaign regulation?), and in my personal experience, leftists are more evangelical about their cause than Billy Graham on crack.

I can't believe that this thread has made it to so many posts without anyone asking what a 'damocrat' is.

what ever it is, I hope they realize their landslide is on the "hozrizon"



egads... I've been infected with Spelling Nazititis ... I need to get some bed rest... Night all...

In most cases where private individual matters are concerned, that's true, but don't forget that it's the left that wants to regulate what you say(speech codes, anyone?, political campaign regulation?), and in my personal experience, leftists are more evangelical about their cause than Billy Graham on crack.

Oh and the right are defenders of free speech?

Flag burning amendment.
Free speech zones.

Wilgrove is absolutely correct!
We still have the Diebold (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091906P.shtml) "voting" (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Voring_machine_grup_identifies_new_flaws_0731.html) machines (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-26-e-voting_x.htm) to get past in November.

The last two elections were stolen.
Do not be surprised if the next one is also.

Ok, the first two I disregard because they're not nationally regonized reliable source. I did read the USA Today article though, and it seems like the machines are vurnable to security threats (all computers and programs are, if you think otherwise you're fooling yourself.) it still doesn't say that the Republican have, or will steal the election. While we're on this topic, who's to say that the Democrats haven't tampred with the machines either? A very popular mayor in Chicago uses dead people to vote. So comon.

The ultimate goal of leftism is total government invasion of its citizens. That is the end game of the leftist political idealogy. The further left you go, the more you seek government intervention (control over) private citizens. The political spectrum needs to stop being measured as liberal vs conservative and start being measured as tyranny vs freedom (note their positions; leftism ends in tyranny).

*giggles* How droll.

PATRIOT Act.
Flag-burning Bill.
Anti-Gay Marriage Ammendment.
Torture Bill.
Warrantless Wiretapping.

To name a few. Any bells being rung, here? I don't recall any Leftists pushing these piles of garbage.

*giggles* How droll.

PATRIOT Act.
Flag-burning Bill.
Anti-Gay Marriage Ammendment.
Torture Bill.
Warrantless Wiretapping.

To name a few. Any bells being rung, here? I don't recall any Leftists pushing these piles of garbage.

She/He does have a point.

She/He does have a point.
Damn it, Wilgrove! Will you stop being a moderate sensible republican I can have some respect for!

Damn it, Wilgrove! Will you stop being a moderate sensible republican I can have some respect for!

LOL! Actually I am not a Republican, I distest the party, I distest the Democrats too. I am a Libertarian. I believe in small government, low taxes, and maximum social freedom.

Ok, the first two I disregard because they're not nationally regonized reliable source. I did read the USA Today article though, and it seems like the machines are vurnable to security threats (all computers and programs are, if you think otherwise you're fooling yourself.) it still doesn't say that the Republican have, or will steal the election. While we're on this topic, who's to say that the Democrats haven't tampred with the machines either? A very popular mayor in Chicago uses dead people to vote. So comon.

Didn't ya know? Dead people are the Democrats main voter turn-out. I mean, if JFK has taught us anything...

Republicans tamper with the votes, Dems get dead people to vote for them. They both have their winning strategy, it's just who executes it better.

The Republicans will not lose the majority in either chamber.
How do you know this? You Karl Rove or the ceo of Diebold?

Didn't ya know? Dead people are the Democrats main voter turn-out. I mean, if JFK has taught us anything...

Republicans tamper with the votes, Dems get dead people to vote for them. They both have their winning strategy, it's just who executes it better.
Have the Dems had a major case of resurrecting the dead since Chicago in the 60s? I wouldn't doubt it, but I certainly haven't heard of it.

I find it funny, however, how whenever this sort of conversation takes place, someone always mentions Chicago in the 60s. Not in the 90's or the 2000's--always in the '60's and always related to Kennedy. It's kind of like how whenever there's a Congressional scandal, Chappaquiddick comes into the conversation, as though it's the biggest recent Democratic party scandal. I mean, there's got to have been something since then, right?

Have the Dems had a major case of resurrecting the dead since Chicago in the 60s? I wouldn't doubt it, but I certainly haven't heard of it.

I find it funny, however, how whenever this sort of conversation takes place, someone always mentions Chicago in the 60s. Not in the 90's or the 2000's--always in the '60's and always related to Kennedy. It's kind of like how whenever there's a Congressional scandal, Chappaquiddick comes into the conversation, as though it's the biggest recent Democratic party scandal. I mean, there's got to have been something since then, right?

Well there was the whole Clinton scandal, not that he got a BJ from Monica, but the whole prejury and obstruction of justice kinda thing.

BTW: What sane woman would not wash a dress if there was spooge on it?

Im fairly certain dems will take congress. And cock-block all of the Administrations new bills, for sure.

Well there was the whole Clinton scandal, not that he got a BJ from Monica, but the whole prejury and obstruction of justice kinda thing.

BTW: What sane woman would not wash a dress if there was spooge on it?

It's presidential spooge. That makes the dress a collector's item.

Im fairly certain dems will take congress. And cock-block all of the Administrations new bills, for sure.

We can only hope. I, for one, am tired of my country being fucked by Bush and Dick.

Have the Dems had a major case of resurrecting the dead since Chicago in the 60s? I wouldn't doubt it, but I certainly haven't heard of it.

I find it funny, however, how whenever this sort of conversation takes place, someone always mentions Chicago in the 60s. Not in the 90's or the 2000's--always in the '60's and always related to Kennedy. It's kind of like how whenever there's a Congressional scandal, Chappaquiddick comes into the conversation, as though it's the biggest recent Democratic party scandal. I mean, there's got to have been something since then, right?
actually, it has happened to a friend of mine, he recieved his grandmother's registration card for the Democratic party... years after she died!

it was reported in, but the only mention of it in our local news was "Voter records finally updated."

then they recieved her Democrat Voter Registration card for the next election...

It's presidential spooge. That makes the dress a collector's item.

The only people that'll collect that are perverts who masterbates to weird and strange stuff.

How do you know this? You Karl Rove or the ceo of Diebold?

Im smart

Well there was the whole Clinton scandal, not that he got a BJ from Monica, but the whole prejury and obstruction of justice kinda thing.

BTW: What sane woman would not wash a dress if there was spooge on it?

But that didn't have to do with dead people voting, which was the original context of the discussion. And frankly, that was a reach of a scandal at best, and the US electorate knew it. That's why Clinton's job approval was in the 60s when impeachment hearings started.

actually, it has happened to a friend of mine, he recieved his grandmother's registration card for the Democratic party... years after she died!

it was reported in, but the only mention of it in our local news was "Voter records finally updated."

then they recieved her Democrat Voter Registration card for the next election...

Yeah, but did she vote? Check her voting records to see. There's a difference between still being registered and actually voting.

The only people that'll collect that are perverts who masterbates to weird and strange stuff.

I'm sure there are plenty of Bill Clinton fans who would frame it and proudly hang them on the dining room wall.

The only people that'll collect that are perverts who masterbates to weird and strange stuff.

Congressman Foley?

:D

Yeah, but did she vote? Check her voting records to see. There's a difference between still being registered and actually voting.

considering one Registers to vote in the Year the election is held?

that means someone else registered her name. TWICE!

I believe he did inquire to see if she did vote, but I don't think he recieved a reply.

considering one Registers to vote in the Year the election is held?

that means someone else registered her name. TWICE!

I believe he did inquire to see if she did vote, but I don't think he recieved a reply.

They don't roll over from year to year? They do here. Part of the problem with the state by state rules for elections in my view.

They don't roll over from year to year? They do here. Part of the problem with the state by state rules for elections in my view.

nope, they don't, not in Hawaii anyway. they may mail a form for the Voter TO register.

nope, they don't, not in Hawaii anyway. they may mail a form for the Voter TO register.

Huh. That seems quite problematic to me.

I would like to quote Larry Sabato and David Wasserman if I may in their "Crystal Ball" article from September 29, 2006:

The point is this: elections are a one-day clearance sale. You either sell on that one day or you don't. Your opponent can be leading 364 days of the year, but as long as you are ahead on one day, November 7th, by one vote, you win.
The article does not mention the Mark Foley scandal, because it was not yet made public by the time this article was printed. But the message doesn't change: if Osama bin Laden is captured November 5th, who do you think is going to stay in power?

Huh. That seems quite problematic to me.It can be a hassle at times, but it does... or supposed to... keep the regestry of voters current. when I go to vote, besides an ID, the confirmation card is needed.

I would like to quote Larry Sabato and David Wasserman if I may in their "Crystal Ball" article from September 29, 2006:

The article does not mention the Mark Foley scandal, because it was not yet made public by the time this article was printed. But the message doesn't change: if Osama bin Laden is captured November 5th, who do you think is going to stay in power?IF Bin Laden is captured before the elections... It won't matter, because Congress and the Senete wouldn't have anything to say or do with his capture, it could possibly, be seen as a + for President Bush... but that's it.

Didn't ya know? Dead people are the Democrats main voter turn-out. I mean, if JFK has taught us anything...

Republicans tamper with the votes, Dems get dead people to vote for them. They both have their winning strategy, it's just who executes it better.

Yeah. Half a century ago there was some Democratic voter fraud. A hundred and fifty years ago there was a Republican who fought for the right of black people to be free. I guess that means that Democrats are the corrupt party of office thieves and Republicans are the African Americans' best friend? I bet it's a shame all those N!@@#&$ are so ungrateful right?

IF Bin Laden is captured before the elections... It won't matter, because Congress and the Senete wouldn't have anything to say or do with his capture, it could possibly, be seen as a + for President Bush... but that's it.That's the reason it's called an October surprise instead of a November surprise. Got to give the voters time to react to it. ;)

How do you know this? You Karl Rove or the ceo of Diebold?

It's quite obivious that Soviestan is one of the insiders.

If he was a little eviler I would consider him Cheney even.

[Paranioa Mode]Of if you use electronic voter machines.
Be sure to look around for a person with a cellphone out just standing around and looking at it, or any other sort of electronic device. [/End Parnoia]

That's the reason it's called an October surprise instead of a November surprise. Got to give the voters time to react to it. ;)
Still wouldn't matter. because it's got nothing to do with the Senetors and Congressmen. the only news that would save their asses is if Iraq does a full 108 degree spin and they actually get some real law and order and the troops start coming home.

Remember, this isn't a Presidential Election.