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...and no, I'm not being a pompous ass. Just see what I've seen, and you too can fathom the depths of the universe.

Clicky (http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php).

Watch the above flash animation, and, in just under twelve minutes, you'll be able to fathom the entire nature of reality and existence in all possible universes, timelines, and conditions as contained in a single tenth-dimensional point.

Point, line, split, fold, point, line, split fold...

You'll get it when you watch the video. :)

It's been posted here before, but I applaud it nonetheless.

Seems a rather simplistic take on the subject. Didn't even bother to demonstrate a 4D object as it appears in a 3D world. It could've at least shown an unfolded hypercube.

Seems a rather simplistic take on the subject. Didn't even bother to demonstrate a 4D object as it appears in a 3D world. It could've at least shown an unfolded hypercube.

Well, the intent of this animation was to inform on a subject to those who may not understand it. I assume it was designed to be simplistic, just to provide a simple understand to those who know nothing about it. Such as me. I actually somewhat understand what the dimensions(Beyond the third, of course) are and mean, in the basics.

Now, had they gone and done a complete and total explanation, with all of the complexities, I doubt it would make any sense at all.

Well, the intent of this animation was to inform on a subject to those who may not understand it. I assume it was designed to be simplistic, just to provide a simple understand to those who know nothing about it. Such as me. I actually somewhat understand what the dimensions(Beyond the third, of course) are and mean, in the basics.

Which is why it should have included an unfolded hypercube, because the illustrations provided aren't going to help people without any knowledge of the subject understand it.

so if I was a flat Lander I could see through peoples clothes?

so if I was a flat Lander I could see through peoples clothes?

Damned if I know. The animation explained nothing, and I have no idea where my copy of Flatland is.

so if I was a flat Lander I could see through peoples clothes?

Through would be a tough word to describe it. It would be something akin to seeing an image on a PET scan, an infinitely thin slice of the inside of the persons body. Sure, you could see through the clothes, but the bits through first, would be gone nearly instantaneously before you could really pick anything up.

Which is why it should have included an unfolded hypercube, because the illustrations provided aren't going to help people without any knowledge of the subject understand it.

How does an unfolded hypercube apply to this? I have an idea, but don't really think it pertinent to understand the very(bare bones) basics of string theory.

so if I was a flat Lander I could see through peoples clothes?

I would imagine no, since there is no depth to a flatlander, I'm not sure you would be able to see much at all(Unless you are flatlander in the 3D world, but meh, this is just conjecture with my limited understanding of the issue). Of course, I'm not terribly sure

How does an unfolded hypercube apply to this? I have an idea, but don't really think it pertinent to understand the very(bare bones) basics of string theory.

It's one of the simplest ways to comprehend the fourth dimension.

You humans I in fact live in the 283nd dimension.

I understand the 5th Dimension. Especially that whole thing about their beautiful, their beautiful ballooooon.

Which is why it should have included an unfolded hypercube, because the illustrations provided aren't going to help people without any knowledge of the subject understand it.

Actually, it is quite easy to understand if you have no prior knowledge of the subject. I, for example, had no clue what the 5th through the 10th dimensions were before watching this. However, I now understand the basics outlined in that animation.

What are the negative number dimensions like?

*head explodes*

It's one of the simplest ways to comprehend the fourth dimension.

Care to explain? Not trying to be a jackass or anything, but I'm not terrible sure.

I don't think I want to click on that link at this time of the day (02:45 at night) for my brain will surely melt if I did...

*bookmarks*

Head: *boom*

Care to explain? Not trying to be a jackass or anything, but I'm not terrible sure.

Unfolded Cube - http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6066/cubeunfoldeduo8.gif
Unfolded Hypercube - http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2691/unfoldedhcubezf2.gif

Well, the intent of this animation was to inform on a subject to those who may not understand it. I assume it was designed to be simplistic, just to provide a simple understand to those who know nothing about it. Such as me. I actually somewhat understand what the dimensions(Beyond the third, of course) are and mean, in the basics.

Now, had they gone and done a complete and total explanation, with all of the complexities, I doubt it would make any sense at all.

To be fair, it doesn't matter how you explain it, String Theory is the wackiest thing since sliced bread. How many versions are we up to? 8?

Cube stuff

That doesn't really explain anything, it just makes it more confusing, so what would a hypercube look like???

That doesn't really explain anything, it just makes it more confusing, so what would a hypercube look like???

The human brain is physically incapable of imagining a hypercube. The closest that can be managed is unfolding it into the 3rd Dimension or taking a cross-slice of it. The unfolding part is easier to comprehend. The cross slice screws with your mind.

The human brain is physically incapable of imagining a hypercube. The closest that can be managed is unfolding it into the 3rd Dimension or taking a cross-slice of it. The unfolding part is easier to comprehend. The cross slice screws with your mind.

Well, I know what an unfolded hypercube is, however my question is how an unfolded hypercube is the simplest way to understand the fourth dimension. I don't want to know what one is, just how, specifically, it pertains to the subject at hand.

Where's the mystery? Just follow Buckaroo Banzai to the eighth dimension (http://www.figmentfly.com/bb/q47.html), and keep going for two more. Simple.

Well, I know what an unfolded hypercube is, however my question is how an unfolded hypercube is the simplest way to understand the fourth dimension. I don't want to know what one is, just how, specifically, it pertains to the subject at hand.

An unfolded hypercube is the simplest way to understand a hypercube. A hypercube is the simplest representation of the 4th Dimension, just as a cube is the simplest representation of the 3rd dimension, a plane the second, a line the first, and a point the zeroth.

The human brain is physically incapable of imagining a hypercube. The closest that can be managed is unfolding it into the 3rd Dimension or taking a cross-slice of it. The unfolding part is easier to comprehend. The cross slice screws with your mind.

Well, that just explains everything dunnit'?

Damn You MindFuck Physics!!!!:mad:

An unfolded hypercube is the simplest way to understand a hypercube. A hypercube is the simplest representation of the 4th Dimension, just as a cube is the simplest representation of the 3rd dimension, a plane the second, a line the first, and a point the zeroth.

I feel this is going in circles...

Okay, why is a hypercube the simplest representation of the 4th? I need more than just saying that it is, I want to know what makes it the simplest representation.

Okay, why is a hypercube the simplest representation of the 4th? I need more than just saying that it is, I want to know what makes it the simplest representation.

For starters, it's really the only representation of the 4th dimension that exists.

For starters, it's really the only representation of the 4th dimension that exists.

Okay... why? How does it represent it? And, more importantly, how would you be able to simplify it so that the layman(such as I) could understand what you are talking about. Not everyon has an intimate knowledge of quantum physics.

Lines are not the only way to represent dimensions. There are easier ways than lines, using symbols like colours. So a one dimensional line with two colours, now has two dimensions: length, and colour gradient. likewise, a hypercube in one way can be imagined as a cube that has a colour gradient. If you take the colour gradient as representative of time, you have a sortof hypercube. Sortof.

Lines are not the only way to represent dimensions. There are easier ways than lines, using symbols like colours. So a one dimensional line with two colours, now has two dimensions: length, and colour gradient. likewise, a hypercube in one way can be imagined as a cube that has a colour gradient. If you take the colour gradient as representative of time, you have a sortof hypercube. Sortof.

Ah. That kinda makes sense. However, it would have difficult to represent this, at all, in a five minute, bare-bones, explanation, I would think.

How does it represent it?
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Because it's a four dimensional object...

Anyone else content with being a flatlander?

*Raises hand.*

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Because it's a four dimensional object...

I was looking for a definition along the lines that Katurk said, not "It is because it is". Oh well, my question was answered.