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Virginia Democratic Governor Mark Warner announced today that he will not be running for President in 2008 as many expected, and hoped, he would. He is a moderate to conservative Democrat, has a good record as Governor and could have been a real threat to any Republican nominee in the general election.

I personally feel this is a big blow to the Democrats because even as a running mate he could have been quite a force. He also seemed like a decent person. With him out, the Democrats look weak in '08. Bill Richardson would have real shot, but he too does not seem to be interested but no announcements have been made.

On the bright side, the Republicans seem to be warming up to John McCain, finally, and Rudy Giuliani, though still evasive when asked, looks like he is considering a run as well. Both good candidates.

Your thoughts on the Democrats' chances in '08? Kerry, Gore and Clinton aren't exactly the most attractive prospects.

It's too early to tell who's really going to run. I'm hoping Howard Dean tries again. Dr. Dean seems like he would make a great president.

It's too early to tell who's really going to run. I'm hoping Howard Dean tries again. Dr. Dean seems like he would make a great president.


what about Dr. Deans Mr Hyde?

It's too early to tell who's really going to run. I'm hoping Howard Dean tries again. Dr. Dean seems like he would make a great president.

I don't agree with Dean on a lot of issues, but he strikes me as a very intelligent man. The opposite of Bush.

I heard many great things about Warner. It saddens me he wont be running because I may very well have voted for the man. So far the only other democrat I'd even consider voting for is Clark, or maybe just some leftist independent. I might possibly vote a republican, but they would have to be an outright amazing person. I prefer to vote candidate over party.

bill richardson will run if he can get enough money to do so.

we sure could use him today.

what about Dr. Deans Mr Hyde?

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OH FOR THE LOVE OF...

Can't a man get excited for once without him being some kind of Hyde?

DAMN!! I liked that guy.

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OH FOR THE LOVE OF...

Can't a man get excited for once without him being some kind of Hyde?

no, you are either a boring old stiff, sluggishly saying "family values" and "national security" in every other sentence or a raving loon. This is a black and white world dont you know?

<sigh>

Foiled once again.

Warner is a smart and honest guy. A genuinely good good choice for EITHER party as a moderate. But once again, the really good choice bows out early and I will have to decide between two schlubs again.

Not holding my breath for a great candidate to emerge from either party this time out.

I want Barack Obama to run.

I want Barack Obama to run.

So do I.

OBAMA 'O8!

(partially because I like the guy, and partially because I wanna see the GOP smear ads that slowly change the "B" in his last name to "S") :rolleyes:

Pity. The dems really need a strong and inspiring candidate. If Obama had four more years under his belt, I'd be pushing him to run.

If Feingold can get the name recognition he needs, he would be a good choice.

I want Barack Obama to run.

Still too young in my opinion. Besides, a failed run this early in his career could be the very death of him. I dont want him snuffed before he actually has a chance to win. To tell the truth, Im not even sure why he's that impressive. The way the Democrats latched onto him after his speech, worked in the same way they latched onto Kerry, which was an embarrasingly forced bandwagon movement.

The Dems would be fools to push Barak Obama onto the national stage so early. They would destroy their prodigy. He is not ready for primetime, not yet. He would be better for 2012, but I hear the Dems are getting desperate and may try to run him early.

I personally do not care for Obama. He seems like a man who talks like a moderate but is actually a far left liberal. He would get torn apart by the Republicans.

Now Harold Norton, I believe that is his name, is a true moderate and another black Democratic candidate who would have a real shot at the presidency if he wins the Senate race in Tennessee. Norton is the guy the dems should be grooming. Again though, not until 2012.

Bill Richardson is their best hope for 2008.

And Howard Dean is a raving loon. he's not just excited, he is nuts. Unless you agree with his far left politics, you're not gonna trust this guy with the red button. It would be as if the Republicans nominated Gary Bauer to be their guy.

Damnit. Do I have to explain why calling any member of the Democratic party "far-left" is completely and utterly stupid again?

Damnit. Do I have to explain why calling any member of the Democratic party "far-left" is completely and utterly stupid again?

why is it utterly stupid? because they all are members of the far left?

Edit> and when i say far left, i mean by American standards. not Canadian, European or other parts of the world.

why is it utterly stupid? because they all are members of the far left?

Far-left refers to communism and anarchocommunism. The Democrats are capitalists. Capitalism is not communism or anarchocommunism. It isn't even close. Ergo, saying that the Democrats is far left is the equivalent of saying that the Earth is flat.

Edit: And far-left by American standards still is communism and anarchocommunism.

Far-left refers to communism and anarchocommunism. The Democrats are capitalists. Capitalism is not communism or anarchocommunism. It isn't even close. Ergo, saying that the Democrats is far left is the equivalent of saying that the Earth is flat.

Edit: And far-left by American standards still is communism and anarchocommunism.

i don't agree. far left has its own meaning in america while communism is communism. if i believed someone to be a communist, i would come out and say communist.

what is your opinion on far right then? Authoritarianism?

I want Barack Obama to run.

So do I, but I think it is to early for him. Let him get one more president under his belt. Run him in '12 if a Republican wins in '08, and in '16 if a democrat does.

That being said, I am not affiliated with either party, and from what I have seen of him thus far, would very likely vote for Obama in '08 if given the chance.

i don't agree. far left has its own meaning in america while communism is communism. if i believed someone to be a communist, i would come out and say communist.

what is your opinion on far right then? Authoritarianism?

Far right is laissez-faire capitalism and anarchocapitalism. The left-right axis refers solely to the stance on economic issues.

Warner probably had a great chance, but ah well.

I want Kerry to make a similar announcement also.

Pity. The dems really need a strong and inspiring candidate. If Obama had four more years under his belt, I'd be pushing him to run.

If Feingold can get the name recognition he needs, he would be a good choice.

I want Obama to have at least two full Senate terms under his belt before running for President. That means 2016 at the earliest.

Feingold might run, but he can't win...

1. He's twice divorced...which already puts him on the defensive on "family values"
2. He's Jewish, which sadly means that many people will not vote for him based on that fact alone.

I want Obama to have at least two full Senate terms under his belt before running for President. That means 2016 at the earliest.

Feingold might run, but he can't win...

1. He's twice divorced...which already puts him on the defensive on "family values"
2. He's Jewish, which sadly means that many people will not vote for him based on that fact alone.

If wants to help his cause he needs to get out of the senate after this time and run for Governor of Illinois. Governors always have a better shot at becoming President because they are seen as having experience at actual "governing" and don't have to worry about all the votes on all the different bills and their earmarks they made during their time as a Senator being taken out of context and turned against them.

why do so many fear a young canidate like Obama and cite his lack of experience as a reason?...how old was Kennedy, 43?...how old is GWB and how badly he has F****d things up, GWB should be a prime example of how age is meaningless, if a canidate is good what does it matter if he 40, 50 or 60?