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I've read a little bit on FGM, but some of the descriptions here make my skin crawl.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/2313097.html

It'd be nice if some of these governments would outlaw the practice. Screw tradition.
Comments?

More and more countries are outlawing the practice. Unfortunately, the laws banning FGM are rarely enforced. :(

the problem isn't with the laws, but with the enforcement.
mostly it happened in small villages where the goverments aren't effective (if they care enough to do something).

I'm all for establishing and enforcing laws banning that horrible practice.

I know Egypt and Somalia don't have laws banning the practice. I thought Egypt was semi-civilized, but I guess not.

I know Egypt and Somalia don't have laws banning the practice. I thought Egypt was semi-civilized, but I guess not.

Somalia pretty much has no laws, period. ;)

it surely is disgusting, but outlawing it probably won't help since it mostly happens in rural parts where the government has close to no influence. if you really want to change it i think your best bet is on education.

FGM isn't the only problem many women in Africa face. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6040180.stm) :(

Why would anyone want to have sex with a woman who doesn't f*ck you back? :confused:

Its absolutely savage and barbaric.

Part of culture? Fuck that-time to change.

Its ritual torture and deprivation. I dont even want to know how many suffer infection and die as a result.

Why would anyone want to have sex with a woman who doesn't f*ck you back? :confused:

They can f*ck you back, although it's extremely uncomfortable, to say the least.

I dont even want to know how many suffer infection and die as a result.

Many.

FGM isn't the only problem many women in Africa face. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6040180.stm) :(Extremely patriachal societies. If the men don't think there is anything wrong with it , then it'll never stop. Educating the women might help some, but they're not the ones with the power.

They can f*ck you back, although it's extremely uncomfortable, to say the least.
I don't know any guys who want to have sex with someone incapable of enjoying it.

Many.

Not to mention the pleasure of being held down while some ignorant savage carves up the last place you'd want a blade.

This is the most extreme type. I'd just as soon have my throat cut.

The form of female circumcision regarded as the most severe is Type III, which is also referred to as infibulation or pharaonic circumcision. This is often carried out by a "gedda," or matron of the village, without anaesthetic, on girls between the ages of two and six.

Infibulation replaces the vulva with a wall of flesh from the pubis to the anus, except for a pencil-size opening at the inferior portion of the vulva to allow urine and menstrual blood to pass through. A reverse infibulation is where the opening is left in the anterior part of the vulva in front of the urethra. After excision, the labia are sewn together, and since the skin is abraded and raw after being cut, the two surfaces will join via the natural healing and scar-formation process to form a smooth surface. The girl's legs are tied together for around two weeks to prevent her from moving the wound. [14]

The sewn-together labia majora are slightly opened before sexual intercourse by the girl's husband — girls will often be married at 12–16 years old — or by his female relatives, whose responsibility it is to inspect the wound every few weeks and open it some more if necessary.

During childbirth, the enlargement is too small to allow vaginal delivery, and so the infibulation must be opened completely and restored after delivery. Once again, the legs are tied together to allow the wound to heal, and the procedure is repeated for each subsequent act of intercourse or childbirth. When childbirth takes place in a hospital, the surgeons may preserve the infibulation by enlarging the vagina with deep episiotomies. Afterwards, the patient may insist that her vagina be closed again so that her husband does not reject her.[14]

This practice is reported to cause the disappearance of sexual pleasure for the women affected, as well as major medical complications, although advocates of the practice deny this, and continue to carry it out.

I don't know any guys who want to have sex with someone incapable of enjoying it.

I don't think most of them have sex for the enjoyment.

This is the most extreme type. I'd just as soon have my throat cut.

The form of female circumcision regarded as the most severe is Type III, which is also referred to as infibulation or pharaonic circumcision. This is often carried out by a "gedda," or matron of the village, without anaesthetic, on girls between the ages of two and six.

Infibulation replaces the vulva with a wall of flesh from the pubis to the anus, except for a pencil-size opening at the inferior portion of the vulva to allow urine and menstrual blood to pass through. A reverse infibulation is where the opening is left in the anterior part of the vulva in front of the urethra. After excision, the labia are sewn together, and since the skin is abraded and raw after being cut, the two surfaces will join via the natural healing and scar-formation process to form a smooth surface. The girl's legs are tied together for around two weeks to prevent her from moving the wound. [14]

The sewn-together labia majora are slightly opened before sexual intercourse by the girl's husband — girls will often be married at 12–16 years old — or by his female relatives, whose responsibility it is to inspect the wound every few weeks and open it some more if necessary.

During childbirth, the enlargement is too small to allow vaginal delivery, and so the infibulation must be opened completely and restored after delivery. Once again, the legs are tied together to allow the wound to heal, and the procedure is repeated for each subsequent act of intercourse or childbirth. When childbirth takes place in a hospital, the surgeons may preserve the infibulation by enlarging the vagina with deep episiotomies. Afterwards, the patient may insist that her vagina be closed again so that her husband does not reject her.[14]

This practice is reported to cause the disappearance of sexual pleasure for the women affected, as well as major medical complications, although advocates of the practice deny this, and continue to carry it out.

This kind is really only prevalent in the Sudan and Somalia. In fact, most FGMs in those countries are of this type, if I recall.